Maggie Thatcher was so hated, I have to say, when I heard she had died 'Ding Dong The Wicked Witch is Dead' immediately popped into my head. She closed the coal mines putting many out of work, she encouraged people to buy their council houses then ruined so many industries putting more out of work, they couldn't pay their mortgages, banks repossessed their homes, it's no wonder she was hated.

@axeami1354

6 ай бұрын

not just that, she destroyed unions leading to the state we are in today where workers rights are worse than they were in the 90's. she sold off essentially all public infrastructure to what are essentially foreign government run companies and then wondered why were charged Ludacris prices for everting whilst almost not a cent is being spent of this country but is instead being syphoned off to France, Germany ect to make their public services better.

@catherinewilliams3850

6 ай бұрын

@@axeami1354 Exactly, the list of that things crimes against Britain is endless.

@charlestaylor3027

6 ай бұрын

@@axeami1354 she brought democracy to the unions, no more strikes based on a show of hands 2 hours after work in a secret meeting.

@axeami1354

6 ай бұрын

@@charlestaylor3027 That's not even close to true, she destroyed them completely. She used smear campaigns against the lower working class and propaganda to take almost every single bit of bargaining power away from them and made them work in a way that causes the absolute minimum impact to the company they are trying to bargain with. It's the Reason why workers rights have gotten worse in the last 20+ years and wage stagnation. There are a fair few videos explaining it far better than I can.

@joncawte6150

6 ай бұрын

The mines were massive weights around the country's neck, they were being propped up by the public coffers and were only being kept alive by the unions and the tax payers. The coal being produced was of very poor quality and only good to be burnt at home, we couldn't even export it I remember the grip the unions had on this country in the 70s, piles of rubbish piling up for weeks in the streets, power cuts and having to read my books and comics by candlelight, teacher strikes, rail strikes etc, etc.. most people were pissed off with it by the time she got in and started to sort it out. And don't give the BS that no-one agreed with her because if they didn't, she and the tories wouldn't have got in. Unions have their place but they have to have limits or they destroy the people they are meant to protect.

Brits like to make a musical point; for President Trump visiting the UK in 2018 the UK No 18 single was...American Idiot by Green Day. It was no 2 in the download chart!

I am still convinced to this day that 'Ding Dong', did reach number one, but the sales figures were manipulated to make sure it didn't.

@blackbob3358

6 ай бұрын

I'd put mi shirt on it, Gary. Thick as thieves, the lot of 'em.

@tr3vk4m

6 ай бұрын

I think that is almost certainly the case.

@individualmember

6 ай бұрын

Me too

@yossarian6799

6 ай бұрын

You haven't seen chart manipulation until you learn about batshlt-crazy Apartheid-era South Africa. Each Sunday, David Gresham hosted the "Weekly Top 20" chart show on Springbok Radio and listeners were told that the charts were based on sales of 7-singles in the country the previous week. Not only were banned singles left off the chart, but the positions of many songs left listeners scratching their heads. Songs like Silver Convention "Fly Robin Fly" were run into the ground on radio, yet never appeared on the chart. You couldn't swing a cat without hitting a radio playing Jigsaw "Sky High", yet it only reached #19 on the chart. One of the most controversial was "Bohemian Rhapsody", which at the time had become the country's best-selling single to date, yet was obviously deliberately held back from the #1 spot by a terrible local single. It sent chins wagging...

@wilsonx54

6 ай бұрын

Without a doubt.

I grew up in a northern industrial town during the Thatcher years. There are very few people I have truly hated in my life, but she is one of them

@Shikuesi

6 ай бұрын

Is Detroit her fault too?

@charlestaylor3027

6 ай бұрын

Don't happen to live in a council house she let you buy?

@danic9304

6 ай бұрын

@@charlestaylor3027 Nope.

@revsin1886

6 ай бұрын

Nothing to do with the unions destroying British industry, I was lucky, I learned my trade at a small firm, no I in no strikes and we always had work, thanks to the strikers we got sub work on them being out of work...

Love The Stranglers , saw them live many times . Their rendition of "walk on by" is exceptional imo

@KenFullman

6 ай бұрын

I never liked the Stranglers or any of their music but I disliked the notion of censorship even more.

@cyclops60

6 ай бұрын

Their version of 'Walk on by' is as you say exceptional and my favourite song of theirs.

@wessexdruid7598

6 ай бұрын

@@KenFullman They were pretty much the only punk band who knew what they were doing when they made _music...._

@karenbrierley3422

6 ай бұрын

I saw them live 3 times,Skin Deep is excellent 👌

@KenFullman

6 ай бұрын

@@cyclops60 I just found their version of Walk on by. Wasn't immediately struck by it but it grew on me. The instrumental parts were outstanding. I now have a new respect for them.

If the BBC banned a tune it was guaranteed to get up in the charts lolllllll

@stephenlee5929

6 ай бұрын

I love it, Je t'aime, as they sing

I remember the day of Thatcher's funeral, I saw a live roving reporter on TV interviewing the crowd gathered to watch the coffin pass by. "Why are you here today?" they asked one bloke. "Just making sure she's dead".

@watchflexwatchflex5956

6 ай бұрын

You conveniently forget most people were there because they admired her. The overwhelming majority actually. Few boos and few turned their backs but they were, a minority

@revsin1886

6 ай бұрын

I was on Fleet Street more where there to pay respects to one of the best Prime minister's we ever had. Remember seeing a group of lefties around Whitehall later that day getting leathered by some ex paras, they really got stuck into them, seems these youngsters where no match for old lads, for mouthing off, old bill just stood by.

@davidgill5699

6 ай бұрын

​@watchflexwatchflex5956 the North remembers! Tbh I'm from the NE and she does deserve the hate she gets but thank god she was PM for the Falklands. Same with Winston Churchill, worse than terrible as a peace time PM, absolutely the only person for the job in Wartime. It's a shame that all the major parties are trying to be copy of each other. You need right wing since they act as the spear and shield, left wing to improve society, centrists to keep both sides grounded in reality so they don't swing too far either way (ring wing trying to rule by totalitarianism, left wingbeing way too optimistic and foregoing defence)

@elizabethchapman9523

4 ай бұрын

The vast majority of the UK was glad to see the back of her and especially if you lived in the rest of the UK outside the SE England. There were many who turned their backs when her funeral procession went by. She destroyed our industrial base and caused misery to many.

@robertoleary5470

Ай бұрын

@@watchflexwatchflex5956that doesn’t mean she wasn’t hated by a lot of people in Britain as well as Ireland

I recommend the movie Pride for some idea of life under thatcher. It’s also just a wonderful true story about two unlikely groups of people coming together. Would love to see your reaction to it, it’s a lovely heartwarming film.

@janekidd8163

6 ай бұрын

One of my favourite films. I grew up in the Thatcher years, harsh times.

@jlr108

6 ай бұрын

Such a brilliant movie. I've watched it so many times.

@Tidybitz

2 ай бұрын

​@@janekidd8163 ... I was in my 20s during those times and never experienced harsh times. I'm not rich or anything, just an ordinary person. For me the 80s were the last of the greatest years, downhill from then on.

So a big thing in the UK is the Christmas No. 1, (the chart topper in the week of Christmas) in the mid-late 2000s, every year it was the winner of The X Factor. 2009 was the first year where digital sales would count toward chart numbers. The public were sick to death of the bland, terrible, boring, generic, corporate pop rubbish being churned out, and so a grassroots campaign successfully got Rage Against The Machine's 1992 song "Killing In The Name" to Christmas No. 1. They were told when invited to perform live on BBC Radio 1 to censor their lyrics, but they didn't, and were quickly muted. Thought you'd be interested in that, that could've been on here.

@tracymorterphotography

6 ай бұрын

I was wondering if this would be in the comments! I was thinking the other day I'd like to see JJLA watching the moment RATM swore live on BBC Radio 5 Live. I am one of the people who started the campaign!

@Chiggins_

6 ай бұрын

@@tracymorterphotography you did God's work at a time he abandoned us

@yossarian6799

6 ай бұрын

By that point, chart positions in the UK were no longer based on sales, but on how many units the record companies SHIPPED to the record stores. That's why everything was coming in straight at #1 and in some cases, falling clean off the chart within a few weeks.

@Chiggins_

6 ай бұрын

@@yossarian6799 That's... an incredibly stupid way to measure it. If they shipped more copies than other products but sold less, it'd reach number 1 undeservedly. As a measurement for "number 1" it's WHOLLY devoid of meaning

@yossarian6799

6 ай бұрын

@@Chiggins_ "stupid" is a good way to describe the way most things are run these days. But by the early 1990s, when the traditional 45rpm single ceased to be an accurate measure of a song's popularity, the singles chart itself became pointless.

One that slipped uner the BBC radar was The Shamen's number one "Ebenezer Goode" which was about Ecstasy Tablets. In a couple of choruses, instead of "Ezer Goode, he's Ebernezer Goode" they are singing "E's are good, these effing E's are good". Used to crack me up, every time they played it, on daytime radio.

@CelticSaint

4 ай бұрын

It actually got to the Number 1 spot during the governments 'Drugs awareness month'!

Man, I've watched so many of your videos and I really like them but you absolutely should have a career in reading bed time stories. You've got an incredibly soothing voice.

@catherinewilliams3850

6 ай бұрын

I'll second that.

@wiliammound7942

6 ай бұрын

And m

@wiliammound7942

6 ай бұрын

And me

As a Brit. I find it very interesting that many in the U.S. still believe that the British monarchy hold any real power. The British monarchy have not really held any real power since the end of the seventeenth century, with the joint enthronement of William of Orange and his wife Mary Stewart. The British monarch is a purely ceremonial head of state, this is not to suggest they have no soft power; far too much soft power to be truthful. Britain is just as democratic as the U.S., probably more so as Gerrymandering doesn’t exist, neither does registering for voting or barrier to prevent the electorate from voting. The Strangler's "Golden Brown" is well worth a listen.

@hmtqnikitashakur3399

6 ай бұрын

this!

@Fercough

6 ай бұрын

Gerrymandering happens, the case involving the Shirley Porter some decades ago springs to mind. British democracy? Let's have a look. 1. An unelected and unaccountable Head of State. 2. An unelected and unaccountable House of Lords. 3. An elected House of Commons via a 'first past the poet's system. Our democracy is in a terrible mess.

@maxwest6595

6 ай бұрын

Don't forget the unelected house is the upper house.

@stephenrobinson3681

6 ай бұрын

Shirley "The Tesco" Porter tried to manipulate the political borders of parts of London. However, it was local and not national constancies she was Gerrymandering, she was also caught and penalised for her indiscretions and eventually had to flee the U.K. Opposed to Gerrymandering in the U.S., where it is worn like a badge of honour by the culprits.@@Fercough

@stephenrobinson3681

6 ай бұрын

Benign is not a word I'd use when it comes to monarch and the do have have turbo charged soft power, but the politician can always overrule then in the end. Their soft power tends to be used for personal, social, their monetary affairs and never pieces of major legislation as this would cause a constitutional crisis.@SmearCampaignUK

Another song that got to number 1 years after it was released was Rage Against The Machine - Killing In the Name. A lot people were fed up with X-Factor song getting to the top of the charts for Christmas. So a grass roots campaign was started, to get Killing In the Name to the top, and it won.

@royw-g3120

6 ай бұрын

I was very happy that Xmas.

@xBoringPerfectionx

6 ай бұрын

Yeah surprised it didn't make the list tbh

@awakeningcry

6 ай бұрын

@@xBoringPerfectionx as the meme goes, "never go full WatchMojo"

@fayesouthall6604

6 ай бұрын

@@royw-g3120no fan of RATM but I was pleased it stopped the X factor dross.

@BennySantana501

6 ай бұрын

That was one of the great Christmas #1 moments. The monopoly on Pop Stars/Pop Idol/X-Factor dross taking the number 1 slot with substandard pop-ballads/sub-standard cover versions got rather tiresome, and the RATM outro especially summed up exactly what the general public had to say about manufactured pop.

The Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead one always reminds me of when we managed to get American Idiot to 25 in the UK Top 40 (14 years after it's release) for Trump's visit in 2018... 😂 Good times...

@EnchantedTooWell

6 ай бұрын

but trump became president in 2016...

@ruthfoley2580

6 ай бұрын

I know the people who ran the campaign.

@philhebden374

6 ай бұрын

@@ruthfoley2580 leftist fascists

@pamelaadam9207

6 ай бұрын

​@EnchantedTooWell but we arranged it for his official visit as a welcome to the murderer

The Number One they didn't ban but might have was Ebenezer Goode by The Shamen, at the height of rave culture, the chorus of which goes "Es are good, Es are good, E's heaven, Es are good". I was never sure if they just didn't twig, or thought banning it would just bring it more attention and sales.

@stephenlee1833

6 ай бұрын

I remember this being a huge hit and honestly I think most of the country was oblivious to it's true meaning. Everyone genuinely thought he was singing "he's a good, he's a good, he's ebenezer good"!

@lovelyweeburd

6 ай бұрын

@@stephenlee1833 *” ‘Ezer Goode, ‘Ezer Goode, he’s Ebenezer Goode”… but obviously 💊🙂❤️🕊️

@yolandasamuels3213

6 ай бұрын

To be fair, I thought they were singing "Ezer Goode, Ezer Goode, he's Ebenezer Goode"!

I had to go abroad during the dark days of Thatcher, and she certainly was a witch in my opinion. You must check out Golden Brown, and Walk on By, by the Stranglers.

The Stranglers are a great band that have sadly been largely forgotten by the public in general.

@Stephen-Steven-Stephens

6 ай бұрын

How can he not have heard Golden Brown .....??

@stevesoutar3405

6 ай бұрын

Standing on the beaches, lookin' at the peaches ...

The Stranglers are brilliant. I think you'll like them. They started as a punk band, but also play melodic ballads and over the years a variety of other genres. They have a unique sound thanks to Dave Greenfield's keyboards. For their heavier stuff I recommend: Peaches, No More Heroes, Hanging Around, Skin Deep, & No Mercy For more melodic songs try: Golden Brown (their biggest hit), Strange little Girl, A Mid-Summer's Night Dream & Always the Sun. For more quirky stuff try : We are the Men in Black, Waltzing Black. Of their more recent stuff 'Norfolk Coast' is a great album. Try the title song first.

@Snarnler

6 ай бұрын

Saw them with John Cooper Clarke at Leeds, In i think 77, when I was 16. A long time ago.

@elemar5

6 ай бұрын

I'm a big fan of the Stranglers and never really classed them as punk.

hadn't thought of that before - never really analysed the lyrics of Oliver's army, but I take it Oliver must refer to Cromwell, who was a genocidal murderer in Ireland.

I saw The Kinks live twice in ‘93. The first of the two was at The Barrowlands in Glasgow and the first song of the encore was Days, which Ray dedicated to Dave. I think they seem to get on better when they don’t have live in each others pockets. The second time was at Glastonbury and to be honest, I was a bit too sh!tfaced to take in too many details. Thatcher pretty much neutered the Trade Unions in the UK, she also sold off British Telecom, British Gas, The Electricity Board, British Rail, local bus services, Water and Sewage British Rail amongst others. Of course the privatisation of these organisations brought in some money in the short term, it has in the long term done nothing but enable the privatised version of these companies to price gouge the public and stripped the public purse of innumerable revenue…all whilst giving subsidies or retaining parts that don’t generate any profit but cost a lot in maintenance…and then there’s the Poll Tax, the implementation of which caused riots when the police attacked protestors, but essentially it was a property tax that every adult in the home was liable for and not just a household bill and was introduced at a time when the population was still trying to recover from really high unemployment rates (11.9%), a recession and the decimation of communities due to Thatcher playing her part in killing off UK industries such as steelworks, coal mines and shipbuilding. She then made the extra spiteful decision to bring it in up in Scotland a year before it was to be implemented in the rest of the UK, meaning that the Scots had to deal with this unfair form of taxation for four years to the rest of The Union’s three.

@angeladormer6659

6 ай бұрын

I saw Kinks in the 60s at a small club near to where I lived in London and they were good but could not sing in tune. Saw many of 60s bands there before they got really famous.

@lynnejamieson2063

6 ай бұрын

@@angeladormer6659 I saw Blur play at Glastonbury in ‘92 and Damon Albarn was painfully out of tune throughout. So I perfectly understand that some bands should only be recorded. Though I have to admit that when I saw The Kinks in ‘93 both Ray and Dave were in fine voice and the band in general performed wonderfully.

@catherinewilliams3850

6 ай бұрын

Yes the evil old bag lived too long as far as I'm concerned.

When Thatcher died there were street parties across Britain, I was down in London at the time and there were literally thousands on the streets celebrating the news of her death. I live in Scotland and Thatcher to this day is detested by the vast majority of Scots for many reasons. One of which was when Thacher was asked by a journalist many years after she left politics, why she introduced the Poll Tax in Scotland before the rest of the UK, it was reported that she dismissively said "They're only Scots". So you can see why she is not particularly liked in Scotland.

@Michael75579

6 ай бұрын

It's not just Thatcher; the Scots hate the Tories in general. The Tories haven't had over 50% of the vote in Scotland since 1955, which is also the last year they got 50% of the seats. They had 31/72 seats in 1958, and 24/72 is their best result since then. In the 1997 election they won no seats, and only one seat in 2001, 2005, 2010 and 2015. They picked up a bit in 2017 with 13/59 but they're back down to 6/59 now.

@Saor_Alba

6 ай бұрын

@@Michael75579 I'm Scottish and totally agree, I was a Labour member and activist for 42 years up until 2015, the reasons for my departure I won't go into here. I like many other Labour activists after the activities of the Better Together cabal now support the SNP. In my constituency, there hasn't been a Tory MP since 1924 when Tory Stanley Baldwin became PM.

@sharonwelsh8102

6 ай бұрын

She wasn't popular in the North East of England too

@pamelaadam9207

6 ай бұрын

​@@Saor_Albahi up where I am liebour shard platforms with the bnp and NF at bitter together gatherings disgusting behaviour

@watchflexwatchflex5956

6 ай бұрын

This is such a lie. There, were street parties in a couple of mining towns and no more than a few hundred celebrating on the streets of London. Vast majority at her funeral were very respectful and apauded as her cobfin went past. Those who hated her, really hated her but she won three elections and millions of ordinary working class people voted for her. We, weren't all miners expecting jobs for life.

I think the best way to have a hit record is to get it banned by the BBC 😂 The Stranglers were brilliant, definitely recommend giving them a listen Peaches, Golden Brown, 96 Tears, Always the Sun and they did a very good version of Walk On By. My husband and I saw Ray Davies from The Kinks live about 8 years ago, he sang all The Kinks hits, it was amazing. I Loved hearing my favourite Sunny Afternoon and had a real hair on the back of my neck standing up moment when he sang Waterloo Sunset, great times. Wishing you well and sending peace.

@obi-ron

6 ай бұрын

It worked for Jasper Carrot with The Magic Roundabout. Top of The Pops would only let him play the other A side of the single: Funky Moped on air.

I remember as a kid the miner's strikes in the 1980. A couple of years ago I was seeing a lass from Barnsley Northern England she was even today she still feels the devastation today to the pit closures. They are still very angry.

@philhebden374

6 ай бұрын

because they never moved on. they went on strike tried to bring the country to its knees and got BTFU and have spent the last 40 years moaning.

9:37 "I didn't know it was offensive" I think you might not have been looking at the lyric that they are talking about...

In talking about Relax, he said the lyrics "went over my head"😀.........

The Stranglers, wow, my favourite band. I have seen them live so many times. I'm UK based and went to see them play in Barcelona in March 2023 and I will see the them again in March this year. Wonderful live band with a legacy of fantastic songs. It shows how long they have been around when the only tickets available for the Wolverhampton gig are standing as seats and balcony are sold out. Can't wait!!!

@julianaylor4351

6 ай бұрын

I only got to see them live once, when they were support to the Who, at original Wembley Stadium, an amazing live band.

@racheltaylor6578

6 ай бұрын

Saw them in Brixton last year.Still a great band.

You have to check out the Stranglers but I'm sure you'll recognise Golden Brown when you hear it. Lurve your style BTW, soft and calm and with a load of great musical knowledge and insight. Great work❤

Prodigy Is one of the best videos made So clever and the end twist Awesome

Your voice is so soothing and you have a lot of insight into each song.

My favourite story about Creep is that Prince once performed it live, and was recorded doing so. The video made it onto KZread, and Prince submitted a copyright complaint to get the video removed. Thom Yorke responded saying "my copyright, put the video back up" (not verbatim).

Stranglers are classic 👌 Golden Brown is a favorite

Another scandal was "Je t'aime ... moi non plus" by Serge Gainsborogh and Jane Birkin in the late 1960s -- mainly because there was a lengthy passage where Birkin just moaned and sighed, ostensibly mimicking sexual sounds and very suggestive lyrics, like "you are the wave, coming and going" (or words to that effect). A lot of people were scandalized, even though it was sung in French and not many would've understood the words anyway!

@yossarian6799

6 ай бұрын

... yet the Chakachas "Jungle Fever" from 1972 featured orgasmic groans that left male listeners checking their backs for nail scratches

Can we agree that when Boris dies we’ll play ‘if I only had a brain’?

@pathopewell1814

6 ай бұрын

Actually Boris has a first class, in every sense of the word, brain. Have you a First from Oxford?

@brad_8711

6 ай бұрын

@@pathopewell1814 no, I work for the nhs that the tories have systematically destroyed over the past decade, and a great many of his detractors were educated at Oxford. I like that the usual argument to an obviously flippant comment on KZread is to vaguely attempt to insult someone’s intelligence. Says a lot about the current political climate.

@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek

6 ай бұрын

​@@pathopewell1814gammon

@mattsmith5421

6 ай бұрын

​@@pathopewell1814 he clearly didn't use that Oxford education when deciding if having parties was a good idea when had banned everyone from doing the same. So yeah how intelligent is he?

@cyclops60

6 ай бұрын

My choice is 'Liar' by the Sex Pistols

Thatcher was hated throughout Britain and rightly so.

@Isleofskye

6 ай бұрын

That is why she won 3 successive elections. You may not like hat but she was "hated" so much she just kept winning. My Uncle from The London Docks hated her as she stopped their xxxxtaking practices as Red Ken Livingstone's propaganda machine; "The GLC": Greater London Council which she shut down and I worked in Fleet Street during The Wapping/The Sub dispute when she ended the practice of The Unions, not The Employers running the industry. Imagine you and I running a Business and not being able to employ who WE want, Millions of working-class people like me would still be paying Council rent if she did not give us the chance to buy and be rent-free for life.

@glenn20081965

6 ай бұрын

What nonsense... you're talking from your single point of view.

@Westcountrynordic

6 ай бұрын

Thing I take away from the reaction to Thatcher's death was that it's ok for people including those in Liverpool to celebrate her death, YET when somebody starts celebrating the death of those at Hillsborough there is outrage.

@Isleofskye

6 ай бұрын

@AirstripOne-nd4du She was disliked even hated by The Left for loving Britain and putting Britain and British people first. How evil...

@Westcountrynordic

6 ай бұрын

@AirstripOne-nd4du Manchester Utd fans have celebrated the deaths at Hillsborough as have other fans across Europe. Liverpool fans have celebrated Manchester Utd players killed in plane crash. It doesn't matter if government policies were implement shouldn't be celebrating anybody's death. Btw when it comes to implement polices I can think of some from the early 1970s that would class as just as bad as what Thatcher and her Govt did.

Ding dong the witch is dead was used as the outro for the song 'The Day that Thatcher dies” by Hefner long before Thatchers death. During her rule there were literally dozens of songs criticizing her or hoping for her death. "Margaret on the Guillotine" by the Smiths and "Tramp the dirt down" by Elvis Costello being just two, amongst various rock, reggae, metal and ballad style songs. You can find lists of anti-thatcher songs on line. You will also find that various news-quiz style shows dedicated quite some time to appreciating her death.

@Shikuesi

6 ай бұрын

So "TDS" started decades before 2016.

OMG he's never heard of the stranglers and peaches is a classic

Wow, even as a Brit, I had no idea that Creep was considered so depressing by the Beeb. Personally, the track Thom Yorke did with UNKLE in 1998 Rabbit in Your Headlights...is by far the most sad, depressing and haunting track. Truly beautiful and melancholy with an incredible video. Also worth checking out on the same UNKLE album Psyence Fiction is Lonely Soul with vocals from Richard Ashcroft of The Verve - another beautiful track. The whole album is pretty solid to be honest 🥰

@jasonmcclatchie6877

6 ай бұрын

Thom Yorke and Bjorks "I've seen it all" wasn't exactly a barrel of laughs either

@royw-g3120

6 ай бұрын

Definitely had a copy of that but not listened to it for years. Time to dig through the CDs.

@yzolakitchi

6 ай бұрын

@@royw-g3120 I've been checking out some of the music videos this part week. Definitely a vibe 😍

I saw the strangler live supporting Alice Cooper, and they were great. This was before their keyboardist passed away.

The Stranglers - No More Heroes, Golden Brown. 'Old blues innuendo' - Julia Lee - The Spinach Song/ I Didn't Like It The First Time, definitely not about spinach 😁 Search on here for Frankie Boyle on Thatcher's Funeral....😏

The beeb bannings can be hilarious eg when they banned Lulu's "Boom bang a bang " during the Kuwait war or some other conflict...presumably as bombs go,er,bang 🎩

Thatcher was the Education Secretary in the 1970s. She decimated small milk producers and helped make post-war children more malnourished by cancelling the third of a pint of milk for children under seven. When I was in infants and junior school Tom Parker's dairy was literally across the road from the school. He milked his 14 grass-fed cows then deliver the milk to us. Tom also had a local door-to-door milk round with the milk floats pulled by horses. The milkman would visit streets with his horse following behind unguided, pulling the float and providing fertiliser for the local gardens as he went along the road. I see Tom Parker's Creamery has survived, though not in the same county.

@ffotograffydd

6 ай бұрын

I can’t stand Thatcher, but to be fair she simply cancelled free school milk for kids like me who didn’t need it. Those who did still got it. And those of us who hated warm school milk were grateful that we didn’t have to drink it anymore. Given everything else she did, such as decimating the steel and coal industries and selling off our public utilities, getting rid of free school milk for all is very minor!

@jane1975

6 ай бұрын

@workthinton3637: The reason why she stopped "free school milk" in the Comprehensive system, Prep schools still had Milk at Break times as I remember it in the early 80's, was because the country could not afford it, that money could be used elsewhere. People are forgetting that she was a mother, and naturally thought that parents could feed and water their own children and not rely on the Government via the taxpayer ie other children's parents to do it, "Free" means someone else is paying for it and why should someone else's parent be paying for another person's child to get a meal or drink, when they should be doing that themselves. If I recall it was also her Government that dropped corporal punishment in both Private ( 1984 ) and State ( 1987 ) and in her earlier years before she entered politics she was all for caning, with hindsight the way children behave today assaulting teachers etc, maybe it was a bad thing.

@worthington3637

6 ай бұрын

@@ffotograffydd I've just read that it was Ted Heath who canceled the milk for over 7's. Thatcher was apparently against it according to recently released documents. Lest we forget it was Harold Wilson who started the ball rolling in 1968 by cutting milk for secondary schools. Nowadays children under 5 and at approved day care facilities for 2 hours or more are still entitled to free milk.

Golden Brown, Its a classic. Its about Herion. Never had it but the song is for everyone!

@stephenwhite345

6 ай бұрын

A very peculiar thing with golden brown was its introduction on radio 4, regarded as a codgers/ highbrow station, it gained popularity very fast, because it was a very gentle on the ear, the listeners hadn't any idea it was about heroin, it was just a beautiful tune to them and they were dead right about that.

My Iron Lung is about Creep and it's quite the metaphor. Also I'm not sure you looked up the correct slur from Oliver's Army, it is instantaneously obviously offensive dude!

She was awful, when the alert came up on my TV that she died I called my mom, she was so happy she lived thru the coal strikes etc

The Stranglers were/are fabulous! Do check them out, especially "Walk On By" (plus 'Go Buddy Go', 'Duchess', 'Golden Brown', 'No More Heroes', '96 Tears'...)

@jackie6343

6 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤ The Stranglers

@oakesave

6 ай бұрын

? and the Mysterions 96 tears is superior.

Been a Stranglers fan since first heard them with The Raven in 1979

Yes, the Stranglers are still playing. I have tickets to see them at the Piece Hall, Halifax, Yorkshire (look it up) this Summer. Can't wait.

Highly recommend checking out the Stranglers first two albums, Rattus Norvegicus and No More Heroes in that order. I saw them at Guildford Uni in 78 and are my favorite punk band of that era.

I remember a classic comment on a radio phone in a couple of years ago. 'I left the UK for Canada some years ago because of a woman' 'Who was the lucky lady'? 'Margaret Thatcher'.

@jane1975

6 ай бұрын

That was another factor, a misogynistic factor, many didn’t like being told what to do by a woman!

@jonjuliecat

6 ай бұрын

@@jane1975 We didn't listen to her. We rioted.

@jane1975

6 ай бұрын

@@jonjuliecat Because you were thugs, anarchic thugs egged on Marxists like Scargill.

You should look up the picture from the inside of the gatefold LP cover for Welcome ti the Pleasure Done by Frankie goes to Hollywood…

Try the Stranglers "Golden Brown" too, it's one you may recognise. Talked to JJ and Dave Greenfield a few times when both lived in our village, Dave, who pased away with covid a couple of years ago, didn't particularly like being classed as "Punk", I think they would more likely have been classed as a slightly different "Pub Rock" band, like Dr Feelgood or Eddie and the Hot Rods, if they had been successful a little earlier? Thry were a bit older than most Punk Rock groups aswell. Dave didn't complain too much though, as the "Punk" tag probably helped their success. Saw them at Wembly Stadium supporting The Who along with AC/DC back in '79 and a few times a lot more recently in our local village club, where Dave would occasionally try out some new stuff along with a few old favourites.

Saw the stranglers twice. Brilliant

The stranglers were/are a great band. Did some really classic songs with very interesting themes.

Elvis Costello is quality and he hasn't removed the slur from his song online which is good .

love your bleep noises , very funny!

The Stranglers also got into trouble for using strippers on stage for Nice 'n' Sleazy. But you should try their songs Golden Brown, Get A Grip as well as Peaches.

Elvis Costello wanted to criticise the Falklands War, so he released a limited edition single, under the pseudonym of The Imposter... it's called Pills And Soap. Definitely worth a listen, in fact many of his song lyrics are edgy.

@jane1975

6 ай бұрын

@julianaylor4351: I suppose he wanted the Islands to go back to a country that never owned them in the first place, in fact didn't even exist when we established our own people on the islands in 1830, before that it was French territory but it didn't succeed so they handed it over to us. The Argentinian Government only tries to use "The Falkand Islands" as a) Smoke Screen to distract the countries people from their failures and stir up nationalism and b) They are also after any oil reserves around the Islands.

@johncahalane7327

6 ай бұрын

Costello was making also a very good point at the time that the working class understood in Liverpool, Newcastle, and Sunderland in the dole office the rectangular card for British Army recruitment £63 a week to get killed or maimed in Belfast....built up as you can see the world here's your chance, my son, get in....questions were being asked before the Royal and political scandals broke out,there was a stirring in Middle England....the lyrics pointed out historic things Brits didn't want to hear about society that was actually Victorian...

@jane1975

6 ай бұрын

@@johncahalane7327 Sounds more like he was anti military, which is another trait of socialists, champagne or otherwise. Cannot possibly put a uniform on and fight FOR their country, don’t mind others doing it but spit on them ( literally ) if they do. Lots of people were willing and proud to fight and die for their country, sounds like the people of these constituencies at the time preferred to be living off the taxpayer, waiting for “ right job “ to land on their laps and fight against the country rather than fight for it - unprincipled.

Thatcher was detested by many in the broken UK especially in Scotland She attended the Scottish cup final and in a rare outbreak of unity both Celtic and Dundee United supporters Booed and jeered her.

If you havent watched it the Radiohead Iceberg video is worth watching for your personal consumption. Creep was very important as it was the reason Radiohead modified their music. People liked it so much they only wanted Creep played and the band got angry and changed direction with the bends to move towards what they really wanted to do. In recent years they started playing it again

One of the most evil people in history, who has done great harm to the U.K.

@DrJosepi

6 ай бұрын

That's a bit harsh. JJLA seems like a nice guy to me.

@140cabins

6 ай бұрын

@@DrJosepi Reposting WatchMojo videos is just evil.

@jackie6343

6 ай бұрын

Who ? Robin Hood 😅😅😂😂

@julianaylor4351

6 ай бұрын

Thatcher's worst legacy is the lack of social housing.

I bought the 12 inch of this before it came out unheard. Loved it. Saw them when they were a support act to the British group James.

You really need to listen to the Stranglers.

There are two versions of Frankie goes to Hollywood's "Relax". The longer Original version, with the controversial gay bar music video and a shorter American version with some changed lyrics with a music video at a concert.

'Ding Dong'. Elvis Costello also did a tribute to Thatcher called 'Tramp The Dirt Down'. Give it a go

I was never really a fan of The Strangles, but the French band members brother was a French teacher at the school I was at at the time, pupils would take record sleeves etc to school and the teacher/brother would pass them on to get them signed, it was stopped by the headmaster once he found out, I thought that it was good that both brothers were happy to take the time/make the effort.

I'm surprised they didn't mention Killing In The Name that was a Christmas number one here years after it's initial release, again due to a glass roots campaign against the Christmas number one spot having been populated by the winners of a talent show, I think it was "Pop Idol" for the previous few years. You should definitely check out more songs by The Stranglers, they have a huge back catalogue, filled with great songs like No More Heroes, (Get A) Grip (On Yourself), Strange Little Girl, Always The Sun, Golden Brown and many more.

You must listen to Peaches by the Stranglers. The Stranglers were fantastic: No More Heroes, Hanging Around, a very different cover version of Walk On By etc.

Golden Brown by the Stranglers is a favourite and probably the best known it is if course a drug reference. I got it on a compliation album whhen i was young because it skso had Ghost town by the specials in it

The Smack My Bitch Up video was stunning, brilliantly done. Another of theirs I love is for Baby's Got a Temper (and the DVD release commentary track is genius). The Thatcher thing was like a country wide release of emotion, she gutted the life of so many small communities and industries its no surprise feeling ran so deep.

@Shoomer1988

6 ай бұрын

So may people went crazy about "Smack My Bitch Up" video without even seeing it - accusing The Prodigy of misogyny. If they has seen it they would have known it shows the exact opposite.

@Isleofskye

6 ай бұрын

Thatcjer wanted Businesses not to be giant loss makers like muy Industry: The National Coal Board had become. Can you imagine the cheek?

@jane1975

6 ай бұрын

@veretbowring: Only the left hated Thatcher [ and by the sounds of it still does ] and its "luvvies". This country has only ever had two great Prime Ministers, Churchill and Thatcher and that's it, you cannot keep an industry going that is no longer viable, in 1979 when she became PM our country was literally on its knees, businesses had to shut down since they were not making any money due to the fact that her predecessors, Wilson and Callaghan had been taxing high earners 83% and they left the country, and take their money with them and sounds like many today are already planning to leave yet again if there is a Labour Government. This bankrupted the country and businesses had to close as they couldn't afford to stay open, it took her until about 86 to turn it around, if Labour had stayed in power, although Callaghan wasn't the hard left like Labour is steadily growing into and he also knew what a woman was, the UK would have looked like North Korea by the end of the 1990's. Even since Thatcher gave people the right to buy their own council homes, giving people social mobility and aspiration, those former working classes have been going blue ever since. If you are still voting for Labour after 35 then you are either rich, whereby socialist ideas don't effect you or naive.

Costello is a genius

You won't regret checking out the Stranglers. We also have The Jam & solo Paul Weller who nobody else seems to have heard of but prolific with hits here in UK.

With relax, only the video was banned. One BBC Radio One DJ refused to play it & that is his perogative. However, he announced on national radio that he wasn't going to play it, thereby ensuring it went to number one.

That “Ohhhhhhhh” was sublime 🤣

Hate is too mild for what many of us felt about thatcher ...spit...

Do check out The Stranglers, one of the best UK bands of the late seventies and eighties.

Thatcher took away free milk from children at school.The milk snaatcher.

You have such a listenable voice. If you did audio books I would probably like them a lot more

Another British band that have spanned the decades, is Status Quo. Or the three chord wonders, as they were known. But in an affectionate way, because they were always fantastic live.

@sharonbunn2363

6 ай бұрын

Quo!!!! Saw them 4 times in my yoof. They were awesome live. Hawkwind were another good live band, even saw them at Stonehenge (that was a trippy weekend). Lindisfarne were great live too, saw them 4 or 5 times, best one was the first Nostell Priory gig. Jethro Tull were headlining but I had tried and liked the Theakston's Old Peculiar so don't remember much about Tull's performance. xxx

@michaelking3629

6 ай бұрын

Yep, saw the Quo live several times back in the day and they were loud. The last time I saw them they had the amps ramped right up to the point where I had to leave because of the searing pain in my eardrums was agonising. No kidding, I wasn’t able to hear properly for a good couple of week’s after and I’m certain that it never fully recovered. I’m 63 now and definitely hard of hearing, but it was a memorable gig. 😊

@brigidsingleton1596

6 ай бұрын

​@@sharonbunn2363 Hic poor hic Jethro Tull hic?! 😊❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🖖

@Gill3D

6 ай бұрын

I only ever saw Quo live once. They were covering other bands' hits and Francis Rossi announced this meant they would sometimes need to play a FOURTH chord!

@brigidsingleton1596

6 ай бұрын

@@Gill3D Rest In Peace Rick 😥

The 1931 record "My girl's Pussy" by 1930s English jazz/dance band Harry Roy and his Bat Club Boys was never played on the radio. It was covered in 1978 by the American counter- culture cartoonlst Robert Crumb.

My mother never had a political bone in her body. When it came to Thatcher she said "that woman did more harm to this country than Hitler ever did".

@charlestaylor3027

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like most of the bone was in her head.

@ClearLight1967

6 ай бұрын

@@charlestaylor3027 sounds like yours is up your arse.

The Strangler “Golden Brown and Peaches” try and find the Egypt video of Golden Brown. ❤️

You should definitely check out Golden Brown, by the Stranglers! It's actually about a certain illegal substance, and I'm guessing the Beeb didn't realise it, since it wasn't banned :D The lead singer now says its about a woman, and an illegal substance. He made no mention of the latter at the time though :D Brilliant song, a favourite of mine to this day.

We're still reeling from the policies of thatcher, especially in Northern England.

@pamelaadam9207

6 ай бұрын

And in Scotland because we don't vote tory she too hard revenge, evil to the core only little engerlanders tories and racists still love her

Our ability to get away with swearing in common parlance, has led to us having a world beating level of insults!!

“NEIL, the bathrooms free,unlike the country under the Thatcherite junta!” RIP Rik.

@ThereIsTooMuchButter

6 ай бұрын

❤

"Let's Spend The Night Together" was the A-side to the North American release but most stations went with the B-side, "Ruby Tuesday". It's likely that the B-side was chosen more because of the "Psychedelia" trend at the time rather than any objection to the subject matter of the former. Many American stations wouldn't play The Rolling Stones "Street Fighting Man" following the riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Most US Rock stations wouldn't play Saliva's "Click Click Boom", released shortly after 9-11. Two 1971 tracks found themselves snubbed by mainstream radio. The Buoys "Timothy" told the story of men trapped in a mine who resorted to cannibalism. The lyrics weren't explicit, but the implication was obvious. The record company insisted that "Timothy" was in fact... a mule. Yeah. Sure. Even more dark was Bloodrock's disturbing "DOA", with its lyrics from the perspective of the survivor of a mid-air plane crash as he lay dying in the hospital. The FCC tried to have the song banned because the sirens in the background of the song violated regulations regarding civilian use of emergency sirens. But you couldn't get any more insane than state-controlled Top 40 radio in South Africa. Controversial songs like "Lola" were untouched, and that particular Kinks hit went to #1 on the charts. But a few years laters, The Osmonds "Crazy Horses" was banned because the nutbag rightwing censors insisted the song was about heroin abuse. The Osmonds. Mormons. Heroin abuse. Let that sink in ... Of course the Beatles were banned from the SABC following John Lennon's "Jesus Christ" comment in 1966... but nearly everyone continued to buy their records. Yet none of John Lennon's solo material was ever banned, nor that of any of the other three Beatles. In fact, "Imagine" reached #1 on the chart and is of course, a rock classic. So you get banned because you say kids cared more about rock music than about religion... but you can doubt the very existence of God and that's perfectly okay. Barry McGuire's "Eve of Destruction" was also banned on South African radio but the single sold like hotcakes. The insanity of that country continued with its local chart. With no "official" chart, the weekly Top 20 from Springbok Radio was the rule of thumb. Each week listeners were told that the chart was based on weekly sales of "7-singles" as they're called there. Yet top-selling singles that were banned from SABC never appeared on the chart.

You MUST listen to walk on by, by the stranglers its brilliant!

'Thatcher - the milk snatcher' was the chant. (she removed free school milk from primary school children as well as closing down all the coal mines and losing millions of jobs)

@andrewbclinton

6 ай бұрын

did you know that the previous Labour government closed more mines. can you imagine kids these days drinking milk,,there was loads who wouldnt drink the milk when I was a kid in the 70s, I would drink all their milk,,Im 6 foot 4 now

I hate munchkins but I bought this a player it so loudly my neighbours were singing along

It's a shame that the Stranglers aren't big in the US. I think they're considered a 1 hit wonder there for Golden Brown, but they have so many great songs. No More Heroes is one of my all time favourites. RIP Dave Greenfield, the keyboard wizard.

You have to understand what that thing did to the north of england you could argue we are still feeling the effects of it to this day it is a very fitting song for it.

Radiohead getting shadow-banned for 'Creep' when Black Sabbath could do Top of the Pops playing 'Paranoid'? (I think it made No.2!)

Its an exagerration that Creep was banned ,it wasn't they simply edited out the swear word replacing It with the word very , it was and still is played on Radio. There's all sorts of inconsistencies in that video. The BBC in the 60s and 70s were censored regularly as they were and still is publicly funded by the UK government. They often had to get some songs passed by the public sensor as such anything that had a commercial mention had to had an edited version. Bans for songs that contained sexual references weren't always successful as some sensors didn't get the references. An example of one song getting past the sensor but shouldn't have was Walk on the wild side by Lou Reed. In the case of Relax it was played constantly on the radio until a BBC dj called Mike Read questioned the lyrical content ,by that time it was too late everyone heard it 😆

Stranglers golden brown was the theme to the film snatch. And a great album 👌

Another one for Thatcher, 'Tramp the Dirt Down' from Elvis Costello.

Good to hear that over in the states you've never hear anything good about Thatcher. It's impossible to insult her: her reality trumps any abuse.

Even today no one will play Marianne Faithfull - Why'd Ya Do It

Saw The Stranglers last year.Still great.

The notable thing about popular music in the UK is that it tended to run parallel genres which got mixed into the same charts, there was the more pop type stuff and the indie and rock stuff some crossed over, but the BBC charts were more selective at the time

BBC: Can't play Creep it's too depressing Radiohead about to release OK Computer: Hold my beer