"16 is borderline a child" And yet, the US lets these children lose behind the steering wheels of two-ton machines called cars. The irony.

@simonford1659

11 ай бұрын

Loose,

@EEmB

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!!

@peterbrown1012

11 ай бұрын

And have guns

@EclecticWarrior58

11 ай бұрын

@@peterbrown1012 The USA lets almost anyone have guns !

@RWL2012

11 ай бұрын

the UK does if they're disabled, but even the normal 17 is legally a child (minor).

I’ve always found it strange that an American can get married, have a baby, join the army, get sent to war, lose a leg and be sent home. Back to their wife and child, but will be unable to drink a beer because they’re not 21. Meanwhile in the UK you can buy your own alcohol at 18. Drink in a restaurant or pub at 16 with a meal. Or drink at home from the age of 5 with parental consent.

@B4MBI72

10 ай бұрын

Nope, you can drink in a resteraunt with your parents from the age of 5.

@JarlGrimmToys

10 ай бұрын

@@B4MBI72 Everyone has the easy ability to google the laws on alcohol consumption and age limits in the UK. My source is the government website. What is your source that says 5 year olds can drink alcohol in a restaurant?

@iallyl3877

10 ай бұрын

@@B4MBI72 you can go into a pub or a premises that serves alcohol with an adult if you are 16 or under but you cannot drink alcohol. a 5 year old cannot drink alcohol in a pub or restaurant with a meal the OP is correct in there statement. taken from: www.gov.uk/alcohol-young-people-law However, if you’re 16 or 17 and accompanied by an adult, you can drink (but not buy) beer, wine or cider with a meal. If you’re 16 or under, you may be able to go to a pub (or premises primarily used to sell alcohol) if you’re accompanied by an adult. However, this isn’t always the case. It can also depend on the specific conditions for that premises.

@caolkyle

10 ай бұрын

@@JarlGrimmToysfrom memory you’re correct. You’re allowed to have a single beer or shandy when you’re 16 in a pub, as long as you have a meal with it and someone above 18 is supervising (sure it’s not restricted to parent/guardian)

British teenagers can join the British military at age 16. But they can't go into combat until they are 18.

@martineyles

11 ай бұрын

If you're under 18 when you join and have been in the army for six months, then at 18 you won't be able to leave. I think that the six month period shouldn't start until you reach combat age of 18. So someone who joined the army should be able to leave until 6 months after their 18th birthday. Also, if you're old enough to join the army in any capacity, you really should be considered to be old enough to vote, as the government of the day will influence which countries you might be asked to take part in wars against.

@pauledwinmarshall4213

11 ай бұрын

Yes we can I joined as a junior soldier at age 15 and half. Military studies in the morning and education in afternoon. In three years at the junior leaders we did a hell of a lot others only dreamed about. Gliding lessons. White water canoe and parachute training as I said so much and would take days to report on But I did gain high education certificates and was trained in man management a skill I am thankful for as a civilian. So I am all for junior soldiers even we by law could not go into a combat situation

@Mark-Haddow

11 ай бұрын

Combat can begin at 17 and three quarters. I joined at 16, a few months before Saddam invaded Kuwait. I had finished basic training but was still in my first year of Signals college training. The youngest combat soldier we had, in Desert Storm, was 17.

@ChronicPlays

11 ай бұрын

​@Mark-Haddow Sadam invaded Kuwait in 1990. That was over 30 years ago.. You can't be deployed to combat if you're under 18 now.

@Mark-Haddow

11 ай бұрын

@@ChronicPlays Two things here, 1. So what if its 30 years later. 2. It's still possible to serve in combat at 17. Just for our sake, how old were you when you enlisted, and when?

Quality not quantity 🇬🇧

@stuartfitch7093

11 ай бұрын

Correct. How many Leopards and Bradley's have I seen recently that have been toasted in the Ukraine? Lots of them. How many Challenger 2s? None. The main battle tank that's never lost a single unit in combat.

@michaeldoolan7595

10 ай бұрын

We are not quality anymore. The best soldiers in the world are now in Ukraine. They are all male, no women on the killing end. No diversity and blooded.

@kingseb2252

10 ай бұрын

@@stuartfitch7093vehicles like the leopard and abrams and Bradleys are still very good it's how they are used that makes a difference and ukraine only recently got challengers so some could be destroyed in the future

@Axoboos

10 ай бұрын

Well said mate. I remember seeing a training thing between the two army’s. I remember the British soldiers shredding the Americans. I can’t remember where i saw it. Maybe twitter

@kingseb2252

10 ай бұрын

@@Axoboos yeah it's hard to tell which is better because i watched another infographics show and they said how the british military has degraded so much that they had to borrow military vehicles and weapons from the americans and they got the name "borrowers"

Bigger is not always better. As Al Murray said we ruled the whole of India with two blokes and a bike.

@ChronicPlays

11 ай бұрын

This made me giggle.

@alicemilne1444

11 ай бұрын

That's just Al doing his ignorant pub landlord thing. The Indian civil service was huge!

@_starfiend

11 ай бұрын

@@alicemilne1444 Ignorant? Al Murray might be 'only' a comedian, but he's an incredibly clever and well educated comedian. His comment really was just for comedy purposes. You don't honestly believe he thinks that do you?

@robertfarrow5853

11 ай бұрын

The entire Empire was run in London Foreign Office with staff of 48 people. No telephone, radio. Just quill pens.We now have nothing. There are 48,000 staff in the Foreign Office with computers.

@alicemilne1444

11 ай бұрын

@@_starfiend I said he was doing his "ignorant pub landlord thing". I don't for one moment think he is stupid. However, there are people out there who have a completely erroneous idea of how big the administration in India was.

In the UK the Royal Marines is a branch of the Royal Navy so technically there are three services, Army, Navy and Air Force. The Navy is the oldest and is referred to as the Senior Service.

@stuartfaulds1580

11 ай бұрын

There's also the TA aka Territorial Army, who can also be called up to serve in active zones usually in a supporting capacity.

@artemisfowl66

11 ай бұрын

@@stuartfaulds1580 I always count them in with the army. They were used so much in military action over the last 20 years that I think they deserve the full time badge!

@Richard500

11 ай бұрын

@@stuartfaulds1580 The TA, now called the "Army Reserve" and that have and do deploy wherever more soldiers are needed. Many of them went to Afghanistan as an example.

@StephenButlerOne

11 ай бұрын

​@@Richard500that is the whole point of the TA. In the cold war era you got to go to Germany every year for training/saber rattling exercise. My FiL loved it.

@halfbakedproductions7887

10 ай бұрын

@@stuartfaulds1580 The TA no longer exists by that name. You can also join the reserves for any major branches of the forces, for example there is Royal Marines Reserve and RAF Reserve. Mate of mine is ex-RAF, missed being in the forces and wanted another go, but doing something slightly different. He joined the Army Reserves and is attached to the Signals I think. Loves it. There was also a guy on that Royal Navy Sailor School documentary from Channel 4. He'd spent 8 years in the Army and didn't get very far, quit, spent a few years bouncing around on civvie street, then joined the Navy as a regular recruit. Rumour is he's still in the Navy and that show was nearly 10 years ago.

My dad joined the army aged 14 in 1932, he left in 1947. He learnt surveying which he continued until he retired aged 62; joining the army in those days was a way to learn a trade and also reduced the financial burden for the family, he was one of 5 brothers who all served in, and survived WW2.

@Rionnagan

11 ай бұрын

Yeah. My great-grandfather joined WWI as a 14 y.o. on false papers. Same guy used false papers to put his age down to fight in WWII.

In the UK we train our soldiers properly, to react to the sutuation they find themselves in and not to just blindly follow orders.

@101spacemonkey

11 ай бұрын

I think many in countries they have been in would disagree. Examples would include the fact many in NI would like to see them face charges for shooting people in the back. Nevermind that there is evidence they took trophies from kills, with one family being told at autopsy that their loved ones teeth were removed after death and were apparently kept as a trophy

@beveragebrit

11 ай бұрын

Situation

@G_Fresh_UK

11 ай бұрын

@@beveragebrit Grammar police strike again....

@beveragebrit

11 ай бұрын

@@G_Fresh_UK you're welcome

@DrCookie6996p

11 ай бұрын

​@@101spacemonkey there are twisted c#nts in every military, the prospect of killing will always attract them... look at the Russian army in Ukraine right now(even the non prisoners troops) they have committed far far worse crimes then the British military did in Ireland or India for that matter. Let's also not forget what crimes the other side (IRA) committed during the troubles eg the pub and supermarket bombings. I genuinely believe the British military stacks up fairly well then it comes to behaviour on duty. Take Iraq for example where the majority of the troops on the ground took the hearts and minds philosophy seriously and engaged with locals as equals handing out food sweets and smiles (during the initial phase atleast) apposed to the Americans primary maintaining distance with rifles orders and warning shots. For the record I deeply disagree with the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

There is the legendary story of two military camps next to one another. the American post a sign outside their camp , ' Second to none', The British , just put up the sign reading , NONE

@bertiescunsbutch9323

13 күн бұрын

Classic British humour.😊

NOTHING stops us Brits from having a brew!!!!

@vtbn53

11 ай бұрын

Yeah but somehow I don't think Tyler realised it was tea he was talking about LOL.

@caolkyle

10 ай бұрын

I love how we’re one of the few militaries that have ‘water boiling vessels’ (clearly not kettles lol) in our armoured vehicles and even logistics trucks. Makes it handy for training to heat up ration packs, since we don’t get instant heaters like the US MREs

@MrIrondog55

9 ай бұрын

"I'm parched, get the kettle on lad. Moo n two - techie standard!"

The most important piece of kit on a Challenger tank is the the bv (boiler vessel). You got to pause fighting mid battle to have your cup of tea. Everything else can wait.

@daledrakewriter4912

10 ай бұрын

I can confirm this statement lol

@starblaiz1986

10 ай бұрын

Its one of the reasons it's taken so long to train the Ukrainians - it's hard teaching them proper brewing technique 😅❤

@caolkyle

10 ай бұрын

We even have on our logistic trucks (Man SVs)

@alastairwallace6153

9 ай бұрын

Those BVs used to have those on or in most vehicles, was treated as the most important kit on it. Used to operate bv206, landy and IMMLC, all had the vital port for plugin in the brewsky machine - if it did not work it was no good and would strip it down for parts for the ones that did work.

In the UK, we're raised with a tough mindset, adapting to life's challenges with a stiff upper lip. Adverse events impact us as they do anyone else, but our approach sets us apart. Unfortunately, the issue lies in the fact that others often fail to grasp the struggles individuals face until it's too far along, and a lot of the time at that point, it's already too late.

Btw "a brew up" refers to stopping in the middle of a fight to make and drink a cup of tea 🙂

@sharks3010

11 ай бұрын

There's a famous story of an SAS raid to rescue a group of soldiers that where being held hostage in Africa. During the raid the rebels were alerted and a firefight ensued. Half way through the engagement, the SAS troopers (while dealing with a large number of rebels that were up to their eyeballs on homemade rum and cocaine) called for 'brew up'. One trooper was reportedly laying down suppressive fire, with a cup of tea in one hand and his GPMG in the other. Nothing comes in the way of your brew! 🇬🇧🤣 Great video mate, love hearing these opinions from the other side of the pond 👍🏻🇺🇸 Just as a side note. I guarantee that regardless of the situation a cup of tea can make all the difference. Good times or bad, all you need to do is get the kettle on. I'm drinking a 'builders brew' of 'Yorkshire Gold' as I write this. Today's problems just became much more manageable.☕

@andrewcoates6641

10 ай бұрын

This is why all British armoured vehicles have a built in system that is used for boiling water to make into tea and coffee, it is also capable of producing enough boiling water to heat their rations with. In fact the crews of these vehicles are trained to live inside their vehicles for days at a time and carry out all their necessary functions while sealed up against any exposure to radiation or chemical or biological agents.

Tyler - you probably aren't aware yet that Britain doesn't have a culture of "therapy" like the US. We simply don't have a therapist we run to every time we feel a little stressed. It's just not a thing here.

@evelynwilson1566

11 ай бұрын

PTSD is a mental illness though -much more serious than being 'a little stressed' .

@bunnypolaris9800

11 ай бұрын

it's not a thing cause of the months to years wait times, plus if you phone up cahms if you're depressed or wanting to commit they just tell you to take a bath and have a cup of tea so there's no point in trying for therapy.

@robertfarrow5853

11 ай бұрын

We put the kettle on, have tea. Stiff upper lip, roll up sleeves, get stuck in. That's the ticket!

@tracyholliday2200

11 ай бұрын

A few years ago I watched a factual show from the US of a woman going to therapy because she had to do housework!!

William Robertson was the first British soldier to rise from rank of private to field marshal.

@jamesbeeching6138

11 ай бұрын

And 'Bobs' never lost his cockney accent!

In regards to the holiday thing: Most full-time jobs in the UK give 28 days holiday as standard, with some employers giving more holiday entitlement in line with your working hours. Some companies also offer the ability to sell your holidays for extra salary, or purchase more holidays with your salary. The UK is quite generous with time off. You can also get all that on top of maternity/paternity leave etc (Although paternity is only like 2 weeks, maternity is a few months).

@aidancolyer7924

10 ай бұрын

Maternity is up to a year although commonly taken as 9 months as payments get reduced. Paternity is two weeks at a fifth of your salary. Technically you can combine the two and share the leave but in practice it is almost impossible. It needs quite a bit of tidying up and most of the fundamentals are in place. Kinda like universal credit. Good on paper but only just now starting to work ish and still has issues.

What I've been told by people I know who serve or have served in the military is, If you want carpet bombing and mass invasion you send Americans, if you want hand to hand fighting and guerrilla type warfare you send the British

Hi pal, in 1971 at the ripe old age of 15yrs and 9 months old I joinded the British Army as a junior soldier . Did not go to my regiment until 1973 which was based in Dortmund West Germany. I left the Army at the age of 21yrs old, best few years of my young life. By the way I served with 36 Heavy Air Defence Regiment Royal Artillery.

1/3 of Americans defence budget is to pay for pensions and veterans services. But people don’t usually associate pensions a veteran service with the annual military budget 😉

@kirstipeters1314

11 ай бұрын

When I lived in Florida I often saw homeless, injured veterans at the side of roads... do all veteran's get a pension?

13:30 The ranks are wrong there. A 2nd Lieutenant in the British Army is a lower rank than a Lieutenant. Also, this is comparing officer salaries, rather than non-commissioned officers (sergeants/sergeant majors) and other ranks.

One of the perks is the extensive free travel and discounted military families only hotels Americans get. There's an American-only vacation spot in a dormant volcano near Naples, Italy. It has a football field, Olympic sized pool, paintball facilities, a 9-hole golf course....

I watch videos and see US Army personnel say oh I haven’t seen my Mom in 2 years. I’ve never heard of UK servicemen not being to be able to get home on a regular basis. Years ago a soldier I was at school with was flown home from the Falklands to be with his Dad who was sick.

@CallumCBG

10 ай бұрын

mate, thats probably on the us guys being stationed too far away from home or simply not going to visit their mother, in iraq and afghanistan, us personel were deployed on tours, that in short meant you went out for a while and came back home for a bit, british army did the same as far as im aware so idk what videos you saw or what your trying to get at really but yk

Heard a story once about the Challenger 2 MBT. A foreign employee of a tech firm was trying to integrate upgrades. When looking at wiring diagrams he questioned the existence of a line marked BV. He was told to leave that alone, that's the boiling vessel and is critical for the tank operation. Couldn't say if it's true or not.

@tiggalong227

11 ай бұрын

Yes British tanks have a kettle (brew vessel) it allows the crew to heat water without having to leave the tank

@peterbrown1012

11 ай бұрын

​@@tiggalong227it was also used to heat canned food up.

@wessexdruid7598

11 ай бұрын

Critical? Yes - it's true.

@stewedfishproductions7959

11 ай бұрын

@@wessexdruid7598 And ESSENTIAL !

You should look up the Battle of Bamber Bridge in England if you want a comparison of differences between the Americans and British army.

My brother joined junior leaders at 16, then onto his regiment a year later. Served 35 years.

@vtbn53

11 ай бұрын

Thank him for me

@ABC1701A

11 ай бұрын

Years ago - 1992 - the son of a local merchant finally joined the army [his parents were divorced and neither were thrilled but he had always wanted to join, took him 4 years to talk them into allowing him] at 16. He had looked into all his options [early careers guidance talks at a guess] and had decided that the army would pay him to study what he wanted to study, he would have no problems having steady employment for 35 or more years and by then he should have managed to save enough for when he left. He entered - huge celebrations when he was accepted and again when he passed out of training - because he had always had a passion for cooking but had also discovered that in civvy street the costs of college [as in living away from home etc] would all have to be covered plus there was no guarantee of a job when he finally graduated. The army would train him, pay him, employ him as a cook/chef for 35 or more years and he would be able to gain extra training to enable him to leave with the knowledge to start his own business and basically was the best option for anyone who was serious about learning a proper trade. I moved country soon after so lost contact with his father but the last I heard he was loving it and reckoned he would have preferred joining at 13 rather than having to go to secondary school for 3 years. They might get more applicants if they advertised the trade training aspect, he asked around and took advice but how many spend a lot of money on getting qualified in something only to end up in debt and with no decent job at the end of it [at the time it applied to a lot of kids that age but don't know if it still does].

First, love all your Vids! There brilliant!

Loving the content

A while ago the British and American army took part in drills on American soil,the British army won in every drill.

@ASUTASTUD

11 ай бұрын

Not to mention that the royal marines went up against the American marines and the Americans surrendered to royal marines.

@CallumCBG

10 ай бұрын

@@ASUTASTUD in the defence of the marine corp, they are very different to the royal marines who are commandos so are much better trained and perform very different tasks, also the royal marines have seen more combat lately that the marine corp i think, the outcome may have been different if they were more proportional to the sizes

@CallumCBG

10 ай бұрын

we also kinda got invited by the us to help test their air defences, B52s took the role of low flying soviet bombers, while i think 8 Avro Vulcans performed the role of high altitude soviet bombers, the vulcans flew in groups of 4, 3 performed electronic warfare to hide themeself, while the other dropped the simulated nuke. We ended doing a simulated nuclear bomb drop on new york, they invited us for a 2nd try and we did it again, they made the same mistake twice and their fighters couldnt reach the Avro Vulcans. Did i mention that the Vulcans weren't flying at their highest alitude either lmao?

But the USA puts 16 year-olds behind the wheel of a car, which is a weapon (when driven by a 16 year old). Why are you surprised that the UK is prepared to train them in soldiering from 16? They cannot go into combat until they are older, so they get at least 2 years of training. That's why boot camp can be up to 40 weeks long. Not talking about one's problems (outside of immediate family) is a very British thing, and extends to the military. Brits take conflict or adversity with more calmness and stoicism - and sometimes even humour - than most other nationalities, it seems.

My father lied about his age and was 13 when he joined the Army (he was 6ft and it was back in the 1930s), on his 14th birthday he was sailing up the Yangtze River in China.

The PTSD thing - I think it's the British 'stiff upper lip' we just don't admit to having ptsd

@stewedfishproductions7959

11 ай бұрын

I remember in the 60's, 70's & 80's people in the UK would often comment & despise the American 'sue somebody for anything' culture... Which was unheard of in Britain - why would you sue somebody else for your OWN negligence? i.e. tripping on a loose pavement slab - (Especially after having just gone through WW2, the trenches, bombings, rationing etc!). So the STIFF UPPER LIP was paramount, but NOW that is all forgotten with adverts for 'NO WIN - NO FEE' and sue somebody for quick money - SO SAD! ☹☹☹

Someone who knows more about this than I do, please correct me if I am wrong. If you join the British army as a private, you can only go as far as Warrant Officer Class 1 (WO1) which despite the name, is NOT an army officer and as such, they do not get a salute. Comissioned officers attend Sandhurst military academy to become army officers. They do not start out as a private. They usually start their career as an officer. Not just anyone can become an officer. They are usually (but not always) from well off families and/or have a university education. Sometimes being an army officer is a family tradition. If the army were a private company, the officers would be the senior management. Sergeants and corporals are the line managers. Privates are the shop floor workers. The British army has always been severely underfunded. They, unlike the U.S army have a recruitment problem. Pay is not great, especially when you consider they are effectively on duty 24 hours a day. They have to put up with being screamed and bellowed at and verbally abused. They are deployed to do all the crap jobs that nobody wants to do. Having said all of that. This is just my opinion. I worked alongside the army at Woolwich as a civilian for 3 1/2 years I I can tell you that soldiers of the British army are some of the very best people I have ever met. They are truly brilliant people.

The one thing that gets me is the difference between saying Lieutenant. The US say Loo-tenant and the UK say Left-tentant.

@Gambole

11 ай бұрын

I was going to comment that no one in the British army becomes a loo-tenant 😂

My brother joined up straight out of school at 16, by his 18th birthday he was fighting in the 1st Gulf war.

I joined the Army as Junior Soldier at 15 in 1961 and then at 17 1/2 , in late 1963 I "passed out" and transferred to "the Colours". As junior soldiers, we pretty much had the same training as Regular soldiers plus education in normal academic subjects as well as specific trade training in all manner of things both useful to the army and civilian situations. This usually led to former Junior Leaders getting onto the promotion road faster. We were never sent to war zones or used in any related manner. I have often thought that the rule would go out of the window if the country got invaded though! Training is somewhat different now, the entry age has been raised for one thing.

21:48 This reminded me of a qoute I read from an indian chieftain named Gookiah describing the English after a battle that I thought might be interesting to share. He said: "These English are a strange people, and their General a wonderful man. They came here in the morning, looked at the Pettah walls, walked over it, killed all the garrison, and returned to breakfast! What can withstand them?" Stopping for tea in a battle is something I could genuinely see one of us doing.

@robertfarrow5853

11 ай бұрын

Asterix the Gaul in Britain. Julius Caesar conquest of Gt.Britain. " He saw they stopped at 5 pm for Tea. Consequently the Romans attacked after 5 pm and at the Weekend." Of course Asterix is written by the French, who can't understand Mint Sauce with Lamb.

@wessexdruid7598

11 ай бұрын

22 SAS famously held a Sgts & WO's Mess meeting deep behind Iraqi lines in 1991. There is a painting of it, in the Wadi Tubal, by war artist David Rowlands. Cavalry regiments have been known to hold silver service mess dinners in the field - it's called 'style'.

We also have cadet training units, for the ATC (Air Training Cadets) and also the Army Cadets, and Navy Cadets

@frogmaster83

11 ай бұрын

I was an instructor for the MTC, Marine Training Corps in the UK. 👍

The school leaving age in England is 16 years not 15 as stated. (except you can officially leave in June if you turn 16 before the end of the summerbreak ~end of Aug) . so 15years 9months to 16yrs 6months. Depending on Birth date. Other parts of the UK are vary very slightly. Until you are 18 you MUST continue with effectively 20 hours a week education, apprenticeship, or vocational training, such as that in the army.

Lets just put a few things straight about the UK Army. Joining, Yes you can join straight from schools at 16, with parents permission, but are classed as junior soldiers or apprentices for the technical trades*. The service for these people doesn't start until they are 18 and it is illegal for them to serve outside the UK. * The entrance axam for the technical trades is an IQ test, and for a communications technician you have to be above average IQ this is ~116 or higher. Fitness, That 10½ mins is in Army boots. And the rest of the test includes a lot more exersizes, such as sit-ups, and they also check your recovery rate. Basic training. The UK basic training includes a driving course (UK diving age is 18) and specialist training into your job, such as training to be an Artillery gunner in an AS90, or a tank driver. Pay UK Army pay is supposedly equated to equivalent civilian jobs + 10% to make up for the lack of overtime. Officers and other ranks pay is on two different scales, Officers is defined as annual salary, other ranks is per 7 day week. This hides ther fact that a Sgt technical specialist gets as much as a Captain. Holidays. Holidays are about the same the UK 42 days is 6 seven day weeks, the US Air Force is 6 five working day weeks. (I worked alongside US Air Force for many years) Also if a UK soldier fails to get in their full 42 days it is just lost, The US AF can get re-embersed for days not taken. Pensions. UK pensions are a lot lower. Final Pensionable Pay is the same for all people of the same rank and equates to the lowest paid for that rank in the whole Army. It is not based on your final salary. To overcome this in aprts of the UK Army people are promoted one rank for the minimum period to get that ranks pension. If you retire earlier than 35 years, and most other ranks do, at 22 years served (40 years old if you started at 18) you get 18/35 of 50%. PTSD. The UK rotates units out of dangerous war zones more frequently, usually a maximum of 6 months, than the US Army, I believe one US Army unit did a 14 month tour in Iraq, with only one leave period. Ex Royal Signals and NATO instructor.

In 1965 at the age of 15 I signed up for 9 years in the British Army Junior Leaders, where you finish your 'High School' education and also train to be a Non Commisioned Officer, until you become 17 and a half.

@jamesbeeching6138

11 ай бұрын

17 1/2 as an officer?? That's proper Rupert territory!!

@robertfarrow5853

11 ай бұрын

15 and a half. My mother had to sign too. RAF engineering apprentice. I came out a Jet Engine Technician Corporal at 30;yrs old.. With qualifications no civil airline could accept, fighter jets don't haul passengers or cargo. No house, chucked out of married quarters, my family went into derelict one coal open fire , no bathroom,coal hole toilet. 1982! Council house for 6 months. No house ,no job,no job ,no house. I worked a night time security guard ,bought a house. Got a decent job. Don't join up. This country isn't worth fighting for.

@elemar5

11 ай бұрын

@@jamesbeeching6138 An NCO is a rank below 2nd Lieutenant. Non Commissioned Officer. Eg, corporal, sergeant etc.

So I’m in the Royal Navy and it stated there’s no “deployment pay”. That’s incorrect. We get LSA (separation allowance) of minimum £7.50 a day, and it goes up in brackets. For instance I’ve spent 600 days away and I get about £15 a day extra which works out to £450 a month extra! This is the same for the Royal Marines, Army and RAF

I once taught an airforce training sergeant. He was asked by visiting American trainers ‘what do you do with your illiterate airmen?’. He replied ‘In the RAF we don’t admit people who are illiterate’; the prospect of planes in the hands of people who can’t read is terrifying.

I suspect that with the PTSD it's that our mental health services are very stretched in the UK and we don't really have that culture of therapy or diagnosing things like autism or ADHD - or at least we didn't until fairly recently. .We also do still have a bit of the 'stiff upper lip' mentality - many of us today had grandparents or great grandparents who lived through and served in two World Wars, maybe our Dads and Granddads went down mines or out in fishing boats, so there is still something of a macho culture. I think it's very hard for former soldiers. Then to add to that, they can be very institutionalised, as from a young age the army has provided them with the essentials, so they find it hard to cope in civilian life. I've got a great deal of respect for anyone in the services, and I think the fact that they provide a fresh start and a great education is fantastic, but it's sad that it's often the only viable route out of a sink housing scheme. As for 16 being too young? I don't know about that, I think the US is pushing back the age of adulthood further and further, they'll be calling 40 year olds 'kids' soon, and we're following that trend.

@timtreefrog9646

11 ай бұрын

The US health services are stretched too. People wait in the ER (blocking a bed) for days just to get a bed in an inpatient psych ward for example. And those poor people PAY 5-10 times more for this service 😢

@fibrown444

11 ай бұрын

I work with military veterans here in the UK, I'm a therapeutic horticulturist. One of my recent cohort had PTSD, and was struggling big time despite being a civilian for many years. It is very difficult, but there are charities like ICARUS that specialise in former military mental health, and veterans like that there are people that can understand what they have experienced far more than a civilian therapist. However, I have found they will open up on somethings to me when having one-to-ones.

@harry9392

11 ай бұрын

It took me 10 years to get help Some of my freinds took their own lives

It's pretty funny that they spend that much and still lose in a battlefield training exercise not that long ago. The Royal Navy Commandos alongside troops from allied countries held a five-day battlefield simulation in which they were victorious over their American counterparts.

Not that Tyler ever read these comments. The British Army has no "Royal" , due to the to a little tussle called the English Civil War. The Army sided against the king. So no Royal for YOU!!!!!

my great grandad joined the grenadiers as boy soldier in 1892 after south africa he was promoted to colour sergeant ww1 in the north staffs he was promoted to captain quartermaster. won the military cross @ vimy ridge left after 34 years service.

@Richard500

11 ай бұрын

My great-grandfather also served in Egypt and South Africa or Sudan or whatever it was back then. He did 25 years and was also a Sgt. (In the Berkshire Regiment) his son joined the Hampshire Regiment on the first day of enlistment in 1914 and also went on to do 22 years and leave as a Sgt.

The Monarch is the Commander in Chief of the Army, Navy and Air Force - hence the 'Royal' part. Check out "What Powers Does the Queen of England Actually Have" by 'Today I Found Out' (the same now applies to the King).

If you join at 16 you do the 40 wk basic training, if you join older than that you do 20 wks. This is because, even though you can join at 16, you cannot join your regiment and be deployed until you are 17. Also it used to be that if you joined at 16 you had to sign up for a minimum of 20 years although you can buy yourself out before that point or break enough rules and get court martialed to get out.

Don't forget we can leave school at 16 in UK.. If you're able to go and work, you have the choice to join the army. There are lots of boys and girls who join cadets and army groups younger and know what they want to do before the age of 16.

British teenagers can't leave school until 16, not 15. And now you need to go to some sort of education or training (such as an apprenticeship) until at least 18.

@chriscollins550

11 ай бұрын

That's why I'm glad I finished school when I did. But I have read they can't enforce it and make you do more education, it's not like they can put you in prison or take you to civil court for not doing. I left school in 1995 at 15 and got a job two week's later and haven't stopped since.

@arwelp

11 ай бұрын

@@chriscollins550 Would you have turned 16 in the summer? Unless your birthday is between the end of the exams and the start of the next school year, I can’t see how they would otherwise have let you leave. The school leaving age was raised to 16 in the early 1970s when I was in school - I could have left at 15 after my last O Level exam in June, as my birthday’s 1st September, but I stayed, did A Levels when I was 17, and got my BSc when I was 20.

@dizzydiana73

11 ай бұрын

wrong, it depends largely on when your birthday is. You do not need to wait until ur 16th birthday to be able to leave in many instances eg if your birthday is during or shortly after the summer holidays you dont need to go back to school for a day or so. There is also options if you turn 16 in your 5th year of high school to instead opt to go to college instead of 5th year high school. Plus remember there are different rules depending on where you live eg Scotland which has an entirely different education system than England and Wales including even different qualifications. The situation is more complex than presented as for some pupils eg from farming backgrounds can even leave school at 14. The only thing that is guaranteed is that you are entitled to free education until the age of 18.Just also to remind you that the reason you can leave at 16 is sort of to do with how you are no longer deemed a child in the governments eye's - unless in further education your parents would not be entitled to child benefit, if in care your carers no longer receive subsidies for your upkeep which can lead to many 16 year olds being booted out of the care facility, you can claim Universal Credit if not in further Education, there are young person's apprenticships available for 16-18 yr olds, you can legally have sex etc.

@chriscollins550

11 ай бұрын

@arwelp no I didn't turn 16 in the summer but afterwards. I didn't do any A levels. I walk out before and never went back. Didn't hold me back at anytime in my life. There just holding young adults back now because there's not enough job's and that's down to the fact that the government keeps moving retirement age so there's less people returning and less job's for younger people.

@nicolad8822

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@chriscollins550There are plenty of job vacancies. And a significant skill shortage. After Covid a huge number of older workers chose not to go back to work. It’s a huge problem.

sorry but theres no comparison British Army are trained better and have killed less with friendly fire than the US - With regard to the Marines i feel the same ,However the Navy seals on the other hand are highly trained and have my utmost respect

The British Army is dropping in size to about 73000 personnel. as mentioned on a news report recently. Also the Royal Marines are part of the Royal Navy. as per the RNs website.

@jamesbeeching6138

11 ай бұрын

Shocking how badly the British military is being ravaged....We certainly DONT get much bang for our buck... 😞

@elemar5

11 ай бұрын

@@jamesbeeching6138 Maybe they should use pounds instead.

You don't get to lieutenant if you start as a private. That's the officer path. The NCO path is private -> lance-corporal -> corporal -> sergeant -> staff sergeant.

@jackaubrey8614

11 ай бұрын

You can start as a private and then be "sponsored" by your unit to apply for Sandhurst and officer training if they consider you have the potential (usually after you've been promoted to Lance-Corporal/Corporal) It doesn't happen often but it does happen...

@Mark-Haddow

11 ай бұрын

Warrant Officer II & WO1. Some claim to work for a living.

@peterbrown1012

11 ай бұрын

You can recieve a promotion within your regiment from WO1 to captain by-passing 2nd lieutenant and lieutenant.

@AndrewHalliwell

11 ай бұрын

@@peterbrown1012 I should bloody well hope so. Any sergeant major’s more qualified than a captain, but an RSM? It should be at least Major! Bet not many take that demotion. They already had to be commissioned to take WO.

@nicolad8822

11 ай бұрын

Not as rigid as that anymore.

If you're interested in British military culture, try to find a British comedy programme called "Bluestone 42", about a team doing bomb disposal in Afghanistan.

@cubeaceuk9034

11 ай бұрын

Agree. One of the best recent comedy programs from the BBC and shows the type of humour we would have in such situations. How close it is to real life though I have no idea.

@Mr24687292

11 ай бұрын

Having served in 11 EOD Regt I can tell you that "Bluestone 42", is surprisingly accurate at explaining the culture within the bomb teams. At one point you couldn't open a door without fear of it blowing up in your face, because someone thought that it would be a "jolly good wheeze" to rig it up with a sound unit.

@cubeaceuk9034

11 ай бұрын

@@Mr24687292 Thanks for the verification. I have seen similar behaviour in other sections of the armed forces.

@MrIrondog55

9 ай бұрын

All I'm gonna say here is; "When I was in Fallujah...". Comedy gold. Also; " Too soon?!", "farking yes!". Bless Mac n Rocket!

This film is old you can only leave school at 16 in uk if you are going to college or do an apprenticeship if not you have to stay at school until your 18 then you either go to university or go to work My grandson went young soldiers college at 16 ( he had got his A levels at 14 so he had the qualifications to go to university) after touring Afghanistan driving tanks at 25 he commissioned from The Royal Military Academy Sandhurst 3 years later he is now a Captain so proud of him

The 20-40 weeks is trade training where you can go in your preferred regiment or corps I think it’s different for infantry regiments but even infantryman can do additional training on god knows what but throughout the armed forces you can do training courses to work your way up the rank ladder it’s only what my uncle told me he was REME (Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers) in the 70s it could be completely different now

UK we have Sea & Army Cadets starting age 12. So, they can have preliminary training as a hobby.

Check out OBI Wan Nairobi,he joined the army at 16 and exemplifies the true meaning of the word Hero.

Right I did national service for a year @ 17 after school ended I did army cadets since 13. My dad is ex military & my cadet leader. He taught us loads of life skills. Paided for my university.👍👍🇬🇧

@lindaford5605

11 ай бұрын

Served me well as after that and degree traveled the world. Loved America, Thailand & Europe. Kids at 30 but lived and enjoyed it.

@pongonabus

11 ай бұрын

National Service not been thing in uk since ww2 last of the people who had to do National Service left army in the early 60s

I joined at 15 years old, Infantry Junior Leaders Battalion….fantastic!

I can't say about now, but when I joined in 2007 basic training in the British army was 14 weeks, then you went onto trade training which depends on what you do to how long it takes

The retirement parts are for officers as. Normal soldiers retire at the 22 year point but you can go for extensions every year, after my discharge I was offered one but turned it down. A year later I regretted it

13:43 weirdly says 2nd alt gets paid more but as an officer you’ll first be 2nd Lt and then move to just Lt

when on deployment British soldiers get extra pay at a daily rate called LSA (Longer Seperation Allowance) this rate depends on how many nights you have spent 'out of your bed' during your career, this extra pay is also given when on training exercises. There is also extra pay given depending on where the soldier is deployed in the world, this is called LOA (Local Overseas Allowance) and is also given as a daily rate but is different depending on location.

The vid made a cockup. In the British Army. Officer ranks go from 2nd Lt as the lowest commissioned rank, to Lt as the rank above. Captain is after Lt.

You have to allow, when considering the expenditure of the two nations for, obviously, the size difference of the nations, but also that a lot of organisations that come under the umbrella of 'military' in the US are separate entities in the UK. One example would be the coastguard, but it's not limited to that. The coastguard here isn't a military or law enforcement entity but rather more of a rescue service. The navy covers law enforcement in the water. It's also important to note that while I don't agree with the UK army recruiting 16 year olds, they're not permitted to be deployed until they're 18 so they essentially spend two years training for what's ahead.

PTSD rates, it is likely that our troops are better prepared, also British troops are trained to handle many different situations and not just shoot their way out of a problem. Takes longer to train, but makes for a much more skilled, much more resilient individual. We no longer have large armies of expendable troops or as ‘Blackadder’ would put it ‘Cannon Fodder’. Also many of our war and conflict films(movies) are quite realistic, they are not sugar coated, we do not always win. That is an accepted part of our history and our regimental history. Dunkirk, Charge of the Light Brigade, Isandlwana were all major defeats but individual heroism is remembered and honoured. Where I think American culture struggles to acknowledge that maybe sometimes they will lose, so Americans cant cope when confronted with failure.

Just FYI, at 16 you can enlist and go to an Army Foundation College. However, you can’t go and fight in wars until you’re 18. It’s just an easy route into the job

Don’t stop spending on your military. If there’s another war, we’ll need you (again) cheers

Pensionable pay might not include certain variable allowances, overtime etc. The pensions in payment increase annually too.

You can join at 16 but you go though a slower training process, we used to call it "kiddy college" but you can't serve in any line of danger until 18.

@Mark-Haddow

11 ай бұрын

Fighting talk. Royal Signals Collage Harrogate. Technically I'm one of the youngest living people to serve in the military during war. I enlisted in the summer of 1990.

@russbillington6291

11 ай бұрын

I don't no what the age is now for serving in theater, but I was 19 during Granby and there was a young lad called Conrad Cole whose wagon was hit by a US A10 in a blue on blue, he was only 17...to serve in N.I you had to be 18 from memory.

In Britain we are very proud of our armed forces but they are dangerously underfunded.

When someone joins at sixteen they go to school as junior soldiers they then get posted to the regiment the will serve in but are not allowed to serve on the front line untill 18

You have a lot more land to protect. United States is about 40 times bigger than United Kingdom.

@Mark-Haddow

11 ай бұрын

Eh, Canada is bigger than the US. Guess who the constitutional head of state is; and what they legally lead.

You might enjoy a video by Vice on KZread. It is called Kids with Guns and looks at the British joint cadet force, a Ministry of Defence sponsored youth organisation for kids aged 12 to 17. Together with the various cadet organisations (Sea Cadets, Air Training Corps, etc) these youth groups have about 120,000 members, but few end up serving as full time military after 18.

@veronicawilliams7427

11 ай бұрын

My late elder son attended the ATC (Air Training Cadets during his Teanage years, taught him a lot of things including flying once he got old enough for that, he flew in Chipmunk planes

Common pension plans used to be 1/80th of final year salary for each year worked to a maximum of 50%. Where "pensionable pay" in the final year excludes certain things like special allowances, bonuses and some overtime. Most "Final Salary Pension Plans" have now been replaced by "Defined Contribution Pension" plans, where you build up a pension fund and buy an annuity when you retire. The British Army is about the the last government organisation to still run a Final Salary Pension Scheme.

My 2 son's both joined the Army at 16,my eldest joined 3rd Battalion the Parachute Regiment and my youngest 1st Battalion Coldsream Guards.

@angelabushby1891

11 ай бұрын

@user-hi9vz4gs3g don't have Telagram

My son did 14 weeks basic training then went on to phase 2 for @16 weeks in the British army

That’s wrong you get deployment bonus in the British army , the reason that it’s low hourly pay is because a soldier gets payed from 00:00 to 23:59 “one minute to shit”

I joined the British army (Guards) at 16 years of age back in 1972, the majority of guys who joined with me were 15 years old . Its because the minimum school leaving age was 15 back then, now the school leaving age is 16 so thats the minimum age you can join the army. But you must have your parents consent. Some people may say its far to young usually by people who dont know what they are talking about. In my intake there were some kids from broken homes, orphans ect. It gave young lads alot of discipline & a sense of pride. They made damned outstanding soldiers when they eventually got through the training process. It was not an easy life at all infact it was bloody hard, we had to grow up very quickly ! By the time we came of age ready to join our battalions, regiments we were all *very well trained & very disciplined. I would go as far to say boy soldiers were the back bone of the british army. The majority of my regiment were ex boy soldiers (junior soldiers). I believe this system should be adopted by the US army they would benefit from this system so much.

13:42, he's got the army ranks backwards. 2nd lieutentant is the lower rank, lieutenant the higher rank.

In the British Military it is a rare event if an Enlisted Person gets a Field Commission to 2nd Lieutenant, if someone joined as a Private as a standard rule the highest rank they could ever make would be Warrant Officer, and then they have to be good at their job. But if an Enlisted soldier gets an officer promotion, then they have done something heroic, but this is a rare event.

Im going to harrogate which is the army 16 boot camp and the time u spend there is 52 weeks for infantry and 36 weeks for a specialist role such as royal engineers

Hi I’m trying to find this family site. Can’t see it anywhere . Does anyone know what it is please ? Xx enjoyed this reaction & want to add the family to my library . Would appreciate it very much x

The entry age into the British military has always been that of the school-leaving age. In the 50s and 60s, it was 15, and when the school leaving age was put up to 16 in the 70s entry into the military adjusted accordingly. When I joined in 1966 into man's service at 18 you signed on for 22yrs with an option of leaving at 3,6, or 9yrs, I took the 9 as you got 9pounds a week as a recruit albeit you got 6pounds in your hand after stoppages. After 22yrs you got a pension based on the rank you retired at. At that time Boy's service did not count towards a pension, this was changed in the 70s with all-time served being pensionable. The 35 yrs mentioned in the video were that of officers as of right and those senior NCOs lucky enough to get on what was known as the long service list.

In more recent times Brits would only be leaving school at 15 if they had a late summer birthday, their cohort would be mostly 16. These days they are expected to be in school or vocational training until 18.

You dont get hazard pay in british army but you do get slightly more pay ,i served in the army in the first gulf war and we got the money that we normally paid for food and accomodation back and were also given "water money" im assuming to buy bottled water even though it was provided

How much of the military budget is spent on civilian Paychex?

Joined up in 79 as a just about 16 year old year old, no work at 18 on the streets ofnorthen ireland

my stepson joined the TA territorial army in addition to his regular job in the small print if IT kicks off you are the first to go

In the UK 5% of your wage is taken out each mths and goes into you pension pot the government matches that amount each mths, so that when you reach retirement age you have a pot of money already saved. You can pay more than the 5% and you can set up private pensions. So what he was saying is that you can get your pension pay out after 35 years in the army or when you reach pension age

Both countries spend a lot on army but nothing on homeless.

@Mark-Haddow

11 ай бұрын

What do you spend on the homeless?

They used to get a Deployment bonus as a lump sum but i'm not sure if this is still happening

I live in Iceland and we don't have a military, obviously we are an island so we don't have any boarders with other country's , but i have always felt really safe, in fact Iceland has been the safest country in the word for 14 years in a row.

I tried to join the Australian army when I was 17, but gotta knocked back because I hadn't finished high school, not tall enough had to be 6 feet and weight wasn't heavy enough. That was in 1973.

I joined the British Army at 21 i did 12 years and as i hit 60 this year i will start to get my pension..Usually when people join at 16 straight from school generally spend 2 years at a college learning their chosen trade so will only join a front line unit and be able to deploy when they are 18..,what he doesn't mention on the 1 1/2 mile run is you do a 1 1/2 mile run out to the start... ..though it is piss easy ...You do get paid extra for deployments in the British Army..Coloneol is roughly 6 promotions...Some of the best soldiers you will find are generally people who did not do well at school for whatever reason..A lot of the special forces had a hard up bringing....All armoured vehicles in the UK ,have an item called a BV Boiling vessel .it is basically a kettle ,you can cook your boil in the bag meals in them and make a brew .I think they have been standard since ww2

Brit here (Prefer Scottish lol). Re: 9:10 you can join what’s called the British Army foundation college Harrogate at 16, this is more so a military school where the focus is school like Maths/English but you’ll also do military field training like what you’d do if you joined the army at 17+. There was a good series that documented this and wasn’t glammed up for tv called ‘Raw Recruits’, maybe can find a way to watch it online. Showed things like real life chemical training, bayonet training etc

The age for school leavers was raised to 18, prior to that it was 16...

The law regarding leaving school in the UK has changed and is now 18 not 16 leaving education. However you can choose an apprenticeship and go down that route at 16

16 year old join on a 6 year contact and cannot serve in active combat till 18. The 16 year olds are usually educated for roles within the army a sort of fast track carrer (not always depends on the individual). 18 year olds sign for 4 years this is because of the investment in 16 year old. Recently the law changed that you must be in full time education till your 18 (or in a apprenticeship from 16)