Britain sent puritans to America and convicts to Australia. I've always thought, as an Australian, that we got the better deal.

@suzanneyoung6273

Ай бұрын

Britain sent convicts to Virginia, USA. Strange how Americans don’t speak about them, like Aussies do.

@gswombat

Ай бұрын

The British also sent convicts to America

@twoflyinghats

Ай бұрын

British convicts (including enemies of war) were sent to several American colonies (from about 1615 to 1775 and the war.)

@kimenslow963

Ай бұрын

We sure did mate 👍

@jenniferharrison8915

Ай бұрын

Irish and Scottish peasant farmers were sent to America as indentured servants for 7 years too, as their land had been stolen and families displaced! Americans - as well as some French and Africans - mostly privateers (pirates) were sent to Australia from England as convicts too!

Im a 74 year old 5th generation descendant of black African and Caribbean slaves...My 4th great grandfather was a black African slave, born in the Caribbean, who married my 4th great grandmother, who was the daughter of my 5th gr grandfather, a black slave of Cpt.John Randall, who came from Stonnington Connecticut USA....They arrived at Botany Bay with the first fleet in 1788, convicts sentenced to 7 years, a piece, one for stealing clothes, the other for stealing a watch....I have a number of convicts on my maternal side who came here with the First Fleet, but my 4th and 5th gr grandfathers are the most well known, and were among a number of Black slaves who travelled on the First Fleet....My 5th great grandfather became the groundsman and game hunter for Captain Arthur Phillip, the Governor of N.S.W. at the time...and my 4th became a police officer, who was given 50 acres of land, plus sheep, cattle and other animals at Parramatta, where he is now buried at St.Johns Church...The Randall/Martin family living descendants to this time, amount to around 25,000 strong.....

@suekennedy1595

Ай бұрын

That is so interesting.

@jenniferharrison8915

Ай бұрын

One of my ancestors was a former black African Slave from St Helena married to a British Soldier who was offered retirement (after Napoleon passed) farm land in Tasmania and convict slaves, as free settlers! Many Australians would swear only whites were convicts and settlers, but it's not true! Thanks for confirmation! 😀

"Don't be a pickpocket or steal and handkerchief" I laughed out loud at this as the 7x granddaughter of a convict; who found Australia to his liking when he was emancipated; married and raised 16 children I am a proud Australian who would not live anywhere else in the world! Grandpa x 5 times ago we are still here carrying your name forward the latest baby is a little girl born earlier this year. Thank you also to a great grandmother who was a suffragette to was one of the first women to cast a vote not only in Australia but in the world! We are one, but we are many And from all the lands on earth we come We'll share a dream and sing with one voice "I am, you are, we are Australian" Thank you god you have blessed this land

@petemedium2185

Ай бұрын

If she was a NZer then you're right: On 19 September 1893, Governor Lord Glasgow signed a new Electoral Act into law, and New Zealand became the first self-governing country in the world to enshrine in law the right for women to vote in parliamentary elections. The Australian Commonwealth Franchise Act of 1902 granted Australian men and women (not First Nationals) the right to vote and to stand in federal elections.

@janined5784

Ай бұрын

Yes, New South Wales is named after the Wales in Britain, just as New Zealand was named after Zeeland, a province in the Netherlands, and New Caledonia is named after Caledonia in Scotland. England had the biggest empire the world has ever seen. I personally am glad for it.

@shazza160

Ай бұрын

Actually NZ gave the vote to woman before Australia.

The crimes were often acts of desperation.

@shazza160

Ай бұрын

Or they were simply thieves.

This is an EXTREMELY simplified view of what actually happened. The truth is a lot more darker and bloody. I highly recommend these movies etc: Van Diemens Land, The Nightingale, The Proposition, The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith, For The Term Of His Natural Life,The Incredible Journey Of Mary Bryant, just to name a few!🇦🇺

Ryan there is a context to this. I sat in a historical courtroom at a shipping port in the UK and listened to a lecture about this very subject. At the time the American revolution had just ended. Britain was affected financially . Times were tough. People were starving. Australian settlement had begun. For it to be successful workers were needed. With draconian laws the prisons were full. So sending people to Aust started solving many problems. Many trumped up charges were ensuring an ample supply of workers in the new colony. It as a form of forced emigration. So a portion were actual criminals but a large portion were people who worked their sentence time for the early colonist’s survival. Big picture was quite an eye opener. I doubt few returned home after their sentence was up. Weather was better for a start. Opportunities for advancement were plentiful.

The convicts families didn't go with them, it was the soldiers families.

@FionaEm

Ай бұрын

Not necessarily. Mothers were sometimes allowed to bring their children. My convict ancestor brought her two daughters out to NSW.

@home8630

Ай бұрын

No, my family is where the whole family went out to Australia, Father, Mother and Children, He did 3 years of a 6 year sentence, and was then paroled into his wifes's keeping, so he was under his wife. They were given a whole portion of land, that started a town and region, that is still made up of majority of my family. What they did in Uk, they ended up doing out here in Australia. They were the first tradies, first medical, along the first of other things, they developed whole towns and areas. They chose Australia over UK, because they wanted a new life. That land is named after my family and still exists under our family name. They were also part of feeding the colony and supply.

@minb3672

Ай бұрын

You could apply to have your family brought out to Australia when you had finished your sentence.

@shazza160

Ай бұрын

Ryan it’s time you came to Perth to visit the Freemantle Prison. The gallows are still there view.

@Ausecko1

Ай бұрын

@@shazza160 and a peek into the Round House cells while he's there 👍

My Great, Great, Grandmother (1820-1877) was sent to Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania) as a convict at 16 for minor theft. Once her sentence was served, she married at 19 (her first husband died 2 yrs later), she remarried 2 yrs later. She had 9 children. Her story has been written about by a historical writer, who traced 3 women transported in a book called "The Tin Ticket". the journey took from 9 August to 3 December 1836.

convict times were even worse than reported here . read a book called the fatal shore. really informative. there is also an earlier book called "for the term of his natural life". read that if you must but load up on happy pills before you start. its depressing. there were 2 convicts in my family.

@zombiemeg

Ай бұрын

Yes, For the term of his natural life is an amazing book but it’s soooo sad.

Check out the amazing story of William Buckley, a convict who escaped on the Mornington Peninsular( near present day Melbourne) and lived with the local people for decades. He negotiated for them when the settlers arrived many years later.

@PiersDJackson

Ай бұрын

Don't forget John Batman.... and the city of Batmannia.

@adda58

Ай бұрын

You beat me to it - Ryan this is an amazing story to read, look it up!!!

@elowishusmirkatroid4898

Ай бұрын

@@PiersDJackson I think Batman was another imperialist, colonising bastard.

@Aussiewombat0105

Ай бұрын

Or closer to Geelong maybe.?????

@elowishusmirkatroid4898

Ай бұрын

@@Aussiewombat0105 He escaped from a temporary settlement at Sullivan Bay. During his 30 plus years with the People of the area he travelled most of the coast of Victoria as far as Portland.

In Tasmania therexare so many buildings, roads, bridges, houses that were built by convicts and are still being used to this day. One of those "convicts" was a very talented architect.

The theory at the time was exporting convicts would improve the moral standard of the British population back home. Unsurprisingly the opposite happened. Australia became more wealthy and liberal than the class-ridden homeland and by the 1890s was celebrated as 'the working man's paradise', for its high wages, strong unions and egalitarian culture.

@kennethdodemaide8678

Ай бұрын

As the old saying goes, "A fish rots from the head". The British upper classes were corrupt, immoral, greedy, brutal and arrogant.

The convict story is complex. Convicts mostly were from the poorest classes of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. There were also political prisoners from Ireland, who the British wanted to get rid of as they were a threat to the control of the Brits in Ireland. I have ancestors who were convicts, both male and female, going back to the First Fleet and forwards from there. Some of them were rogues, loveable and clever, hardworking and adaptable. I am immensely proud of their contribution to the building of Australia.

@suzanneyoung6273

Ай бұрын

As am I, one of my g.g.grandmothers was sent out for stealing a hanky. She went to Tasmania, she married another convict from there.

I have a friend whose great great grandfather was transported to Australia at the age of 14 for 14 years - for stealing a handkerchief! The family has looked up the court records and they show that he totally denied the charge , and he denied it until his dying day. He was an illiterate farm boy, in a regional city for the first time the day he was arrested. He claimed some other boys planted the handkerchief on him after robbing him, to cover some illegal activity of their own. The judge seemed sympathetic, but he had no witnesses to corroborate his story. In those days there was no distinction between children and adults under the law, and there were mandatory sentences for many crimes. If caught with stolen goods worth more than 5 pounds a death sentence could be imposed. He was given his ticket of leave and was able to marry at age 21, but was not able to travel freely until he had served his sentence, at age 28.

The arrows on the convict uniforms was used as a symbol when the convicts made bricks. There are many sites around Sydney harbour called The Rocks where you can identify bricks made by convicts because of the arrow

@perryschafer5996

Ай бұрын

My house in Bathurst was built by convicts from bricks quarried on-site. Each brick has a depression (called a frog). The shapes of the frog varied depending on who made it and was a way of ensuring a person was not skiving.

I'm 58yo & a Proud 5th generation decendant of a 1855 Irish Female Convict (GGGG'Grandmother/Widow with 3 toddler children) during the Potatoe Plight for stealing a baby goat to feed her children....She was sent to Hobart Tasmania for 7yrs hard labour (her children went to Catholic Orphanage which was just as worse) Afterwards She made it to Melbourne after release and reunited with children & died/buried @ 42yo in Gold Fields of Ballarat, Victoria.....

@fasteddie9201

Ай бұрын

Proud direct descendant of William Nash and Maria Haynes, arrived on the ship Prince of Wales, first fleet. Their son William Nash was the first European child born in Australia.

@mika72.-Bois

Ай бұрын

m​@@fasteddie9201 I am also descended from William Nash (marine) & Maria Haynes. I think the story of their son being the first Europen child born in Australia was found to be untrue. (

@mika72.-Bois

Ай бұрын

Julie Woods

@fasteddie9201

Ай бұрын

@@mika72.-Bois That is debated but what is recorded is William Nash was the first child born to military in Australia. Did you know he died as a child from a suspected snake bite? Probably where my bad luck with snakes comes from. I've been bitten by two western browns and the second person on SA medical records to survive a death adder bite. They were all when I was living on sheep properties working in SA, all my own fault too. I believe Maria Haynes re married and remained on their land grant in Windsor. I have all the history and family tree going back to them here somewhere. I think William returned to Britain.

@petemedium2185

Ай бұрын

Yes the same with my ancestors. They were tricked by the British controlled Government into believing they would be free settlers in NSW after arriving in Morpeth NSW. Instead they were made slaves of the British gentry that has settled here. It was common knowledge amongst the Irish that the 'Catholic priests' were not to be trusted, as many of them were in the 'employ' of the Colony's Government. The Pennant Hills uprising was started when the Irish were tricked by their own Catholic priest to lay down their arms. It was soon found that he was in the 'pocket' of the then Governor. The true history of early Australia will be lost forever as we older generation of Irish ancestors fades away.

On my first trip to Australia, before moving here, I was handed the passenger arrival card in the airplane to fill in. One of the questions was "Have you ever been convicted of a crime?". Now, there were only the yes/no check boxes, but for a second I thought of writing an explanation to my NO answer, that I did not know that it was still a requirement. Aussies are pretty laid back, but I'm not sure if their sense of humour would have extended to that. 🤣

@c8Lorraine1

Ай бұрын

Ohhh good one !

William Buckley was a convict that escaped the penal colony in Victoria. The guards said he's got no chance of surviving, in fact he's got Buckley's chance. Buckley survived in an Aboriginal community for 30 years & was captured afterwards. To this day Aussie slang for no chance is to say Buckley's chance or just Buckley's. So when you make it to Oz & hear you've got Buckley's, you know what it means.

@larainecurry4566

Ай бұрын

What penal colony in Victoria ?

@shaneb4612

Ай бұрын

@@larainecurry4566 From what I learned in school & what I've found out via reading. He was a convict, that escaped from custody in what we now know as Victoria. It may not have a been a penal colony technically, it may have been a prison/prison camp/chain gang/prison work detail. For the sake of thinking & writing a better term. I wrote a penal colony for ease or understanding. Up until 1851 the only state not to have penal colonies was South Australia that now has become SA & NT. The most notable penal colonies were of course Sydney, Port Macquarie, Moreton (Brisbane), WA around Perth & Van Diemen's Land (Port Arthur Tassie).

@coraliemoller3896

Ай бұрын

I have seen a comment before that some convicts arriving in Sydney were then sent to Victoria. I’m not sure if they were sent to be held in custody there or to work for free settlers.

@shaneb4612

Ай бұрын

@@coraliemoller3896 Cheers for the follow up comment. That was my understanding, that what you mentioned is correct. They were sent to be a part of prison work details. Whether it was for free-settlers or in prison chain gangs or prison camps or works details. Works details such as building government buildings or capital works infrastructure like sewage/drainage/roads/land clearing.

Buckley was a convict that escaped and joined the Aborigines: Buckley survived and spent the ensuing thirty-two years living with the aborigines of the area, and when discovered in 1835 had become entirely assimilated into aborigine culture.

Okay, the treatmills, I know, were located at what is now "Central Station". They were also called "ball crushers", as the hands were tied to a beam above the shoulder hight, the convict had to step to stay upright, or risk falling and the treamill would hit them in the guts or testicles. Most of these convicts were young teenagers, and were sent to this punishment to "teach them a lesson" for minor infringements. And most of the convicts were quite young. It was common for them to be below 15, some even 12.

@hannahv8903

Ай бұрын

There was also a treadmill at port Arthur, used to power the flour mill.

The marines' families went, not the convicts.

@tezza3733

Ай бұрын

SOME of the marines had families, many didnt. and the womens "FACTORIES" had 2 shifts of workers, some that were transported for prostitution or infidelity often "worked" at their old trade or found a new one. the "treadmills" were to power the "factories."the men would have to tread the mill to power the shafts and flywheels that kept the factories functioning. to get an idea of what the factories were like read the book "The Potato Factory" its about the womens factory here in Hobart, the Proponents were imaginary but the background was REAL!!! there were some horrible things done back then. for being "sick" without reason (medical check by the resident doctor" you have 2 arms, 2 legs, you can move, your NOT sick.") 10 lashes of the "CAT" (cat o nine tails) 5 feet long with metal barbs at the ends of EACH "tail" as you can imagine the men's AND WOMEN'S backs were often badly scarred. the opening cartoon is just such one of these "floggings"

@terryjeisman7550

Ай бұрын

My ancestor was a corporal of marines in 1788, he served in NSW until 1805 when he was posted back to Plymouth. His marraige certificate descibes his wife as a serving wench. He was caught for some minor offence in 1789 and was sent to Norfolk Island on half pay for 2 years. 1 of his 2 sons came to Australia via California in 1851 looking to make hisfortune in the gold fields.

Most crimes were crimes of theft often due to extreme poverty with no social welfare. Free farmers and settlers were there at the start.Convicts were given land after they finished their time. Slaves is not a term to use they were prisoners who were set free when they served their sentence.

@DeepThought9999

Ай бұрын

Here again Ryan is another example of the origin of today’s Australian culture. The attitude of a “fair go, mate” (fairness to all, despite their position in society or their appearance) is intrinsic to today’s Australia. Notable examples are the “tall poppy syndrome”, mateship, the ongoing social justice and social welfare aspects of today’s government policies such as fair pay, social welfare and particularly with the introduction of Medicare and tighter gun controls. Many (most?) of those prisoners, after being set free, became highly valued, law-abiding and respected members of society making great contributions to the Australia we know today.

@becsterbrisbane6275

Ай бұрын

@@DeepThought9999 For one, Isaac Nicholls, our first Postmaster General was a convict!

@janmeyer3129

Ай бұрын

In Western Australia some pastoralists owning vast properties in the Northwest petitioned the government to allow ticket-of-leave men to take up property in their areas - to boost the population and industry to a level which would get them infrastucture like ports, railways and roads.

Lol, when he said "what? long sleeves? It's friggin Australia!" I LOL'd my head off, I am sitting here in front of my computer and it's 3:pm in the arvo, and it's 9C (48F), I have a singlet, a longed sleeve shirt, and a sloppy joe (sweater) on and am freezing. We also had our first snow fall of the year down in the Snowy Mountains. BTW Ryan, it's not New South "Wales", it's New "South Wales".

@DeepThought9999

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the story goes that as Captain Cook was sailing up the east coast of what would come to be known of Australia in 1770, the coastline reminded him of South Wales.

@vtbn53

Ай бұрын

@@DeepThought9999 Yep that's the way I remember it.

@johnderatt3168

Ай бұрын

It's not "New South Wales", it's just horrible cockroach country full of Blues supporters. Real Aussies wear Maroon and live in Queensland! (Puts on Flame Suit)

It is worth noting that work done by convicts, much of which remains, is of a very high quality indeed.

@lisc7204

Ай бұрын

Absolutely, a large amount of Sydney, and even Brissie were built by convicts.

There were something like 52,000 convicts sent to the American colony decades before the First Fleet prior to the War of Independence. In fact, the independence of America was one reason for the focus shifting to New South Wales. So, we have more in common with you Seppos than you might think!

There were quite a few escaped convicts that befriended aboriginal people. Most of them seem to be of Irish origin, so their equal disdain for the British would probably have been helpful. Something worthwhile knowing is the 'history wars' in Australia between a 'Black Armband' and a 'White Blindfold' interpretation of events. My Masters is in History (though not of Australia), but it is always worthwhile making a habit of checking actual evidence and sources (on both sides) if anything seems shocking. Often what was originally reported is cut or embellished to support a particular contemporary agenda. Possibly this even occurs in US history - like "Jeremiah Springfield was great!!"

@tacitdionysus3220

Ай бұрын

@@QPRTokyo Any particular stand-outs?

@jenniferharrison8915

Ай бұрын

Aboriginals certainly did not communicate well or understand English, so how could they discern Irish from English? Even if they had a grudge against the English (a modern concept), they would not have sided with other whites against them! They fought with and stole from other tribes in brutal battles, that was their traditional lifestyle! Your statement doesn't make sense! 😏

We are such a fine nation of individuals, because English judges hand picked only the best to establish the nation of Australia. Well done the judges.

I am a First Fleet descendant. There are seven convicts in my family tree that I have identified so far.

Huge numbers of us are descendants of Irish convicts.

What do you mean we weren't friendly in Georgian and Victorian times??? Remember, most convicts were transported to Ausltralia for what we would called petty crimes or misdemeanors these days. More serious crimes, such as rape and murder, became transportable offences in the 1830s, but since they were also punishable by death, comparatively few convicts were transported for such crimes.

@fishnchips8132

Ай бұрын

That's right! And that's where the worst still live. All the decent ones came to Oz - I have 9 in my fam. tree.

@optimusmaximus9646

Ай бұрын

@@fishnchips8132 Nice.

Fun little fact: William Bligh of the "Mutiny on the Bounty" fame was appointed governor of the colony of New South Wales 17 years after the infamous event. He was only in office 1 year and 166 days due, you guessed it, to a rebellion - specifically the "Rum Rebellion" - Australia's only successful coup. Have a read about it, it's actually pretty interesting and comedic at times. It basically comes down to colonists and British soldiers using rum as currency to avoid taxes. Our love of liquor in Australia has a long and storied history.

My 4 x great-grandmother was sentenced to 7 years' transportation for theft. She arrived at Sydney Harbour in 1833 after a 5-month journey, bringing her two children with her. One died in infancy. The other married a sailor and had 4 sons, one of whom was my 2 x great-grandfather Thomas.

My ancestors one of them was sent from England to Australia for baking a pheasant pie for someone he knew. He didn't know it was poached but because he cooked a pie he was transported never to see family and relatives in england again. While he was transported to australia serving his time he was governor phillips personal baker in sydney. After completed sentence was granted a small patch of land and became a farmer, but everyone knew that he was a convict and was given a hard time from the population for being so as was his children and family. But ebd of the day compared to england we know who got the better deal.

@gwendixon74

Ай бұрын

mine stole £26 family followed when he was pardened

@matallens3006

Ай бұрын

@@gwendixon74 pretty unfair back in the day but we all got the better deal in the end I guess, look at Australia now on the international stage punching well above its weight.😊👍

@gwendixon74

Ай бұрын

@matallens3006 I'm in new zealand he's son came over with the waikato militia 4th reg in 1864.

@shazza160

Ай бұрын

Oh soooo many innocent convicts. Did you know that even today nearly every inmate will tell you they were innocent, was framed or it the only crime they did. Amazing how some things never change.

@matallens3006

Ай бұрын

@@shazza160 it's a bit different if you're only doing your job and told payment for baking the pie you can bake and keep one for supplying the service to him . But yes everyone screams innocent, if we didn't have all these innocent people lawyers would be out of a job, judges would be out of a job, police would be out of a job. Any ways what ever mate.

It is quite often forgotten that these convicts were the foundation of modern Australia. We are a 'mob' from all over the world now and welcome anyone who wants to work and be an Australian. Our first nation people assisted with the settlement too and are part of this big brown land.

My mum has a piece of rock, not sure what kind. It sits in the corner of her kitchen and always has. Never thought to ask her where it came from but it has the convict arrow carved into it. We don’t have any convicts in our tree other than those by marriage unfortunately. I think I need to ring my mum 😊

Hey, Ryan. They did us a favour, getting us out of the cold, wet, crowded British Isles and sending us on a free vacation 'Down Under'. I have 7 convicts in my family history (along with other Middle-Class, entrepreneurial types who came out 'free' or subsidised by colonial societies. Most worked as domestics or farm labourers until they got their 'Ticket of Leave'. Then they got land, tools or help setting up a business. The British just wanted to set up a successful colony. One of my convicts, a Scots farmer, stole a horse, received '14 Years Beyond the Seas' but when they found he could farm they brought out (at Government expense) his wife and 4 kids. Each received 100 acres along a fertile riverfront. Soon they leased out land to later arrivals and became landlords, mayors, even constables (police).

My hometown is Port Macquarie, one of the penal colonies mentioned in the video and there's still buildings around today that were built by the convicts sent there including a large church in the middle of town.

New York was named after James Sturt who became the Duke of York, and later went on to be King James ll. New York was first named New Netherlands but when the English took it from the Dutch in 1664, the then king, Charles ll, named it after his younger brother, the Duke of York.

@chookchook2451

Ай бұрын

New Amsterdam not New Netherlands

@user-ic8wh5su2t

Ай бұрын

@@chookchook2451Apparently, New Netherlands was the territory which included the city of New Amsterdam. I think that’s how it goes 🙂

One thing to understand about the ships that prisoners were transported in, there would be kept in the hold of a ship which was only about a metre high meaning they could not stand up at any time

I have 2 female convicts and 1 male ships Officer who arrived on the First Fleet. That makes up both sides of my Dad’s family and they were from England and Wales. My Mother’s side were later arrivals, one was titled and from London. Her Dad’s side was from Ireland. They all came after the convicts stopped but it became an interesting mix.

My great Grandmother's Grandfather and Great Grandfather were convicts. One arrived in 1823 for a 14 year sentence for stealing 3 sheep. He was granted approval by the Governor to bring his wife and kids down here after serving a few years. The other received a death sentence for taking back his own cow. That was later changed to "life in the colonies". He served 7years and received his pardon. He wasn't allowed to marry until after his pardon. His wife had given birth to their first son prior to the wedding, so their child Thomas Post, was changed to Thomas Howarth, after his father following the marriage.

We’re chilled because we have resilience built in.

G'day Ryan. Im 7th generation Australian, my grandkids are 9th. But i still think this land was stolen, no treaty, no asking if we were welcome. Just the pomes (prisoners of mother england) taking what they wanted. 🇦🇺

@joetesta5730

Ай бұрын

@happyhed. I challenge you to back through history and tell me what piece of land on this planet wasn't at one point or another conquered and and seized from someone else. Get over the guilt mindset it serves no one well. The past is the past and we are all, what ever colour, race, or creed, blessed to call this country home. Thanks almost entirely to the benefits of western ( British) ideas, e4ngenuity and can do mentality.

@carbine5378

Ай бұрын

So this land was stolen you think. What do you think Australia would be today had it not been settled by the poms? For god sake face reality!

@elizabethc1039

Ай бұрын

​@@joetesta5730The person didn't say they felt guilty they just told like it is. Terra Nullus was a lie and the land WAS stolen. The native people were massacred, starved, had their children stolen. I'm 4 the generation Australian of Scottish descent. I don't feel guilty but I am honest about and open to the historical facts of the colonisation of my Country.

@joetesta5730

Ай бұрын

@@elizabethc1039 Can I ask what your source of information for your view is? There were certainly conflicts but I don't think they fall into the category of massacres. Massacres was what Genghis Kahn and Tilla the Hun did. Killed entire villages in the most sadistic ways, including destroying all animals. They burned every home and building to the ground and disembowelled and cut heads off and left them in huge piles to instil fear in other enemies. Many aboriginal children were removed from their family due to family dysfunction and alcoholism, physical and emotional and mental abuse and for the children's own safety. Tell me what the government should do about the youth crime in places like Townsville and Alice springs going on right now? It doesn't appear a lot has changed in 100 or so years. What's your solution to that current dilemma plaguing these and other towns. I have a friend who recently sold her investment house in Townsville because of vandalism on 4 occasions in less than twelve months. Many of these offenders are primary school age. Where are their parents of these children? Who should be held accountable. While ever we condone victimhood we will never have a healthy strong cohesive society. Not everything about our past is pretty but I seriously dispute this gaslighted version of Australian colonial history And using clichés like stolen land and children etc. The country was conquered by a superior nation and taken from its original occupants, as were most lands around the world for centuries. Time to look forward in hope and confidence, not look back in anger. That will do nothing more than dive and weaken this country.

@lisc7204

Ай бұрын

Well yeah, the documents are located in the London museum showing the King told Cook to form a treaty and give recompense to the native inhabitants to settle in the country. Cook ignored his king.

4:59 🤣 Sausage fest! That term actually killed me! Why don‘t we use that in Germany?

Hi Ryan. Thanks for the video. I always enjoy you saying hi to us for the day. ❤

@sooz1999

Ай бұрын

I was just about to say that, his greeting is priceless 😂❤

I’m a descendant of at least 3 convicts, but probably many more. Haggai Hines was sent to Sydney on the ship Adrian in 1830 for stealing a hog, he was given 7 years and was granted freedom in 1835. He had a wife and 2 children back in England whom he never saw again. He lived a long life and died at the age of 80, married another 3 times and had at least 20 children. On Mums side, her ancestor served 14 years for larceny, he was a servant and was accused of stealing from his master.

Back in the day, Handkerchiefs were hand made of Lace which was one of the most expensive commodities of the time, it wasn't just a piece of cloth, it was a sign of wealth..

Dont trust any version of Australian history narrated in an American accent.

@KH-rc7tl

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How he pronounced Port Macquarie 😂😂

@aussiebattler7789

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some of it is correct but not much but he most important thing never mentioned was that england only sent convicts and not religious zelots and thus started what was and still is the lucky country

@shazza160

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Yes that is true but Ryan watches all sorts of us researched crap content.

@issliss

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@@aussiebattler7789actually a lot of the free settlers especially to South Australia and the Hills wine area there were religious refugees escaping persecution in Prussia (now Germany). Se we got a decent dose of religious zealots too 😉

@aussiebattler7789

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@@issliss You are correct my appologies , however they are not in numbers as is the case on that other contient

I am proud of my Tasmanian convicts, I would not be here without them

@suzanneyoung6273

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Same here.

@OutAndAboutwithDi

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@@suzanneyoung6273 my 6 x Grandfather escaped and lived in the Tasmanian bush for 3 years before he was caught again.

Not many people realise that while the English shipped around 150,000 convicts to Australia, the also shipped about 120,000 to America.

Check out when rum was used a currency in sydney.

There's a good 2015 mini series called Banished. It's set in these times and it's well worth checking it out. If you want something else a bit different, check out the tv series Underbelly: Razor that is set in Sydney in the 1920's and 30's about the two crime queens that ruled.

Don't be a pickpocket? Agreed, but it was often steal or starve in Britain in those days. It was during the Industrial Revolution when people in villages lost their livelihood because of new technology. Unemployment and crime were rife.

Some of those convicts sent out were political prisoners. My Irish Catholic convict ancestor was sent out as a political prisoner. There was no charge against him or many of the others he was sent out with, and one of the conditions was he could never return to Ireland.

A decedent of two convicts from the first fleet here! As a decedent I think we got the better end of the deal ! Though these convicts built our country and were the pioneers of our Mateship… as they had to stick together!

The treadmills drove water pumps

Yes mate, new England, new Jersey, new Mexico, new Zealand, lots of examples

Don't forget, Aussies from NSW sailed to China in 1900 to support the British with the "Boxer Rebellion", and around the same time sent 15,000 soldiers to support the British in the 2nd Boer War (in Sth Africia). When WW1 came around - not only did we go and fight for the British empire, but may under-aged youth lied about their age to get into the army to "do their bit, support the fatherland and be with their mates".

@heatherharvey3129

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Not just under-age men enlisted with false ages. There are many examples of over-age men putting down their age so as not to be rejected when they attempted to enlist. I recently researched a soldier here in Western Australia who was 48 years old at the time of his 1915 enlistment, stating he was 45 years ( the newly raised age limit from June 1915 - prior to that the upper age limit was 38 years). He also lied about his place of birth, claiming to be Danish born, not Australian born (born in Victoria in 1867), most likely to "muddy the water" if the authorities wanted to check up on his true age. He survived the war. He had 2 grown sons who also served, and survived, WW1.

@petemedium2185

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'Don't forget'. Generational Aussies know too well how we saved the arse of the British in so many of their conflicts. It's the British, especially the many we spent millions of pounds on in assisting their passage to Australia after WW II, and who still think we weren't involved in their wars, that need educating. And by the way, according to Wikipedia, the British still owe Australia close to half of what they promised in that 'Ten Pound Pom' scheme.

@AndrewFishman

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My grandfather was 16 years old when he enlisted, spent his 17th in Egypt, 18th and 19 in the front lines of France 1916 - 1918, Second Pioneer Battalion. His father cost him a month's pay and a charge for lying on his enlistment papers in 1917 when he sent a letter asking the war Dept to put the youngest brother with either my grandfather or his brother, in Palestine with the Light Horse. He wrote that Ken had spent his 18 1nd 19th birthdays in France, he had signed on as 21 on his arrestment papers. However, so had his brother a couple of months earlier. Percy was sent to Gallipolli and then Palestine, where he was joined by Edgar, they are confirmed at the Charge at Beersheba. Ken, my grandfather, got the raw end of the deal and was sent to France as a signals man, he learned morse code working for the post office. 2nd Battalion battle honours read like a where's where of shitty battles in that shitshow.

@c8Lorraine1

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Be damn if I’d fight for England if I’d been sent to do my sentence in Aust.

@ashleybarrett6310

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Learn your history

Captain Cook named Australia (the part he could see) New South Wales because the country he could see (from the ship I guess) reminded him of South Wales, hard to imagine a resemblance.

@ginagriffith2846

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Parts of the South Coast of NSW are very much like Wales. Was it South Wales or Wales in the South?

My 4 times great grandfather was sent to Sydney as a convict for selling alcohol on Christmas Day.

I may be wrong, but I think 'families' referred to the wives and children of the soldiers and officers, not the convicts.

My great great grandfather was sentenced to transportation for stealing a gold watch from a Frenchman (I like his style ;) ) however on the journey to Tasmania something happened onboard ship that my ancestor was involved in, in a good way, that on arrival he was granted a conditional pardon and given his freedom the condition being he never return to England.

The tree mill ground wheat for flour for bread

It is amazing how we turned out. Hope you enjoyed the eclipse. Saw plenty of images on the news. We get one in 4 years

The descendants of the convicts were the lucky ones. They ended up as Australians.

Hi Ryan&family I hope you all had a lovely Easter😙😙😙 it was a one way trip also.....never to see England again😊✌

Melbourne was not penal settlement , the penal settlements were Sydney and Tasmania .

8 months was the average length of the journey, about the same as a space journey to Mars. It wasn't an "War of Indepence " either. It was more a 2nd English civil war , only fought on another continent which the English ( British) were basically fighting every one else on the planet.)

Simple History also produced The Battle of Brisbane, 1942! 😉👍 Yes, the British only claimed a Small Cove in New South Wales, not the whole contjnent! Crimes included being American, African, French, Irish rebels, inconvenient, unwanted, an orphan, etc! My ancestor was an educated draper (fabrics), but was worked cutting timber 15hrs per day in chains! Females were a big commodity, many babies were conceived on board the ships! Some guards were sadists, new/added crimes were easily invented! Ambitious rebels became bushrangers, some escapees had to become cannibals to survive! The Aboriginals were not friendly or civilized, nor had actual homes to share! Many convict built sandstone structures that created the first towns, courts, barracks, bridges, warehouses are intact! 🙋

@suekennedy1595

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You are calling the aboriginals uncivilised and you were the ones who crashed on their land .

@jenniferharrison8915

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@@suekennedy1595 You are sadly uneducated! They had no dwellings, no farmed or settled lands, no clothes, no crafts, no culture, no common languages and fought other tribes continuously, with sticks and spears, for women and food! None of my family, took anything from them, we all pay them so they survive, they are totally dependent! The Dutch 'crashed' half of Australia in 1616, and suffered the loss of their sailors and explorers to cannibalism! 😏

@jenniferharrison8915

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@@suekennedy1595 you are uneducated!

@jenniferharrison8915

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​​​​​​​​@@suekennedy1595You are seriously uneducated! They had no settlements, claimed no land or farmed any, they had no clothes, toilets, crafts, building skills, no engineering, common language or writing, basic biological knowledge or complicated weapons! They travelled following the food, attacking other tribes and stealing women and food! They still use sticks for punishment in the outback! They are our dependents, we actually pay them to survive! The Dutch 'crashed' Australia in 1616, not us (whoever you mean)!!?

@jenniferharrison8915

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@@suekennedy1595 I never "crashed" anyone's land, nor was there an existing nation here, half of the continent was already claimed by Holland! There were previously no settlements, no homes, no clothes, no tools or buildings, no roads, just many small separate tribes with spears!

My husband is a proud aboriginal man from arnhem land the worlds olds living civilisation

Fun fact: New South Wales used to be much bigger. It even included New Zealand for a while. (Don't mention that to a kiwi.) When Australia became an independent country, the constitution included a provision to join as a separate state of Australia. That clause is still there, but it is unlikely to ever happen.

Hey Ryan have a look at some KZread videos about port headland in Western Australia and see how much this country relies on the iron ore pumped out of there in ships on a daily basis, it will blow you away...

I have 7 convicts in my family tree. One stole a coat got 7 years, One stole from somebody's person [I suspect that means pickpocket] got 7 years, One stole pigs also got 7 years, one was hunting illegally and when discovered the friend with him shot at the person who caught them to scare them away and they were both to be hanged but Lord Sandwich wrote a lovely letter for leniency and he got 14 years. 2 more for theft also both got 7 years, but one of these was pardoned after building the first water mill in the colony and ended up very wealthy. The last was Irish, of fighting age and had a trade - Once governor Macquarie decided to make the colony permanent they wanted skilled people to build the colony and the English wanted Irish rebels gone from Ireland. My ancestor was a stone mason, he was shipped here, but we can't find what the sentence was or the crime but he was listed as a convict when he got on the ship and a free man when he got off. He worked in the colony for many years, married and had a family and in his old age returned to Ireland.

New South wales, you just made me think the same thing and I've lived here my whole life and never thought of why my state was called this. 🧐

@willpugh-calotte2199

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Because we just rattle it off as one word - "Newsouthwales" - we don't think of the meaning of the "word" as the sum of its parts.

@tezza3733

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and Victoria was named after the queen, which pissed the northern state off as that is what they had intended to name their state so they called it Queensland, Tasmania was named after the English navigator that charted the "bass straight"

@willpugh-calotte2199

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@@tezza3733 Abel Tasman was Dutch.

@shazza160

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Is that a spoof answer.

@angelavinen2881

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Actually Tasmania was named Van Diemens land for a long time before a name change occurred. The Aboriginal people (Palawa Kani) called Tasmania Lutruwita.

Getting close to ANZAC day here. Last year you reacted to Eric Bogle clip 'I was only 19' . Check out awm (australian war memorial)youtube of ww2 anzacs singing waltzing matilda and marching..incredible!! 10:30am

My relative was at Moreton bay

Convict heritage and proud

One of the best books to read is “For The Term Of His Natural Life”.

The tread mill would have either ground wheat or corn, or used to pump water!

My Great Grandfather was a convict. Obtained his ticket of leave and ended up owing 3 properties which he ended up selling and returned to England.

Just heard you say you’d watch the eclipse.🐸🐸

The treadmills probably powered things like flour mills, or other ways to provide necessities (nothing else springs to mind, tho).

@inalarose7875

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No I've seen these on Time Team and they didn't do anything. It was mindless and meaningless.

@heatherharvey3129

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@@inalarose7875 It wasn't "meaningless" - it was to break them and to punish them, as that was the thinking of the time. There was no concept of rehabilitation at that time.

@inalarose7875

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@@heatherharvey3129 No I only meant in terms of productive work, as the original idea was that the punishment was to generate anything beyond its purpose as punishment.

American's pride themselves in that their founding father's had great convictions. So did Australians! Different type of convictions... (as told by an Australian)

South and north Wales were included in quite different kingdoms for much of their histories

They built a road over the Blue Mountains in 1813 have a look at how huge the Blue Mountains are ,there is a movie made in the 70's called Amongst Women about female convicts who escaped living with Aboriginal people in western Sydney and the blue mountains it was banned .

See that’s why we’re so tough and cool

Check out "Hoes Of The High Seas, Brothel Ship or Ship of Mothers, The Lady Juliana Women were Extraordinary" 😉

This was also if they survived the journey there. It was long and a lot of people died on the way for various reasons.

hmm posted at 3pm aest but 1am est hmm im starting to think you like australia just by a pure hunch

New South Wales is actually named after South Wales in the UK.

American War in support of Tax Avoidance and Slavery - 1775-1783 First Fleet lands in Australia - 1787 From the perspective of the British, the only thing the US really had over Australia was it was a closer dumping ground for convicts to act as forced labour.

@DeepThought9999

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First Fleet departed England in May 1787, arrived at Botany Bay January 1788, a voyage of just less than 8 months. After a few days there, the fleet was relocated to nearby Port Jackson, described by the First Fleet’s commander Arthur Phillip as “the finest harbour in the world, in which a thousand sail of the line may ride in perfect securety”. Port Jackson is commonly known as Sydney Harbour although Sydney Harbour actually only forms part of it, as there are North and Middle Harbours, plus Parramatta and Lane Cove Rivers making up the huge Port Jackson. Settlement was established at Sydney Cove (part of which is commonly known as Circular Quay) 26 January 1788. Australia Day. They chose a public holiday to settle here. How appropriate! Even better, they settled at Australia’s tourism hotspot and the location of a major tourist/cruise ship terminal, an Opera House and a big bridge. Foresight! ;)😂

Have a good one M8.

Ryan, yes, the US has quite a lot of British names! New Jersey and New York. Also Portland, Boston, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Charleston, Maryland, Newark and Richmond are all named after places and people in England.

@kennethdodemaide8678

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Pittsburgh was named after William Pitt.

@Jeni10

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@@kennethdodemaide8678 Yes, a British Prime Minister.

A large proportions were Orphans and they were still sending orphan in 1970

Families of the marines.

I live in Moreton Bay 😊

More free settlers than convicts came to Australia. It was not just convicts.

I'm surprised they gave the handkerchief example and not the bread one as so, so many were transported for stealing bread to feed themselves and their starving families. There were many similar petty crimes from desperate people trying to survive in harsh, hard times that resulted in transportation. One of my ancestors was transported for opening his tailor shop on a Sunday (as he really needed the money from that day's custom). It was like Britain was trying to rid of its poorest people.

These so-calked "convicts" weren't always convicts! Two stories that I know of are one, a girl was sent to the colonies for taking a 4" piece of ribbon! Another for stealing a loaf of bread because people were starving! The MAIN reason to ship people on a 6 month journey was to depopulate London, which was overcrowded. Many didn't survive the sea journey!

I've been doing a lot of my ancestry of late as I wanted to know if there were any convicts in my family history. I've since dug up 8, 6 of which I'm directly related and 2 who married into the extended family back in the 1800's. A couple of note was an Irish woman who was sent over for stealing a coat in London to keep warm. She got 7 years but kept trying to escape. On one escape attempt she was found a few weeks later working in a brother in Hobart. Another escapes with a couple of other gents only to shoot and kill someone while trying to pinch eggs to eat. He was hung in Launceston (Tasmania) for his deeds. Considering there were so many convicts sent over here a most original Aussie families have all probably got a convict somewhere in their past.