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@PinkRose0910

3 жыл бұрын

This was one of the best episodes! I love the real talk about the downside and unhealthy toxic standards and behaviors. Also it allows fans to realize even people that look great ,and seem to have a glamorous job are humans and go through struggles too. Also it’s fun to learn about the different journeys people take that leads them to an entertainment type of job. Also yes, Ashley I feel ya on the hair takes work! I’ve never heard of the guest. It was so funny how they have different memories. But different people do remember different things about the same event. I don’t listen to the podcast. I watch because I enjoy watching the interactions ,and seeing your faces and body language.

@ALipin-ow7xc

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, one of the best episodes! I felt the episode was so short. Hoping for more Heejun in the future 👌

@chiko7558

3 жыл бұрын

It was great! Just wished there were English subtitles when they spoke Korean. ^^;;;;

@samdg4322

3 жыл бұрын

I want part 2 of this episode

@traceycheuk4070

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not the type to comment usually but I honestly loved this episode!! Love how genuine and real you guys are ❤️❤️❤️❤️

this man speaks f a c t s like talking about the things anyone doesn't want to mention. hopefully he gets invited for more episodes

@jdm4087

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. This is my favorite episode so far. It was a good balance of serious talk, but also have humor here and there where it didn't get too serious. I actually wouldn't mind if there was a serious video where it actually "gets real" if it meant helping educate people further on how the industry operates. But I know that it's difficult since they're still active.

@marielroman6717

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdm4087 yeah i know thats way they can't talk about the industry cause they're still part of it but its good listen to someone who talks about the control of the companies over their artists music and yes the things are changing but its sad tho there's a long way to go

@marielroman6717

3 жыл бұрын

@Anna's randomness WhoCares mm thats because she's also in the industry not like an idol anymore but she's still active doing other stuff and for respect to her friends and ex members of her group too

Peniel on the first few minutes: I can't say anything deeper than this 🤐, you guys can say what you want. Peniel through out the episode: being talkative and realistic savage aff 😂 he even talk about their former VP 😂😂🙏 I hope to have Heejun, Ph-1 and Jamie as their guests. It will be dope!! ♥️🙏

@loveendeavour5845

3 жыл бұрын

Spilling the tea Peniel 😂😂😂😂

@NaftaliaF89

3 жыл бұрын

omg those 3 guest combination is the bestttttt!

It was so refreshing to see that Heejun wanted to get REAL. It was super interesting hearing their real opinions. I love how honest Heejun was with his thoughts & feelings. Hope he comes back for future episodes

"Who listens to this?" BM, Ashley, Peniel and hidden kards

@adhilaaaf3334

3 жыл бұрын

Melody here join the party!💞

@huh1965

3 жыл бұрын

Ikonic here

@user-jh1nl2nj8f

3 жыл бұрын

And melody💙

@queeniemelody6992

3 жыл бұрын

Army here🙋🏽‍♀️

@ginaverso

3 жыл бұрын

I'm ATINY and multistan from then on 😎😂

I couldn't agree with Heejun more. Western audiences listen to how good the music is first and then get hooked on the artist. KARD's first 3 songs were so freaking good! That moombahton groove was so fresh and different from anything else in Korea at the time. Same thing with Stray Kids and Dreamcatcher. Both had a very different and awesome sound that got recognized by international fans way before they made waves in Korea.

@rubberduckyyouretheone1113

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I totally agree! Those three groups really do have a unique groove

@mochinh

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I love Dreamcatcher songs way back when they weren't famous at all. The songs just sounded so good!

@She.s_abovepressure

Жыл бұрын

True, i'm like 2nd month in k-pop and i got hooked actually on music. I don't care about their personal life as long as they're good. I listen so many artists now, and i dont really know anything about them. And i dont need to really. Let them eat, let them live, let them laugh, let them love. There's so many amazing groups and solo artist, they work so hard it's already tough. Fans should stop being so crazy and get a live. And agencies should fkng chill

How peniel describe btob "sooo loud" "goofy as hell" Love it too

the podcast feels too short when in fact it's one of the longest among their other episodes, that meant I really enjoyed listening to han heejun oml this episode is so interesting

@kijoring

3 жыл бұрын

omg i feel u

i agree - diet culture in korea is toxic, sports is advertised as a "diet program" and one-meal a day diets are a popular go to... even as a korean i struggle to understand why weight loss + looks is so emphasized in korean culture and hope that one day weight loss won't be some cruel, miserable pass time

@momokoblue8032

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, I would go so far as to say that most idols, especially female idols, have a really bad relationship with food. The dieting is out of hand when idols who are on the low end of their recommended weight get even thinner on their "diets".

@jdm4087

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, which is why Peniel is 100% correct about teaching the trainees and idols on how to properly diet and exercise. These companies can easily hire just one certified personal trainer and a nutritionist to teach them. They actually have a much easier time losing weight by being on a proper workout program and meal plan. These are teens and young adults who can damage their metabolism and relationship with food by going on these crazy "diets".

@SY-fp6ng

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdm4087 my impression is that the Korean aesthetic doesn't appreciate a lot of muscle tone on females which is unfortunate

It felt like heejun was the host 🤣 Btw I didn’t have a problem with him switching languages, I think he was translating most of it, or even if he didn’t, it was pretty understandable ☺️ I’d definitely like a second part with him

@nguyenhatien1787

3 жыл бұрын

He has been living in Korea for long now, it's a common thing that he forgets English from time to time.

50:21 "99% of time, company doesn't know what they're doing" fucking hell yes.

This was good. Heejun honestly spoke truth.

One of the realest eps! Clap clap. Hope they talk about this more so the fans would know how hard it is to get and stay in the industry. Sadly, a lot of kpop fans easily cancel artists for controversies and scandals without considering the amount of hardships they went through to make it. I hope that changes in the korean ent industry soon. PS: BM seems a bit down lately. Is he stressed about his solo debut? His songs are lit though.🔥 Hope he knows that.

@jdm4087

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. There's actually a good number of KZread videos from many former trainees who talk about their experiences, but I don't think many people know about it.

@karneissiawest7005

2 жыл бұрын

Not An Excuse EveryOne Has HardShips It’s Not Just Idols They Aren’t Better Than Anyone On The Earth 🌍 World 🌍 And Planet 🌏

@tanie3543

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but if a racist/nazi supporter worked hard and became an idol i would absolutely want them out of the public eye. Idgaf about their hardwork if they go against basic human rights. Your logic is flawed.

@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans

11 ай бұрын

U act as if cancel culture only applies to kpop fans lmao. Get a grip

@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans

11 ай бұрын

​@@karneissiawest7005oh trust me, idols are better than ur whole existence. Grow up

Heejun: peniel listen to your guest Peniel: oh i'm listening. i'm multitasking!! Ok...our peniel good at multi now! Glad to hear that!😂

@mbot565

3 жыл бұрын

naaahh, I think he's still bad at multi tasking. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@adhilaaaf3334

3 жыл бұрын

@@mbot565 I just.....can't say no to him😂

@mbot565

3 жыл бұрын

same! 🤣🤣🤣

@animedork101

3 жыл бұрын

Listen, I love our Peuni, but I can come close to guaranteeing.... that homeboy was definitely not multitasking. Haaaaahaha. But it's okay, we love him still. 💙

@daningwiranty2762

3 жыл бұрын

Dont lie Peniel hahahahahaha

Heejun: she was gorgeous sitting down and when she stood up ppl went 'oh! Thats it?' Lmao💀 The offside..this dude was a bit too excited👀

The only episode of Get Real I need KZread to offer CC SUBS in Konglish. 😏😖

@johnnyd.seducedmarilynm.7599

3 жыл бұрын

True, why so much korean, help(

The impressive thing is heejun knows what he's talking about and where the conversation is going.

This is the first time I know about Han Heejun I can say he's the most straightforward and leading guest Get Real has ever had! I don't think Ashley, BM and Peniel had acted like this with any other guests. Heejun is everything I want to be in front of a microphone. This was the wrap up for Season 1 and it really honored it's name, GET REAL.

Han Heejun is funny and bold! lol Guest interviewing the hosts. lol Tfs

@Ayveh

3 жыл бұрын

Right! I am loving his brutal honesty and jokes XD

Heejun and Ashley relationship is so cute! Like what a brother and sister would do. Lol

BM's "that was embarrassing" is a mood i keep repeat that part because yeah i can't imagine too matt and his journal day:"D

11:09 'the one that went to jail too?' HAHAHAHAJSKSKSK I'm dying 😂😂😂😂

@njoash110

3 жыл бұрын

I love how they remember all the stories

@LifeisMelody342

3 жыл бұрын

@@njoash110 They don’t always remember because the same party that Ashley introduced BM to Peneil at all three have forgotten that exact moment at separate times

I’m so used to Heejun in ASC that his actual personality was a huge shock, omg

This episode was refreshing. I could feel them somehow being able to breathe and talk about this like a weight was lifted a bit. It's good that we're reminded it's not all glitter in Kpop

@navi3430

3 жыл бұрын

It's really nice to see them being so honest and open about it. Almost like they're relieved they can talk about it.

The fact that I legit screamed when Peniel named All Time Low and Red Jumpsuit Apparatus as the bands he used to listen to🥺😭 The man’s got taste!

@navi3430

3 жыл бұрын

That was me in middle school!

@xXRazeGoBoomXx

3 жыл бұрын

We love men with good taste and music

@navi3430

3 жыл бұрын

@@xXRazeGoBoomXx Yes we do

@Lcruz16

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

Please invite Heejun again someday, this was great!

@sehri2681

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@mojooo4996

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! He adds so much to a conversation

@navi3430

3 жыл бұрын

I hope he comes back soon! I really love his insight and honesty!

i didnt know heejun han is THIS funny holy DIVE WE NEED MORE OF HIM!!!!

peniel's spilling the tea everyone in a smooth way and i was like you lit bruhh 🔥🔥

4:47 Heejun : Peniel listen to your guest 😶 😂😂 i love his energy and i will be his fan from now on

heejun knows so much about the industry, i really enjoyed listening to him talking everything so well

A lot of new kpop fans try to descredit BIGBANG impact on kpop but they're indeed your idols's idols. all second gen groups are but BIGBANG have always had their own destictinve music and concept and never followed trends, they set them.

@duendea2863

3 жыл бұрын

FACTS!!! THANK UU! BIGBANG was the first kpop group I got into (now im a VIP and an ikonic so love the profile pic btw) and they started so many trends i wish every kpop fan new what they did, like here's some stuff i can think of: - first group to start writing and producing their own music - they were the first group to dye their hair all sorts of colours - they started the light stick - started mini-albums - started multiple song promotions on music/award shows - 1st kpop large scale world tour - GD did the FIRST ending fairy message in 2009 (so like it was not idols who did it this year that started it, BIGBANG did it long ago. ngl my friends and i found it kind of annoying that ppl thought it was other idols who started it this year nawww girly GD did that in 2009) - 1st group where both the group AND individual members won MULTIPLE daesangs - 1st to win international award (MTVE) - 1st to have an advertisement song be a national hit (lollipop) - 1st idol group to have rap line (multiple rappers in group. Before them the rapper in the group was just someone who can't sing which is the reason why idol rappers weren't considered true rappers. BIGBANG introduced the hiphop culture to the idol sector) and literally 1000 more... so new and all kpop fans need to give BIGBANG the credit they deserve, they really helped bring kpop where it is today whether you like it or not.

@SessionSakic

3 жыл бұрын

@@duendea2863 Were they also first Kpop to headline at Coachella as well? They were with Epik High I believe.

@jennifernguyen3877

3 жыл бұрын

The first ever kpop idol I listened to was BoA, who was before Big Bang's time -shrug-

@NurulAini-eu4rk

3 жыл бұрын

Bigbang is HUGE....still indeed...I dun fancy kpop cause I root for k hip hop more but bigbang is the first kpop I root n it's 10 years...

@soboksobok9488

3 жыл бұрын

No one's disregarding BIGBANG's impact. It's just that VIPs can't handle the fact that BTS had more impact on the kpop industry than any other groups before them. Literally every 4th gen groups are BTS stans.

This ep is criminally underrated. Please invite him back. He's the only guest to be this real.

i never stop being fascinated with ashley's back stories. the more i learn about her the more i like her😍 20:30 and i really am proud of how much hard work she put in and how far it has gotten her

This was hands down one of the best get real podcast EVER. Heejun NEEDS to come back

Okay, I observed and think that Peniel always put on headphones just to play with the cords 😁

I didn't even realize THIS was the season finale 😭❤️ I'm going to miss you so much

@Dodohulahoop757

3 жыл бұрын

Wait… this doesn’t mean the end of the podcast right?

@tinanana46

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dodohulahoop757 no, they're just taking a well deserved break

This is a very good content. As a fan of K-Pop since 2009, the development of K-Pop is very interesting to be followed because there are so many things to dive into like the music producing as well as the business. Understanding the pitfall of the industry should make us aware that there are so many things for fans to understand and more wise to see what's reflected on the screen.

32:30 "They're just like, eat leaves." 🤣 🤣 🤣

Ok, I take "part two" as a promise

Seeing the current music trends, what some big companies targeting and the split between korean chart and what blow up with i-fans these days, I really agree with Heejun about us listeners vs korean listeners. us listeners are really trained to listen to the music while korean listeners are trained to sing along.

I feel like the groups that I like I got into them because of how genuine they are, companies need to start letting their groups breathe and be themselves, that's what fans connect to and what I think has attracted most fans for famous groups

Just by the title it’s starting to get interesting.

Heejun was such a great guest! I hope he comes back soon! It's great to see his personality like this since I don't really watch ASC

23:07 I really agree with han heejun .I have a huge respect for all kpop idols they doing alot hardwork as compare to pop stars.kpop idol deserve so much 💚💚💚

Is this the Heejun that cracked me up in American Idol? Like the Philip Philips buddy? OMG 🤩

@gbsqrd2787

3 жыл бұрын

This is the one!

@QuaintMelissaK

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Heejun keeps in contact with Phillip.

I spent whole day watching american idol vids of Heejun the other day 😆

This is my favorite episode so far because it actually lives up to the name. And please, I don't mean disrespect by saying that because I know that BM and Peniel can't be too real since they're still active in the industry. I just felt all three were a bit more open in this episode compared in the past, which is probably because of Heejun being so active and vocal about his feelings.

I want them to talk more about this topic with Heejun! It's really nice to hear the differences on how the States and Korea handle their artists.. Heejun is a great guest! I'd love him to be on another episode with pH-1! I wish you can do a program later where all hosts and former hosts (Jae, Jamie, Alexa, Tablo, etc.) could be together. I'd love to see Dive family having fun and playing games together. Ps. I'm still waiting for Hwaiting Season 2! Hidden KARD and avid listener from the Philippines ❤️

@39:40 when Peniel can’t say much about the subject so he has to start playing with the headphone cord lol😂😂😂

"I feel like (it's justified for us) to talk about the reality of KPOP." "We're about to go to dark places then."

didn't know who this guy was. watched a few clips of him on American idol and loved how funny he was/ but he's really serious and kinda dark now. i dunno. i know it must've been hard for him, but I'm happy that he has accomplished a lot! been on kpop star, writing songs for other artists, writing a book and even movie script. more power to you, hope everything is super successful

49:51 Not at heejun not knowingly dissing sm ent lmao

i saw it in peniel's IG story and went to youtube right away after spotify ❤❤

That's a great analysis of KARD's popularity internationally compared to Korea!

Finally someone talked about gangs and the mafia, I thought it was just internet talk

When heejun switches to korean, I gotta pay extra attention to pick up stuff. It's kinda fun. I like dis.

One of the best episodes of this podcast. The chemistry and the discussion was on point!

I love that the guest sort of became the facilitator of this podcast and started interviewing ashley, bm, and pen. He should be in more episodes, i like his vibes.

I feel so sad when BM talks about his weight.

@navi3430

3 жыл бұрын

Same :(

There's so much going behind the "perfect" performance, hearing this makes me have huge respect for those idols! grabeee

This is the most honest and truthful podcast about kpop which you'll never find on kshows ever! Maybe because these guys have an American mindset and don't have to save face or always have to put up a nice front.

this was the best episode of the podcast! He knew very well how to lead the conversation and didn't have an awkward moment... Thank you ✨💜

Young k needs to be on the show

@layloo5244

2 жыл бұрын

He has. Have u not seen?

Love heejun’s konglish 😂 it’s so natural and relatable cause that’s how I be speaking with my friends too hahaha

Yow guys, you gotta check out Heejun's American Idol journey haha especially his off stage he really was a savage, witty, funny guy! He made American Idol Season 11 so much fun coz he was savage AF--check those vids of him and that cowboy dude hahaha We need more Heejun, Diane! I wanna see him being more savage lol

When peniel said ‘sprinkles here and there’ my mind flashed back to the episode with jamie 🤣✨

YEEES I DEFINETLY WANT PART 2 I wanna know more about your struggles and hard times you guys have been through in kpop also, Heejun is such a cool guy i've seen him on asc but i didnt know he was that fun, bring him back!

Heejun, of Queens NYC, on an English-language podcast and on English-language Arirang TV: just speaks Korean half the time LOL

I wanna say congrats to BM's solo music. He's so awesome. o/

I love your sincerity. this really became my favorite podcast

This was a really interesting and informative episode.

I love the Get Real podcast videos, and this was a fascinating episode. Please add eng subs for the Korean phrases. Thanks.

I love this episode. Heejun blatantly speaks the truth and I'm here for it. Great!

This topic is soooooooooo interesting! definitely needed a part 2!

Yaassss totally here for the realnesss of this episode, super refreshing to hear/watch✨

Omg yes please a part 2! This was really refreshing :)

People who called Kpop Idols puppets of their companies and Plastic had no idea what they have been through behind the scene. Thank you Dive Studios and Get Real Podcast for brought this topic up.😊😊

this is definitely one of my favorite episode, it's always so interesting getting these insights about the k-pop industry that aren't always on the news. can we get more episode with Heejun plssssss

This episode was FANTASTIC. Great job guys. This was my first episode.

BM: Oh boys, she likes jail boys had me rofl hahahahahhaa

the insight and perspective heejun gave is so interesting... definitely one of my favourite episodes now

Not them putting that commercial after BM mentioned the Mafia to inning companies 😂😂 smooth DIVE!

Thank you for diving into this topic! It's so interesting hearing about all the sides of the k-pop industry.

peniel is truly built different because even if he faces adversities, he’s always having fun 😭😭

I've been looking for this guy, Han Hee Jun. Finally!

Omg Heejuun!! You were one of my absolute faves in that season!! Nice to see you around ✨

This was such a good episode omg I learned so much I really hope they have Han Heejun back bc they had great chemistry and great conversations… The part about the weight is heartbreaking like the pressure to look a certain way and when they talked about starving themselves… it’s not healthy and incredibly dangerous. I bet a bunch of idols developed eating disorders bc of it smh it breaks my heart

I thought heejun felt like the host but when he said he's a radio dj. Okay. That explains it

Thanks for the episode and topic - so many insights! Previous topics have been a little unexciting or err to boring side but this episode was good thank you

He's the host of ASC with Jamie!!

I really want to take this episode and give it listen to KPOP haters, especially those who said that we only like them for the face! Like, the respect we have for our idols is beyond that, you know.

Watched getreal since day 1 and I always enjoy ph-1 being a repetitive guest: but I am adding Han HeeJun to the list :))

Please bring Heejun back for another Episode

The topic is very interesting because I don't know many about KPOP industry. That's very insightful for me. Thank you GET REAL 🙌✨

Heejun is such a character I love him!

this whole episode really explains why a lot of good older groups didn't last

I love this episode so much !!!!!! Love to hear more about K-pop industry

Always a great listen/watch! Heejun keeping it real!

Yes we love this we need this WE WANT THIS

31:29 was the hair-pulling thing a cube female trainee tradition?😄the first i'd ever heard of it was when sistar's soyou, who was a cube trainee and was supposed to debut with 4minute, revealed this trick was sometimes necessary to pass their weigh-ins.

@layloo5244

2 жыл бұрын

Ive honestly heard many other girlgroups say this as well. They would do anything to weigh a little less on the scales