Yay a NEW Map Men video! We love watching Map Men & learning new, interesting British stuff! This episode is full of interesting & shocking facts about what REALLY makes a British city a city? Spoiler, it's likely not what you think! Why is Reading, a massive settlement of 170,000 people, NOT a city, while the tiny Welsh village of St David's IS a city? Is it something to do with cathedrals? Or universities? Or is it a surprisingly simple answer which only raises more questions about how city status works in the UK? The United Kingdom certainly has a different approach to making cities than the USA and other countries. Join us for educational fun and shenanigans. We know you'll enjoy this one! Thank you SO much for watching! If you enjoy our content, please consider subscribing to our channel, it is the BEST way to support our channel and it's FREE! Also, please click the Like button. Thank you for your support!

@thetruthhurts7675

10 ай бұрын

They are using a technicality here. Bath was declared a city by the first Queen Elizabeth, thus technically it has a Royal Charter. Every city in the UK has either a Cathedral, or a Royal Charter. Yes just building a cathedral doesn't make the place a city. City status can now only be confirmed by the sitting Monarch!!

@janolaful

10 ай бұрын

Natasha dud you know dep leopard drummer Rick Allen lost his left arm in a accident.

@aaronmicalowe

10 ай бұрын

It used to be that to be a city you had to have a cathedral, but the definition has changed. For example, The City of Elgin, which I grew up in, has a burnt out cathedral that was bombed during WW2. Nothing in the rules said the cathedral had to be complete. Elgin is still called The City of Elgin, and has a population of about 25,000 people, but it lost its city status when the term city got redefined.

@danielgardecki1046

9 ай бұрын

10:07 *Bank of Dave* (2023) which starred *Sheffield* band *Def Leppard* was partly filmed in *Bradford* the world's first UNESCO City of Film* and *UK City of Culture,* specifically in the *Council Chambers* (Burnley Town Hall) and *Old Court* (Burnley Magistrates Court) in *Bradford City Hall.*

@philiprowney

3 ай бұрын

The shortest answer to what does a city have in England. A. A royal charter. Ely is down the road and more than 10% smaller than my town. NB Ely was one of the most important towns in the area and used for royal excise collection therefore got it's charter quite early. [ c. 10 October 1189 ]

To make it even crazier, Colchester was only officially added to the list of cities in 2022, despite having been the first founded city and capital of Britain in AD49. It ceased to be classified as one some time in the Middle Ages. So technically its now Britain's oldest city 😮

@titanuranus3095

10 ай бұрын

They should put that on the sign "Englands oldest city, since 2022"

@SparkAttack86

10 ай бұрын

@@titanuranus3095 I'd suggest 'Britain's oldest and newest city' that would confuse people. Then again, it won't be the newest for too long. It will, however, still validly claim to be the first ever British city.

I definitely think Reading should use the fact they keep not being made a city in any marketing they have.

@antonycharnock2993

10 ай бұрын

Welcome to Reading. Still not a city since 978AD

@vcrossCelticfc

10 ай бұрын

To be a city it needs to have a cathedral.

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

@vcross3167 Wrong! Did you watch the video??

@AgentOccam

10 ай бұрын

Good call. They could market themselves as *Reading* : "The Biggest Town in the World".

@AgentOccam

10 ай бұрын

*Reading* : "A town BIGGER than the City of London." *Reading* :" Lot's of people think we're a city; we're not. We're just awesome." *Reading* : "Making us a city would make us TOO perfect." *Reading* : "A place with more people than the city of St Davids, because people actually want to live here."

Map Men is one of the most humorous and informative videos on KZread.

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree!

Wells Cathedral is mind blowing, and St David's is just beautiful

@AndrewJLeslie

10 ай бұрын

The tourism to St David's overwhelms the town. Coaches drop off the emmets at a turning point near the cathedral, drive out of town and come back a couple of hours later. I've not seen so many Japanese tourists except, perhaps, in Windsor.

@BeckyPoleninja

10 ай бұрын

@@AndrewJLeslie or at Bicester Village lol

@patriciarowland2124

10 ай бұрын

​@@BeckyPoleninja Not forgetting how they go round Bicester Village with their suitcases trundling along & looking for bargains

I was 100% taught in school that a cathedral is a key component for city status. I've never felt so lied to! XD

@140cabins

10 ай бұрын

I was taught that in school too, though as I had learned about it for myself I knew they were lying. Does you no good pointing it out, though. In particular, teachers would always say that St David's was a city because it had a cathedral. At the time, it wasn't. It was made a city after I'd left school. To be honest, it's hard to see why it was made a city except that everybody (wrongly) thought it already was, and it was just easier to make it official.

@coyotelong4349

10 ай бұрын

I mean, historically speaking, that’s accurate. So I wouldn’t feel lied to, if I were you It’s just that the criteria subtly evolved overtime from “cathedral seat” to “any settlement the monarch says is a city”

@forevercomputing

10 ай бұрын

Pluto is a planet was another lie

@140cabins

10 ай бұрын

@@forevercomputing Everybody knows Pluto is a dog.

@joelt874

10 ай бұрын

Yep same, British schools didn't even know, they obviously only recently went wild giving everywhere city status so maybe back then there was no reason to question that "fact"

I was working in Reading during the time the 2002 round of applications. Before any result had been announced, Reading remove all the traffic signs saying “Town Centre” and replaced them with ones saying “City Centre”. Then a few days later I was driving home when the news on the local radio station said that Reading had been ordered to take down the “City Centre” signs and put the “Town Centre” ones back up.

Greetings from sunny Reading, UK, (yes really). We’re not that bothered about this city thing, we’re a town and proud of it.

@nickyjones88

10 ай бұрын

It will always be a city in my heart 😂😢 I'm far more proud we're the only people in the world to call woodlice cheeselogs than becoming a city lol

@danguest1938

3 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more. Apart from the sunny bit. Haven't seen a ray of sun in reading in bloody ages

Cathedral City is a very popular brand of cheese, hence the cheese thing 😅

Apparently the reason Reading isn’t a city dates back to Queen Victoria. She was egged during a parade/tour through the town… this also is apparently why her statue commemorating her visit faces looking away from the town. I can’t remember how I came by that knowledge, so it could just be some local legend learned through family. The Royals probably have a long memory though.

You girls must be the most educated Anglophiles in America , always inquisitive always learning and presenting your findings to the world , well done keep up the great work on your channel and come visit us soon ...please love from the UK .

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!! ❤️

My home town of Guildford now has both Cathedral and a University. It is a rich commuter town for London, was always a market town. Guildford tried in 2000, 2002, and 2022. No luck!

I'm from the UK and watching this episode have learnt something. Thank you xx

Map Men have over 20 videos similar to this one, covering everything from where the North-South divide lies in England, to the totally bizarre border between India and Bangladesh (which truly is strange). Jay Foreman himself has 15 other map-related videos, and several more satirical ones. The two really are among the best as well as both entertaining and informative British KZreadrs today.

@lucyj8204

10 ай бұрын

Map Men don't make many videos, but every single one is gold.

@Catherine-mc8ql

10 ай бұрын

That’s really useful thanks I’ll watch them

I could be wrong, but I think what most people think of as London is _technically_ a collection of Boroughs (32 of them, to be precise - thanks Map Men!), whereas the _actual_ 'City of London' is actually just a tiny Borough in and of itself in the heart of London

@davidwallin7518

9 ай бұрын

The City of London is about 1 square mile, but it has 25 wards.

To quote Eddie Izzard speaking to an American audience. "I am from Europe, where history comes from"

I’m learning more about the UK and I live here!!!!! I genuinely thought it was due to having a Cathedral. I never thought more about it beyond that! Love the map men! So informative and funny too. A great way to learn. Thankyou Natasha and Debbie! I’m ebarassed to say I thought I was pretty clued up about the UK. Apparently not so! ( I hang my head in shame! ) I’m definitely going to watch video again, though to see their list .. very funny!!! 👏👏👏👏 x

@wullaballoo2642

10 ай бұрын

I think having a cathedral was true for a city in the past, not sure when the rules changed

@pedanticradiator1491

10 ай бұрын

@@wullaballoo2642 in the 19th century for England and Wales I think the cathedral rule never truly existed in Scotland and Ireland

Wow great video, opened my eyes & blew my socks off 😂😂😂😂😂 more map men plz ❤❤

Brilliant….. entertaining and funny, the list at the end is hilarious.

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

We went back & read all of it! Freaking hilarious 😂

Can’t wait!. We’ll be there . Love these types of videos. Always informative and entertaining.

I love watching the Natasha and Debbie show. When I am down you cheer me up. May your channel go from strength to strength. By the way the last night of the proms was on the BBC yesterday and the concert was astounding. Thank you for making the world a better place.

Missed the live strem😢but this was very informative and funny. Thanks❤

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hello Natasha & Debbie. Another great video. I live near Cardiff. The cathedral is in the suburbs called Llandaff. It’s a nice cathedral but not the biggest by any means. During WWII it did not escape the blitz, it was severely damaged when a mine fell and blew it’s roof off. Much further west is the lovely city of St Davids, a beautiful small place with a great cathedral. It could be the only city within a national park, the Pembrokeshire Coast National Park. The parks symbol is a Puffin.

That was fun! The list at the end was hilarious. Thanks again for all the hard work you put into making these videos! Sending you some kiwi love ♥

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thank you Heather!! ❤❤

@highpath4776

10 ай бұрын

@@TheNatashaDebbieShow Pangborne and Winnersh are suburbs of Reading

Oh Natasha and Debbie!! This was awesome. Will totally keep watching all these. Learning all about my birth country!!

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@Isleofskye

10 ай бұрын

Hi Anthea. When you say "Birth Country" are you,simply,stating a fact or,implying,you no longer live there,please?

@antheabrouwer3258

10 ай бұрын

@Isleofskye I was born in England but I live in Australia..

@Isleofskye

10 ай бұрын

@@antheabrouwer3258 Thanks very much for our reply , Anthea. I ash,as a Guy who has had 69 wonderful years living in Inner London(29 years) and Outer London for 40 years(since 1983) why good people, like yourself, no doubt choose to leave. Was it a combination of growing tired of England or the lure of Australia and its weather and outdoor life? Mind you, it was 33 Degrees yesterday and we have had our 5 hottest Summers in the last 10 years so the weather is "catching up" lol Admittedly,I am biased as I would not move 5 yards after 69 fablous years here and in a 245 Acre Park,yesterday,that "there was nowhere on earth that I would rather be". Have you been there long and is it what you expected,please?

Yes i am shocked, i always thought it was the cathedral thing.

Learn something new everyday, I knew about the Cathedrals but there was alot I didn't know, will watch again. Well done girlies very informative video again. See you Wednesday ❤👏👏👏👏

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

So growing up l thought l KNEW a city had a Cathedral, then a good few years ago l discovered that some cities didn’t have cathedrals. Then not that long ago l recall that the Queen was bestowing city status to selected places. BUT now l know all the reasons and details WHY cities are cities so thank you for another great show where l learned stuff and had fun doing it . 👍❤️

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Crazy isn't it??

Another great and informative video. I also like Debbie's t-shirt, I love Def Leppard.

Another highly amusing reaction show. I live in Marazion and I, prematurely, sent my friends and family 'City of Marazion' Christmas cards when we 'bid' for city status! 🤣

As a native of Cambridge, I did know the you don't need a cathedral to be a city. I now live in Bournemouth, we have a university and we are not a city. Cambridge also has a smaller population than Bournemouth.

There is the original' City of London' known as the Square Mile. It has the city walls built by the Romans. The Romans named London, Londinium. It has its own Lord Mayor and is mostly thought of as the financial centre of London. The Roman walls are still there. In medieval times being a city did mean somthing anyone given the Freedom of the City meant they could trade. The financial growth of the country went from Village economy to town economy to city economy and in the process a free trade economy. Now a global economy.

I live in a VILLAGE of 10600 people. We don't want to be a TOWN or a CITY. We enjoy being ignored by Government.

@user-sd3ik9rt6d

10 ай бұрын

It makes no difference

@malcolmhouston7932

10 ай бұрын

@@user-sd3ik9rt6d What? you watch this and you have no sense of humour?

@markwalker2627

10 ай бұрын

Where is this..?

@malcolmhouston7932

10 ай бұрын

@@markwalker2627 Duh, The video you are commenting on

The thing about cathedrals was something I was taught when I was young, and it was much later when I learned it was wrong.

Just to add to the confusion, there are now two cities called Bangor - the one in northwest Wales has a cathedral, but the one in eastern Northern Ireland doesn’t.

It's only in the last ten years that I learned that it wasn't about cathedrals. I've been to St David and I've seen bigger Motorway Service Stations :-( It's well worth pausing the list and reading it properly. It's pretty reaonable at first but then you start getting some really mad stuff. My favourite is 'synchronise car indicators'. Actually not difficult in these days of BlueTooth. I also liked that item 70 was 'ban the number 71' and this was followed by item 72 :-)

@memkiii

10 ай бұрын

How many Cathedrals are NOT in cities though? 16 from what I can find. While the number of Cities without Cathedrals is 18. Some cities are much older than the modern City status too. Not everything started with William the conqueror. Lincoln, York, Gloucester, for just a few Examples, have been cities since Roman times.

Fabulous video, Map Men are brilliant but more fun watching you two reacting to it, St Davids is a magical place, one of my favourite places on the planet. Well worth a visit if you can fit it in on your tour of the UK, St Davids Cathedral is also magnificent. Thank you for another brilliant Sunday morning video xx

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!! ❤️

London is a region, not a city. Made up of dozens of different boroughs that are very bad at working together, which Map Men probably didn't go into here cos their back catalogue goes really in depth.

@yeokat7802

10 ай бұрын

however there is a city of london. it the middle bit.

@sandrahughes8645

10 ай бұрын

Please don’t confuse us any more!!!! 😂

@freethrall

10 ай бұрын

Yes, but there is a City of London but it's a very small area within the region (along with the City of Westminster). Generally, when we talk about the city of London, we're referring to the region which, technically, isn't a city.

@johnperkins4611

10 ай бұрын

London is a war zone.

@stephenlee5929

10 ай бұрын

There is the City of London, but its not on the list, its a very strange place in English law, Map Men did a brief explanation of its status in their boroughs of London video. I think William 1 accepted that City of London was not subject to his rule.

That was really interesting and there were a lot of things I didn’t know, I probably watch it again. Really enjoyed that ❤️❤️

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you Roz!! ❤

Those guys are hilarious. Keep their videos coming. Great job girls!

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Jen!

Makes sense now! I live in Sunderland and was always confused why we don’t have a cathedral 😂

I’m British, I’m 42 years old. ALL my life I thought a city needed a Cathedral, to find out that “fact” is wrong……..I’m gobsmacked 😮🤯

Greater London is an urban agglomeration that has TWO cathedral cities at its heart - Westminster (the Abbey) and City of London (the financial centre which has St Paul’s). 🤷🏻‍♂️

@pedanticradiator1491

10 ай бұрын

Westminster Abbey was only a cathedral for a short period of time during the 16th century. There is the Roman Catholic of Cathedral of Westminster though. The London Borough of Southwark has both an Anglican and a Roman Catholic cathedral but is not a city

Another great video ladies, thoroughly enjoyed it. Love the T-shirt Debbie. The whole Hysteria album is the best Natasha, it's part of the soundtrack of my late teens 😊❤

While it is not quite as complicated as the differences between a city and a town my particular grumble is how a council can rename an area of their city, purely to increase or decrease the number of residents who live in a historically designated area. In my case I have lived in the same property since 1968, which was at that time was widely recognised as being within the suburb of Heaton, which was originally a small community named for its first owner Hea( OE) and the term for a settlement in the woods, so it was originally the settlement in the woods that was established by a man called Hea and his family. However due to the local government’s reorganisation of district boundaries aimed at creating equally sized communities for council and parliamentary seats, Heaton had a constituency amount of properties shaved off and shoehorned onto a newly created district called Toller named for the main road in the area which was once a toll road between Bradford and Keighley has very little community feeling as the Ward was constructed from the shaved off part’s of wards ranging between urban/industrial areas to suburban and agricultural/rural areas.

St. Davids very much used to be a city as far back as the 12th Century, and was a major pilgrimage desination throughout the Middle Ages. The city then declined when the country turned Protestant and pilgrimage dried up. Its decline meant that when reforms to municipal coroporations were signed into law in 1883, there was no incorporated government in St Davids to appeal for the city to retain city status. When it was reinstated in 1994 along with Armagh in Northern Ireland (also small at 16k inhabitants, but as small) it was in recognition of their “important Christian heritage and status as cities in the last century”. Also, because city status is given to the local authority, the entire surrounding area of St Davids, including rural fields and islands off the coast are considered to be technically within the city.

What is usually referred to collectively as 'London' is more properly the ceremonial county of 'Greater London,' which includes the tiny 'City of London' and the City of Westminster. Greater London consists of 32 boroughs, the 12 innermost comprising 'Inner London' and the rest 'Outer London'. Thus 'London' is not a City but a much larger conglomeration that includes two cities. Simples!

@bravo2966

10 ай бұрын

Also, it's a shithole.

I'm loving your reaction videos! Top tier every time! I'd love to see more reactions to Map Men videos, or Jay Foreman's other series Unfinished London.... Very interesting tidbits about our capital there.... Keep up the good work!

I'm from Stoke-on-Trent. I guess you could say this is a little fun fact: it's basically six towns that grouped together and formed a city

@CulturePhilter

10 ай бұрын

Six towns in a trench coat.

I live in Milton Keynes (10 mins drive to Bletchley Park). It was a town but became a City last year

Another great video 😊

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thank you 🤗

Wow what a funny video thank you ladies x

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!!

@Isleofskye

10 ай бұрын

These 2 brilliant Guys do a whole series of videos about London and England and then Britain,in general. Jay ,the Guy on our right, hilariously, explained his absence for 2 years or so by saying he helped create one of these and then, lovingly,held up his Baby Son to the camera.😀

That was a great video and very informative in an amusing way, I didn’t realise the Monarch gave city status,,

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Jay Forman has a video on why London doesn't have Trams, it's really good

@markwalker2627

10 ай бұрын

Er Croydon calling....

Perth, in Scotland, also lost its city status because they couldn’t find proof of royal consent; many locals just kept referring to it as the “fair city” until Queen Elizabeth finally caught up.

Loved this, informative and funny, you guys have the BEST content :-) Happy Sunday to you both :-)

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! You too! ❤️

London is basically two cities that grew so big they joined up and just got called London. City of Westminster joined the City of London absorbed the surrounding areas and became London.

@Hugh_de_Mortimer

10 ай бұрын

There is a more interesting, conspiratorial, theory about how Greater London came by its name.

@countofdownable

10 ай бұрын

@@Hugh_de_Mortimer Do tell?

@Hugh_de_Mortimer

10 ай бұрын

@@countofdownable being as Greater London was built around the City of London, which is an enclave within the modern Greater London, some suggest that a naming conflict between the two would provide a degree of invisibility to the City and people would be less likely to question this separation and therefore better preserve the City's long-held privileges and not fall victim to a reform that would merge the two together. I can't recall who it was who told me this but it's certainly an interesting idea.

@Dead25m

10 ай бұрын

Would be funny if any city that grew big enough became a 'London'

@PhillipDavison-iy2gh

9 ай бұрын

City of London was original london bounded by walls with gates. Aldgate, Ludgate, Aldersgate. Moorgate, these are now basically where Businesses are situated Banks Insurance Co,at weekends quite as few people live there

Another amazing video by you two awesome ladies. Thanks for the mention in the video I knew you didn't have to have a university and cathedral as we don't have a cathedral but have a university and St Asaph the other way around.❤❤❤

Hi, I've recent came across your channel and have started subscribing. I really enjoyed watching your reaction to the Map Men video mainly because I had already seen it when they first posted it online. Watching again with you I actually picked up some bits that I had missed when I first watched it, such as their list at the end. It went past so quick I never realised how funny some of the items were. Jay Foreman, one of the Map Men, is also a stand-up comedian and makes a lot of silly / funny songs. I've seen him live a few times and he is extremely funny. It's worth have a look at some of his music videos.

I remember that when Prince Charles was invested as Prince of Wales in '69 he toured Wales and informed the bigwigs of Swansea that the Queen had asked him to tell them that she would be creating Swansea a city. Massive round of applause. Charles commented: 'So glad to hear that you approve.'

Educational, funny and beautiful!! Love you guys 😊

That was fun😂

My local town, Rochester (with 10thC cathedral) was a city until the late 90’s - it was combined with other towns to create a larger urban area. The council ‘forgot’ to renew its charter and this wasn’t discovered for 4 years when a new council assumed we still had a city. We haven’t.

@jwSN12

10 ай бұрын

That's fascinating! I didn't know that you had to renew it! Like car insurance! 😂

@liamblack2574

10 ай бұрын

I’m from rochester too! Lol

Ah, I mentioned St Davids in your Tenby video comments. Its less than an hour away from Tenby and nice to go with being in the area. There's a nice little 13 minute video on here "What to do in St Davids, Pembrokeshire" by Mac & Sarah just showcasing some highlights of the city and some nearby places to go

I'm sure the video will say this but in Britain traditionally a city was somewhere with a cathedral, no matter it's size. These days any large town seems to get city status.

@geoffpoole483

10 ай бұрын

Probably due to the power of the Church. These days there are bidding processes linked to major events like the Diamond and Platinum Jubilee celebrations. My home town of Ipswich makes unsuccessful bids on a regular basis. Southend was granted city status in the wake of the murder of its MP David Amess.

@katrinabryce

10 ай бұрын

Except Reading, which is the largest town in the country.

I gotta be honest, I'm absolutely loving your videos - I'm so sorry that when I first saw one of your avatars pop up in my timeline, I just wrote you off as a pair of teen air-heads. Your content is just brilliant - so funny, and so respectful. :)

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

We'll take the "teen" thing as a compliment! 😉 Glad you gave us a chance! Appreciate it!

I'm from Nottingham in the UK 🇬🇧

@johnd6487

10 ай бұрын

Lol.. me too! Well.. I'm South of the river, so Nottinghamshire. Can't believe Derby only became a city in my lifetime.

the map guys had the London Borough of Harrow my home town woow whhhoo on they map cool very funny an informative ,keep it up

It's worth looking at the City of London. It's about a square mile and has a wall built round it. Mostly financial institutions now with very few actual residents.

@barneylaurance1865

10 ай бұрын

And the only local government area in the UK where corporations get to vote as well as humans.

@pedanticradiator1491

10 ай бұрын

The wall around the City of London was demolished centuries ago

Love your channel ❤

Brilliant video and reaction ❤

We have two Cathedrals in Norwich . We used also have a pub for each day and church for each week of the the year.

very interesting fun.

For many of us from Reading, the lack of city status is a minor irritation. Quite why other towns have been awarded in preference to Reading is baffling but life goes on. The town is famous for it's prison, whose inmates included actor Stacy Keach, serial child murderer Amelia Dyer and playwright Oscar Wilde, who was imprisoned for being gay. Notable residents of the town have included Jane Austen, Kate Winslet, Natalie Dormer and Ricky Gervais. Catherine, Princess of Wales was born in Reading at the Royal Berkshire Hospital. King Henry I is also buried somewhere within the grounds of the ruined Abbey, and is now the only British monarch who's exact whereabouts are unknown.

@bravo2966

10 ай бұрын

If you change your name to Redding we'll talk. Until then it's too confusing for people.

@grantmason740

10 ай бұрын

@@bravo2966 I'm happy with the name my parents gave me, thank you all the same. As for my town, we like the spelling as it is- Reading. Just like the county we are situated in, Berkshire, with the first syllable pronounced Bark. Once you realise that the English language is made up of a whole set of rules that are being perpetually broken, it all makes perfect sense.

@bravo2966

10 ай бұрын

@@grantmason740 Mate if that wasn't blatantly obvious it was a tongue in cheek comment I don't know what to tell you.

@grantmason740

10 ай бұрын

@@bravo2966 I don't quite know how to break this to you but my response to you was most definitely tongue in cheek.

@bravo2966

10 ай бұрын

@@grantmason740 My response to your response was tongue in cheek.

I wish the map men would say which Bangor they are talking about, because the Bangor in Gwynedd is a city and it certainly does have a cathedral.

@robertgriffith8857

10 ай бұрын

@Cleow33: I think they are referring to Bangor North Wales because they list it in the number of Welsh cities. I agree with you that Bangor has one of the oldest cathedrals in Wales and has been a city for many years as also has St Asaph.

Great video ladies - your reactions are always interesting to see. However, could you please include a link in the description to the original videos as I often like to re-watch them for the information and would like to show some love for the original creators (I know I can go and find them, but I’m easily distracted going down the KZread rabbit hole 😂)

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

With large channels like Jay Foreman we don't post links because almost everyone knows their videos

I lived in Rochester from August ‘97 to April ‘99, definitely remember being confused about the city/not city thing. The Dickens festival they have there was fun.

I'm in my 70s & I was told at school, in books etc. that a city had to have a Cathedral to be a city. Enjoy your videos & thanks for sharing.

@jamessouth3808

10 ай бұрын

I remember Southend was given city status in honour of David Amess MP who was murdered a few years ago

hi ladies i am new to the channel i want to say a big thankyou to your reaction of Australia as i am australian myself sorry i cant be with you i have to go up to my brothers place for sunday night dinner i will give a review of this video later enjoy the rest of your day all the very best

Learned a lot from this one, London not being a city by technicality but there is a city of London that's not the city itself makes perfect sense. I think? Never heard of the channel but I'll go down the rabbit hole, loved the video. Except their stance on ice cream vans.... Anyway, I'll check out your video on their take regarding counties. My partner is from Yorkshire and the sun relvolves around it apparently so I'm hoping it technically doesn't exist due a paperwork issue.

@timford544

10 ай бұрын

They're great and well worth watching. Your partner is correct btw

That completely got me with the working class pictures of those kids in Birmingham.. at that time it was the richest country on Earth, .Nowadays we have got so many talking about white entitlement..yeah ok..starved..used as cannon fodder, sent to Australia as convicts ...kept on the breadline at home..probably because they were scared there would be a revolution like the rest of European countries that rebelled if they didn't come down hard on them?..there are so many things good about the UK..but the class system,?..my Dad was in WW2 in the pacific on HMS Formidamable aircraft carrier and saw action..and my grandfather in France in WW1, so I think I am entitled to say what I feel

@RabbitTeaPot

10 ай бұрын

1- it’s “privilege” not “entitlement” though I disagree with either assertion being a thing 2- Birmingham wasn’t a country nor “the richest on earth”. Where you got that idea, even if you’re talking about the UK is beyond me. 3- this is a video about city status, not about race politics, so why you felt the need to waffle on about events and actions YOU had no part in (your grandfather, father…what did YOU do?) to justify something “say what I feel” that’s never been under threat, is beyond me.

Happy to see my home city of St Albans on your channel!

I love you both such a lovely couple and so much information I don’t even know about my own country

@TheNatashaDebbieShow

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much ♥️♥️

I live in Northampton, East Midlands, we used to be the capital in 913 under Danelaw. In the English Civil war in 17th Century we unfortunately sided with Parliament (dont blame me, I wasnt there!) In 1611, Charles II was so annoyed with us going against his dad Charles 1st, he tore down our walls and declared we would never be a city. To this day, we are still a town, a huge great sprawling town, WITH a cathedral, but no city status for us 😊

@ThisWontEndWell

10 ай бұрын

With the two places you hate the most Leicester and Milton Keynes both cities.

@Isleofskye

10 ай бұрын

Hi. I'm a 69-year-old Londoner and Northampton was, always,the one place that I, consistently, misplaced. It just seems strange that Northampton is in The East Midlands. lol

@MaxineSmith027

10 ай бұрын

@@ThisWontEndWell hate? Why would I hate those places? Odd comment.

@MaxineSmith027

10 ай бұрын

@@Isleofskye yup, it certainly is. I love my town, its had its ups and downs over the years but still a lovely place to live 🙂

@Uk5haky

10 ай бұрын

Umm , 17th century you mean.

My hometown (Dudley) did apply for city status in 2022 - we have neighbouring cities of Birmingham and Wolverhampton, but we were probably just as much at the forefront of the Industrial Revolution as Birmingham was. We have a castle which is surrounded by a zoo, we have a 'Living Museum' (think you've reacted to it before) and we're probably what people think of when they hear 'Black Country'. Our Metropolitan Borough spreads pretty wide too. In terms of famous people, Sir Lenny Henry (comedian and actor, was one of the real driving forces behind 'Comic Relief') is the one who most people would have heard of, but the football manager Sam Allardyce grew up here as well.

I grew up being told it was only cathedrals that made a city a city. Incidentally St David's became a city because it had a cathedral but the old rules didn't apply to Wales so that change was making up for a past injustice.

Did always think it was a Cathedral, which used to be the case....but a great video❤

Its Ange Loved to see that both Perth and Stirling have city status as they have namesakes here in Western Australia

Haha, the Lord Salisbury image has ‘Salisbury’ in the Sainsbury’s type font.

So much fun which helps retention ❤😂

Currently watching this on the toilet at 11pm with really bad diarrhoea, greetings from the Cotswolds

THINKING, OF THE BOTH OF YOU ON THIS SAD DAY.. AND ALL AMERICANS. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.❤

You may or may not have noticed that the picture of Lord Salisbury had his name shown in the style of Sainsbury's Supermarket logo!

I live in rochester…. It USED to be a city but lost its status after someone forgot to resubmit the paperwork. Can’t believe they went into this in the video

Thanks guys this was fun😅 😁👏

love you guys, and love map men lol

Now this looks interesting 🤔❤️‍🩹

In Australia apparently it's all down to maths: Cities are commonly defined by measures of density, available amenities and population size. To define a major city the ABS uses a threshold of 100,000 residents congregated around an urban centre, in which dwelling density exceeds 45/km2 and/or population density is above 200/km2."

@Chris-mf1rm

10 ай бұрын

That’s far too logical for us here in Blighty. We don’t do regularity.

I live in Cornwall in the UK and our only city is Truro which is no bigger than a large town but it does have a cathedral but now I'm wondering if it really is a city as I've always thought.

@memkiii

10 ай бұрын

Yes, it is a County Seat, & City, and has been since 1876, but not because of the Cathedral, which is "modern Gothic Revival, only started in 1880, (not medieval), and finished in 1910, but because it was granted a Diocese status and a Bishop.

@alanhilton7336caradventure

10 ай бұрын

@@memkiii thanks that was really informative.😊

Cities usually; have a CofE cathedral, are the County Town & are the administrative center for the county, But Not Always. What they really need is (fanfare please) a Royal Charter.