Happy Birthday Dr. Ferguson! Having crossed the same threshold 18 months ago, 60 truly is the new 50. You’re an inspiration to us all on many levels. Keep fighting the good fight! 🙏

Just build the wall and drastically reduce legal immigration. In the Middle of the 20th Century we had no net migration until 1965. America is addicted to immigrant labor and it is not going to end well if this addiction continues.

Another crucial problem is that the majority of today's immigrants legal or illegal comes from non-christian non-democratic societies, from societies where the ideology of anti-Americanism prevails. I'd like to know what is the percentage of Muslim, Asian, African and Latin American immigrants in the total pool of newcomers, the rate of their contribution into American economy and culture. It would be great to compare these numbers with the contribution of the immigrants of the past. I.e. analysis of the immigrants effectiveness. On the other subject: professors of Muslim and non-Muslim provenance who propagate anti-American, antisemitic ideology among American students should be, in my view, immediately fired from the universities teaching positions. Also, once we talk about higher education: in my view, the federal law must prohibit foreign funds contributions from the hostile regimes (Qatar, China, Russia, Iran). Our higher education is being sold out to a higher bid regardless of what ideology is channeled by those contributors.

@saimbhat6243

16 күн бұрын

Boohoo!!! What goes with freedom of religion and freedom of speech and freedom of conscience? And what about america not doing dirty tricks in middle east and asia and thus has no need to "tolerate" the orientals? You want to dominate every part of the world, yet you want nothing to do with "them". Go into isolationism as far as your policies in middle east and asia are concerned, and just close the gates and stop all the pretensions as being the ideal bleeding heart daddy of the world and believe me you were not welcome there to begin with. Be real MAGA.

@Mimicry161

14 күн бұрын

Absolutely agreed. We could also forcibly deport Americans that are not effective citizens (low education, low income, unemployed, SAHMs), and take in more legal immigrants to take their place in America. I also liked your point about professors, and I think we should extent it to include Anti-Russian and Anti-Chinese or any kind of hate speech. We live in a peaceful society based on Christian values and we can't have any hate like that leaking in and disturbing that.

@jamesj9537

12 күн бұрын

What in God’s name are you blathering on about? Get out in the real world and talk to people.

How about distinguishing first between legal and illegal immigration?! Also, scolding the White House various administrations for disregarding the immigration laws?!

@Notthatguyjustsomeguy

15 күн бұрын

How about watching the video before commenting?!?!?!

@TheVeritas2100

15 күн бұрын

***(BIDEN) White House various administrations for disregard the immigration laws?!**** HELLO the DimokRats want to DESTROY the American Republic, the American Experiment where the INDIVIDUALS is FREE ! ( guarranteed by the U.S. Constitution)

@jbmsamba

13 күн бұрын

Which used to be the biggest strength of the Canadian system over the American mess. I saw 5 minutes and stopped to vomit.

Only show on KZread I never miss.

It's so nice to hear people who disagree, talk and put there cases forward without falling into a heated argument. Thank you for providing this.

Theres already too many citizens that cant get those h1b jobs. Cochran lives in a bubble

My favorite KZread program.

4:26 Here's an idea from a big thinker in Texas about we just closed the border and then think about it for a few years

Happy birthday Niall, what a joy to listen to your podcasts and read your brilliant books . Thank you 😊

Will you talk about crime? Law enforcement?

@joshuap9580

16 күн бұрын

in what regard? there is no correlation between immigrants and crime. most immigrants try to avoid the justice system so they wont get deported!

The birthday wishes for Niall were a very touching end to this episode, loved it

Will you discuss our college graduates not getting jobs that visa workers get?

@jesuslovesaves2682

15 күн бұрын

What about people not getting into college (or their preferred college) because pressure from international students push them out? Or US students not getting scholarships due to it going to an international student? It is interesting how John made is sound like legal immigration isn't possible. Yet I know many people here working, buying homes, raising a family (friends of my children and other family) who are here on visas and have been here for a long time. Some are on visas and others are now citizens one way or another.

@justinflannery8671

13 күн бұрын

I can tell you the likely thrust of John’s response; there aren’t a fixed number of jobs. Plus with the unemployment rate below 4%, I’m sure there are plenty of areas where a college education is a requirement and employers are struggling to fill vacancies.

The story of human kind is a story of movement, migration, and immigration. The notion of nation states - the premise of the argument- is a recent phenomenon. I came here from India at the age of 10 along with three younger siblings. Two of us served in the US Army and went on to become successful lawyers. The other two are NYPD cops. My dad was a cab driver and we never accepted a dollar of public assistance. You’re painting with a very broad brush.

@timthetiny7538

8 күн бұрын

Anecdotes aren't data. Maybe your law degree should have included a stats class.

@petercollingwood522

6 күн бұрын

The story of human kind is a very broad brush.

You all seem to gloss over the fact that a political party can funnel new comers to states to adjust the population to influence voting strength.

@Notthatguyjustsomeguy

15 күн бұрын

Except they literally talk about that exact point.

@kennethyoung2221

14 күн бұрын

The people on the panel are not expected to do any homework before the discussion. And notice VDH was not invited to the party.

At first I preferred HR, but over time Cochrane has shown his worth across a whole host of topics. So glad they are still doing this show.

Another great show! Always thought-provoking. Liked John Cochran’s comment about us having an ‘assimilation’ problem vs an immigration issue. Middle East discussion sobering but I suppose it’s ‘ever thus’. Happy Birthday, Niall Ferguson!

@golfbulldog

6 күн бұрын

You think that all immigrants are equally assimilatable?

Navigating social security can feel like traversing a complex maze, doesn't it? It's essential to have a guide.

Will you discuss culture to immigration

@woodrow60

15 күн бұрын

I believe that’s the assimilation problem. People from some cultures will assimilate into western countries more effectively than people from certain other cultures. The west needs to discriminate again.

The problem not discussed is limiting ideological corruption amongst politicians. Their focus should be on establishing policies that are best for the citizens already living here, best for America. Allowing 14 million unvetted migrants to roam around the country at will without a job is NOT in my best interest, nor my neighbor’s best interest. It only serves the interests of politicians who enrich themselves from doing the bidding of Soros.

John Cochran just coming in hot and summing up the problems perfectly. Preach brother. Neil said “John” and he went off! Fuck yes

The immigration discussion should happen again, but with VDH in the mix.

Enforce the law. If the citizenry are convinced that existing immigration law must be changed, change it using Constitutional methods. Doing otherwise encourages moral hazard.

Amazing how these three guys forget most people are not wealthy like they are. Sitting in a privileged position sure puts blinders on other wise intelligent men.

@simonnilsson5356

15 күн бұрын

Can you be more specific?

3 “conservative” white guys advocating for more immigration. I love these guys! Cochrane articulates a first principles thinker. Start with what is right legally and morally, then address the root cause, then think about solutions. When democrats and republicans agree on restricting legal immigration, one should be suspect. I know I’ve lost jobs to H1B holders but that means I need to work harder/smarter. No hard feelings.

Absolutely my favourite KZread commentary. Well done all of you - and Happy Birthday Niall !

Happy birthday, Neil! Many happy returns!

Special guest. Very rare, nuanced arguments put forward. Warm wishes, gents, and humble gratitude.

Niall Furguson, on behalf of a few fans of yours among an academic community in a country that sees you as a subversive force, happy birthday and live looong!

Happy birthday, Niall!!!

A marvelous discussion by all, and with answers to many major questions provided as ideas from which to generate even more. All it takes to answer any questions posed is a bit of research on any computer, and devoting the time necessary to assimilate the additiional information provided. Well done guys!

Bagpipe Happy Birthday!! Cherry on the top. Wonderful show with some of my favorite people (including birthday well wishers)! Looking forward to another decade of inspiring conversations! Thank you!

So happy that you 3 (and other guests) get along so well. Happy Birthday, Niall (from another Neal)!

The bag pipes at the end! Well done.

Happy birthday Niall! Thank you to the team. Insightful and enlightening.

Happy belated birthday, Nial. I’ve come to enjoy each episode of Good Fellows because I learn something each time, and I love hearing topics being discussed in a thoughtful and passionate way. Well, that and for the occasional comedy of the group not taking themselves too seriously. Keep the hits coming, fellas!

John’s insights about 1/3 of the way through are on point!

Happy belated birthday Niall!

Happy birthday, Niall!

Happy Birthday Niall... I've read so many of your books I feel I can call you by your first name... I loved the Happy Birthday on the Bag Pipes, I was in Normandy on June 6, 2007 and two French Policeman armed with Bag Pipes played Happy Birthday to me at Bénouville Bridge (AKA Pegasus Bridge) in France. Since then I have been very partial to the Pipes a very fond memory. So, all the Best Wishes on your Birthday and for you to finish Volume 3 of Kissinger... you are truly a Good Fellow!

The speaker was absolutely not clear in what he wanted to say. Dare I say it sounded snobby. Wish he discussed some actual policies about legal immigration

Happy 60th Niall Ferguson

John Cochrane asserts that migrant workers don't negatively affect the welfare of our own working poor. Where has he provided the numbers to back up that assertion?

Happy birthday to my favorite historian!

🎉🎉 happy birthday Niall 🎉🎉

As a Canadian I would agree with the analysis of Canada under Harper, to a degree. As I understand it the rule of thumb for years was immigration at 1% of the population per year, around 400k. That certainly has been exceeded in the last two years. There is also a problem with foreign student admissions, to the point of diploma mills popping up to exploit students. It didn't help that some of the provinces capped tuition, encouraging universities to depend heavily on foreign students and their unlimited fees. Both groups are adding to an overheated housing market as was pointed out.

Happy birthday Neil from the old country where it has been a spectacularly bad week for the SNP, even by their recent standards. There's a birthday present.

Happy Birthday Niall! The age my Dad passed a few months into retirement. I pray the lot of you many years beyond and maybe one day be the humble fellas. Anyway, good discussion blessing to guy been praying for you guys. I definitely learn some thing from guys and appreciate you even when we disagree, maybe at times more so there. Maranatha

Gentleman thank you, another brilliant talk on current affairs.

So on point when they talked about Stephen Harper's government and their immigration policy being great 👍 Many Canadians will agree!

Thanks to Politicians….US is done !!! Feel bad but it is the truth

Happy birthday !! Neil Ferguson !! What a historian !!

if the senate bill had passed so we could process asylum claims in 6 months rather than 3 years a major part of the problem would have been resolved

Good fellows is one of Hoover’s best media contributions to thinking in society at large. It needs more views. Great to see complaints in the comment section… it must be working.

Congrats Niall Happy Birthday! Loved the messages, you’ve had quite an impact to many of us in the wild too, long may that continue.

It is great to have smart people explore important issues.

Happy birthday Nial😃👍🎂🥂

Happy birthday Mr Ferguson

Happy Birthday Dr. Ferguson! I was surprised you are now 60... you look much younger.

I agree with Reihan that if the GOP embraced Latin American immigrants and part of Asian they would find more support and could reframe this discussion away from the Democrat narrative. I see more common ground there is realized.

Happy Birthday Niall. See your wife describe you in her eyes says it all. Have a good next 60 years.

Happy Birthday Niall Ferguson. I too am an April 18er❤

Happy Birthday, Young Man!

Thank you. Thank you for the rational, productive and enlightened discussion about immigration. I LOVE what you guys are doing for the Country!

Happy birthday sir enjoy thank you for making me feel More intelligent watching your KZread videos and 21 books you are amazing teacher oxford Harvard and Stanford you are loved by everyone I am more smarter because of you looking forward for second valume of Henry Kissinger book 🎉🎉🎉

Love you Niall❤️❤️❤️. Happy birthday!!

A great episode, and happy birthday Dr. Niall Ferguson!

This was 10/10. Amazing to see Ayaan in this cameo as well. I just bought her book.

Happy birthday, Niall! Awesome greetings! I am gallous, because I am 62..already. GBU! .

Two points that i need to pick up on , the guy who said the English NHS couldn't manage without the foreign doctors and nurses WRONG , if you take away the 27 million Immigrants that have come to England in the last 30 years then the NHS would be managing perfectly fine . Plus the guy who said Immigrants DON'T hold down low wages WRONG everybody knows they do , plus how would he know they're not coming after his job are they now ..

I have been waiting on you “fellas”!

Speaking as a Canadian, I completely agree with your guest’s comments about Canadian immigration woes. Stephen Harper and governments before him had it right. Unfortunately our current government is incompetent in so many areas. Sadly, as a result, they have poisoned many Canadians attitudes towards immigration and blinded us to the benefits.

i'm no expert but i was just looking at the graph and the population is steadily rising, so how is it that the idea is that we don't have enough people or don't have enough workers adding up? i'm not really an anti immigration person, but it seems to me that there's this idea that there's all these new people and it's going to make everything better and yet the graph shows we're going up this all is so confusing i quit

@lawrencefrost9063

15 күн бұрын

Population growth, though increasing overall, varies in distribution and composition globally. Developed countries often rely on immigration for growth as native-born populations slow. Despite this growth, labor market imbalances persist due to mismatches in skills and demand. Aging populations compound these challenges, increasing retiree proportions relative to the working-age populace. Immigration, if managed effectively, can alleviate these imbalances by supplying skilled workers and fostering diversity and innovation. However, realizing these benefits hinges on sound immigration policies and societal acceptance. In summary, population growth's implications are complex, influenced by factors such as economic structures, immigration policies, and societal attitudes, necessitating a holistic approach for effective navigation.

@lawrencefrost9063

15 күн бұрын

I'm just kidding that was dumb. Islam will take over the world. The West is at peril.

@jacqquelinetackaberry5450

13 күн бұрын

Aren’t these the “elites” that got us into this disaster 🤑🤷‍♀️✌🏼

Best show on youtube !

Brilliant episode fertility and immigration needs a whole show so interesting! Israel is the series everyone watching Fauda has nothing! It’s gonna be hotter summer than House if the Dragon. And Finally but not least a very happy 60th Birthday Niall , I only wish I look as good as that when I’m 60 and can still Ski ⛷️! Hope you had fun celebrating!

Niall, Happy Birthday! From one sailor to another!

Canada's schools, Ontario to be specific, are overflowing with various families from different cultures. Special classes (e.g., learning dissabilities, behaviour) that we need most definitely - got cancelled due to funding!!! Newcomers, students with hardly any english language skills, end up in existing classes floating about. Again, there is no funding for extra support.That is the reality.

And Happy 60th Birthday, Dr Niall Ferguson! Oldfellows. Deadfellows. Thanks for the chuckles. 😊

Left leaning John drives me crazy… “let in construction workers to build their own houses is ridiculous

The problem with islam is apparently that we haven't built enough houses for it. Thank you mr Cochrane - I think I'll use my own judgement on this one.

I could be doing something serious but I'm here...

"Plenty of room". We do have alot of room still and we obviously need to build more housing. We need that now for the current population. That said, im not particularly interested in seeing the country built up to capacity with housing, businesses, etc.

Why not require immigrants to be sponsored by a U.S. citizen? The sponsor would be legally and financially responsible for the immigrant's behavior and welfare, until the immigrant is granted citizenship. Same with migrant workers. Each migrant worker requires a U.S. citizen sponsor who will be legally and financially responsible for the migrant worker's behavior and welfare, for the duration of his stay in the country.

I call John’s claim legal immigration is impossible just flat untrue. A very near family member brought in many into the US for IT work throughout her career. Many of them I knew personally. Further, I know many many others personally who came in legally all who work in well-paying fields. I have had many doctors who came here legally. This is not even counting many who came in for education and stayed passes college that I have known. This claim makes no sense to my personal experience. Also, all of the ones I known regularly go back to their nations of origin and have no problem getting back into the US. This goes from the manual laborers on up to the professional class workers. This isn't even mentioned the hundreds of migrant workers I know who come every summer for seasonal work in a vacation area I spend time at. There are untold numbers of places like it spread throughout the US as well. I cannot imagine the West Coast is that much different than the Midwest?

Good fellow? Happy birthday to a Great Fellow! (and fellow Arsenal fan)

Can’t even stomach this discussion. They need to pay taxes and not be given free rides.

Looks like the Phillies are gonna have a tough season. Let’s go Giants!

The death of over 500,000 US mostly working-age young men (5 million by today's population) in the US Civil War (1861-1865) required a massive immigration surge over the next half century not only to replace those men lost but also to finish settling the western half of the United States while filling the jobs needed for rapid industrialization. The question we face now is how the massive influx of immigrants over the last 50 years and today will operate in an economy and job market that is about to be impacted by Artificial Intelligence and its potential *elimination* of jobs -- even if the US does decouple from China and expand manufacturing again. And while jobs have been lost in the past through industrialization, computers and the Internet, the question is, on scale, will AI eliminate more jobs more quickly than in the past?

Puts a lot of power in the person deciding whether an immigrant transitions to permanent. Sounds like it's back to the drawing board

I also like the idea of temporary immigration where they are given a work permits for so long with no help from the government. We used to have that. And no more birthrights unless one parent is a citizen. Maybe we could give preference to college graduates and skilled workers like construction workers. Have any of you been to an ER lately? 75% are immigrants with no healthcare at all. Never mind trying to find a reasonably priced apartment for our lower income citizens. Plus I’d require every immigrant to learn English within a year.

Nations are profiting from their exile of these people. The US should charge their host nations for the local cost of their visits.

I will point out, "all you have to do is walk across central America" is REALLY not as easy as it sounds- Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala are all almost nothing but jungle- which if I remember correctly from my days in the Military-Jungle boot camp, "50% of the stuff in the jungle is trying to kill you, and that doesn't even include the enemy", and then in Mexico they can either traverse the GIANT fucking mountain range in the middle, or the jungles on either side, that both then lead into extremely inhospitable deserts... I'm not sure that's definable as easy. To me, that says, THEY REALLY want to be here.

Professor Ferguson, can you write an article or small book on how history repeats itself with a focus on ethical relativism?

Thanks for sharing some good discussion. Tend to agree with H.R. on the situation between Iran and Israel. With Iran and especially with Russia, the focus has been on defense. But little has been done to ultimately stop the aggression in terms of offense. The best defense is a good offense. Putin wouldn't play near so many games if he got handed more of a dose of his own medicine. The last thing in the world I'd want to see is the beginning of WWIII, but to let these situations drag on and on is akin to doing nothing. I agree Israel has done the right thing not to let this escalate out of control. I'd really like to see the hostages released. Wrap it up and move on. Give Putin something new to chew on. He might think twice about pulling another stunt next time. It's getting too expensive otherwise. Wish Niall a belated Happy Birthday 🙂

This guy does a great job telling John he is wrong. 😂😂😂😂

Why is fertiflity falling? That seems to be the question that undergirds much of this. This is worth studying.

Also we then address the main reason for immigration by making farming recycling and solar farming to lift up econamy

its funny because the whole concept of monitoring an immigrant, ensuring they are "contributing" etc. while it makes sense, strikes me as totally opposite of a libertarian, hands off, market will take care of it, approach where they will either succeed or fail of their own volition. covid i think also showed that when jobs dry up, immigration recedes, and when jobs come back, it increases. "if you walk across the border and make a baseless asylum claim, you are able to gain access." yet the GQP hasnt/wont update the asylum laws....doesnt make any sense. IF recent immigrants cant feed their kids, and its not clear this is the case, its because we have a pricing system in this country aimed at people making $60/hr, not aimed at immigrants making $10-15/hr. "assimilation problem?" every single ~7 year old child of an immigrant i have ever heard speak (and i live in CA) speaks fluent english and is immersed in american culture, thank the public school system for that. which is the say that by the 2nd generation, assimilation is well underway, it just takes (small) time. its an interesting point about always having an influx of low wage workers and effect on your overall economy, would be curious to know how Japan (an island with from what i understand very low outside immigration) differs from us.

36:30 Big thumbs up John

Let build houses! Agreed, but how do we build housing they can actually afford? Do you see many builders building affordable housing? There is simply to many things getting in the way. The government is raising the costs, delays, and headaches. Planning, building, zoning, etc. are all making is near impossible to build affordable homes not even getting into the Federal government if you are near water or wetlands. The minimum building requirements (some for safety), green, and environmental laws all increase costs. As an example, every GFCI or ARC fault now requires is actually more money not just safety. Many of the laws also greatly increase the education and skill levels of those doing the work which increase the costs. Things like licensing reduce the number of people able to do the work increasing the costs. Taxes are also a large factor in both building and affordable housing. It is also an area with significant corruption. Zoning laws, increasing land set aside (land trusts, conservation, wetland designations, etc), and increased populations are all making land less available and more costly to build on. In some areas I am aware of half the land is either owned by some governmental branch or some conservation group (supply and demand). The wetland and water laws disallow (or make it extremely expensive) building on additional land further decreasing supply. Zoning laws also further reduce available land by not allowing further subdivision or other density-based laws (smaller lots and multi-unit makes for more homes available). Also, zoning laws other restrict things like living in a tent, dropping a trailer down, or often have minimum building sizes all of which makes for less options for home ownership and drive up the costs. The cheapest affordable housing used to be tents and trailers but even in many rural areas these have been outlawed. You aren't allowed to live on your own land they way you can afford. So, many cannot simply afford to have place to live. Thomas Sowell has written on this topic and the affect it had on the population of San Franciso. The money, what money? There risks for building is very high. There is not a ton of money pouring into building affordable homes the gains are too small and the risks, headaches, and requirements are too high. Things like government, housing market, overall economy, legal risks, taxes, insurance, politics and local corruption are all increasing the risk and reducing cash flow into building housing as a result. Most remodeling in the Midwest is done without permits, but you cannot build a new home without it. Did you even notice out of all the Home Improvement shows there are NONE that I am aware about home builders? All homes being built in IL and WI that I am aware of are not all that affordable to many Americans let alone for most immigrants. I imagine it is even worse on the coasts.? It is from what I hear and have seen.