AMD X5-133 Overclocked @180MHz / RECORD FPS in Quake/ PCI Clock Checker Tool

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#486quakerace
In this video we are overclocking an AMD X5-133 to 180 MHz to beat existing benchmarks of the fastest real 486 setup. At the end I reached here the FPS Record in Quake and in other benchmarks as well. I will explain the setup, tricks with the bus clock as well showing a very helpful tool to measure the PCI clock.
If you can beat my scores, just make a video of it and send it to me or upload it to youtube.
CPU GALAXY 200MHz OC -- • AMD X5-133 OC to 200 M...
Links to the youtube channel of Atheatos and the PCI Clock Checker:
/ @atheatos
• Original Hardware: PCI...
migronelectronics.bigcartel.com
Link to Vogons Forum with the old Record:
www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?...
Link to Phils Computerlab:
www.philscomputerlab.com/dos-...
Used Hardware in my video:
Chips M919 Rev. 3.4b/f
Creative CT6610 Video Blaster
AMD X5-133ADW
16MB EDO Memory @50ns
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  • @stbagn
    @stbagn3 жыл бұрын

    Something inside me broke when I saw your PCI bus running at 60MHz... stable.

  • @kylejones8392

    @kylejones8392

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same! Interesting though. I never thought about a chip being able to take a 60MHz PCI bus just because the same chip was used in an AGP application. Looks like I need to play with my PCI Voodoo Banshee.

  • @remasteredretropcgames3312

    @remasteredretropcgames3312

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something approaches. Gabe is watching.

  • @al73r

    @al73r

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was more impressed by the heatsink

  • @hohiss83

    @hohiss83

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@al73r xD me too

  • @CommodoreGreg

    @CommodoreGreg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hohiss83 Our 486 didn't even have a heatsink. This era was really the beginning of heatsinks as the transistor count and frequency were rapidly climbing.

  • @_..---
    @_..---3 жыл бұрын

    There's something so comfy about the gui of that bios.

  • @krz8888888

    @krz8888888

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, haven't seen this one in a while!

  • @VladoT

    @VladoT

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is also a mouse support if you plug one 🙂

  • @axizepp

    @axizepp

    3 жыл бұрын

    he is faking, its UEFI with a ryzen 3 gen cpu )))

  • @jonchapman6821

    @jonchapman6821

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got this bios (or very very close) on a slot 1 system, and I absolutely hate it! 😆

  • @mlodzin90

    @mlodzin90

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's called WinBIOS, and It's pretty comfortable for me :)

  • @gvii
    @gvii3 жыл бұрын

    These are fun to watch for me mostly because back in the day when I ran this sort of hardware, I didn't dare do any overclocking for fear of burning something up. The hardware was just too expensive to risk blowing it up, at least for most of us at the time. So it is cool to see what you could do if you wanted to.

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516

    @kasimirdenhertog3516

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always figured it would be worth the gamble to impress my friends at school. Not long till I fried my first motherboard... ;-)

  • @eyejswije8860

    @eyejswije8860

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember that moment in time when you either had a pentium 75, 90, 100, 120, 133, or 166

  • @jdmcs
    @jdmcs3 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that version of the AMI BIOS was so cool back in the day. And I have to say that your sleepless nights were worth it, congrats on your successful overclock!

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @mrbrad4637

    @mrbrad4637

    3 жыл бұрын

    AMI always made the best looking/most interesting BIOSes... Especially back in the 286 to 486 era

  • @rennegaddefoxxe

    @rennegaddefoxxe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember AMI WinBIOS; I think it was on my Pentium 90.

  • @builder396

    @builder396

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even my current BIOS doesnt have any windows. It does have mouse support going for it though.

  • @whoknows8225

    @whoknows8225

    Жыл бұрын

    to be honest, this was the time of the transition of going from msdos to windows as windows was getting more and more mainstream... i hated it. I was running dos as long as possible... i really loathed windows

  • @davidca96
    @davidca962 жыл бұрын

    One of the best overclocks I had back in the day was an AMD K62-233mhz that would do 500mhz on air cooling with stock voltage. Back then that was pretty impressive, I still have the cpu itself too.

  • @dallesamllhals9161

    @dallesamllhals9161

    2 жыл бұрын

    You sure it wasn't a K6-2+?

  • @tl1024
    @tl10243 жыл бұрын

    What an awesome video! Thank you for OC'ing old hardware for this. At first, I thought "why on earth would he chose that video card?", but it becomes clear when the insane 60mhz pci bus speed was revealed as the "secret weapon".

  • @BrassicGamer
    @BrassicGamer3 жыл бұрын

    It's only taken 25 years to realise the full potential of this platform lol. This was very entertaining and I'm definitely having a go myself, as I have an ADW revision. Maybe it's magic, like yours. Big props to the guys on the Vogons forum that originated this madness, particularly feipoa.

  • @remasteredretropcgames3312

    @remasteredretropcgames3312

    3 жыл бұрын

    Needs sub ambient.

  • @intrinia2832
    @intrinia28323 жыл бұрын

    I seriously was never put on the edge of my seat for an overclocking video like this for felt ages. My eyes gone wider and wider as you went up the Mhz. Great stuff!

  • @thaddeuscosse9527
    @thaddeuscosse95273 жыл бұрын

    You won the silicon lottery with that chip lol. Edit that scaling from the stock to OC value is amazing.

  • @ryanmalin

    @ryanmalin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im imagining he has been doing his own binning and this is far from his first AM5-133 chip in his collection. Just a guess.

  • @tuff_lover

    @tuff_lover

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanmalin Definitely binned.

  • @AaronBockelie
    @AaronBockelie3 жыл бұрын

    It's been 26 years since I worked on the project, but I remember building a synthetic clock board as comp sci undergraduate research assistant at the University of Washington. We used an (I think) 33mhz 486, and dynamically scaled the clock up and down in increments that matched with vesa local bus, ide, memory, and cpu edge timing. The board also had a small amount of buffer to capture/replay any bits on relevant bus interfaces that would get lost during a clock down event. We were able to scale the frequency high enough to completely loose communication with the video card and other peripherals, so implemented device watchdogs to record failures and put together a statistical map of how many faults and different frequencies things occurred. I recalled being able to greatly overclock the actual cpu, and the real issue was line delays in the motherboard itself - the traces were unable to carry the signals at higher frequency with enough precision. This is a neat project that you performed here, and congratulations on pushing the FPS on the quake benchmark. Superscape 3d vr benchmark is always fun to see too.

  • @janglur

    @janglur

    2 ай бұрын

    This is why when I was running servers for MC I was obsessed with hardware optimization that looked nothing like the then big gaming overclockers. I was maximizing on RAM timings and pure latency. Invested in Optane drives to use as pure SSD due to their low latency and high I/O and higher write tolerance being much better than SSDs at the time for their price. When your limit was pure I/O, you start optimizing weird.

  • @intrinia2832
    @intrinia28323 жыл бұрын

    OMG, I just love your channel! So much good stuff for my retro heart. :D

  • @Zerbey
    @Zerbey3 жыл бұрын

    I love how excited you got when you saw the Quake FPS value, I was right there with you. My own X5-133 would run at 160Mhz but it was unstable even with additional cooling. I never even attempted 180Mhz. I have a soft spot for the X5-133 platform because it's the first PC I financed and built myself (worked all Summer to afford it). Now I want to see if this can be pushed even further.

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    ... you will see it how I am going to push it to the limits 😊

  • @snap_oversteer
    @snap_oversteer3 жыл бұрын

    180MHz 486? Damn, didn't even know the X5-133 can clock so high.

  • @rebeccaschade3987

    @rebeccaschade3987

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have to be quite lucky to manage that speed. But 160MHz should be doable with many more chips. Personally, I don't dare overclocking my retro stuff... I can't afford to risk damaging anything, but I'm certainly impressed by these numbers. Heck, that 486 is faster at Quake than my K5 100MHz, despite the K5 being a 5th gen chip.

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    😉

  • @bitelaserkhalif

    @bitelaserkhalif

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's silicon lottery for ya

  • @Zerbey

    @Zerbey

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rebeccaschade3987 X5-133 chips are extremely common, so don't worry about damaging a rare piece of hardware.

  • @rebeccaschade3987

    @rebeccaschade3987

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Zerbey They still cost money, and I'm more worried about damaging the motherboard (voltage regulators etc.)

  • @Smartphonekanalen
    @Smartphonekanalen3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations! I loved doing 486 OC since it did big difference in reality. It was time saving during boot and it could be the difference in game between not playable and playable.

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you. Yes, exactly that is the point why 486s are fascinating.

  • @Dragonfire511
    @Dragonfire5113 жыл бұрын

    I love watching your channel before sleeping, it relaxes me.

  • @LightTheUnicorn
    @LightTheUnicorn3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome result, seriously impressive performance! Really loving your channel!

  • @supermoon4861
    @supermoon48613 жыл бұрын

    Great videos. I didn't realise Quake would run on a 486. I thought it was compiled with P5 instructions. I remember the first time I played the demo on an early Pentium. Also the first time I saw 'true' colour in Win 3.1 Good times.

  • @MonochromeWench

    @MonochromeWench

    3 жыл бұрын

    It will even run on a 386 with a 80387 co processor installed.

  • @bertholtappels1081
    @bertholtappels10813 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive. If I were to try to beat your world record, I’d keep everything identical, but replace the 14.318MHz Chrystal with a programmable oscillator from Silicon Labs. That way you could push everything to the physical limit and the board and software would be none the wiser.

  • @mrfrog8502

    @mrfrog8502

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would this not show the wrong values everywhere because you'd effectively change master clock reference used for time/speed counting?

  • @kylejones8392

    @kylejones8392

    3 жыл бұрын

    That might not work. The ASIC itself likely runs at that clock speed and you might not get far before overclocking that value causes a problem.

  • @bertholtappels1081

    @bertholtappels1081

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kylejones8392 likely, but this is all an academic exercise anyway. If you can eke out another, say, percent, that may be worth it. Or not 🤷🏻

  • @bertholtappels1081

    @bertholtappels1081

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrfrog8502 that depends on the clock distribution architecture, and the benchmarking software. I’d expect it to take time stamps from the RTC, not from the master clock. System clock timers have been an issue since the 8MHz 8088s broke 4.77MHz games, so I think it’s reasonable to assume benchmarks use a master clock-independent gating system. But I don’t know, I’m just assuming.

  • @kylejones8392

    @kylejones8392

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bertholtappels1081 Very true, every percent counts when you're smashing records!

  • @ernestuz
    @ernestuz3 жыл бұрын

    I used to have one of those back in the days, and I overclocked it to 166MHz, using a crappy FIC motherboard that I had for years. I had to do some work with a pin in the 486 to be able to use it, I isolated it with glue so it wasn't in contact with the socket. I could use it at that speed for most stuff, including a finite elements assignment, but there were a couple of games always crashing, so I reverted back to a more conservative 150MHz. I now think it was a matter of cooling, but who knows. Nice to see your channel is growing.

  • @bollux78
    @bollux783 жыл бұрын

    I had one of these and used it at 180mhz from 1997 to 2003. Played unreal on it with a 2MB VLB video card and 32MB of RAM. I used to call it the fastest 486 in the West.

  • @mixal31

    @mixal31

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unreal on 5x86? How many fps?

  • @phreeze83

    @phreeze83

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mixal31 probably like 12 or so ^^

  • @Radek__

    @Radek__

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@phreeze83 yeah 12 but per minute :-)

  • @MOS6582
    @MOS65823 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent vid. And thanks for recommending Atheatos channel. Looks 👍

  • @DaniloSavioni
    @DaniloSavioni3 жыл бұрын

    incredible !! really enjoyed your video !! congratulations for the fastest 486 on earth !!!

  • @spladam3845
    @spladam38453 жыл бұрын

    This was fantastic, well done. Can't wait to see if this can be beat, not by much I guess, because that is a bad ass 486 you have put together here!

  • @tiporari
    @tiporari3 жыл бұрын

    Nice job. When I was a kid I overclocked a 386SX33 to 66mhz by replacing the mobo clock crystal with a 66mhz crystal from an ISA modem. I had to add external cooling and a heatsink, but it was very fast but not super stable. Allowed me to run games that were not permitted to run on such a slow machine. Fast forward 25 or 30 years, and overclocked systems are routine.

  • @glittlehoss
    @glittlehoss3 жыл бұрын

    Your best material yet. Keep it up.

  • @christoffermedc
    @christoffermedc3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing his page! My favourite when larger KZreadrs recommend notable smaller KZreadrs, subscribed!!

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you. yeah, I know how hard it was for me as well when my channel was smaller. and the big ones are not reacting or answering. Even LGR ist not answering to my mails today... I am not after revenue on youtube, I do this because of passion and if i can help and promote smaller channels who are very professional as well, the whole community has a benefit out of that and we will get more interesting videos on youtube.

  • @christoffermedc

    @christoffermedc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CPUGalaxy Thank you for replying! Yeah, I fear they simply get overloaded, hard to sift through the relevant information etc with to many people trying to get your attention. I'm hoping to start my own channel sooner or later, and that's partly because I don't feel I can discuss the subjects presented in larger KZreadrs videos, due to being completely smothered by the other comments.

  • @dustinweatherby5518
    @dustinweatherby55182 жыл бұрын

    This is such a cool channel I'm so glad I happened to find it!

  • @JVAmorim
    @JVAmorim3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! Continue sending us more content like this. A fan from Brazil

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Soon it is getting to the limit with the AMD X5 to 200 MHz. 😉. Thanks vor visiting my channel.

  • @ted-b
    @ted-b3 жыл бұрын

    That was fun! Congratulations on your world record.

  • @lydialoud
    @lydialoud2 жыл бұрын

    I must say that I love your videos and I wish you would post more often. I send you all the love I can from the United States

  • @BadManiac
    @BadManiac3 жыл бұрын

    My 5x86-133 on an ASUS PVI-486SP3 with an ARK 1000vl VLB graphics card and 32MB regular FPM at stock speed maxes out at 14.3 FPS in Quake and 1498 ticks in Doom, or 49.85 FPS. Looking at your stock result I feel pretty darn pleased with that! :) But to see a 486 get over 20FPS is absolutely remarkable. Amazing work, and thanks for sharing.

  • @gfunkster
    @gfunkster3 жыл бұрын

    Great work and congratulations

  • @w00tDr
    @w00tDr3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations, and well done.

  • @vulturius7664
    @vulturius76643 жыл бұрын

    Well done! I really liked watching this moment in history ;-)

  • @DanielLopez-up6os
    @DanielLopez-up6os3 жыл бұрын

    This overclocking video was super exciting and enjoyable.

  • @OzzFan1000
    @OzzFan10003 жыл бұрын

    Amazing. Congratulations!

  • @apostolcv6796
    @apostolcv67963 жыл бұрын

    I great you with the record ! Nice job is done!

  • @arthurmann578
    @arthurmann5783 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I remember playing the original Half Life using an AMD 486 (5x86?)120 Megahertz, slightly over clocked. I can't remember the speed I managed to get it up to as it was so long ago. I also was using a rather crappy PCI graphics card at the time and I actually enjoyed the experience! My friends could not believe I could actually do this until they saw for themselves. I wish that I had your setup at the time as I can only imagine how much faster it might have been! I think that I may still have that old motherboard and processor around somewhere, minus the HUGE tower case that I had it installed in. I miss those days..... Great video by the way! Subscribed! 👍👍

  • @armchaircommenter6805
    @armchaircommenter68053 жыл бұрын

    great video as always, congratulations on the great result! i wonder if der8auer could beat your scores with ln2... ;)

  • @GabrielZ666
    @GabrielZ6663 жыл бұрын

    Wow, absolutely amazing! I have the same setup and a couple of AMD X5s but I don't even dare to try! What about using another graphics card? I remember testing a GF2 MX400 just for fun on an M915 with a DX4-100 and noticed a huge improvement in Doom, although I didn't test Quake. Can't wait to see the 200mhz video!!!!

  • @vapourmile
    @vapourmile3 жыл бұрын

    Great content from this channel as always. For PC enthusiasts, CPUG is without peer on KZread. Hopefully this will start a 486 war and we'll finally see just how much could have been squeezed from that CPU. I'd be happy to see the same for earlier Intel chips. Often the PC chassis they were put in didn't do them justice.

  • @andheeid
    @andheeid3 жыл бұрын

    7:18 i love that amibios already support mouse input... i used umc based chipset too for my 486 back in the day

  • @nexxusty
    @nexxusty2 жыл бұрын

    You just taught me about CPU wafer binning. Appreciate that.

  • @spitefulwar
    @spitefulwar3 жыл бұрын

    Sir, you are now... the man - the legend!

  • @sonyericssoner
    @sonyericssoner3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Sad than my similiar woodgrain 486 stoped working. I would totaly atempt to beat you

  • @DanPellegrino486
    @DanPellegrino4863 жыл бұрын

    Your channel is going to be huge.

  • @docpaul
    @docpaul3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video - thanks for all the effort you put into this - I was doing this 20 years ago!

  • @Imperious685
    @Imperious6853 жыл бұрын

    Well Done Sir on those results, also for thinking outside the box technically to get there. I have a PCI Voodoo Banshee that's really fast in Dos so I wonder if that would work at 66mhz PCI speeds.

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for less "yeah". this video is interesting and educative, pleasure to watch. mid 90s is very interesting subject especially because of early 3D

  • @wutzerface77

    @wutzerface77

    3 жыл бұрын

    aw what? I love all the "ja" please keep it

  • @ozmobozo

    @ozmobozo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ja?

  • @wutzerface77

    @wutzerface77

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ozmobozo “Ja” is Yes/yeah auf Deutsch (in German)

  • @igotes

    @igotes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another "ja" fan checking in

  • @WR3ND
    @WR3ND2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. That AMD CPU you have is a beast. Makes me wonder what I can safely push my Intel 486 DX4 100 with S3 Vision864 2MB VLB to for practical use in DOS gaming and Windows 3.11. Cheers.

  • @ms-dosman7722
    @ms-dosman77223 жыл бұрын

    Really well done! Hope you can get a 3x66 mhz FSB working for the next attempt!

  • @Stefan_Payne
    @Stefan_Payne3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, higher gains than the increas in clockspeed. Interesting what difference "Plattform Performance" can make.

  • @CptJistuce
    @CptJistuce3 жыл бұрын

    I have that exact motherboard, only the two unpopulated pads in the corner have Fake Cache(TM) on them. It truly is glorious how the traces wrap around from one side of the fake cache area and reconnect back on the other side.

  • @VladoT
    @VladoT3 жыл бұрын

    GREAT work!!!

  • @KJohansson
    @KJohansson3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, but wasnt AGP 1.0 "just a 66Mhz PCI"? So any GPU that was available in both PCI and AGP versions should work with your hot-hack? Good video :)

  • @VincentFischer
    @VincentFischer3 жыл бұрын

    Wow the bios gui looks nicer then from my PCs today.

  • @Keullo-eFIN
    @Keullo-eFIN3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see more retro overclocking stuff from you :)

  • @tsftm4192
    @tsftm41923 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe that C&T mae such a 486 motherboard, its insane, considering there were other companies making extreme boards at the time. Having cache modules on a 486 was extremely rare, I only saw them on later PII and DEC Alpha machines. Your board is similar to my SOYO 486 with all types of connections but you may be able to have 1MB of cache by combining bothe the module and the empty surface mount if you can find and solder the chips. Not a fan of AMI or Phoenix BIOS though, I'm an Award fan. All things considered, you have one of the best 486 platforms to work on. Good job. I have overclocked my 486 machines back in the day, but considering how old they are now, I don't want to stress the electronics, so they run at vanilla specs. You are very lucky to find that motherboard with the cache module. I couldn't find one after months of searching for a RISC motherboard that I had so I gave up.

  • @YuriyKrivosheyev
    @YuriyKrivosheyev3 жыл бұрын

    Very good! Congratulations! Q: are sure, that time measurement logics was still correct after OSC tweak? PIT frequency can be quite non-standard, only RTC will probably stay true. Quake looks really fast, but from compressed video it is hard to count frames :)

  • @AccidentalMisfire09
    @AccidentalMisfire093 жыл бұрын

    No way! I didn't realize what I had. I was watching the video and thought this looked familiar. I got an X5-133ADW from a failed estate sale, with an "X" marked on it. It's definitely a cool conversation piece on how different CPUs are today.

  • @carlwillows
    @carlwillows3 жыл бұрын

    That's a fast 486! Little late in the cycle though. Wasn't long after that came out that I had me a Pentium II rig! (w/agp!!!)

  • @brucetungsten5714
    @brucetungsten57143 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I could only source one am5x86 capable of 180 mhz so far - boots up with 200 but it's unfortunately a no go. The i486Dx4 goes up to 133 max. - and that's pushing it.

  • @kokodin5895
    @kokodin58953 жыл бұрын

    man this is my "the first computer" cpu, and motherboard if not the same it is very very similar. you have much better graphics though the bios is the same i am already crying from nostalgia that sound counting memory and you even have 16 megs of ram also i love it

  • @briangleeson1528
    @briangleeson15283 жыл бұрын

    Cool video! This is the CPU I used on my very first PC build.

  • @BM-jy6cb
    @BM-jy6cb3 жыл бұрын

    The PR133 is super rare? Dammit! Mine went to landfill many years ago. I think it was the only drop-in replacement processor that impressed me. I noticed a significant performance boost after replacing my 486dx2100 and as you mentioned, you got Pentium performance for the price of a 486

  • @BlahBleeBlahBlah
    @BlahBleeBlahBlah3 жыл бұрын

    Now this is great content! 🤘

  • @lordwiadro83
    @lordwiadro833 жыл бұрын

    Really good video! What if you dropped in a Voodoo card? How fast would Quake be?

  • @lustechsource5197
    @lustechsource51973 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the video. I had an AMD 133Mhz CPU that I overclocked to 166MHz. No FPU though. I didnt add any extra cooling to it and it died several months later. That did give me an excuse to get a new CPU with an FPU so I could finally play quake without going to my Universities computer labs.

  • @thomassmith4999
    @thomassmith49993 жыл бұрын

    The fastest setups of these old days machines have be lost to time 20 years ago. Almost no one remembers even the slot one records or mobile barton records anymore. It's a real shame but at least we can try again now.

  • @derek8564
    @derek85643 жыл бұрын

    I had one back in the day. This thing rocked !

  • @mikegaming4924
    @mikegaming49243 жыл бұрын

    It is interesting to see a channel where old components are overclocked and benchmarked. I will look if you have Voodoo3 overclocks here.

  • @Choralone422
    @Choralone4223 жыл бұрын

    Pretty neat. That board is definitely a unicorn among 486 boards! I also had one of those AMD chips in my 486 board back in the mid 90's. I ended up having to run mine at 3x40 for a 120 mhz total speed. My board would not recognize anything higher than a 3x multiplier no matter what settings I tried so I ran it at the max bus speed of 40 mhz. By the same time that board was released you could buy a non-MMX Pentium up to 200 mhz which would blow that 486 chip out of the water in Quake. But it's still neat to see it clocked that fast!

  • @KasparOnTube
    @KasparOnTube3 жыл бұрын

    I really liked that cooling solution :D

  • @alxcsb
    @alxcsb3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. May I ask what speakers those are?

  • @ltlk937
    @ltlk9373 жыл бұрын

    Still loving your new intro!!

  • @IanSlothieRolfe
    @IanSlothieRolfe3 жыл бұрын

    So, how many X5-133's do have to test to find one that will clock this fast? You must have a pretty huge drawerfull!

  • @Kedvespatikus
    @Kedvespatikus3 жыл бұрын

    A legend is born. The real masterpiece here is the overclocking of the PCI bus. Yes, the Game Blaster could take that 60 MHz, but most likely there were other devices on that bus (IDE controller etc.). Insane and ingenous! Now, do you see any chance for that magical 200 MHz? :) :)

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Yes, I am still testing but the results are already very good for a 200 MHz setup. It will be a quiet interesting video as well. Another mainboard, 66.6 MHz Busspeed and multiplier of 3. I am going to beat my own records again. But I need to bring the cpu to 0 degrees to be stable. 😉

  • @snooopy365

    @snooopy365

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CPUGalaxy I'm quite angry with myself... I didn't keep my 5x86... it was posting and running with 200Mhz without special cooling.... but the Matrox Graphicscard didn't like it, so I just ran it at I believe 150Mhz.

  • @Crazyerics
    @Crazyerics3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! My Graphics Blaster Exxtreme does not have the same BIOS with this really cool startup animation! What details can you share about which version you are using?

  • @Frontman936
    @Frontman9363 жыл бұрын

    So good. I always wondered how fast a 486 could be pushed

  • @soulmata
    @soulmata3 жыл бұрын

    A house fire 7 years ago took an entire lifetime of vintage hardware from me, including my favorite rare CPU, an AMD K5 PR-200. Do you have any K5s you could toy around with? I've always wondered if they would function in a dual socket 7 motherboard.

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    cool idea. i have enough k5 and also a nice dual s7 board 🤩

  • @bandiras2

    @bandiras2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CPUGalaxy Can't wait to see that! Thanks for your video!

  • @frogz

    @frogz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CPUGalaxy not all heros wear capes!

  • @supermoon4861

    @supermoon4861

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would be interested in seeing a dual Pentium Pro setup. I always wondered what the performance of those would be like. At the time the thought of NT with mutliple processors was very appealing.

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    actually I have a sealed Dual Socket 8 board here. 😀

  • @gordonfreeman320
    @gordonfreeman3203 жыл бұрын

    That FSB trick is really cool. What kind of calculator were you using at 22:20? I like the display it has.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын

    I'm wondering if you added active cooling with thermal paste/pad if you could get this closer to 200Mhz? Also yep that bios brings back some memories as we had some Gateway computers back in high school in my computer network tech class that had them.

  • @Edman_79
    @Edman_793 жыл бұрын

    Very nice! And you have a new subscriber :D

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @pvc988
    @pvc9883 жыл бұрын

    1. Try sticking a bit of red or orange electric tape over that 7 segment display to make it more readable for the camera. 2. I think it should be possible to modify the BIOS to override that 2x PCI clock divider. Or even better, write simple tool to change the setting on the fly from DOS (as long as there is any decent documentation available for the chipset).

  • @0katmandude0
    @0katmandude03 жыл бұрын

    brings back memories! we overclocked the living daylights out of a similar CPU back in the days. We scavenged a radiator from an amplifier and modded it to fit the motherboard then mounted two cone shaped extension brackets to funnel air from a big industrial 5V 160mm fan to 120 , then to 80mm to fit on the radiator. that fan was way way too powerful for the fan header, so I rigged the one of the rails to supply the wattage and the amps to the fan. you know you've made a big mistake when the air coming off it can tear stuff of the MB. but hey it worked and we had something in the region of 25 to 30% overclock on the cpu.

  • @TheSkogemann
    @TheSkogemann3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one! Got all nolstalgic from the days where you would do anything to squeeze out an extra megahertz. I noticed though, that you made an error at @22:13 saying "... multiplying by 34" but entered 35. I am not sure that means anything for your results, just worth mentioning!

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I said by mistake 34 but entered the right value into the calculator.

  • @HighTreason610
    @HighTreason6103 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive. I dabbled with this a long time ago, but could never get the VGA card to work - knew the CPU was working, because removing the card resulted in angry beeps. Perhaps it's worth another go, just for fun, though I doubt any of the cards I have that might run at this speed would be very fast in DOS. I still feel the WinChip is overlooked here. It's kinda '486-Like' but runs in boards with AGP and SDRAM, as well as being clocked at over 200MHz right out of the box. It just isn't the same, though.

  • @karolwojtyla3047
    @karolwojtyla30473 жыл бұрын

    Congratulation! ;)

  • @jamespilcher5287
    @jamespilcher52873 жыл бұрын

    The intro sting alone was enough for me to subscribe

  • @makinjica
    @makinjica Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on new record . On question , diference with temps on overclock @ 180 and stock 133 ?

  • @alphadog6970
    @alphadog69703 жыл бұрын

    More videos like this i really enjoyed it. 😉😉

  • @mal2ksc
    @mal2ksc3 жыл бұрын

    I seem to recall that practically every later (like after the first year of production) AMD 486DX4/100 ran just fine at 120 MHz, and lots of people did this and found out (as you mentioned) that some PCI video cards were not happy. Most Socket 3 boards that topped out at 40 didn't have a frequency divider for the PCI bus.

  • @floriankummer1246
    @floriankummer12463 жыл бұрын

    Well done!

  • @nikmilosevic1696
    @nikmilosevic16963 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME. Still have one of these boards with a 5x86 chip and the fastest RAM I could find in the day (50ns). Used to scare the pentium 90 users with it clocked to 50MHz bus @ 150MHz CPU. I remember having trouble getting cards that would work with bus setting at 50MHz. Used to run it at 160MHz on a 40MHz bus also. But 180MHz, thats fantastic.

  • @fetus2280
    @fetus22803 жыл бұрын

    Congrats !

  • @Xaltar_
    @Xaltar_3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Worth noting for anyone taking up the challenge, even if you were to achieve say 200mhz (50mhz x4) you likely still wouldn't beat the Quake score because you would be limited to 25mhz on the PCI bus or 50mhz if you have a board like this that can be tricked into bypassing the divider or a PCI enabled board that lacks the divider entirely. Ideally you would want to run at a 66mhz FSB setting, this will net you higher PCI speeds. You will need a PCI Graphics card that uses the same GPU as an AGP card (like the one used here). This will guarantee you are able to run at the full 66mhz as supported by AGP. Other tips would be larger, faster lvl2 cache. I think the key here is overclocking the floating point unit as far as possible in conjunction with a 66mhz PCI bus. I don't know if CPU Galaxy tried this but I would be very curious what the result would be with 66mhz FSB with a multi of 2.5, would the extra 6mhz on the PCI bus make up for the lower overclock, 166mhz vs 180mhz. How much of the uplift is coming from the faster PCI bus and how much is caused by the faster clocked FPU? The ideal would be to run at 66mhz x 3 but finding a CPU stable at 200mhz will be difficult, if not impossible. Videos like these make me sad that I no longer have my collection of 486 and early Pentium/AMD K6 CPUs/boards. Sadly I moved country and could not bring them with me. Now they cost more than they are worth to replace.

  • @CPUGalaxy

    @CPUGalaxy

    3 жыл бұрын

    3x66 MHZ and also 66 mhz on the pci bus is already in work 🙃. But with another board and I need some active cooling the cpu to 0 degrees... soon, here on my channel. 😉

  • @Xaltar_

    @Xaltar_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CPUGalaxy Excellent, looking forward to the results :)

  • @danthompsett2894
    @danthompsett28943 жыл бұрын

    that was sick dude, and with just a hunk of aluminuim with no thermal paste resting on it, nice hack idea with an pci version of an agp video card so you can double the bus speed. did that read as 188mhz? only i checked hwbot and it had a cpu-z world record set as 179.88mhz, so yeah you could have a new world record there bud, depends what it reads on cpu-z in windows.

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita3 жыл бұрын

    43rd week of 1996 is quite impressively late for the 486 / 5x86 chipset. The P6 Pentium Pro was already available commercially for a year that point, and Pentium MMX was also literally launched just that week (~October 22, 1986). The AM5x86-133 (@160 MHz w/VL Bus cards) got me through a rather "poor" period time of my life after a bunch of stuff happened - a lot of value for the $, and I used it from 1995-1997 as my main PC and for another 3 years as a network node to help me get my MCP and MCSE for WindowsNT certifications. The final hurrah for the system came in 2000 when I decided to see if it would run under mineral oil for cooling (and yes of course it worked great). Unfortunately with no way to clean the board, the board and processor went in the trash :/. I do have a "Powerleap 5x86-133" sitting in a box though today. P.S. Wow! I remember that BIOS!

  • @framebuffer.10
    @framebuffer.103 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, and that 60MHz PCI, even if you used an AGP Chip able to handle 66MHz, is still impressive 😮 Congratulations, fantastic job! 😎 P.S. any (rough) idea how many MHz a Pentium require to compare to this?

  • @Natomon01
    @Natomon012 жыл бұрын

    This is dangerous for me. I have almost the exact same setup you're playing with in this video! I actually have heard of the strategy you're employing here, but nobody who explained it on Vogons went into this level of detail.

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