Thanks for putting MSFS 2020 right up front. So tired of other reviewers comparing games at well over 500fps when we have highly CPU bound simulation games struggling to achieve 60fps.

@samuelcarstens6152

Жыл бұрын

Not seeing MSFS benchmark for 4k VR is what keeps me from making a decision on my build.

@alanphillips4851

Жыл бұрын

Yes agreed. I run 3x4k with a 4090 using DLSS3 and a 7950X in a sim pit and I'm locked at half refresh, 30fps, and it never drops below that. If I bought this I would gain 0 over the 7950X. So hard pass for me. While I was quietly looking forward to this offering, this is still exactly the review I was looking for.

@samuelcarstens6152

Жыл бұрын

@@alanphillips4851 the MSFS is at the end

@MustafaGT

Жыл бұрын

@@alanphillips4851I really doubt you would see 0 difference. I mean, this review itself shows that the 7950X3D is pushing way more than the 7950X. I’m on a 7950X and 4090 and I’m getting that 3D in a heart beat tomorrow

@hansolo631

Жыл бұрын

Yea agreed. I'm not sure if they should be using maxed out ram on the intel CPU though. IDK anything about ddr5, I bought a cheap kit of hynix for my 7600x that let me go to 6k/32cl effortlessly and pretty much ignored it since. IDK if most people oc to 7200-8k or if it is faster or what. But I am impressed with how the channel delivers data. Slightly underwhelmed by this CPU - this is their highest end offering, and it does seem to edge the i9 at half the power - maybe I should be more impressed.

Love your reviews. The graphs are simple to understand, love that you show all 3 resolution results. I do wish you had some more competitive multiplayer games with a separate competitive settings results. Thx ❤

Really, really appreciate you including the 4k data! Extremely helpful especially across such an extensive library of games. Thank you for the time and effort you put in!

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

This was really well put together, I'm shocked I haven't seen this channel before! Earned a sub for the earliest review I found.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! And thanks :)

i want to commend you for your efforts of testing at higher resolutions as the people who are playing on 3090s and 4090s are also probably playing at higher resolutions. As a 4k144 user, this data is way more useful to me than just 1080p. thanks again

@aberkae

Жыл бұрын

If you play at 4k dlss set to quality then the 1440p is more relevant to you as well because of the base samples resolution fyi.

@jaybee0507

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why 4k gamers want to see 4k benchmarks. 1080p benchmark will tell you which cpu is faster. Period. That means it will also be faster in 4K if your graphics card isn't doing 99%. Which you should avoid anyway, because running gpu with fult tilt creates significant input lag to your controls. I guess most people wanting to see 4k cpu benchmarks just doesn't understand how pc hardware actually works.

@KG_BM

Жыл бұрын

@@jaybee0507I want to see how big the actual difference in CPUs is at 4k. Obviously at that resolution it is GPU bound, but it doesnt mean CPU performance isnt relevant. The 4090 is pushing the ceiling higher. There is nothing wrong with just having more/specific information. Also 5:06 will show that your assumption that higher performance at 1080p translates to 4k. It is useful information

@jaybee0507

Жыл бұрын

@@KG_BM If you are gpu bound, you are already doing things wrong. You control the difference by taking the load off from your gpu and giving fuel to the cpu. Don't want to lower details any lower? Then set a frame rate cap. You never want to be gpu bound. I mean, at least i wouldn't want to. If you are playing with gpu full tilt, none of that margin of error differences matter since you're already dwelling with tens of milliseconds of extra lag. Unless you are using nvidia reflex.

@jaybee0507

Жыл бұрын

@@KG_BM .... But, yeah, sometimes 4k benchmarks can be useful as bigger resolutions can show weird fps numbers due lots reasons, for example memory bandwith running out or something. So yeah, you're right. There can be useful information.

Thank you so much for showing MSFS 2020! There are so many people that use this, but you never see them in benchmark reviews! 👏👏👏👏

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! I did have it included in some (most?) recent content, definitely an interesting challenge for CPU testing.

Appreciate the 4k gaming comparisons in the benchmarks as well, good stuff!

@djnormal3910

Жыл бұрын

As a 4k gamer myself, I see very little value to upgrade to a 7950x3d based off this.

@eXeDenko

Жыл бұрын

@@djnormal3910 And now we know for sure!

The best review I have ever seen so far. Complete in every aspects: from different resolutions to power analysis. Without mention the data presentation and the proper timing between each bench/topic. Great work!

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! :D

Always love your reviews. Simple and straight to the point. Some other reviews completely left out 1440p and 4K. If you’re spending this much on a CPU I doubt your running much at 1080p.

@thelmaviaduct

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, and they try to justify why they leave out 4k testing 😂🤣😂🤣

Wonderful video. Would be interesting to see a video update in the future where you run the tests again, except with disabling the "faster" CCD at the bios to see what you uncover about faulty scheduling for each of the games. Thanks for testing so many of them and at the higher resolutions!

Thank you for taking the time to make this review. I greatly appreciate the multi-faceted review from multiple resolutions, power at load and idle, different configs, cost, etc. Hands down, best 7950X3D review I've seen.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad it’s appreciated! 😊

VERY thorough review, just what I needed. Thank you so much!

Thanks for another perfect video from this channel that includes all resolutions and all power usage aspects without skipping anything. And in the shortest time period possible too.

Thank you for pointing out power usage while idle. I think it's really one of the factors that can influence the purchase.

@christopherjackson2157

Жыл бұрын

I've definitely noticed that if I log my power draw at the wall for a month i get a very different power draw ranking than I do when I compare power draw during benchmarks

@chrisbullock6477

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no. If you're at this level of usage and purchasing and you have a quality PSU to boot I think you're already accustomed to so called high power especially if you have an i9. Also keeping in mind there's plenty of time in the weeks to come for updates. It hasn't even hit shelves yet. End of the day you're going to get one or you're not.

@JoeWayne84

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbullock6477 fanboy spotted

@LeadSails

Жыл бұрын

Maybe for a lower end cpu but i doubt for this one. I’m upgrading from a 9900K and have been debating between this and the 13900KS,also running a Suprim X 4090, I think if you’re spending $700 on a cpu you really don’t care about the electricity bill. I really could care less about how much power my pc uses under load or idle.

@HawkSea

Жыл бұрын

@@LeadSails Not true. I haven't upgraded in years and I am finally biting the bullet for an upgrade so power consumption is an issue.

Thank you for providing a balanced review and showing performance in the 3 main resolutions!

Your power consumption benchmarks were awesome! Thanks.

Nice review. I particularly appreciated running games at the 3 typical resolutions.

Clean and clear benchmark to read. Thanks!

Your reviews are the most cleanest and classy among the other youtubers, excellent job.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! ☺

Thank you for including MSFS and highlighting the energy consumption in detail.

This is absolutely the best review comparing the processors. Keep up the great work 😃

Thank you so much for including 4k in your CPU reviews. I was holding out with my 5800X, but i can see a few games where my 4090 really gets bottlenecked by it. Can't wait for the 7800X3D coming in April, until then i have to hope there aren't more games that come out and make my CPU the bottleneck of the system :)

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

7800X is coming in ~5 weeks, I'm sure you'll be ok with a 5800X :D

@GamePat96

Жыл бұрын

@@TechTesters haha yeah most likely, but i'll give it a chance to win me over :D Originally i wanted to get the 7900X3D, as i do some video editing, so it would be a nice little update for both gaming and productivity. But not sure it is worth it yet, though that's what your videos are for, to find it out :)

@aberkae

Жыл бұрын

If you play at 4k dlss set to quality or lower preset then 1440p results are more prevalent as well fyi.

@horus666tube

Жыл бұрын

@@GamePat96 you still have one big hurdle then though, good luck on actually getting one ... :D well in the us it might be easy, in germany its horrible :D

I really enjoy your reviews. Thanks 😊

This is incredibly helpful! Thank you!

Thank you for the 3 main resolutions! People should do this more.

GREAT (and alot of !) work as usual !

Thanks for doing 1440p and 4k benchmark, informing shoppers in the market for those resolution

I really liked your analysis of the main gaming processors currently available on the computer market. Congratulations on the work done! This channel is one of the best in this type of analysis. Congratulations from Brasil ! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@HakunaMatata225

Жыл бұрын

This is a very thirsty comment!! I don't see any special analysis or hear anything that haven't been said a million times by all the AMD sponsored reviewers!

Thanks for the review! 😃👍

Very helpful for my future upgrade in the coming months. Fantastic :)

Yay! Saw a few other videos on the same product from other very popular content producers, and I'm convinced some of them watch your videos and copy your points and style before they make their videos. Thanks for the professional and well produced content as always, Ms. Nada :) You're awesome! :)

thx would be waiting for your review for 7800x3d right now sitting at 6600k 1070 was waiting for long for new tech stuff

Finally a video that matters! :) keep up the great work!

Excellent review ! Thanks!

Thank you for being one of the few, or even the only one who showed 4k benchmarks. Now it's clear for me that for 4k gaming with 4090 it is not worth it.

@floydfubu

Жыл бұрын

That review like most of others is bullcaca. They review that great CPU with zero games throught Ray tracing..... Hell everyone who owns a raytracing GPU know that we will be cpu limited at some point, when using the RT features..... 3090 rtx or even 4090 IS way ahead and usefull for 2-4-8k gaming ... Im waiting for reviewers who are going to use fairly their CPU ( 7950x3d ) with RT features on. Flat review on flat games with flat results. Enough said 😭

@maratusss

Жыл бұрын

​@@floydfubu да нафиг этот rt не сдался, что с ним что без в динамике не видно

@Dx-so7jm

Жыл бұрын

I agree , like Jesus , who the hell is spending 2000 on a GPU and 1000 on a cpu to play at 1080p , real world use please , great video

@Great_America

Жыл бұрын

Just the opposite. The 4090 is worth every penny.

@beaudetkevin2528

Жыл бұрын

@@Dx-so7jm eh… me, playing competitive titles. Usefull with benq’s otherwise I can’t max my refresh rate

Just Subbed 😎 You make the best videos ever. This is the best comparison video ever on last gen cpus. Thank you so much 😍❤ Love 7950X3D 🔥🔥🔥 I currently have 5950X. Can't wait to upgrade in near future. Also I'm waiting for 8950X3D 😃Can't wait to see comparisons on that.

Lots of good info, thanks Nada!

You always do a great job explaining the Products. have a great day.

thx for making tests in different resolutions

Fantastic comprehensive review of the AMD Ryzen 7950X3D as always.

excellent info. thanks for doing this

It is very exciting to hear all the different benchmarks of these and comparisons to Intel and great to see all the angles on the review for these AMD CPUs, it makes me really reconsider a high end AMD CPU for it's unique split of the cache and gaming versus application usage, similar to P and E cores, but very cool to see more specialized usage. Thank you Tech testers! Wonderful content as usual!

Super nice review! Thank you!!!

I love the authentic "Wolfenstein" pronunciation. Sounds so beautiful.

damn... the power consumption... Intel really went all out. I think X3D makes much more sense in longer run, not only for your bills but AM5 platform will support new cpus.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

I might do a total cost calculation at some point. Should be interesting with our Dutch power rates :-/

@GuidoDePalma

Жыл бұрын

13th gen can be undervolted and power limited to perform well under 100W in gaming, but mainstream reviewers dont have the skills to do so. Check der8uer channel

@dersan2

Жыл бұрын

​@@TechTesters kan niet wachten 😁

Woot! Another wonderful review!!!

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thx 4 1440P tests !

I love the comparison of all 3 resolutions ! :]

So glad I found this channel and surprised I didn't find it earlier. It's absolutely up there in terms of quality with the pc tech channels that have many millions of subscribers.

I enjoy the video and great review....Keep it Up

Nice review Nada. The power consumption difference is amazing, barring idle behavior.

@babukp

Жыл бұрын

so it counts only if AMD wins... the idle power is almost 50% of energy bill.. so AMD system delivers higher power bills

@zkilla4611

Жыл бұрын

@@babukp Im not sure who just lets their PC idle all day. But I usually tunr on my PC and start gaming. Idle should not make a huge difference. That said. Intel's Idle power is impressive. Im guessing the little cores help that.

@zebical

Жыл бұрын

@@babukp Uh?????

@babukp

Жыл бұрын

@@zkilla4611 Imagine u do some browsing and then reading a page.., that is definitely idle time..., all data points to users having 50% usage of idle time and 50% of active.., unless someone is a gaming addict. But anyway Intel needs a new process node to match active power as well..., may be 2024

@zkilla4611

Жыл бұрын

@@babukp Im sure I am a bit of a minority. But i mainly use my PC to game. Yes. I am an addict. I believe AMD is doing Big/Little on their next Generation. It will be an interesting time in the next 8 years. Odd because when I research Idle power in 13900k guru3d shows it at 69watt and 7950X at 72W. This is total system power not just processor it seems. But its something to think about. "We show energy consumption based on the entire PC (motherboard / processor / graphics card / memory / SSD). This number depends and will vary per motherboard (added ICs / controllers / wifi / Bluetooth) and PSU (efficiency). Keep in mind that we measure the ENTIRE PC, not just the processor's power consumption."

OMG your videos are amazing im surprised why most popular PC tech channels do only 1080p and 1440p I game in 4K 144Hz and i need to know if its worth upgrading. Keep up the good work and please we need more 4K gaming benchmarks.

@iikatinggangsengii2471

Жыл бұрын

bcs those are resos that uses cpu, above that its singlehandedly gpu working 100%, and good luck with 4k 144

I like how you point out the power consumptions.

One little thing I would like to mention, the numbers for the 1% lows are a little harder to parse than they could be. If you had the bar be a dark colour up to the 1% low number and then a lighter colour after that for the average it would make it easier to immediately see the difference.

@hadleys.4869

Жыл бұрын

13900k/ks does better in 1% lows typically. Especially at higher resolutions.

Thank you for testing 1440p I was surprised at the boost of performance at that resolution!

Great video Nada, awesome presentation.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great review! Thank you

Thank you for including the temps and power draw of the gigabyte AM5 board - I wish some oems would stop shoving way too much voltage into the CPU. Re-using a 360 LF2 AIO would keep the 7950X3D super chilled. Looks like tuning the 7950X3D will be completely different than 7950X just like how tuning Zen 4 is completely different to Zen 3.

Thank you for doing higher resolution for these chips. Always frustrating to see the bigger techtubers not test higher resolutions, especially for gaming, to get a better idea of how to go about choosing a platform for a long haul situation. I'm torn now because I've always gone intel, but AMD is making me reconsider, especially with the power differential. You got a sub out of me.

Thank you for including Flight Simulator, the big reviewers missed it.

Great video thanks 🙏🏻

It's great you're showing all the relevant resolutions. Yes, 1080p is meant to remove the GPU from the equation but as GPUs have progresses so has this requirement. It's obvious there are differences at higher resolutions and it's good to evaluate that difference. Even if there is no big difference at 1440p or 4K, at least you know for sure.

Great job and a huge number of tests. The more comprehensive and detailed the tests are, the more appetite there is for more. Is it possible in the future, with the arrival of new processors such as the 7900x3D or 7800x3D, to conduct tests for Intel processors with faster RAM, such as 7200MHz? This would be to achieve the maximum performance from the platform. It would be great, but if there isn't enough time or energy for such tests, it's not a problem. Thank you for the amazing content.

Thanks! Amazing video. Waiting video about 7800x3d after 06.04.2023

Awesome content, Thanks

Thanks for 4K testing, every high end rig has a nice 4K screen or an Oled TV.

@moecharms

6 ай бұрын

I have the highest end a rig can get. At about 8.5k out the door. Everything is not top of the line. I strictly use 2k and non OLED.

Nice job! Thanks for the great info! Now I'll go watch a few other reviews that I'll probably cringe at and enjoy less..😊

Best Review as Always .

Nice review Nada 😁

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Wim

I really like y’all’s reviews. Thanks for bringing up the power consumption. It’s actually the main reason I chose the 7950x3d vs the 13900k. Also, it’s weird how much the ASUS motherboards suck this generation, pretty much across the board. I kind of wish you had used the AORUS motherboard for testing because I’ve seen it make a significant difference in overall benchmarks on other channels. I actually switched from an ROG Strix from my previous build to the AORUS Master. They just did so much better building their hardware & software this time around.

Thorough unbiased review💪💪💪 Both amd and intel RnD/Marketing should follow your channel as the highlight of the comparison

I'm really looking forward to the 7800x3D. Gonna buy one as soon as it's available.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Me too. If i get one that is :)

thx for testing these high end chips on 1440p and 4k

Good review, thank you

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Can’t wait for the 7800x3d and seeing these gaming results it’s pretty good overall at 1440p which is the resolution I game on. Efficiency is also important as I have to pay for my own electricity. Coming from a i7 4930k so it’ll be a big upgrade.

It is the similar case as ryzen 7000x series launch.. Performance actually got fixed and got better after a bios update. It has 3d cache so it's really need bios update.

I can't wait for 7800X3D. That CPU is gonna be the ultimate gaming processor.

Thank you for such a nice video 🙏

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure 😊

That was interesting and informing review. I do like how you presented those benchmarks and adding power consumption was a good move, cause in a long run X3D models could be better, because almost half of power consumption of i9 is insane. I myself work from home and spend about 12 hours in from of my PC, so this would add up quickly. I know idle power isn't good for Ryzen CPUs, but still under load it is abysmal for Intel. I'm personally waiting for Ryzen 7 7800X3D, cause single CCD can boost higher with Vcache, cause of thermal and power limits, additionally 7950X3D is too expensive for normal day use without high productivity tasks.

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And if you don't need the cores, waiting for a 7800X3D makes sense tbh.

Thanks for review.

I love yours reviews 🥰

When ddr5 goes into 10k mhz

Great job!

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks for your easy to follow charts. I game at 4K with a 5950x/7900XTX and want to upgrade to AM5. 7950X will be the way to go.

Wow great review as always, makes me hyped for the upcoming 7800X3D. I think with half the cores will be even more efficient for high-end gaming

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Really curious how that will do.

@lucidflicks

Жыл бұрын

I really wish they released the 8 core model tomorrow too, I have a 4090 and I’m still on am4 I just wanna know how well the 7800x3d is gonna stack up before I buy one of the higher core models, Decisions decisions….

Very nice review im going to upgrade from 5600x to 7950x3d tomorrow and particularly for pubg and tarkov also warzone i really wish you had some bench from these games but im sure in pubg and tarkov the cache will show great fps advance

I'm not the biggest fan of AIOs so the 7000-series 3D CPUs are really tempting. Really want to keep using my U12A. Can't wait to see the benchmarks for the 7800X3D when it releases next month.

Thanks for the nice review. When the 7800X3D comes out, please test it on the Aorus board. Stability and performance on these boards is the best. It's nice to see in this video how it consumes less power on the second board.

Just including the 5800x3D in those graphs would've made this review pretty perfect.

@thelmaviaduct

Жыл бұрын

Please do this, need to see the difference vs last gen. How else do we decide if the huge upgrade (cpu, mboard, ram) is worth it.

Thank you for putting the anno 1800 benchmark. Can you also put city skylines and farthest frontier next time?

Good graphs!

Nice review

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for including 1440p and 4k. I don't know why some channels only show 1080p, I know it shows more of the cpu performance difference, but let's be honest if you are buying these coua you are gaming at a minimum 1440p.

hey there, did you installed the lastest AMD Ryzen Master with the new options for the 9 x3D series? like amd ppm & amd v cash performance optimizer driver. schould win a 30/40 fps more in some games.

Thanks for doing 4K results. I get why reviewers usually don't, but the CPU is clearly starting to become relevant to 4K performance.

Was this considering the Chipset driver update and also the Xbox Gamebar power option to force the game to be loaded in the CPUs that have the 3d cache? These numbers are very different from Hardware unboxed or GamerNexus

Possible to do a 7800x3d simulation by disabling 1 group and lower clocks?

Thanks for the great video, as always. Greetings from Bosnia ;)

@TechTesters

Жыл бұрын

Hvala puno!

@amrsho

Жыл бұрын

@@TechTesters Graag gedaan😀

Looks promising, but I think I'll wait a few months, see what need BIOS and Drivers do. Will be interesting to see the 7800X3D. Currently you have to install so much s/w, click click click, to ensure you get best performance, it seems a little bleeding edge right now I like its lower power draw when under load, but its idle draw seems oddly high, as noted Your reviews are always very good.

I'm not sure how strong the memory controller is on the 7950X or 7950X3D, but it's worth noting that the 13900k hits 8000 on Hynix A die very easily. I'd like to see a lot more tests with the memory tuned to the max and max OC's factored in.