Amazon 4 Piston Brakes: Initial Impressions
We install these III Pro E4 brakes on the Kent Trouvaille with some new rotors and give our Initial Impressions plus we try a little podcast-ish style of edit
0:00 Opener
0:32 Intro
2:53 On This Episode
4:43 Internal Routing Designs
6:21 The Rotors
7:35 The Brakes
10:08 The Brake Pads
11:24 The Calipers
13:43 Adapter Talk
15:34 Mechanical Brake Talk
19:32 Internal Routing
24:01 Outro
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PRODUCTS INSTALLED ON THIS EPISODE
III Pro E4 Hydraulic Brakes:
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Floating rotors:
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203mm Adapter Front:
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180mm Adapter Rear:
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TOOLS USED ON THIS EPISODE
Bike Tools Torque Wrench:
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Park Tools Bike Stand:
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Kent Trouvaille:
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SOME TROUVAILLE PARTS
Sensah Groupset 12spd VERSION:
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RockShox Recon Silver RL (similar):
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Jessica 44-55mm Headset:
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Hope Pro 2 and 4 Boost Adapter:
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Rockbros Pedals:
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I didn't know 90's Andre Agassi knew so much about bikes!
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh my god!! Wolfman/Dad stared giggling like a school girl! He told me the comment and I had no clue, so he pulled up an older pic and WOW!!! 🤣🤣 Best comment ever 🤦♂️ Thanks for the laughs!!!
"it doesn't feel squishy... it actually feels like I'm hitting a wall" ---- no comment... you know what I'm thinking... lol
@GokkunGuru
Жыл бұрын
Long Dong Silver
That lever looked like it had a really good feel straight outta the box ! Awesomeness!
Well those brakes certainly are handsome looking but not nearly as handsome as Tic in those beautiful golden locks😀😀👍👍
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 You Know it brother!!! I need to wear it more often lol. Thanks fellas
Those look so good
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
🤘
What's up guys!! Glad to see you two still at it and killing it. -Brett Parker
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Hey brother! Man nice to see ya around! Hope your still at it, we still use the apache pine stuff 🤘 Much love and don't be a stranger!!
@BPxGarage
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Glad to hear it! That’s awesome. 🤙🏽 ride safe. I’ll be watching
Guys we traveled the country and mtb-d everywhere. Cable brakes are super helpful when you have just traveled for 6 hours and your kids just wanna ride at the next spot. It’s nice when your brakes can be adjusted with an Allen wrench.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Dude such a good point!!! LOL Thise were the days 🤣
20:07 here I come.. You knew i had to say something. If is tight, is ok.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 Was waiting for it!!
Awesomeness 😮 ,just put a 4pot front on my mtb, only 30 bucks off ebay all ready to go inc pads, absolute ANCHOR ⚓️ 👌, stay cool brothers 😎 ✌️
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
2 ай бұрын
Fo Sho! Nice buy 👌
Always will be one of my favorite KZread channels
I need and want a 1 month review. A downhill drag review please.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Lol, a review will be commenced 😀 Downhill for sure, gonna ride a black 2.3 mile And put these through hell!
I feel you with the internal routing. They look great once they are in, but it’s a pain to get them in from scratch. But the routing on this bike makes it easier since you don’t have to go from the down tube through the seat stay. Great review guys!
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks William, so happy there was no need to bleed! God that takes so much time lol, but we will see how the review goes. 😅 I am a little nervous to be honest!!
Man im excited to see how these brakes perform!!
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Us too!! They look the part and hopefully, fingers crossed the pads HOLD UP!!
@Ferrari255GTO
Жыл бұрын
Honestly i'm curious because most counterfeit brakes are fairly terrible, they probably would also be better off using a set of Avid rotors that Will work better than thoose, the last set of counterfeit rotores i had was garbage and had no bite towards the pads, neither before or after bedding them
Good to see another video from you guys it seems like it's been awhile for me since then. Off topic here but something that was a game change for me on my beard and tangles was to start combing it out in the shower.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Well, you have got a gorgeous looking one!😛 I'll tell Wolfman he needs to start doing that too!! Got any tips for a mullet??
Thanks Man Yıu are the first KZreadr that ı get contect and makes video with consept commented by a "Random person" Thank you. You are the best😃
Great video love the colour of the brakes looking good 👍
A Walmart bike with hope hubs!!?!?!?😂😂😂😂 I love y’all
Heres a little tip with new pads. Wet them with water and rub together until they start to bite (you'll feel it). Rinse off with more water then install
My dude, i got the 2 Pistons version for almost one year, there's nothing about air after adjust the lever, you can adjust it no worries
Looks sweet! I’m very close to converting the Taff to the mullet action. Also, may get these brakes for the wife’s whip! Can’t wait for the real-time review!
Tick with a mullet will never not be funny 😂😂😂. I hope these brakes are better than the last lot, they look great, those rotors are beautiful! Looking forward to the realtime. Stay safe guys 🍻😎👍
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, hope you oneday get to visit and I'll bring the mullet!!! LOL New Patron video should drop tonight 🤪
@danboyes7477
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I'll get there one day 😂, I'll keep an eye out for it 👍🍻
They look great cant wait for the realtime review i want them for my gt bikes if they perform well excellent video
Juin Tech makes a great cable activated hydraulic brake, a little cleaner looking than the TRPs. But TRP and others make a dual pull cable brake that has a yoke to move the pads from both sides. They are all improvements over the standard cable discs. But as always, Tick looks fabulous!
@lifebehindtheselens
Жыл бұрын
I have the knockoffs I believe they're on Amazon they're called like X Tech and they worked excellent to stop my motorized bicycle from 60 miles an hour to zero I would highly recommend the juin tech brakes
@mikethomas6051
Жыл бұрын
I had the cable hydraulic brakes, x-tech, they were ok, was dual piston, you could micro adjust pad adjustment with a screw on caliper but you can buy hydraulic brakes with better braking power for same money
@mikethomas6051
Жыл бұрын
@@lifebehindtheselens i think you're exaggerating that 60mph abit lol i had them on my bafang ebike and they don't brake that hard, i had 203mm rotor up front but they are decent
I’ve been running these for about 2 months now. Changing that pads helped and a bleed
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Let's see what we need if the pads wear out and if they do well. Thanks Brother
@unclejohn5012
Жыл бұрын
What pads did you change to?
Those breaks are sick! I love the look, they make me think of hope breaks. Very old school DH looking! Also reguarding the internal routing on both bikes. From a technician perspective I like em both, and they look very simple to route and maintain. The Acension is the winner for me being that big opening is MUCH easier to route the Trouvaille's smaller hole. The trouvaille would be a tighter fit there fore quiter but since they are entry hard tails so they it's not a bug deal in the end.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Agree man, the opening meeting it waaaay easier!! LOL Thanks for the info and the awesome content, the brakes look the part and hopefully they don't get burnt up!! 😬
Sticktion, my mechanics favourite word! First watch, entertaining, subbed!
I use a trick with sewing thread and a shop vac to suck it through the frame. Then use that to guide the housing through. Can also tie it with a unison knot to brake line and pull through
Those look sweet. I want some hydros for my Axum, but don't want to spend a ton. I have some 4 piston Shimano SLX hydros 200/180 on my Stumpjumper 29er and they are sick!! Can't wait for the review trailside!!
Great item! Would highly recommend!
I love the looks of those brakes but man that kick stand hanger is making me want to go out to the garage and start grinding stuff
I'm heading back down to Las Vegas in April. I still haven't decided to replace the cable disc brakes with the hydraulic Shimanos I have sitting in a box down there. As I stated before, the stock Axum brakes work really well.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Man, sometimes they are the way to go...
The DNM burner coil shock would make a great video
5:43 Technically this one is stronger, if the cut in the down tube is well done, but keep in mind weird shapes and sharp cuts can be stress raisers, which can cause failure, but a routing hole like this is not likely to do that, but I am not an expert so can't say for sure. But you were to put an powerdrill to a frame to make internal routing and did it badly you could cause a failure, but here it's a end of a tu, and big area is welded and is more material there. Keep in mind these bikes are xc bikes, they are likely using the softer, weaker 6061 T6 alu, tubing is very thin too.my bike is a enduro bike, it uses Downhill rated tubing, much thicker and stronger alu too. but it's of course heavier, but it's built for a different purpose. But I love that Geometron G1 has all external routing apart from dropper post, it goes into the down tube and goes up into the seat tube, does not go out of the seat tube at all, very well done.
I've had these brakes for almost a year now and I must say their stopping power is immense. The lever blades hold well with one and two fingers. The drawbacks: 1. The pistons get sticky very quickly and do actuate evenly, even if you thoroughly clean them, degrease and lubricate with a bit of brake oil. Also, cleaning the pistons is tricky because it's fiddly to block three pistons and have just one exposed at a time for cleaning.
Nice video sir...I ordered rotors,brakes and adapters
I looked into those III Pro brakes and saw that they use the Shimano BH59 barb which means they use the BH59 brake hose which is used on the lower end Shimano brakes like the MT 200, etc... The higher end Shimano brakes use the BH90 hose which is stiffer and has a smaller internal diameter for fluid flow. I am willing to bet that these brakes will not reach their full potential with the hose that comes with them. It would be an interesting experiment to swap the hoses and see if they inprove and if so, how much.
@unclejohn5012
Жыл бұрын
Does the BH90 Olive and hose fit into a BH59 Port? You have me intrigued!
@grantprice1932
Жыл бұрын
Looks like I'm going to go ahead and try with original hoses then try and swap them to the BH90 and see if it fits....
Try the avid BB7 levers on the mechanical brakes! Adjustable pull ratio and really comfortable.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Nice, we got some avid ones sent to us a while back! Chuck U hooked us up...Hmmmm
I'm running with Magura HS Trail sports - 4 pots in the front, 2 in the back - they aren't cable actuated, though, but swapping levers is a feature for almost all if not all Magura Disk brakes. They actuate a rod which actuates the hydraulic system in the lever. I got them in a deep sale + a scratch refund for 99€, btw, but the normal price is usually around 170-180€ as well. Braking power is a massive improvement over the original MT-200 on the bike - Magura Pads take a long time to bed in, though. 30 times slowly to full stop for each brake and they aren't kidding with that.
I have the zoom db680 on one of my bikes. Its a 2 piston mech brake, based off the TRP Spyre. For cable actuated hydraulic calipers, theres the Juin tech, Ferrino and TRP Hy/Rd but they are mostly used on gravel bikes
I really like the design of those levers, very clean. My new emtb came with sram db8 brakes, probably the ugliest levers ever designed. Typically cable actuated hydraulic brakes are used on slopestyle and dirt jumpers that are running a gyro. The internal routing on my Trek Roscoe is almost identical to the ascension and trouvaille.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, glad you chimed in about the routing! I knew it was somewhat normal lol. As for the cable actuated hydro brakes, that makes complete sense qhen using the "gyro" style. Thanks BERSERKER!! Looking forward to hearing him you like the new bike!! Gotta give you a call on Patreon 👊
@Ferrari255GTO
Жыл бұрын
They're chinese Hope replicas
The hybrid mechanical/hydraulic brakes are made by TRP, called Hy/id. The caliper has a built in master cylinder in itself :)
6:55 getting ready to smoke a sausage.😛
Good content
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 🙏
If you want to try a really good cable actuated hydraulic brake, TRP makes one that has the master cylinder and caliper all on the caliper, works great for dirt jump bikes wanting to run gyros...
Can't wait for the real-time review. I'm particularly interested because I'm shopping for a set of budget hydraulics for my hybrid build and I've narrowed it down to this, Zoom or MT200's. These sure look amazing but think I'll wait to see if these are legit.
@mikethomas6051
Жыл бұрын
I've used the zoom 4 piston and it doesn't brake like my m395, Shimano are very easy to bleed aswell.
My Lass has the same hair... but thankfully, not the same face!! hahaa
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh man!! Hopefullynot the same voice as well 🤦♂️Later brother, thanks for the laugh
Try Paul Clampers cable actuated brakes. Top tier and NON budget but the best! You might want to start comparing a high end, vs low end and then the middle. I have used Avid BB7 with a good lever and big rotors203/180 and really good housing, super slick and had great results
Internal Routing's not bad. They look like sintered pads though (metal infused). For mechanical brakes, A high tier one is Paul components. while a more affordable but better ones are avid BB7 or the shimano M375.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input man, the brakes look the part and hopefully they don't over heat lol. We here alot about the avid stuff 👍
Heres a tip for y'all routing that bs. Take some really small rope or twine and tie a small bit of plastic bag to the end of the twine and put the vacuum on the other end of the whole and suck that puppy thru then tie on and pull your wire or cabling with tape and your mint.
I would like to see some mechanical disc brake videos. I have had the same exact thoughts after having some budget hydraulic brakes fail on a build and had to swap them back to mechanical. Otherwise, I now just stick with Shimano mt200/201 for budget stuff. In true mullet style, Joe Dirt says: "Life is like a garden dig it!"
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 Man, that's a space peanut 🥜!
The silver and purple is looking real good! I can't seem to get any color combo working good enough
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. We are holding our breath on project Chong looking good with the strange color combos that we are going to have.😆
@unclejohn5012
Жыл бұрын
I just went with black. Can't go wrong.
Cannondale and Marins have the same down tube routing where the tube is only welded 3/4s
Awesome video! I have added the brakes to my cart. Haven’t been able to find if shimano pads will work in these calipers. Have you any information mate? Cheers
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Жыл бұрын
Super Close!!!!
This is good bike content I luff u
10:48 There are aftermarket options with fins being separate from the pad, so you can just buy new pads and attach the fins.
@Ferrari255GTO
Жыл бұрын
They're worse though, the thermal transfer is far, FAR worse. I have tried using thermal paste but it dries up and it stops being effective, maybe some thermal pads from memory chips or something would do it. I still use them because they might still help a little and they look awesome on my Sram Code R
Nice hair dude . Great content you 2 have
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
11 ай бұрын
🤣 Thanks man!
Those brakes look really nice. Really interested in how they perform. In case anyone was wondering those calipers are compatible with Shimano H03A-RF/H03C-MF pads. So, finding replacements won't be an issue. It might also be an interested test to see the stock pads versus the Shimano pads and see if there is a difference in performance.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Dude thanks for the heads up! We will have to order some now 👍 That sounds interesting, never done a side by side comparison 👍
@Ferrari255GTO
Жыл бұрын
As someone who's used counterfeit pads before, original Metallic ones or fron reputable brands Will absolutely DESTROY the counterfeit ones.
@unclejohn5012
Жыл бұрын
Can you confirm. I bought some J03A by accident without realising. So H03A etc will fit?
It pretty cool, you might not need to bleed those!
The Schwinn routing looks similar to a Specialized Fuse, which is a decent bike.
Can you keep an eye open on the rotors a friend of mine bought a similar 2 piece rotor and he noticed a bit of play between the parts after some use. They were on an enduro bike ...
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Will do man, thanks for the heads up. We will be checking periodically 👍👍
I'm looking forward for the review of this brakes, they look amazing, hopefully they perform well too.
This looks so cool guys i really cant wait for the field test well done guys THE best channel on the tube
Wouldn't the dual sided cable pull calipers be a good thing to try?
21:05 dude, I just, literally, just finish recording that video
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
👍Nice we will be on the lookout 👀
It was very hard for me to find a post mount 180 to 203mm adapter but that could have been during all the crazy supply chain stuff...
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Oh you are so right! Man remember hydraulic brakes!!
What’s up my man wolftick ❤and Wolfman
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Жыл бұрын
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@willardbuchanan9122
Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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3:42 You should change the position of the skewer lever, so you can easily get the palm of your hand behind it, it's very badly placed now. place it at the same angle as the caliper and the frame tube is, up or down, or let it point back instead.
TRP Tick. Cable actuated hydraulic brakes.
Found a trek 6500 had old juicy 3.5s on them should I get a pair of these for budget brakes to replace the old ones and could you recommend budget 26” wheels ?
The threw hole bottom tube looks 100% stronger on the Trouvaille over the Schwinn
The EH brakes? 😂 Oh! E4 brakes. 😆
Amazon’s iteration of Trickstuff
i got some 6 piston hydraulic brakes from aliexpress, surprisingly they are 6 piston, ill edit this comment if i find the link, i am using them on my 2004 norco aline paired with 220mm sram rotors, they work astonishingly well
@unclejohn5012
Жыл бұрын
So 6 pistons per caliper? If so can you link?
Those 4 piston were on my radar. Only thing I was wondering, are that compatible with sram handlebar mounts? It does look similar.
Nice and cheap.. Will they be any good long term? Can you get spares?
About internal cable routing IMHO there is not one that is good or better, is just cosmetics and a way to fill your bike with water. External routing makes repairs simple and less messy in case you are replacing brake lines. but that is my 2 cents.
@brianpham2584
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, too much marketing in place these days about IR. It costs more time and doesn't really provide much benefit.
@husky0877
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, internal seems a total pain in the bottom.
Mechanical brakes suffer from cable stretch, and cable housing compression, which can make them feel spongy. Quality housing and cable will minimize this. They can be bullet proof, and cheap. TRP makes some really nice mid tier mechanical brakes. Hardtail Party really likes the top end Paul Clampers. They are super expensive though.
@That_Stealth_Guy
Жыл бұрын
I've got a set of TRP Spyke on my 1994 Cannondale Delta V 600 that I modified to put disc brakes on and they are pretty decent. My only issue with them is the angle the cable exits doesn't work the best with the mount I used on the rear brake. Other than that, zero issues.
Love the hope tech 4 look of those brakes! The colors really close too! Only think that could Fook me would be the levers! Hope they work great
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Man us too, I really hope the pads survive!! 🙏
Those hydraulic brakes are basically just knock off Magueras
Those pads are the same as the finned Shimano XT, Saint, Zees. Resin ones are H03A-RF and the metal version is HO3C-MF. I can't tell from the video for sure but it kinda looks like the metal pad. A search for those on Shimano website will bring up a picture you can compare to your pad material and tell for sure which pad you have.
@Scott.Hadley
Жыл бұрын
Well let me rephrase that.. not the *same* but compatible with those Shimano ones.
@AndreasRavnestad
Жыл бұрын
I have these brakes and they're actually Hope pads. Shimano 4-pot pads are very similar, but just a tad larger. They might be cross compatible, but I suspect that the Shimano pads are just a hair too big to fit in this caliper. I have both pad types lying around, so I will try it out next time I'm working on my bike.
Do you think these would work for a surron? And are you able to switch cables I want the back brake to be on the left
Does anyone know what the bleed port on the caliper and hand brakes screw size is? I want to purchase some spare lead screws just in case i lose one. Thanks for the great videos
Do you guys have a specific measurement of the piston sizes? I've been wanting some better brakes than the cheap tektros im running and the Amazon 4 pot calipers seem to have different sized pistons
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
You know we do not keep track of that?? We have got to start measuring the sizes for sure. Thank You! 👍
9:07 Do these brakes use bearings or bushings? bearings?
TRP Spyke mechanical brakes. Give em a try and think me later.
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Ай бұрын
😉 You got it 👍🏻
Isn't it troublesome to remove grips before installation? Is it psosible to install without removing the grips?
Do these use the same bleed cups as shimanos?
Them brakes are purdy
I’m still extremely curious how the Magura MT5 brakes perform. Would love for you guys to review them!
@lexusstefan927
Жыл бұрын
They perform absolutely brilliantly, same as the mt7 brakes. One upgrade id do to them is brake pad compound upgrade and they got more power than you'll need 😁
Cable hydros have the same problems as hydros trp is the way to go. Spyke bro
I'm still here from the pandemic
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, appreciate the comment! I love that you commented on that, we appreciate you and watching to the point we mentioned that.
hello, what kind brake pads needs for replacement ?
new viewer here. old school's banter just sucks lol, id rather here some knowledge about the brakes.
similar design to hope brakes, also branding on box same colours tht hope also use :( doubt they be available for long
I remember you did some zoom brakes some time ago... I got some for my Walgoose Ledge X1! Trying to do the internal routing and I need those things to make it work... so the end that goes up by the lever I need that part. Do you have a link where I can get the olives or barbs or pin....whatever they are?? The model caliper is HB-876 I need as well as an adapter to fit the 180mm rotor into the caliper on a used Rockshox 29 (Going Mullet on the Walgoose! ) Thanks for your help! 😇💪🙏
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
Man, congrats on the new BRAKES! So happy you are gonna do a mullet, let us know how it feels with a full squish. I am curious if it helps the pedal strike. Here is an affiliate link for both barbs and olives plus an adapter. Be sure to select the BH59 combo kit. The BH90 will be too big, thanks for asking brother. 180Adapter amzn.to/3wLg4LG Barbs Olives amzn.to/3RkimLe
@mrupholsteryman
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Thanks for getting back with me! The whole time I thought I WAS subscribed! Now I AM. Haha!
@mrupholsteryman
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Do you have a link for the specific tool for this operations?
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS
Жыл бұрын
@@mrupholsteryman hey brother, here is a link to that as well👍 amzn.to/3HnThuq
@mrupholsteryman
Жыл бұрын
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Thanks again!
You can get better pads for those mechanical discs and there not terrible with good pads
0:12 So you don't have the expensive Park Tool magnetic internal routing kit? I have the first version with 3, but there is a second version with 4 tools. But I don't need it, but at least I have it to work on friend's bikes. Butt so far none them have that. The tool makes it easy, of course some frames have very bad routing. some do it well. But the Trek Fuel EX I had was horrible, but I managed to get it done. But that bike was so bad, maybe it was designed to be that bad, problematic to work on.😀 Lets make it pressfit BB92 so you can only really use Shimano cranks, or bearings balls will be tiny, routing with many bends, going in and out, wearing the housing faster, making it rub., yea lets make the rocker link crack, and make the bike sway. I am glad I have a proper bike now. That bike was an perfect example of how a pricier bike can be worse, and be bad value, so always research.
You have a night time ride setup video?
WHAT?!?! Someone on KZread got their feelings hurt?! Noooo…😂