I cannot convince my dad that a windmill in the grill of your car is a bad idea

@antoncasciano8747

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@rklug

Жыл бұрын

Especially for those modern pedestrian crash safety standards.

@everettstormy

Жыл бұрын

@@rklug lmao, just chop em and keep on rollin

@travis2893

Жыл бұрын

​@@rklug I mean... don't be in the road

@explosivemallard8038

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, you’re dad is ever so slightly right. It’s a bad idea, but Practical Engineering made a video on it with his Ford Bronco. It does burn extra fuel, but so does an alternator. The propeller consumes a little less fuel to make the same amount of power. It’s not intuitive, and the gains don’t offset the dangers of having a big propeller on the front on your car.

There IS an alternator on each spinning wheel. That is the definition of regenerative braking but you still need to plug it in.

@RetroGamer74

Жыл бұрын

I hate that I'm saying this, but a prius. They were the first to commercialize regen braking, and they are hybrids. There are plug-in prius' I think, but let's use a 2006, for instance.

@The-t3z

Жыл бұрын

An electric motor is in essence an alternator.

@JohnSmith-xu7ev

Жыл бұрын

​@@The-t3z U mean generator

@kugelblitz1557

Жыл бұрын

​@@The-t3z depends on the motor, and it would be a generator rather than an alternator in most cases.

@kingcosworth2643

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-xu7ev No, a generator has to be brushed and produces DC without rectification.

This is why you need to graduate from high school, kids, no matter how many tries it takes.

@TheLastOutpost

10 ай бұрын

Yep Otherwise you look like this guy.

@brad741

10 ай бұрын

Graduating special ed doesn't get you very far or even the minimum standards of life. Must people have below math and English skills let alone physics

@Truckn_G

10 ай бұрын

I didn't graduate and I know perpetual motion won't work. A diploma or degree doesn't mean you're smart. It just means you can recite what's needed to know in order to pass a test. There's plenty of people with a college degree that think there's more than 2 genders and probably couldn't tell you the difference between there, their, and they're.

@peterpizzurro9410

10 ай бұрын

​@@brad741*most

@bshinn4884

9 ай бұрын

I know a lot of people that graduated high-school that don,'t know this. You need to want to learn, and you need to understand what you're learning.

As an engineer my wife's grandfather had to discuss a similar idea with me. He was so proud of the idea I just couldn't burst his bubble, he carried the idea to his grave and so will I.

My old bicycle had a generator. It put out so much power, that I had this awesome dim light that only worked while I pedaled my legs off.

@dr.robertjohnson6953

Жыл бұрын

And do you remember how much it slowed you down? Or or how much harder it was to pedal when it was working?

@davidchristensen2970

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.robertjohnson6953 Yes, yes I do!😅

@louisdefilippi8982

Жыл бұрын

I had the same generator thing on my bicycle. It added so much additional effort to pedaling that I used it a grand total of once. It really hit home the concept of how much energy there is in just a few watts.

@patrickhorvath2684

Жыл бұрын

I remember... I had cool dual headlights on my 20" bicycle , 2" rear slick, sissybar, apes.. Too much effort to pedal with the generator on..

@danielstorts5372

Жыл бұрын

I also had one on my 20 inch bike growing up but when I got older I put in on my 26 inch bicycle and it was WAY easier to pedal!!! That’s how gears work, ya know to reduce the drag on rotation. Just kidding, I had to put my bike in low gear to ride because of all that extra drag😂

That's why I put a 4" lift kit in the back of my truck and use 22" rims on the rear. It makes it look like it's always going down hill. I just roll everywhere now.

@EnviroSteward

Жыл бұрын

Countryside countrified genius. Get thise spinner rims too! They store the kinetic energy at stops and feed it back in to help you accelerate, when you start going again.

@llorttaf

Жыл бұрын

@@EnviroSteward That is an amazing idea 😅

@myoneblackfriend3151

Жыл бұрын

Smart.

@brentjones1765

Жыл бұрын

Cool I wondered why people did that?😂

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

Free energy with this one simple trick!

The first dude the kind of guy to plug the surge protector into itself.

@billymanilli

10 ай бұрын

Unlimited energy!!!

@RadialPen6262

9 ай бұрын

😂

@Lonewolfalchemist

5 ай бұрын

So what youre saying is It wouldnt work?👀

It does. It’s called regeneration braking. Also works well to charge under tow

@Metal_Stacking

10 ай бұрын

So, kill the tow vehicle to charge the car? Still a net loss lol...

@brucebaxter6923

10 ай бұрын

@@Metal_Stacking Kill the tow vehicle? Only if you are an idiot. Still a net loss? How is putting in charge a net loss?

@0Aus

10 ай бұрын

😅😅 it still loosing energy champ.😂

@brucebaxter6923

10 ай бұрын

@@0Aus What’s losing energy? The ev gains 3 miles range for every mile it’s towed.

@Metal_Stacking

10 ай бұрын

@brucebaxter6923 yeah, and it takes 7 miles of range to tow the ev 3 lol...

I'm glad you mentioned regenerative breaking. I'd just like to add that you also don't need an alternator on the wheels to re-capture some of the energy while breaking because the main drive motor can do it.

@lukealeckson3525

Жыл бұрын

The main drive motors in Tesla's do do it.

@lloydthegreat7851

Жыл бұрын

People that don't know about regenerative braking don't understand basic electronics.

@rodmarr1844

Жыл бұрын

..."braking"...

@zanelampen5288

Жыл бұрын

So the main motor on decel acts as an alternator? That's cool. I would have suggested the wheel alternators that only work when braking, retracting contacts or something

@anthonypelchat

Жыл бұрын

@@zanelampen5288 Correct. Likewise, if you wire up an alternator the right way, it can also work as a motor when fed electricity and then as an alternator when braking or spun using an engine.

Honestly, you could just say there is. That's what regenerative breaking is.

@alphatrion4020

Жыл бұрын

Not really, but kind of I guess. Yes its a generator, but it's using energy that would otherwise have been wasted. A turbine on the car would create drag and a drop in efficiency that would negate any power it would generate for a loss. With the braking aspect you've already expelled the energy to make the car move, it is just capturing it which otherwise it would be lost, the have high resistance and produce more power being harder to turn thus aiding in braking and able to get some back. No system is perfect by any means , figure one out and you're a genius.

@Gideon_Judges6

Жыл бұрын

That just wastes less energy when you brake. It's still a net loss. Ideally you should never have to break but you can't predict other insane drivers, the timing of lights, ignore stop signs, etc...

@ikatekeda6267

Жыл бұрын

@@alphatrion4020 I think the point I was attempting to make was either not clearly indicated, or missed. An electric motor, is also an electric generator. When the motor is being powered, it spins. when the motor spins without power, it makes power. An alternators when spun, makes power. You can also power an alternator, and it will spin. With some minor fenagling. It's semantics.

@usamonkeyso

Жыл бұрын

​@@ikatekeda6267you are absolutely correct and that was my first thought as well. A motor is just an alternator in reverse.

@TacticalReaper56

Жыл бұрын

Tit for tat type deal yea know.

The thing you didn't mention but a lot of people don't realize is that the more load the alternater sees the harder it gets to turn, so just because you can spin it by hand off the vehicle, that doesn't mean that's the same amount of energy it takes to spin when in use

"In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics." - Homer Simpson.

Dude just independently came up with the concept of regenerative braking. Cut him a little slack 😂

@TheDeLectronics

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@JaybayJay

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to say the same thing, but the old man is actually talking about perpetual motion so that the car generates energy as it goes and not looses any, but as this guy says.. When you add the alternator's you add resistance and you need more power to go the same speed as before, so you will always need to charge it somehow unless you can design a new alternator that has a 0 resistance.. And then you'd still need that initial charge to get you going.. I guess you could use solar for that.

@hairychris21

Жыл бұрын

@@brandongantt9343 what’s not true?

@MrBeetsGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@brandongantt9343 you need to learn how to read better

@hairychris21

Жыл бұрын

@@brandongantt9343 couple of points. A) I didn’t say he invented regenerative braking, I (jokingly) said he independently came up with the idea. B) Nikola Tesla invented a lot of cool stuff, but has absolutely Otho h to do with Tesla motor cars. Elon Musk just thought it would be a cool name, that people associate with electricity and innovation.

Let's talk about those windmills that use up so much electricity just to create the wind

@kurtdowney1489

Жыл бұрын

LoL 😂

@allenbrumbelow7351

Жыл бұрын

People don't understand Ev can't do this because it's against the law

@jarrodchambers9412

Жыл бұрын

I like to think we're blowing our Tx smog over to California...😂

@friedchicken1

Жыл бұрын

@@jarrodchambers9412 yes. and when californians come to texas to visit just turn them the other way so that they won't know

@deansmits006

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha!

You my friend are a smart man, I thoroughly enjoy your videos and your explanations are impeccable. Love this channel

I’m so darn glad to see that you’re still making people think. I have been an advocate of electric vehicles for more than 50 years and used them for work in material handling and transportation in plants. Your approach to making this work on an industrial scale using an auxiliary generator is the best of both worlds. Having worked as a logger in the early 70s I would have appreciated having equipment like yours instead of our old 60s pererbuilt and kenworths. That was when fuel was 30 cents a gallon too. 😅

That old guy is a direct descendant of the "inventor" of perpetual motions machines.

@whosapickle

Жыл бұрын

"Why do they need to plug them in. Just put alternators on the wheels." And with that, humanity's energy crisis was ended.

@inkmanro5844

Жыл бұрын

​@B with that we have zero use for 90% of our law makers. No crisis no job.

@MarioPerez-nz8xf

Жыл бұрын

Hello beautiful Honda on the pattern Honda design a braking system that recharges the car using momentum the momentum of starting up in the momentum of slowing down creating energy

@divine11278

7 ай бұрын

Everything thig DNT have to be electromagnetic induction! We can use Parmanet magnetic 🧲 Designs from d tire rim during design to roll over a stator just like motorcycle 🏍️ charger, now since it's not electromagnetic induction U wld use less kinetic energy Also Abt graduates & high school De is still room for new inventions, everything DNT have to be based on principles..... Brake boundaries

Hybrid and electric vehicles have been using regenerative braking for years by using the drag of the electric motors on each wheel causing the vehicle to slow down while using less actual brake pad and in doing so the drag of the motors is able to create electricity just like a alternator and have it sent back to charge the battery

@johnknightiii1351

Жыл бұрын

This is also why they hardly need new brakes compared to conventional vehicles

@bastik.3011

Жыл бұрын

Still they dont create electricity but turn energy that would be released through heat into electricity. But even there you have losses because of friction and heat making it not 100 percent regeneration. However since you dont need to use extra energy for it tow work its a overall win

@tyleranderson8634

Жыл бұрын

@Basti K. yea I should have worded it a little differently

@johnknightiii1351

Жыл бұрын

@@bastik.3011 You're just being pedantic. Technically all electricity generated is from conversion

@sargera1

Жыл бұрын

​@@bastik.3011 Cuz this aint goin to be a KERS Just keepin ya from burning thru brake pads n goin like Dom all the time

There could also be brushless set up in order to recharge. Use the brake housing as the inner for the brushless and the rim itself.

@MikeHensley-sc3ns

7 ай бұрын

Magnets and a coil of wire. U know it could be done… it’s an excuse. Just like the car made to run on water .. dude was offed real fast like.

This is a great exchange. I appreciate that someone is asking a question and the response is educational. Great clip.

@kennyg1358

2 ай бұрын

It's a great question for a grade 6 student.

In short, it takes more power to turn an alternator than the amount of power that comes out of an alternator.

@charlesdeblanc3386

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@tehclefty5317

Жыл бұрын

If alternators did create enough power, the government would never let us know about it & they would never create it. No money for them… Same as the water car.

@bryonkidder6199

Жыл бұрын

But a stator spins magnets around copper coils and it doesn't cause drag to spin it. A four-wheel drive electric car could have 40 stators, 10 on each drive axle

@andrewsad1

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@bryonkidder6199 the electromagmetic forces in a generator cause drag. It may not cause drag when it isn't powering anything, but as soon as you try to extract energy out of it, that energy has to come from somewhere-namely, the wheels' rotational energy

@godwinsboom

Жыл бұрын

@@bryonkidder6199 Here is a simple test for you to prove this. Spin an electric motor shaft ( like a 1/4hp motor) with the motors wires not touching. It seems like there is no drag because it's not doing any work. Then hook that motors wires to another motors wires. When you spin the shaft, the other motors shaft will turn but it will be harder to turn. If you put a little resistance on the second motors shaft, it will have much more noticeable drag. Putting output wires to charge a battery will also create drag.

This man was so close to breaking the “free energy” code until physics stopped by to bitch slap him 😂

@charleshaynie6371

Жыл бұрын

Gotta be a good way to lengthen the battery life. Nano solar panels

@WildTrek

Жыл бұрын

@@charleshaynie6371 a lot of electric vehicles have regenerative breaking which is similar but only in use when you’re breaking. I think charging is less of an issue than the overall battery life and the maintenance costs after 10 years. These electric cars don’t have anywhere near the lifespan of a conventional car.

@lanthanumlanthanium6373

Жыл бұрын

@@charleshaynie6371 There are, but anytime someone finds out, they mysteriously end up dead.

@elijudkins2578

Жыл бұрын

Lol I love it when people think they are so close to free energy. But then they realize they forgot to add resistance to the equation.

@elijudkins2578

Жыл бұрын

@@lanthanumlanthanium6373 lol, funny joke. Free energy doesn’t exist, free energy can’t exist, friction, air drag,(resistance in general) stops anyone from making free energy machines. Your comment is just downright ignorant and dumb spirited.

Ahhhh.... so clear & concise. And NOW I know. Thank You, Sir. 🤓

Exactly, we learned first year in electronics class, "there are no free lunches". Energy can't be created or destroyed, it can only change forms. Example: mechanical to electric, electric to heat, electric to mechanical etc. You will create drag on the wheels from the alternators or generators when in use. The electric motors already actually function as alternators when coasting anyways. It's called regenerative braking. They can slow the car by increasing the charging loads.

@carlgreen4497

Жыл бұрын

Regenerative only happens when breaks are pressed barely charges anything.

@carlgreen4497

Жыл бұрын

@ghost VA2PA We run on two energies the human which we get from food The soul I'm not sure I would say from God but it's the part of us that always was is and will be.

@infoSeeker007

Жыл бұрын

ADD the other factor to the puzzle. MAGNETS. ONE pushes ONE pulls. there's your North and South. THEY help MOVE the system. ADD this to the PUZZLE and THEN rethink your theory. Amen

@donniegombel

Жыл бұрын

@@carlgreen4497 scared to say it came from GOD? The CREATOR of it all? Tesla would disagree with the lot of you and he would tell you point blank that it is from the greed of men wearing purple for $$, pretending to be god-men that prevent us from having free energy. Really it's not free energy as such it's to be free to utilizes what GOD Provided for all mankind as inheritance. It all has been high jacked and a meter placed on its use by all of us. They are also the one's who turned people into believing in GOD and using our free choice given to each of us by GOD so that he is not forcing tricking or lying to us to choose him over the little dark prince of this material world. GOD gave us all the freedom to doubt, to turn our backs, and even hate him, Free Will.

@durden91tyler

Жыл бұрын

​@ghost VA2PA cute wishful thinking

What you have to understand is when a generator or alternator is powering something, like a battery charger, it is under a load. That causes it to become very difficult to spin.

@dr.robertjohnson6953

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The reason it does this is the eddy currents in the wires produce an opposing magnetic field. Which is why putting alternators on an electric car is stupid. LEt a lone one on each wheel. The Dunning-Kruger, I tell ya! !7;^D

@Will_Wel

Жыл бұрын

Hence, why tou only engage it during braking!

@Will_Wel

Жыл бұрын

​@Dr. Robert Johnson I think you just described yourself!

@dr.robertjohnson6953

Жыл бұрын

@@Will_Wel I recognize its a possibility. Please enlighten me.

@B-rad1

Жыл бұрын

​@@Will_Wel The electric drive motor does this already just by existing. It can either take electrical energy and use it to rotate a shaft, or take rotational energy and output electrical energy. This is also why most hybrids use the electric drive motor as the alternator and starter as well -- there is no need for several components that all do the same thing.

regenerative braking works wonders. especially going down mountains.

@PaytonMoore-sy2xi

9 ай бұрын

But how does that battery last going back up?

@petramundo

9 ай бұрын

you save going down. of course you use more going up. I live on a Mountain and going down 2k feet I usually generate to where I am at 100% with an hour drive. For what I drive its pretty efficiient. Better then my 6.6 duramax on my truck. lol@@PaytonMoore-sy2xi

Thank you for saying it so clearly!

*regenerative braking has left the chat*

@jeffreybrannon8776

Жыл бұрын

And if you don't use your breaks that often you get no charge.

@narwhal9852

Жыл бұрын

it's so small you don't even notice lmao

@hotdog9262

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreybrannon8776 it generates when you let of the gas

@jeffreybrannon8776

Жыл бұрын

@@hotdog9262 no you have to use brakes and left off brake to make it work.

@hotdog9262

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreybrannon8776 not true for many models. all you have to do is let of the gas and it start regenerative braking. this is adjustable

Love what you guys are doing to spread knowledge/awareness on these topics. I feel like your very pragmatic approach attracts a lot of people into the conversation who would teaditionally scoff at electric vehicles. Keep it up guys, got a lot of folks rooting for ya

@HORIZON8026

Жыл бұрын

You may not be able to create more than than you use but you could recover some and extend your millage but to engineer something like that into the system I just isn't practical that's why they did the regenerative breaking another company though did create a generator that rides in the suspension that seems to be another good way to pick back up some energy

I truly hope your explanation makes them understand. The Consensus on this idea seems to be growing by the day and nothing I can say will convince them that it wouldn’t work.

All these people bashing on this guy for asking a question about something he doesn't understand is messed up. This bashing causes people to stay quite and not ask questions and have the opportunity to learn something new. To the guy who answered the question without bashing on the guy, thank you for being a civilized and kind human.

Thank you for including the last part about it only works with stopping the vehicle

The old man is describing a perpetual motion machine which is impossible. Despite all of the Indian KZread videos out there lol

@kamikrazywarboy2008

Жыл бұрын

It's not impossible. It's improbable... But not impossible. I mean .. do you know how magnets work?

@DaDaDo661

Жыл бұрын

@@kamikrazywarboy2008 it's impossible under the current physics model.

@kamikrazywarboy2008

Жыл бұрын

@@DaDaDo661 Quantum physics ... It's not only not impossible, but as improbable as it may seem, it's entirely possible you invent the process...

@energytechnologies206

Жыл бұрын

@@kamikrazywarboy2008 only place it would work is in a perfect vacuum like deep space Hence why an asteroid can travel until it hits something like earth There is nothing to slow it down Even then a perpetual motion device is never energy positive so its useless The best we can do is work to make things have less resistance. Ie work to get motors that put more of the energy applied to motion. Less waist as heat loss / friction etc If you want make a fortune Make a wire that costs the same as copper but has near 0 resistance Eliminate transmission loss in the electrical grid

@kamikrazywarboy2008

Жыл бұрын

@@energytechnologies206 I always liked the idea of those Andrijha Puharich patents that Stanley Meyer used to come up with his car that ran on water...

The alternator would draw down power from the wheels. As a kid with dynamo powered lights on my bicycle when the dynamo was applied to the back wheel to switch the lights on, the drag on the tyre was very noticeable.

This is a conversation I have had a bunch of times . It's tough to get people to get it. Smart people to .

Regenerative brakes go brrrrr

Regenerative brakes work by reversing electric motors that propel a car. It works like a generator and feeds energy back into the hybrid or electric system to help replenish a little bit of range. These small boosts in battery range can accumulate and improve efficiency over time when used regularly

I saw this video a while back and I almost commented but couldn't formulate the sentence as scientific as that. Mad respect for you high schoolers knowledge

There are three popular types of electrical free energy machines: - Random spark plugs, motor innards, speaker parts, and hot glue. Powered by not making any sense at all so is not bound by making sense to physics. - Magnets that magically change repulsive or attractive strength on the fly to make something spin. - This one. A motor tied to a generator, converting mechanical energy to electrical energy then back, magically with >100% efficiency.

I just assume people that ask that question didn’t finish high school 🤦🏻

@Buzzard-wq1bw

Жыл бұрын

You know what’s funny about that is I never learned anything like that in highschool, I had figured that out years earlier from the internet, the public education system is a joke.

@toddamtmann3528

Жыл бұрын

​@@Buzzard-wq1bw FACTS. The public school system is designed specifically to turn out good factory workers. It's the same system, from 150 years ago.

@Buzzard-wq1bw

Жыл бұрын

@@toddamtmann3528 what’s funny is I am a factory worker, a machinist actually, it’s a small start up and we’re Trying to do things differently from a labor perspective then back in the old days. you are correct (and don’t take this as me being offended by the statement I’m not) but I think it actually runs deeper, the school system is designed to make good little obedient slaves with no creativity and no hope to do anything meaningful with there lives, it literally makes you hate learning, I have much trouble sitting down and reading to this day because of it, and it’s supposed to, so you won’t learn anything, and you’ll keep working till your “free” and spend the last 10-20 years or so doing stupid shit like going to the beach and sitting on your ass for no reason.

@toddamtmann3528

Жыл бұрын

@@Buzzard-wq1bw you are absolutely, 100% correct. I wish I had the ability to elaborate on things, the way that you do. That was perfectly stated. 😉

@brarautorepairs

Жыл бұрын

I never learned about the law of energy conservation in high school (I was too busy with engine bays and big headlights😂). I learned this from KZread 😅

A guy I worked with years ago tried for for over a decade to build a perpetual motion machine. He did not believe the laws of thermodynamics applied to him. He even convinced investors to dump money into the “miracle engine” project which was a modern take on “run water over a water wheel/pump that pumped it back up to the top” deal. He could not understand why no matter how much he lightened, streamlined, removed friction etc etc it would still eventually grind to a halt if he didn’t add energy to the system.

Because an alternator needs current to create current, use generators on the wheels instead. This is a method used by lots of sailboats, they attach a generator to the mast with a prop to charge batteries.

Hey, these are all the questions you get as a teacher in second yr electrical installations. Don't think their bad ideas, just the start of understanding where tech is at today. Smart smart people had to think through those "dumb" ideas 😅😅

Thank you sir. I had the same idea when I was 12 and an engineer walked me through this exact thing in the 90’s.

@dr.robertjohnson6953

Жыл бұрын

I walked myself through this problem when I was 13 in the 1970's. I figured it out on my own. It isnt hard. PAY ATTENTION IN CLASS.

@arrowjay355

Жыл бұрын

@@dr.robertjohnson6953 sounds like he DID pay attention, Doc. Congrats to you on figuring it out on your own.

@dr.robertjohnson6953

Жыл бұрын

@@arrowjay355 I, wasn’t referring to the poster. It was a comment to the average people in grade schools. Most, do not pay attention. And most schools dont teach science. They’d rather spend the time on gender studies. A completely useless topic, unless they include mental illness in it. Like people thinking men can get pregnant, and if a person thinks they are a woman, who are we to disagree? The truth disagrees. But I digress… indeed, he did figure it out. And there is no shame in going to someone knowledgeable to get the information. I applaud him for that.😎

@scotyluv

Жыл бұрын

​@@dr.robertjohnson6953 I never had a class that taught how electric cars recharge batteries. Especially in the 70's. 4 Alternators produce about 56 volts. You're saying that 56 volts of electricity would be consumed just from the power need to turn the alternator. Something that I can turn with just 2 fingers. Not saying I can turn it that fast, but saying it does take that much effort since it is on bearings and all. Has anyone ever actually tried and recorded the numbers? I'd love to see it actually done.

We used to have generators on bicycle wheels to power lights.

@evanasche8882

Жыл бұрын

Yes but you would have to constantly be peddling to make this energy. You're putting out more work turned into energy than the light needs to make light. You can't peddle forever and you don't get energy back from the light generator. You have to eat, drink, sleep, etc... you see the power always has to come from somewhere, and to get power out of a system there first has to be that power within the system to begin with. That's why ICE vehicles are so efficient. The power for the system is in a physically liquid state and depending on the fuel, it's very power dense. The electricity for our power outlets has to come from somewhere. That somewhere is a powerplant that is more than likely fueled by (drumroll please) COAL! Why? Because it's a power dense fuel that is cheap and easy to make. It burns really hot and makes a great amount of steam for the turbine generators. So no. EVs are not zero emission vehicles. And that's not even getting into the materials they use to make the batteries for the cars. I mean people really don't understand physics and how hard it is to make energy (especially electricity) without putting out some kind of carbon footprint. With the materials needed for "green" energy generating methods it still isn't truly zero carbon footprint.

@notsureyou

Жыл бұрын

@@AudioFreqx Wrong. I've used it, and the bike was definitely harder to pedal with it attached.... MUCH harder. Considering how regenerative braking is used to SLOW a car down, this shouldn't come as a surprise.

@adrianmora7033

Жыл бұрын

​@Evan Asche the way I see it, as long as you can find something to spin the wheel of the pulley it should work, so how come powering it with the rotation of the wheel wouldn't work? Genuinely how is is different than an alternator being driven by belt?

@adrianmora7033

Жыл бұрын

​@@evanasche8882 the pulley of the alternator* wtf

@maxpulido

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but you still have to plug the human in by eating food

If Uncle Si and Captain Spaulding had a child.... 🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂😂🤣

'In an isolated system' is the key point here. Pulsed motors are a different beast. I know because I've built a crude one that made around 110% output. The frequency has to match the wire length. So you're stuck at a constant speed which makes it useless for a vehicle application. But a solid state system topping up a capacitor bank could be plausible.

I find it hard to believe that some people don't forget to breath. This guy in his video is one such example.

@Norestfortheinfernal

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@trex9194

Жыл бұрын

Lol this isn't common knowledge. You want people to know this but they can't figure out what gender they are. They can't change a tire or drive stick shift. Heck! They can't even write in cursive.

@thenameismagoo

Жыл бұрын

Ehh. That's a bit harsh. His question is fair if you believe it was asked with ignorance. Most people don't understand that charging a battery via an alternator does induce resistance on whatever is turning said alternator. Ignorance is okay, as long as the ignorant are willing to accept the truth when it is presented. We were all ignorant of the facts of the universe until we came to terms with some of those facts. Lord knows I'm still ignorant of many things, but I am willing to learn and accept the general consensus.

@No_Fuse8771

Жыл бұрын

@@thenameismagoo I guess my age is showing. When I was in school one of the first things we learned was the laws of thermodynamics. I may be wrong but he appears to be slightly older than me, just slightly. Can't get something for nothing, so I just see that question as dumb. Entropy is a bitch. EDIT: I guess I better state I'm going with Rudolf Clausius's definition of entropy so I don't spark a debate.

@HBSuccess

Жыл бұрын

Breathe.

The best “hybrid/electric vehicle” design is the way the Chevy Volt works (Ie locomotive design)!

The fact that this needs to be explained...........

@amazoniancustodian

Жыл бұрын

Some just don’t know yet, it’s called ignorance. Some bash others for ignorance, that’s called stupidity.

@PeterParker-ot8pl

Жыл бұрын

@@amazoniancustodian yes but, there a base level of knowledge every human educated in north america should have ingrained in their being... With that VERY basic knowledge you should know you can't take more energy than you put into a system.

@explosivemallard8038

Жыл бұрын

@@PeterParker-ot8pl I think you overestimate how much many Americans pay attention in school.

@amazoniancustodian

Жыл бұрын

@@PeterParker-ot8pl Sure thing, though would you expect anyone to want to learn with the attitude you gave? No such thing as a stupid question, in the eyes of the ignorant.

@PeterParker-ot8pl

Жыл бұрын

@@amazoniancustodian just go to bed... Not everyone can be saved...

when I was probably 10 I went camping with my uncle. He had this radio you wind up and it would play for a few hours and as it played the handle would slowly unwind. I had this brilliant idea that we should get two of those radios and tape the handles together so that as one radio unwound it would wind up the other radio so then the two radios would keep charging eachother. I told my uncle about this and he got really serious and sat me down and was like “what you are describing is an infinite energy machine, many have tried but it can’t be done! I have been thinking about this a long time” he then goes on to describe the law of thermodynamics. I often think about how my black sheep of the family stoner uncle who my dad always made fun of for never having a job was secretly very invested in creating an infinite energy machine.

Still, you gotta love that with your loging truck you get to go up hill empty and downhill full of log. I doubt that downhill trip is free, but it's sure to be cheaper than the uphill trip.

Old dude at the start is the embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

@JT_70

Жыл бұрын

As are a bunch of the posters arguing in these comments! Lots of folks don’t know what they don’t know.

This video just motivates me to go fill up my gas tank

The 3rd law of thermodynamics also explains why time only goes in one direction. All other laws of physics work the same way backwards as forward except the 3rd law.

From someone who drives an EV, owns a company who installs EV charger (L2 and L3) and who has a degree computer engineering. I hear this point brought up all the time. I guess people really do think energy is magic and comes from thin air.

There’s also a company that recently showed a regenerative suspension system that I find interesting.

I love that electrical arc thing on the beam over your head boss. 👍

@omniperson1319

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even notice that. I didn't know you could even do that with residential grade electricity.

You simplified it for him. I feel he needed that. I knew this information @ 12 years old.

This is basically the same concept as my koi pond. I have a water mill that is run by the water pump in my pond that then spins and runs an AC Delco alternator. From there, the power generated goes through a voltage regulator and then a power inverter which then keeps the water pump running. Making a basically free circle of power. It’s been running for over 18 years now, But I restart the system every month

This has always been intuitive to me. I cannot reason why so many have trouble with it.

@metalsurgeon9196

11 ай бұрын

It's basically a mini hydroelectric dam.

There are lots of implementation using alternators on wheels that work. Simple solution is to use the alternators as a secondary braking system to generate power while slowing down, can also be engaged when coasting down hills.

@FidgetyGuy

Жыл бұрын

This fellow in the blue plaid is an oil rag pretending to be an engineer.

@TheRealStrikerofLife

3 ай бұрын

You just said what regenerative breaking us it's using the motor when not pressing the gas/power pedal to now use it as a generator applies for when breaking or costing in most EVs. But this uses the same motor.

The more amps you need from your alt the harder it is to turn. The field windings require a lot of energy and this causes torsional resistance.

They have regenerative suspension for semis now

@lisat9707

Жыл бұрын

Ok THAT sounds 😍. And makes sense! Would like a portable Wave Generator for cottages and camping....

@ianmcgowan4347

Жыл бұрын

Too little, too late ! Civilization will collapse before any of this pie in the sky green revolution gets into the real world

@everettplummer9725

Жыл бұрын

The resistance doesn't drag the engine, and actually helps with the suspension.

On some race cars we used to run the alternator off of the rear axel rather than the motor. This was done because the alternator robbedote HP being crank driven yet while axel driven ones were driven by the drivetrain and it's various heat ratios. You still loose power slowly but it's a race car so it wasn't driven for hours at a time

@ilovetheatf

Жыл бұрын

Might fuck around and do that to a lawnmower👍🤣

You can put one on each tire, and engage it when braking. Like most cars today already have..... You can also hook a belt system up to a tire, and hook a massive generator up to it with some centripetal force behind it, that can be engaged and disengaged with a clutch, and you can spin it up every now and again and let it rotate under it's own motion. It's been proven time and time again, but they all go missing.

That was very well explained. Thank you I always wondered why. 👍👍

There is also a physical load placed on an alternator when you give it work to do. I've experienced this with small DC motors which can be used like a generator. If you spin the shaft, there is very little resistance. Wire something up to it like a light, or some other load to power, and the shaft becomes harder to spin. If your alternator has a load on it like a battery to charge, there is even more physical resistance for your motor to overcome.

@vihreelinja4743

Жыл бұрын

Yes. this can be observed in a car also. put the parking brake on. start the car. then put the lights off. couple seconds later put them ON and you will notice the engine responding to the load generated by the alternator.

@ashforkdan

Жыл бұрын

Think permanent magnet motors no field to heat it up.

@johnnicholls6763

Жыл бұрын

​@@ashforkdan 💪🧐🤝

@TheRealStrikerofLife

3 ай бұрын

​@@ashforkdan Even permanent magnet motors cause alot of heat loss. There just more efficient then a normal motor.

Dang! I just came in from the garage, now I have to go back out and take all that scrap and zip ties off the car.

@russchiappa4870

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

It also takes an exciter wire to make the alt. Charge. Re-generative braking

I've tried explaining this to my roomate multiple times. "Doesn't it just recharge itself when it's moving?" It takes energy to push it. Takes more energy to crank a generator. It only recoups when braking recapturing energy. He's a contractor, you'd think he would get it.

This man was SWIMMING to get down to that tire XD

i grew up with that flashlight that lit up as you turned the handle. it charged a small battery and would run for like 5 minutes without cranking. always wondered why they couldnt do that with wheels on a car.

@LordBLB

Жыл бұрын

Kinetic Energy Tires. If designed from the bottom up, it could be possible. But probably REALLY hard to do.

@elijudkins2578

Жыл бұрын

Because instead of powering a 5 Miliamp hour battery. You are powering A 200 KILOWATT battery or MORE. The ‘cranking’ would take years if done by hand. Your dinky stupid flashlight is 10000 times smaller and weaker than your electric car engine.

@bobbabai

Жыл бұрын

The energy has to come from somewhere outside of the entire car system if you want to move the system (the car) on a road. If you put generators on the wheels, those generators have to get the energy from somewhere in order to generate electricity. If they are getting the energy from the wheels turning, those wheels have to get the energy from somewhere. Where do they get it? The car's battery pack, if it's an electric vehicle. Why not just use that battery energy to power the wheels of the car? That way, you don't lose any of the energy coming from the batteries as heat in the generators or the batteries you think the generators are charging up.

@drewp25831

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbabai downhills??

@bobbabai

Жыл бұрын

@@drewp25831 Don't you have to go uphill too? Does everyone on average have to go up just as much uphill as downhill? Doesn't that average out to be the same as going flat? And if that's true, where does the energy come from if all you have are wheel generators and batteries. Any electric car is going to run out of battery to move the car if it's traveling on flat land or going just as much up as it is downhill.

I had this same though over 30 years ago and discussed it with my electrical engineer brother in law who promptly told me the same thing this gentlemen did.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have had people try to convince me this is the answer 🤯. My answer to them was much shorter. "Dont be stupid" What they are looking for is called perpetual motion. It doesn't exist. Love your stuff,keep it coming 🇨🇦

This is like plugging a power stirp into itself and expecting it to have power.

@beyondbackyardcustoms3427

Жыл бұрын

If that's the case then you have to jump your car off every time you started it because therefore it would take just as much energy to start it as it does before the alternator starts putting out energy to keep it running how dumb is that what else is the batteries for

@jamesbarbee3986

Жыл бұрын

Quite close more like using a battery to charge a battery that charges the first one!

@Deepwaterjew

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbarbee3986 plug a battery bank into itself, infinite power. Lmfao

If you want to feel what it would be like to have an alternator/generator on each wheel, just let off the accelerator, and THAT's what it feels like (as regen breaking stops your car).

@tomb816

Жыл бұрын

That's not technically true. Regenerative braking only works when you let off the accelerator. The vehicle would slow down anyway, due to friction, but the regen system causes an increase and the vehicle decelerates at a greater rate. If there was a dedicated alternator/generator on every wheel, the drive motor(s) would need to overcome those additional loads as well as the original (vehicle driving as originally designed). This would obviously need to be in the design parameters. So, when you had your foot on the accelerator, you'd only feel what you'd always feel as the drive motor(s) would now have enough power to turn the drive wheel and the alternator/generator. Or did you assume they'd just bolt an alternator/generator to the wheel and leave the original drive motor(s)?

@mightyd42

Жыл бұрын

@@tomb816 My point was, that "extreme slowdown" with regenerative braking is the amount of force you would have to overcome with that setup. Which would most likely take twice as much power to still get the same speed/performance out of. So, rather than double your output and MAYBE get half of it back (plus the weight of the whole system), the more efficient design is to just leave that whole system off. You'll never get more power back than you put in, and anything you attach to your wheels to produce power is going to be an extra strain on your drive system to compensate for it, and that extra strain is always going to be more than you get back out of it.

@tomb816

Жыл бұрын

@@mightyd42 I understand what your (now) conveying, more than you know. However, my previous still stands. If the motor is/was designed/spec'd properly, you'd never know/feel the difference. This is all regardless of the fact it's pointless and unnecessary 😉

@mightyd42

Жыл бұрын

@@tomb816 haha no worries. My friend and I had been talking about that type of a system since middle school, and it took me a LONG time to figure out why it wouldn't work. My friend never got convinced >_>

@tomb816

Жыл бұрын

@@mightyd42 I understand what you're trying to say so you don't need to reiterate. However, you're incorrect. The alternator/generator wouldn't be competing w/ the regenerative braking. The alternator/generator would compete against the motor and only help the regen system slow the vehicle, sans brakes. As far as weight, I don't think it would be anywhere near what you think. Especially since you could divide it amongst 4 wheels (meaning each single assembly could be smaller, think motorcycle stator) or dedicate one to each motor (you could even build it off the motor frame/axle, to reduce assembly parts). Again, I don't believe any of this to be worthwhile, but it wouldn't work or act exactly as you describe.

Slight correction, the energy doesn’t per se disappear from the closed system, but it becomes less useful as it is more spread out, as you said usually as heat.

I resent the fact that you taught me something in a cool entertaining way without me knowing it. Have a Nice day Sir

Could you do a video on regenative braking and how it works?

@evilhamsterman

Жыл бұрын

Electric motors are basically just backwards alternators. Instead of using the battery to send power to the motor and propel the vehicle, you use the spinning of the wheel to turn the motor which generates power to charge the battery and at the same time it creates resistance which slows the vehicle. Instead of turning the energy of the vehicle into heat like traditional brakes, you turn it back into electricity.

@cmbells7736

Жыл бұрын

​@@evilhamsterman so it's kinda like engine breaking for electric vehicles?

@evilhamsterman

Жыл бұрын

@@cmbells7736 it is exactly like that with the additional benefit that you are also recovering the energy required to brake so you can use it later to accelerate again. It saves both gas and your brakes. My wife has a hybrid with 175k miles and still has 80% of the factory brakes remaining because most of her braking uses regenerative braking, it only uses the friction brakes in hard braking and holding the car at a stop.

@100GTAGUY

Жыл бұрын

​@@evilhamsterman the motors don't act like alternators but a generator, they don't require a power supply to energize their field like an alternator does when being turned by external forces.

Regenerative breaking IS an alternator on each wheel. People just forget that that slows you down.

True, no pipe hitter dreams, but regenerative braking, and local drives will be in the future. You said regenerative braking, afte I posted lol

I like the high voltage burns right above the first guys head.

The old man here is the POSTER CHILD for the DUNNING-KRUGER effect.

EVs basically do have alternators to recover energy when you're braking

@mofayer

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but at a loss, not gain.

@semiprofessional8470

Жыл бұрын

That's the regenerative braking he talks about at the end. And it's proven that they don't recover enough power to even make up for their own weight

@adrianmora7033

Жыл бұрын

EVs are shit

Regen braking works due to the energy in the velocity and momentum of the vehicle.

Teslas use a system called regenerative braking. The wheels literally recharge the batteries of the car when they are spinning, but the vehicle must be in motion, and you must apply the brakes.

Man, my buddies dad is a similar age to that bloke and he asked me the same question, and I gave him the same answer. My answer didn't really stop him from thinking he had stumbled upon the solution to the world's problems and likely a conspiracy theory by someone trying to keep the man down.

@jegr3398

Жыл бұрын

I love it when an average Joe thinks they came up with some major breakthrough, but the sad reality it they just don't have a solid understanding of the thing they're talking about. Like do you really think you thought of something that all the scientists and engineers who are specialized in that field haven't thought of?

@blue03r6

Жыл бұрын

​​@@jegr3398 you mean like using coal and natural gas powered electric cars?😂. They are not green. The only way electric cars are green is if they are only charged via solar or wind. But then you have all the mining for the cobalt ect for the batteries. All of this negates all advantages the electric car offers.

Thank you Chase. A real man is a wise teacher. Not a hater... teachers have patience and explain Why.. Thank you..

@blue03r6

Жыл бұрын

People who can, do. People who can't, teach.

The regenerative action is used when the car has to slowdown when applying the brake system and may have a generator to absorbe that energy

When the farm guy has PHD

First thing we learned in electronics engineering class was you can’t get something for nothing. There are always losses. Whether mechanical, electrical, or heat. All motion costs something. The only time an action is not costing something, is when the item is at rest

@CD-vb9fi

Жыл бұрын

Objects at rest still cost something... they just cost a lot less... but it never goes to 0 cost. Just their presence creates displacement on some level and there is a cost of some kind to that.

Well I have mounted two alternators driving off the yoke of the rear end , works great .

@mriopelle33

Жыл бұрын

Need videos

@ryansmiley5495

Жыл бұрын

That's stupid, just get a higher amp alternator.

@backyardbuilttrucks1

11 ай бұрын

​@@ryansmiley5495 Not stupid at all , in very old cars made into a streetrod space is limited. A pulley on driveshaft yoke alternator mounted to 3rd member housing a short belt works great. The short time stopped at a light does not affect a thing. Speedway motors sells the kit and i run 220 amp CS-130 alternators .

@backyardbuilttrucks1

11 ай бұрын

When you figure out climate change is a legal money laundering scheme then you will see why electric cars are just that.

Your close to creating that power keep thinking bro

The wheels on electric vehicles usually have regen braking. That force charges. Because inertia is moving the vehicle.

What’s scary is a man that old of age doesn’t understand this

@daveminuet8114

Жыл бұрын

In fairness there are cars that have hybrid but still plug in. And i think he was talking about regenerative braking

Yes your right but you can extent the range by running a alternator and gearing it down reducing the amount of energy required to spin it 😊

@henryhenry3832

Жыл бұрын

Wrong because every gear set looses energy due to friction, you would end up with a net loss either way because even the best alternator out there is only 98% efficient, and every gear set would make it turn slower and become less efficient due to frictional losses

@NG-VQ37VHR

Жыл бұрын

Your method has the same exact problem and misunderstandings as the old guy in the video. You can't create free energy with gears either.

@maldo72

Жыл бұрын

@@NG-VQ37VHR Yes you are correct I was wrong about my initial thoughts about the topic

@barrishautomotive

Жыл бұрын

​@maldo72 holy crap. Everyone stop and take note. A guy said something incorrect, was corrected, and then admitted his mistake and acknowledged the correction. I believe this is the first time in the history of the internet this has occurred. Maldo72, you are a pioneer and I salute you.

HEV tech here and it’s not an alternator, it’s a stator being used in regen braking systems. They do not engage until there’s a net negative need for power. In fact in normal driving conditions, the average hybrids brakes don’t even engage until it’s around 5mph or less. On a side note this is why hybrid brakes can go 200k OEM.

This video motivates me to keep drivin my Impala

If the motor turns. and it does, it can be made to turn a pully that attaches to an alternator that attaches to the battery.