Do you have benchmark and thermal data with this waterblock installed?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏Yes, I do. I did the thermals during the maintenance episode that allowed me to take the card out. Here is the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4WBp9iRlcTAeqQ.html

@cristiandeejaysgame459

Жыл бұрын

mine in game maximum temperature 49/50, instead in normal use 28 degrees!

first watercooled 4090 vid I've found. Just gave you a sub

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it and thank you for watching. 🙏 Stay tuned as I just finished the footage for this card in a custom loop w/ optimus cpu block and reservoir/pump combo and 2x heatkiller 360-L rads for cooling. Vertically mounted upside down in a Lian Li o11D EVO 🙌

@reloadedjulio

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork ik I can search it up but what’s the thickness of this waterblock? R the PCBs in the 40 series similar to the 30 series where some companies use the same reference cards as each other? Cheers.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@reloadedjulio Thanks for your question 🙏 This is a 2-slot card. For the thickness of the block, I think you would want more precise measurements, but the thickness is about 1cm from what I can tell. Yea, the 40-series is the same as the 30-series where some partners will use NVIDIA's reference design like PNY and others will customize the design like Asus/MSI/Gigabyte and NVIDIA has their own design like the Founders Edition. Hope that helps.

Very nice looking block. Alphacool makes great stuff. EK is overpriced as hell and you need to purchase a backplate seperate.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 I have been pleasantly surprised at Alphacool and its why I decided to get this block. They outdid themselves this time around, improving in several areas. I still prefer Heatkiller but it is more expensive and they didn't seem to have anything at release. EKWB, I have had quality issues with more than 1 of their items. I even had a standoff break off and I was simply tightening by hand. 😑 Having said that, I try all the brands and I will continue to buy from EKWB them because I think they have some interesting products and designs.

@tr3v98

Жыл бұрын

No the backplate is sold with it but you have to pay more if you want the active backplate.

@mikemoore5270

Жыл бұрын

@@tr3v98 The backplates from the first run of last gen EK quantum vector blocks, were sold separately.

Thanks for the guide. I got this exact card and cooler. Can't wait for it to get here so I can add it to my build. I was able to pick up the card for 1450 on eBay. No overclocking or frills but still a very solid card at a good price.

@vectornetwork

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏Congrats on your card that sounds like an amazing deal. Thanks again for watching and commenting

Thanks for showing how to ensamble this. I'm a bit scared of doing all of this, but your video made me realize that isn't as hard as I originally thought. Would have loved to see how you removed the included fans tho

@vectornetwork

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏I'm trying my best to de-mystify the whole process. My more current videos have better pacing and I hope you check out some of those too. I did a Teardown of the video card (I think that's what you mean by removing the included fans) on this channel, as well as other cards and water blocks too. Hope that helps

Like & subscribe for more content! 🙏

Good work friend, nice build. Enjoy.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 🙏 I hope you stay tuned as I have planned out and working on 5 more episodes on the way!

Think this would work with the PNY GeForce RTX™ 4090 24GB VERTO™ Triple Fan

Quick suggestion, as a potential buyer of the waterblock, i would appreciate if you measure out all the dimensions of the assembled piece, this really help me to plan my custom loop in a SFF build. Thanks

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Hm, I have considered this before but didn't initially do it because the (very detailed) dimensions and measurements are usually included in the instructions and/or support materials. However, thinking about it more now, there are differences. For example, I noticed that this reference 4090 is about 1 inch longer than another reference 4090 and it has a bit of an overhang beyond the block. Also, I guess the overall thickness isn't in the materials. I'm considering including this for future episodes. If so, what measurements would you want to see?

I have a newer version of this block but more or less the same and i had to leave the back plate off because its to hard to install the new way. It has to go on last not like yours were you can do it first. and i see a slight bow in the pcb I am scared for my 4090. Won't by again

Very pretty block

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 🙏 It sure is. They changed the front design to a single O-ring and allowed the chrome to shine.

Is the block the same as the one preinstalled on the inno3D ichill 4090 frostbite?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 🙏 To my understanding, yes. Hope that helps.

Ive got it on the way for my fe. Excited

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Sounds excellent👌Did you get the Founders Edition version (that they just announced yesterday)? Seems like that would line up with the timing on your comment. Checking because I've had a few questions and the waterblock in the video is for the Reference PCB and the Founders Edition is NVIDIA's custom PCB (not reference). Totally cool if you know that already and enjoy your card 🙌

show the water flow - rumour has it that it doesn't flow very well.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 🙏I am working on the build video as we speak. I hope to have it out by tomorrow morning. It will have footage of the water flow during the leak test. Not sure if the card being mounted vertically in an inverted EVO will cause any difference in water flow. I did notice in the press release that alphacool altered the water flow for this model. I also subscribe to Der8auer and tend to watch his videos all the way through 🙌 I think he mentioned something like that in his last video

Does this block fit the PNY RTX 4090 VERTO Triple Fan? Thank you.

@jonmartinklevjer9505

9 ай бұрын

@RafaElZgz Im wondering the same, did you find out if this fits the TF Verto?

@vectornetwork

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Yes, that is the card being used in the video, is it not?

@vectornetwork

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Yes, that is the card being used in the video, is it not?

oh, so the PNY card is hanging out of it, yikes, are all reference cards that way when used with the alphacool block?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏Good eye. That was the first thing I noticed when I saw the PCB for the first time. It was longer than I thought it would be. PNY added like an inch so they could put that red header there. For comparison, the INNO3D PCB is a true reference design. Hope that helps

Do you know something about the new alphacool core RE? Hope the the card will fit in it.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 I wish I did, but I do not have additional information on the alphacool core RE. A quick google search didn't turn up much. This block is fairly relatively small. Hope that helps.

01:33 why is one pad white? different thickness?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 I had to double check the manual to make sure I got this one right. It is the same thickness as the rest of the memory, 1mm thick. These are the stock thermal pads from the package. The difference is in size (length/width). They give you a variety of thermal pads cut to the right length/width and some are different colors. So, this one is just white but it is the same thickness. Hope that helps.

@Vector Network I just did the same build, xlr8 with exactly that block. I have 1 hole not lining up and the 2 VRAM (I believe) thermal pads are not touching after assembly! You may want to check and add 2mm for the B stripes, for same other stripes we have to pray.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment🙏First of all, congrats on the build. The block is really nice and the chrome is the most noticeable upgrade from Alphacool's last generation of water blocks. Hm, if one hole isn't lining up and the thermals aren't touching, then perhaps, there is a minor adjustment needed somewhere? It should line up. Next time I take the water block apart, I'll have a look.

@weltensegLA

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork Update: I used all wiggle room of all the other screws but the last whole was too far off. I took a tiny dentist-style drill and made a new hole in the PCB. Pretty sure warranty is gone now :D Regarding the pads, it seems I got an early prototype block that ModMyMods sold me. The latest manual doesn't even use the thermal pads in question. But thats ok because it was just the chokes (part of the VRM) which don't need cooling. Only Mosfets do.

@juanrondon3797

Жыл бұрын

Yah I had exactly the same issue but ended up using 2mm thermal pads which fit perfectly there, The screw that doesn’t line up is one used to secure the bracket, I used super strong double sided tape and works perfectly. Really nice block but yeah definitely needs some adjustment for the xlr8

@weltensegLA

Жыл бұрын

@@juanrondon3797 Hey thank you for responding! Everybody including alphacool told me those coils don't need cooling but the stock air cooler does so. I bought 2mm pads for that too. My card ended up having VRAM issues and the waterblock didn't fix it either. I'm expecting to not get a replacement because of warranty loss. Will see.

@SerchioQ

Жыл бұрын

@@weltensegLA The newest Alphacool block: Core Geforce RTX 4090 Reference Design has the same issue. There is no way to line up that screw hole...

Greetings and TY for the video! I have the same card and case as you and I'm wondering if you have to remove the 2 lower case fans under the vertical GPU mount? Thanks!

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment🙏 Thank you for watching and I do believe you have to remove those fans. If they fit, they would still be partially blocked by the bottom-side of the vertical mount. I have another video showing the installation of the block into the system, so you can see from that, or, you can check out this video of the Drain and Fill of the build that will show it installed and if can double check it'll fit. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X4WBp9iRlcTAeqQ.html

@tonycapil1022

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork Thanks!

Excellent content. Many thanks. I think this video already answers to a question that I’ve made in a previous video, but here it goes: will the reference design (FE) EK water block fits on this card? P.S.: already subscribed 😊 Thanks.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your question. 🙏 NVIDIA's FE card is not the reference design. It is their own custom design. They also provide a reference design to their partners that they can use. Some partners use the reference, others will modify it. In short, the FE water block will not work with the Reference design. It's a common misconception. Hope that helps

nice.. do you think the bykski 4090 reference block will fit ? i assume yes but... ok been looking deep into and yes the pny design is reference but the pcb is little longer.. thats why you have that part on the right sticking a centimeter about out and those two connectors on top..

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Yes, it should fit. Good eye. I immediately noticed that during the teardown when I saw the PCB for the first time. It was longer than I thought. The INNO3D PCB has a reference PCB that is about 1 inch shorter. PNY added that length so they could include that red colored header at the end. It did not affect the installation of this block. I haven't checked other blocks, but unless its like somehow fully enclosed, it should be fine. Hope that helps.

@HyrrokkinX

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork Thank you ! and nice channel ! keep up with it

Were you concerned about the lack of thermal pad behind the main chip? Also, did you install thermal pads on the front side?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Was I concerned about the lack of thermal pad behind the main chip? No, I was comfortable with the main chip being cooled with the active front plate. There is no memory on the back and I think the back thermal pads are as much for evening out the backplate as it is for cooling too. And did I install thermal pads on the front side? Yes, I did, I showed that in the video starting around 1:20. Hope that helps

Did you have any issues with thermal pads not making contact?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 I did not have any issues with the thermal pads not making contact. It installed as expected. Hope that helps.

@cristiandeejaysgame459

Жыл бұрын

I too had the same problem with the thermal pad which was not in contact, inside the box it gave instructions to insert it, from the instructions on the site in the updated manual they eliminated that thermal pad, however excellent temperatures, at the moment there are no problems!

Looks like the PCB sticks out a little. Which I am not fond of.

So after your experience would you say that’s most all blocks for 4090FE will fit the PNY 4090? I have the PNY 4090 and want to use the EK water block. Would this work?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 This is a common misconception that Founders and Reference are the same thing. For NVIDIA, they will have a Reference design that other manufacturers can use. PNY will simply make a card using that Reference design. Other manufacturers (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) will often change something on the PCB (for a lot of reasons) and that makes the design Custom and not a Reference design. NVIDIA produces their own Custom card and named it the Founders Edition. The two designs are completely different. AMD, on the other hand, provides the Reference design and also produces the Reference cards, so that can cause some confusion. But 100% sure the block for a 4090 FE will not fit the PNY 4090 (or any other non-4090 FE card). Hope that helps.

@jonathanhall5670

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork Thanks so much for the response!! In that case I will stick with what I know works and use the block you did in the video. Thank you!!

Hey man I have the same block and for the life of me I cannot get the RGB lights to light up. I tried using the adapter provided and plug in directly to the 5V it just doesnt work. Is there a trick to this?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Its really nothing more than that. I plugged mine into the 5V header (3-pins) on my asus motherboard and it lit up rainbow on boot. In order to control the RGB, I downloaded and used the motherboard software, Asus armory crate. Hope that helps

@Tonyplat98

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork I think they sent me the wrong adapter. I figured it out now thanks.

What is the exact model / SKU of this block? Thank you!

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your question. It's the Alphacool Eisblock Aurora Acryl GPX-N RTX 4090 Reference with Backplate model. I got it from the Aquatuning (to USA) site. The Item # from that site is 1023221. Hope that helps.

why do none of these videos discuss the impossiblity of plugging the rgb into a controller?

You don’t do testing? This is the first water cooled 4090 video I have found and no data regarding temperatures. So, how are those temps?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your question 🙏 The next video is the build video and will have temps. I wanted to get the water block video out first, as I knew filming and building the custom loop would take a few days. But since you asked, the loop is just finished. I ran Time Spy Extreme and the GPU maxed at 57C and the Hot Spot was 69.3C. I am running two Heatkiller 360-L radiators with 3x Phanteks T30 and 3x Lian Li SL Infinity and they averaged between 600-1200 rpm. Hope that helps!

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

PC build video is up and temps ended up better than what I reported earlier. Same test, 36C GPU 47C Hot Spot.

@chincemagnet

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork I figured temps should have been better, thanks for letting me know 👍🏼

Even though chrome plating is more resilient, I prefer the astetics of nickle plating... It has a warmer look with more "depth", chrome plating looks "cheaper", probably because of all the BAD chinesium car parts.... still going with the Alphacool myself but trying to wait for the "CORE" edition for my card brand....

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏My understanding is that Alphacool went from Nickel to Chrome for all their blocks for this generation. On the press release, its certainly presented as a feature. I can't speak for the durability but the chrome certainly shines more. I'm getting an alphacool water block in for the 4080 tuf soon, so I'll have an opportunity to test that one too. Hope that helps

@bitrage.

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork yea, I ended up going with the original version, the chrome looks much better in person, it doesn't look like I thought it would, u where definitely right, it looks good...

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@bitrage. Haha, my man! Yep, it looks good and lighting effect seem to be more pronounced too.

I See 4x 105x8x1mm Pads But Alphacool has only 2x 105x8x1mm?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Hm, from my experience, Alphacool provided enough pads in plastic.

@Trailerofdead

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork Yes …! ALLWAYS 😎👊

Links to parts would be great. Thank you for the video.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Oh yea, that's a good idea 🙌 I added them now, I hope they show up. Thank you for watching and suggesting! 🙏

@sagerdood

Жыл бұрын

Buy it from aquatuning

@Rashimotosan

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork don't see links!

on msi z790 you can put 3

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏

You should have used the subzero paste that came with it... its some of the best paste out

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 I will keep that in mind as I have been collecting the little tubes of paste that come with a lot of these products. I've simply gotten used to my big tube of Noctua paste but it should be empty soon. I do agree it would be potentially beneficial to switch it up.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

I only realized now that you potentially meant a link to the actual part (rather than a table of contents of parts in the video lol). The water block in the video is from the following link: www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/gpu-water-blocks/gpu-full-cover/eisblock-gpx/30435/alphacool-eisblock-aurora-acryl-gpx-n-rtx-4090-reference-mit-backplate

@cristiandeejaysgame459

Жыл бұрын

I used the paste supplied with the warterblock, it gave me the same application as that of the defective mx5, too plasticky and difficult to spread because it came off. I used the mx6 with excellent temperatures, in game I'm about 49/50 in normal use 28 degrees!

@sagerdood

Жыл бұрын

@cristiandeejaysgame459 interesting! I didnt use it with mine. I used Kry.. But every other time i used it on launch, it worked great

@sagerdood

Жыл бұрын

@cristiandeejaysgame459 ether way i took 10th worldwide on hwbot last season in all 3d mark benches with this block so needless to say its a winner

PNY customer service told me they don’t have any 4090s with Reference PCBs 🤔

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Hm, the rep may not be as informed as we expect and/or PNY could be right if they want to get very technical. They did modify the reference PCB by adding about 1-inch to the length, to fit that red-colored header (I think it's for RGB, but not sure, never tried it). So, it would technically not fit a reference water block that was fully enclosed (all around). The alphacool one was fine as its not enclosed. For an example, check out the INNO3D iChill water block version and the reference PCB there fits completely within the water block, which this one, you see about 1-inch hang out on the side. Hope that helps.

@dukdukfiredawg

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork

@dukdukfiredawg

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork I noticed the length difference on that website that hosts the pcb pics. I'm basically trying to figure out if the PNY cards will fit in Alphacools 4090 Eisblock ES. I'm thinking not since the G1/4 ports are at the end opposite of the display outputs and the PNY cards are longer...bummer, Inno3d cards are harder to get in the US market and cost more compared to PNY. Inno3d and Alphacool should pay Optimum Tech for his marketing of this combo

Woooow... please say me.. what is your temp? I have a 4090 INNO3D OC by Bykski Waterblock... my temp is very high .. 78 Grad 😞... I buy this too... I shipping back ... and now is coming Alpha .. I hope drowp temp so much.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 The INNO3D 4090 should do well suited up in the Alphacool block. Let us know the new temps. I'm optimistic.

@Trailerofdead

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork I Hope it so much …. I Hope … ☹️

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

I just realized you asked for temps. I am spinning up a test rig right now so I can provide temp information better in the future. For the temps on this block, check out the next video. As a spoiler, temps are good, was around 36celsius after 20 passes on time spy extreme.

@Trailerofdead

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork Ja, ich habe es im Anschluss angeschaut, und ich bin sehr stark begeistert! Ich hoffe, dass ich es auch schaffe den Block zu installieren, was NICHT schwer ist... ! Ich habe einige Karte auf Wasser gebracht, mit TOP Temperaturen. Ich frage mich nur .. warum sind die Temperaturen so hoch?

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@Trailerofdead Ich bin mir nicht sicher, warum die Temperatur hoch war. Der Alphacool-Block war eine einfache Installation. Viel Glück!

drat on acrylic is not my options

@vectornetwork

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏Correct, while Alphacool did take steps to improve on this generation of water blocks (chrome plating, better flow path, better O-ring placement), they are still using a predominantly acrylic top. While this clearly showcases everything, acrylic can be seen as a little less refined than as having a metal cover of some sort. There actually isn't that many options for the reference 4090 and the Alphacool core looks a little different but still acrylic. Thanks again for commenting and thanks for watching

bro the holes on mine were nearly impossible to line up. jesus christ i almost broke everything around me lol

@vectornetwork

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Uh oh, that doesn't sound right. Is it possible you're using a reference card but got a founders editions water block? Or vice versa? Founders is not the same as Reference for NVIDIA.

I would avoid @alphacool products. They have the worst customer support. I've been waiting over 7 weeks for repair parts on 2 new V2 GPU waterblock for my 4090 GPUs and still nothing from Alphacool support.! 💩

Please don't introduce a cut every 500 milliseconds into the video. It gives me epilepsy watching.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏I am sincerely taking into account the feedback that expresses that the cuts are too quick. I will do my best to re-think how the footage will be presented for upcoming videos. While I don't think anything drastic should be expected, but I do intend on making efforts to slow it down. Thank you for the feedback.

Nickle plated. Not chrome plated.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 🙏I just saw Der8auer's video where he said the Innochill one he had was nickel plating. I am subscribed to Der8auer and watch his videos because they are awesome. I got chrome plating from Alphacool's press release and their website. Press release I'll paste below, it has other good information. Sep 20th, 2022 "The new Geforce RTX generation is here and Alphacool obviously offers a water cooler for it as well. The cooler for the new generation is much more than just another Eisblock Aurora GPU cooler. It is the first step towards a new generation of Alphacool coolers that brings significant improvements over the previous Aurora generation. What's new? Alphacool will be using chrome-plated instead of nickel-plated copper coolers for all graphics card coolers in the future. A chrome plating is significantly harder and more resistant than a nickel plating. Chrome plating also benefits lighting because it is much smoother and reflects light better than nickel plating. The cooling fins have been reduced to 0.4 mm and the spacing between the fins has been optimized to 0.4 mm. This creates a larger cooling surface and provides lower flow resistance for the cooler, resulting in better performance. The water routing has been revised to provide a more even flow of water to the jetplate. The jetplate itself is recessed into the cooling fins and is pressed onto them by a new designed inlet with an O-ring. This ensures that the water is reliably pressed through the cooling fins. This also provides a performance plus. The Alphacool Subzero with 16 W/mk is included as thermal compound. This high-performance thermal compound is one of the most powerful on the market. For the voltage converters and the graphics memory, 1 mm thin 7 W/mk soft pads are used. In cooperation with board partners from Nvidia, the base of the previous Eisblock cooler has been almost completely reworked. These major changes can be clearly seen in the overall look of the cooler. Alphacool's new Aurora water cooler has been extensively tested on the new RTX 4090 graphics card generation and has gone through a long development phase to provide the best possible performance. The coolers are currently in production and will start shipping to end customers and resellers in mid-October. An AIO variant in the form of the Eiswolf 2 will of course also follow shortly."

Fyi this does not fit the fe

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 Correct, this is for the reference PCB. The FE is NVIDIA's custom design and is not the reference layout.

@sagerdood

Жыл бұрын

@@vectornetwork some sites have this exact part # as fitting the fe... aquatuning as an example.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@sagerdood Thanks for your comment. Hm, on Aquatuning, the part # for the Reference 4090 water block is 1023221 and the part # for the Founders Edition 4090 waterblock is 1023334. They are different and the Founders is not the reference. Common misconception since AMD calls the card they make and distribute their "reference card". Hope that helps

This is so stupid. My PNY 4090 runs cool as a cucumber with the stock cooler.

@vectornetwork

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment 🙏 The RTX 4090 is such an efficient card and appears to be easier to cool than the 3090/3090ti. So, its not surprising that a reference card made by PNY, with their experience in making Quadro cards, would run cool. I took apart this card at time when it wasn't yet confirmed if the PNY 4090 had a reference design PCB. Its potentially helpful information for anyone would like to install a water block on it. Less people certainly water cool than air cool, but water cooling is not without its purposes. Hope that helps.