Huge respect for Brown in his later years putting more of the blame on himself. Same with AI, it’s just sad pride got in the way during those actual years.

@handeezyspeakseasy398

Жыл бұрын

Same thing happened with Kobe and Shaq

@JawaPenguin16

Жыл бұрын

Gained respect right there. I hope he’s sincere about it

@Cashmoneez

Жыл бұрын

@Raytheslay say you’re short without saying you’re short 🤣

@luvmenow33

Жыл бұрын

Larry was an excellent game manager and a defensive wizard. I wish they allowed zone defense back in Larry's Day. IMO his teams already were top five defensive teams each year and the ability to play zone would have put them over the top.

@jacktyson8585

Жыл бұрын

@Raytheslay nñnnnnnnñnnnnnnnnnnñ

This was less a beef and more a relationship drama. Two people who clearly wanted each other's love and respect, yet kept sabotaging themselves with stubbornness and pride until there was nothing left of the relationship but sadness and regret. It's actually kind of heartbreaking from a basketball standpoint.

@bub6010

Жыл бұрын

You just described my first marriage

@redskullz1249

Жыл бұрын

@@bub6010 I imagine that describes more than a few people's relationships unfortunately.

@JC4.80

3 ай бұрын

Damn. That hits different

It was a blessing In disguise for Larry Brown, ending up with the Pistons after as there was no better team to have a team culture that fit his way of coaching the game really

@deionreed6124

Жыл бұрын

Larry Brown tried get Allen Iverson on Charlotte Bobcats at end of his career. But Michael Jordan and FO didn't want to sign A.I.

@noshotnova2432

Жыл бұрын

@@deionreed6124 cause he sucked, one of the most disruptive and overrated superstars in all of sports. Fun to watch, but ultimately Iverson was an inefficient midget who wasn't hard to shut down and deliver him and his "team" a loss.

@deionreed6124

Жыл бұрын

@@noshotnova2432 he I understand your comment myself I'm never gonna call a pro athlete overrated or a midget especially someone who achieved success A.I. did at his size. I get you may not be biggest fan but just to try discredit and give negative perspective isn't fair either

@noshotnova2432

Жыл бұрын

@@deionreed6124 true but Iverson was so flawed it's insane, he was "cool" and culturally he was loved. He still was a cancer to every team he ever played on. Very similar to Tyson, way more hype than substance

@noshotnova2432

Жыл бұрын

@@deionreed6124 a funny Iverson stat, he shot 38% from the field in the same year he led in FGA with something like 24 lol That is a hilariously toxic stat Imagine a little dude chucking 25 shots a game and missing over 60% of them Iverson was basically the NBA version of Julian Newman

People forget the end of the practice rant and why AI was really upset: “I’m upset for one reason: Cause I’m in here. I lost. I lost my best friend. I lost him, and I lost this year. Everything is just going downhill for me, as far as just that. You know, as far as my life. And then I’m dealing with this. “My best friend is dead. Dead. And we lost. And this is what I have to go through for the rest of the summer until the season is all over again.”

@nasholston5112

Жыл бұрын

Yup ppl focus on the practice jokes. But if they talked about the whole story they'd realize it's not funny.

@holstorrsceadus1990

Жыл бұрын

@@nasholston5112 nobody realizes that basketball isn't the most important thing most of these dudes lives. There are a ton of guys in the league who don't even like Ball, they just are tall and have peeps to take care of.

@teen_laqueefa

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, AI was great for the league

@Quebguw

Жыл бұрын

He's still a diva before his best friend dies That's why he never won a ring and left the NBA because he's an egomaniac who never knows how to sacrifice for the better of his team

@onebigadvocado6376

Жыл бұрын

100% AI was let down by everyone who let him take that press conference

2 very difficult, very talented guys. I wonder if they actually motivated each other in some odd way. Like they both swore they'd get the other to their side at some point.

@asecretone

Жыл бұрын

Iverson seemed stubborn to his last days, refusing to come off the bench regardless of his downgrade in skills.

@iAintSayDat

Жыл бұрын

@@asecretone It’s different when your a coach who gets results. Players don’t have 30 years to try to win and can’t jump jobs like a coach can. Coaches have more room to be stubborn.

@asecretone

Жыл бұрын

@@iAintSayDat the great ones are all stubborn. They become GOATs when they end up with the right coach who knows how to deal with them. So basically Phil Jackson 😆😆 at least recently

@asecretone

Жыл бұрын

@Raytheslay Ever? In history? EVER??

@tomdemay6147

Жыл бұрын

@Raytheslay Neither in top 10

Y'all talking 'bout beef? Not a game, not the game..we here talkin bout beef.

Iverson was insanely good, and there were legitimate reasons for him to be frustrated... he handled conflict like a child though.

@FalconPaladin

Жыл бұрын

Volume shooter. Those dudes are never elite. AI averaged 42% shooting his career, and if your Number 1 shoots 42%, you cannot win a ring.

@benjaminan1183

Жыл бұрын

@@FalconPaladin His efficiency was on par with Zeke's.

@maxmeier532

Жыл бұрын

He should have parted ways with the team early or make it a "him or me" situation. That weird love hate relationship can work, but when it doesnt repeatedly one just has to go. He could for sure have won a ring on another team. Metta world peace won a ring ffs.

@vickpanchal5559

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminan1183 Zeke played in an era where you could shove people mid air on defense, he made up for his efficiency on the defensive end.

@donnelladams8362

Жыл бұрын

@@janoycresnova9156 Yet he made it to the Hall Of Fame so his I Q wasn't that bad.

Not surprising. Larry Brown is a perfectionist. That '04 Detroit Team fit his personality the best!

@Rodanguirus

Жыл бұрын

Real shame he left them almost immediately.

"I'm Mugsy Bogues! I'm Mugsy Bogues!" I'm in tears.

I remember after Brown left it was just a turntable of head coaches for the Sixers. Randy Ayers lasted just 52 games in 2003-04, and Chris Ford for the remaining 30 games. Then hired Jim O’Brien, who actually led them to a 10 win improvement that next season at 43-39 and a playoff berth. They fired O’Brien and immediately that same day hired Maurice Cheeks, who GM Billy King said the main reason they hired Cheeks was just because he was “Philadelphia royalty” In his 3 1/2 years with Philly, Cheeks was 122-147 and never led them to winning season once during that time.

@trollkenobi6727

Жыл бұрын

Cheeks was a great player, but definitely had an inept coaching career

@Ascending11

Жыл бұрын

So, Cheeks was cheeks as a head coach? Lol

@ChiefBlue4298

Жыл бұрын

Thus is why Billy King is a terrible GM

@RobertsLyric

Жыл бұрын

They didn’t fire brown. He resigned

@JWex-jy7sk

Жыл бұрын

@@RobertsLyric Oh shoot my bad. Yeah some reason I keep thinking that was a firing

One interesting thing that got smoothed over with the failed Iverson trade: Matt Geiger didn't quite have a no trade clause, he had a trade kicker which would give him a little extra cash if he got traded, not even a no trade clause. That extra salary that he refused to give up was what sunk the trade.

@elliemyers6435

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's true....(Like, who would give Matt Geiger a no trade clause??? LOL), but it really was that small refusal of salary that stopped that trade from happening. Wild.

@chaosgreyblood

Жыл бұрын

Smoothed over? In football terms, that's more like they missed wide to the left! On top of that, who the heck would give a NTC to a regular ass joe of a role player like Geiger? That's wasted resources, if ever I saw such a thing.

@stvdog

Жыл бұрын

who was in that trade? what teams? who would the sixers have gotten?

@elliemyers6435

Жыл бұрын

@@chaosgreyblood That's Billy King for you :). I remember Geiger having a decent season (decent, by no means spectacular by any regard) for the hornets in 1998, and then the Sixers MASSIVELY overpaid him to be our starting center that summer, and he was so average for us. And he didn't quite have a no trade clause - he had a trade kicker that would've actually given him a bump in salary had he been traded, but, I guess he liked Philly & what we had so he didn't waive it and that's what kept AI that summer. Billy King was just an awful GM, but that Geiger contract was especially bad. A massive overpay, and he ended up as like, our third center by the end of the 2001 season, behind Mutombo & Todd McColluch

@zache5486

Жыл бұрын

@@stvdog Googling tells me the Sixers would have gotten Eddie Jones, Glen Rice, Dale Ellis, and Jerome Williams

I'm proud of larry for moving on and later getting a championship .. it was like a blessing for him

One of the saddest things in NBA history. I don’t know anyone doesn’t wonder what could have been if AI and Brown had worked out.

@cameroncarter2316

Жыл бұрын

That was my thought too, this is actually a sad story. It’s possible AI legacy would be WAY better if they had both realized what they had in each other at the time.

@mr.fancypants1524

Жыл бұрын

I just don't see it that way. What is there to wonder about? Larry Brown tried to drag Philly to a Championship kicking and screaming and Iverson wasn't having it. Brown won the next year with Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton in his back court and beat Kobe, Shaq and Phil 4-1.

@analcommando1124

Жыл бұрын

It was never going to work out because Iverson was the perfect example of 2000s trash basketball. Brown showed he was 100% right with the Pistons while AI went ringless as he was never worthy. AI was just the Harden of his day. Difference is 2010s and 2020s basketball is far superior to 2000s dumb dumb basketball. I mean there was a reason in the 2000s Team USA started getting spanked in international competitions by countries where basketball was a very minor sport or countries that had 1/80th the population of the US. Oh, yeah, AI sucked butt in international basketball as well.

@TheD1995B

Жыл бұрын

I still don't really see them winning a championship, but I put that more on Philly's FO at the time than anything else. If you look at those 2000s teams they built around AI...you can't tell me they were doing the best they could to maximize him lol

@redskullz1249

Жыл бұрын

@@TheD1995B But they were. They surrounded AI with hardnosed defenders and roleplayers like Eric Snow, Aaron McKie, and Dikembe Mutombo, who could let AI be AI. They was a pipeline of young talent to replace the older guys in the form of Andre Iguodala, Kyle Korver, Samuel Dalembert (a disappointment in the end, but the kid had talent) and John Salmons. That team was the ONLY team AI could have success. Everyone thought that when he got traded to the Nuggets that he'd finally have success because there would finally be someone else to carry some of the offensive load in Carmelo, but it simply didn't work because AI only knew how to be AI and that meant he had to have the ball in his hands to be effective.

That bit at the end where they each say “God put me with him but I didn’t appreciate what I had” was a knife to my heart. Communication and conflict resolution is everything in life.

Winning a championship, your way, right after quitting the Sixers, must’ve felt amazing. Big W. Edit: spelling

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

must've

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

@@GoofRebelMusic What kind of rice is your favorite?

@GoofRebelMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@jonhohensee3258 Glen Rice

I knew almost none of this story but still found this video is oddly beautiful, especially the ending. Two individuals who were as much their own enemies as they were each other's, eventually coming to find peace in themselves THROUGH each other, as result of their own respective self-reflection. Both individuals were made constantly aware of their shortcomings by the other, but it had little lasting impact. Them coming to these conclusions about themselves on their own, sounds to be what ultimately mended their relationship. Good for them. We've never seen enough of that.

@GR-nz3om

Жыл бұрын

As a Philadelphian that thouroughly followed the sixers at the time, it was the world's best reality show

@joseibarra7735

Жыл бұрын

Best way to sum it up

Iverson was really his own worst enemy. Never could handle conflict well and it cost him a lot through his career.

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812

Жыл бұрын

Plus he really didn't gel well with super white guy Larry Brown.

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 How do you know race has anything to do with it. Take your garbage somewhere else.

@Rickygrines

Жыл бұрын

@Channel Name don’t take the bait

@Earthboundmike

Жыл бұрын

would that have made them, super friends

Damn this sad story honestly. AI was my favorite player growing up, and like most kids, we'd often laugh about the feuds between him and Larry Brown and of course "Practice!?". But once Larry Brown quit and won a championship the very next year with the Pistons, a team that adopted his main philosophy to the fullest...yeah it made AI look pretty bad in the end. As much as I love Iverson, Larry Brown isn't the first person to say something along the lines of "He's an amazing talent, but he doesn't go that extra step to be the greatest ever". Kobe has said it. Jordan has said it. I'm sure George Karl has said it multiple times since he has the same philosophy as Brown...and had a very similar kinda beef with Carmelo.

The 2001 Lakers are one of the 3 best teams in the last 30 years. They absolutely steam rolled through the playoffs. Only lost 1 game that playoffs. It was Iverson and brown who gave it to them. Showed what could've been

@vegastjg

Жыл бұрын

and that 1 loss was after having 10 days off

@DMalltheway

Жыл бұрын

They lost one game which Iverson had to play the game of his life just to win in OT, only to get smoked the next 4 games with ease.

@GabeCerebro

Жыл бұрын

@@DMalltheway that is simply false… you clearly didn’t see any of the finals games after game 1. A majority were close to the end of the 4th.

@DMalltheway

Жыл бұрын

@@GabeCerebro I watched every one, was 14 years old. Lakers are better and they dominated, Philly did a great job defensively doing the best they can guarding the perimeter but Shaq was just too much.

@NotaPizzaGRL

Жыл бұрын

@@DMalltheway Watching that series and seeing the Lakers win hurt my heart back then. I loved AI and wanted him to shut up the racist critics so badly but they couldn't deal with Shaq Diesel. Officiating was sketchy at times too...

I wish the video was longer, just to hear what other friendship analogies Clara could come up with.

This is a Beef History I've been waiting for. Fantastic.

Said it before, will say it again. AI was his own worst enemy. His “Not the game that I go out there and die for” quote says everything. He’s die for it, but wouldn’t live for it. Wouldn’t do the disciplined work that isn’t any fun when the rest of his team (and the league) are doing it. Glad he understood it later, shame he didn’t understand at the time.

@shaneelhinds9084

Жыл бұрын

he wouldnt be AI if he did what everyone else did. you can say he could have won more rings and such but well never know

@dariuswilliams7509

Жыл бұрын

​@@shaneelhinds9084 Yea I think he still loses against the Lakers in the finals, the nets and pistons teams in the east still.

@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly

7 ай бұрын

Again I think of his draft class. Kobe also got heat for shootiing too much and not passing, especially not passing to shaq when he was at the height of his power. But kobe also put in more work to justify himself taking soo many shots. 2000 makes a day in the offseason, even after he won a ring his dedication to practice did not let up. Meanwhile Iversons camp would argue that his lack of practice was to save his body, after all he did play exceptionally hard every game of the regular season. However his career ended up circling the drain in 2010, the same year that kobe won another ring, his first without shaq. In hindsight, saving the body from practice did not seem to work that well when his game did not age well and Kobe ends up playing 6 years longer and only being 3 years yonger than AI

@aekaralagonisi

10 күн бұрын

@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly Small correction, 2010 was Kobe's 2nd ring without Shaq and 2nd finals MVP, beating a Celtics team with 5 hall of famers (I think Rasheed Wallace deserves it).

We all love Iverson, but let’s be honest. There’s a reason he was never was able to win a ring. Both of these guys were stubborn lol

@maxmeier532

Жыл бұрын

Not winning or winning a ring a lot of times is just, right place right time, especially in the NBA were there is so much talent but only one team can win every year. There are several legends, HOFers who never won a ring or like Dirk, who was able to will his team to a ring just that one time and barely against BIG3 Miami. When let's face it, someone like Dirk could, had the stars aligned differently won somewhere around 3-6 rings over his career.

@kevinbrezinski2544

Жыл бұрын

That reason was Kobe/Shaq. The sixers beat any other team that year

@mattcomer6379

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinbrezinski2544 Idk about that. Duncan and Robinson would have definitely been a matchup problem

@stubbingtonmarigold3032

Жыл бұрын

He was never gonna come close- basketball is a team sport.

@jamalwalker

Жыл бұрын

I honestly don't think so Robinson by that point wasn't any better than Mutombo and the sixers had enough bigs to stick to Duncan plus the biggest problem those spurs faced was their backcourt Iverson and McKie would run through them like butter @@mattcomer6379

“Don’t call me Naïve call me hopeful…. And pretty 💅”

I find it really interesting how Brown’s career, especially the latter half, was marked by a sprint of success, followed by him and the team growing tired of each other, and them all moving on in the end. Both he and José Mourinho in soccer are excellent coaches, but only have about 3 years until the era is over. Wild. [Edit: fixed spelling of Mourinho]

@bordaz1

Жыл бұрын

*José Mourinho* and he's even worse with the antics than Larry Brown was

Larry “He’s only happy when he’s unhappy” Brown. Two legends

Iverson will always be one of my favorites. Yes he was extremely difficult, acted immature quite often, left some potential on the table but he is one of the few rare players who was truly real. He didn't hide his emotions, he didn't hide his faults, he was self-reflective, he was and is the rare athlete who is absolutely honest. As a fan it was frustrating with him at times because of his attitude but I've always appreciated he didn't pretend to be someone he wasn't, he fully admits his failures, and also doesn't engage in old guy "back in my day" talk. He's supportive of younger players and the league and you can tell by how much he admits his own failings he's hoping others learn from him.

@Earthboundmike

Жыл бұрын

He was truly real? I, ok.

@tempota7792

4 ай бұрын

Sounds like he staked his stubbornness and difficult personality into the hill and is still being tied to it, 20 years later. Others have had smooth careers which they can casually look back in fondly, with forward pointing sails, ready to take on more challenges, while AI has always had a morose personality during and after his years. He hit every rock in his path while playing, and now he's looking and stumbling while out. Dude just wasn't a very smart player of the game of life. One would question if he'd ever matured much at all to this very day.

Brown needed a less confrontational way of getting AI to practice than just trashing him whenever he didnt show or put in the effort and AI needed to actually just put in the leg work outside of games with his team. If you truly want to win, you seek out all avenues, not stick to your guns when it is continuously failing. What AI did was, by definition, insanity.

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

You're assuming that Brown didn't already try less confrontational ways. Allen was the problem. He was supposed to be an adult, not a child. He got paid lots of money to show up for practice without someone trying to coax him to be there.

@hachibei4914

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the NBA where players have higher egos. It is not like in HS or college basketball where players can buy in together on what the coach been told to them. All I understand in nowadays NBA is that coaches are like selling their system to franchise and players on how they will play the game. But if the players does not buy or believe the coaches system, a team will implode in no time.

@MikeBNumba6

Жыл бұрын

@@jonhohensee3258 I think both of you guys are right. I agree with the op more though because not everyone responds the same way to things. Brown was old school and that didn't go well with someone like Iverson.

@petefish2472

Жыл бұрын

Larry Brown didn't love A.I .

@DMalltheway

Жыл бұрын

You think Larry Brown was tough to deal with? I don’t see Jerry Sloan ever wanting to coach Iverson.

These two men were more alike than they ever wanted to admit.

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

No they weren't. Brown was disciplined and professional. Iverson was not.

@DS00999

Жыл бұрын

@@jonhohensee3258 both extremely stubborn. And you don't get to Iverson's level of play without some discipline.

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

@@DS00999 Some discipline is not always enough. Continually showing up late for practice, alcohol on his breath, or not showing up at all.... That's a LACK of discipline. And there's nothing in this story that shows Larry Brown to be stubborn - at least not in a bad way. It's a coach's job to have high expectations of the players and not yield to the bad behavior of guys like Iverson.

I'm glad they patched things up. Personality wise, they were a mirror image of each other.

Everyone of you secret base folks are a treasure to humanity. Thank you. And keep kicking butt.

@kermitfrog593

Жыл бұрын

Claire's the best.

As a Philly native and fan, this the epitome of Philadelphia sports

Secret Base is a great channel with so many excellent stories. Thanks for all the content!

This is the best one of a VERY long series! From the narration to the moments of pause, very well done!

Brown just expected the most out of his players and want them to play as a team. As great as AI was, he didn’t make his teammates better and wanted to win but be the reason his team won.

I was waiting for this one to show up in this series. Really, I think all the other Beef History videos were "practice" for this one.

I see so much Iverson in Kyrie Irving that it's almost scary. The guy is so good, but can be great if he just listened to someone, ANYONE. When he had the best player in the world with him in Cleveland, he still didn't wanna listen, and it's the same thing years later in Brooklyn. Maybe 10-15 years from now he too will regret the paths he took.

Another great video, thank you Clara and the Secret Base team for doing such a wonderful job on this story. I have never been a Sixers fan, but I could not help but watch and root for them when AI was on the court. Such a gifted but troubled player...but certainly one of the greats!

You guys finally done it, I’ve been waiting for so long. Gold pure gold.

This whole thing is the reason Secret Base gets my subscription. Videos like these are some of the best things on KZread.

The Answer.. AI.. my favorite hooper in NBA history 💯 thank you Secret Base 🙏🙏

I love Beef History. I was 7 in 2001, so as a kid, we don't know the politics that go on in a workplace. I didn't know jack when Larry Brown was the head coach for Philly, only to quit, and then win a Finals with Detroit. None of that meant anything to me, but it's amazing to see how these videos help fill in the gaps.

the end was so powerfull!!! powerful words from both sides

I appreciate the early morning right before work upload. Makes my day. ❤Secret Base

Even though they were at each other’s throats a lot of the time, I think they challenged one another to bring the best out of one another.

I love all these friendship metaphors

This was honestly one of the best Beef History's I've seen and I'm not an NBA fan, amazing job Clara!

y'all just keep the bangers coming we aren't worthy

Great video... Just wish you had of added in the story behind his practice rant because for years I was guilty of media poisoning regarding it . Because it wasn't technically about practice but what he was going through at the time with several close people around him dying with one being his best friend.

@bikingchupei2447

Жыл бұрын

i mean that "we talking about practice?" was basically AI's attitude towards all the other practices he missed intentionally, so didn't change my view on AI, don't make it sound like he loves doing it.

@manatarmsslaps

Жыл бұрын

@@bikingchupei2447 nope

@manatarmsslaps

Жыл бұрын

@@bikingchupei2447 they had just lost in the playoffs bruh yet the media continued to focus on he Larry Browns ongoing relationship issues and him missing practices.. AI is like this is what talking about now still? He also just lost one of his closest friends and something else I believe had occurred and instead of inquiring about him personally, he's like this it what you guys want to focus on? That's what that was about bro..

@NotaPizzaGRL

Жыл бұрын

Even in 2022 the anti-AI agenda persists. Interesting video by Secret Base but you see it throughout this video. It's fine. AI wasn't for everybody.

I love AI but he handled conflict poorly

@lamchunting856

Жыл бұрын

He handled everything poorly though..

@donnelladams8362

Жыл бұрын

@@lamchunting856 Yet he made it to the Hall of Fame so he didn't play poorly.

@redskullz1249

Жыл бұрын

@@lamchunting856 Nah, his ballhandling was, and still is, amazing.

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

@@donnelladams8362 They weren't talking about his play. They were talking about handling things. As far as his play goes though, it could've been much better if he played as part of a TEAM.

@tempota7792

4 ай бұрын

He handled the ball fine, but couldn't handle the rigorous demands of an NBA superstar career.

I appreciate this videos. I mean, the are often well scripted edited and narrated. This one though, specially the pace and emotionless narrating part of it, I was not conviced. Keep up the good work!

I’ve been waiting for this one for quite some time!

Iverson is the coolest NBA player of all time. Moreover, he has a brilliant name, fashion and play style. The Sixers were really strong when Brown and Iverson were there.

@lamchunting856

Жыл бұрын

The sixers were strong despite iverson being there, his supporting cast were always described as nobodies when they weren’t

@Akaya7777

Жыл бұрын

@@lamchunting856 he had some great defenders on that team, but not a single dude that could create their own shot. They were a lottery team without AI and anybody watching knew it.

@Akaya7777

Жыл бұрын

@@janoycresnova9156 lol, very few players in history could have led the 76rs to a Finals berth the year AI did. What he did at his size is unprecedented. Kobe, Shaq, and every other player in his generation respect him and his game, but Im sure dudes on KZread know better 😂

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't cool. He was unprofessional.

Always loved AI. Much respect to Larry Brown too. I remember when all this was going down. 2001 championship was the last time I watched the Sixers.

It is literally the highlight of my week whenever I see a new SB episode! I grab some grub, cup of coffee... It's an event! 💯

Yes a Clara Morris video!

How the hell did Matt Geiger get a no trade clause?? 😂😂😂

@SmoothCriminal12

Жыл бұрын

It was actually a trade kicker, not a NTC. If he were to be traded, he'd get a 15% pay raise. Detroit needed him to waive it to fit him under the salary cap, he said no, deal fell through.

Love the content!! How about maybe doing a “Collapse” series on the 2019 Washington Nationals? ESPECIALLY with the now possibility of Soto getting traded: that team has been GUTTED in just 3 years.

@aj3upgrade

Жыл бұрын

I agree,I was just talking to my girl about this…Harper,Rendon,Stras(injuries of course) and now possibly Soto? A dark 3,4 years after that WS Ring😭😭😭

@josephmatron

Жыл бұрын

@@aj3upgrade Don’t forget the Scherzer/Turner trade that gave up 2 of their all stars in one move. Also the retirements of key players like Zimmerman and Howie Kendrick.

@pantherjoseph

Жыл бұрын

It’s way too early for that.

This was the one I've been waiting on! Also, those black Sixers uni's are still in my top 5! #WereTalkinBoutPractice

I think it’s really awesome the growth they showed near the end of the video. That beef was always noticeable back then. Makes you wonder if they had found true common ground, what they could’ve accomplished together🧐

The SS Friendship part got me... 🤣

After Larry Brown, sadly Allen's career never saw the same success with another coach. Larry Brown was the best coach Allen ever had

@RamanShrikant

Жыл бұрын

Allen Iverson had some good runs with Melo in Denver

@charlesconner9044

Жыл бұрын

@@RamanShrikant yeah they were nice together but that was only for 2 years. I'm talking about Allen as a lead guy

Very good commentary

Love your channel. Great narration!

We need more Larry Browns in coaching especially because he placed emphasis on team basketball,unselfish play, and defense.

Allen Iverson is not most known for the “Practice” thing. He was easily the most iconic player in the league in between MJ and Lebron. Whoever wrote that clearly wasn’t around during that era if they think that

Was waiting for this one and it didn't disappoint as usual...id like to see u guys do Jason kidd n jim Jackson

Great job narrating. Love the Hank Hill reference

Iverson truly is a sad story. His attitude and work ethic were so poor. He could've been one of the all time greats, instead his career petered out and now he's traveling the US signing autographs at card shows

@lamchunting856

Жыл бұрын

It’s gonna get even sadder, he inspired future players to play like him join him in the “greatest no ring” debate

@smoketownlive3732

Жыл бұрын

Is he one of the greats only I. Thomas is ahead of him for best little man ever

@thomasg2488

Жыл бұрын

Dude gets 800k a year from Reebok FOR LIFE and then gets 32 million in a trust fund they set up for him when he turns 55 in 2030. His story ain't sad other than a what if he'd done this or that in basketball. He got out of being poor for the rest of his damn life. He's got money and can do what he wants. And he's still remembered as one of the greats and one of the few to ever cross up Michael Jordan. Stop saying his story was sad, give me a break.

@slycooper1979

Жыл бұрын

@@lamchunting856 not everyone cares about a ring Jesus Christ

@JohnnyLodge2

Жыл бұрын

He wasnt a good shooter so his game wasnt going to translate well when his speed declined. If he had a better big he would have had more team success

A case of the wrong coach with the wrong star player. Both extremely talented and successful.

It's a sad story, not like other beef videos that entertaining, this is just sad, but at least they both end it in peace

Very interesting vid Claire!

Sounds pretty clear to me. Brown wanted discipline and teamwork, Iverson had too much of an ego to follow through consistently and ended up wasting a lot of his potential. It's really sad a top player can't understand the importance of things as fundamental as practice and working with your teammates.

@MrOctober44

Жыл бұрын

Kind of hard to say he wasted his potential. He's a hall of famer, 11 time all star, 4 time scoring champ. What more was he supposed to do?

@bigredog100

Жыл бұрын

@Jeff Norton idk, maybe be a bit of a team player more? Assists open up the offense game much more.

@NelGill1

11 ай бұрын

@@MrOctober44 idk… win… he only got past the second round once.

@MrOctober44

11 ай бұрын

@@bigredog100 Who were the great shooters that he was surround with? Eric Snow, Mckie, Ratliff

@hawkeye0378

13 күн бұрын

@@MrOctober44how about in Denver when the nuggets went to the Conference Finals when they traded Iverson for Billups after losing in the first round in both seasons that Iverson was there?

Great video but cmon Larry calling out once for mental issues compared to Allen routinely missing and disrespecting practice to go out and party are drastically different things 🤣

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

I agree.

@alexwinfield9540

2 ай бұрын

​@@jonhohensee3258 you are a🤡

You have answered my request and I can now live in peace. Thank you

Love Clara Content

Iverson is one of my favorite players of all time but almost none of this was browns fault. Iverson had no work ethic. It ruined his career and no one should justify his actions. It sucks man.

@DMalltheway

Жыл бұрын

Yup, if he did what Kobe and Steph Curry are doing and working constantly on making their bodies stronger in order to make them less injury prone he would’ve had a longer career and wouldn’t have flamed out so fast.

@redhorsepapi

Жыл бұрын

@@DMalltheway same with Russell Westbrook. I mean how do you go from winning MVP and then your game goes downhill from there? I wish Westbrook worked more on his game

@enjikap1217

Жыл бұрын

brown airing out all the frustrations and being weirdly petty about stuff like practice really did not help though. I understand that's his whole shtick, but it also makes sense why someone like Iverson chuffed against it like he did

@DMalltheway

Жыл бұрын

@@redhorsepapi That’s very true, but at least Russ did last long enough to be relevant, he just needs to be in a role now which he’s just a passer and spot up mid range.

AI was so unprofessional man. The tone here seens to blame Brown, but it's so clear that AI only has himself to blame.

@Akaya7777

Жыл бұрын

AI was very unprofessional, but he needed a coach that could gain his respect and make him want it. Brown just wasn’t that coach. I think he needed someone like Pat Reilly that could really motivate him.

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

@@Akaya7777 - Iverson needed to be a professional and respect the coach, whoever he was.

@Akaya7777

Жыл бұрын

@@jonhohensee3258 shut up 😂

@jonhohensee3258

Жыл бұрын

@@Akaya7777 nah....

@alexwinfield9540

2 ай бұрын

​@@jonhohensee3258 and you need to stop being a moaning d-bag

This the one 🔥🔥🔥

For the next rewind @Secret Base please do the Avs: Stars game 7 2020. Look it’s one of those moments while it haunts me to look back on but also it’s so mystique that it makes the heartbreak turn to admiration. We don’t win the cup this year if that Game 7 never happens

Imagine how amazing AI could have been with Kobe's work ethic.

@LakerBrian

Жыл бұрын

Man AI with Kobe like fundamentals would of been insane

@raymondsmith2040

Жыл бұрын

That's why Kobe's a better player than AI even though AI I think was more talented.

@thepiratepenguin_

Жыл бұрын

@@LakerBrian FR, he managed to take that Philly team to the finals on pure talent alone.

@redskullz1249

Жыл бұрын

Imagine how amazing AI could have been with mentors like Joe Bryant and Phil Jackson. Not saying that AI is blameless, but Kobe had the advantage of guidance from an early age that AI didn't.

@thepiratepenguin_

Жыл бұрын

@@redskullz1249 AI still had Larry Brown, who wasn't just a throwaway coach.

Beef History Idea: James Dolan vs all Knicks fans

@thedude3065

Жыл бұрын

same for Dan Snyder and all of Washington D.C

@MazeDaGr8

Жыл бұрын

Same for Dean Spanos & the city of San Diego

Huge respect for you to say, “hank hill voice” in 2022! I get this is a late 90’s kind of a recap sesh, but some of these kinds are going to wonder who tf hank hill is! And that makes my day. Dammit, Bobby!

Some new Clara Content? WIN.

Beef History: Dave Winfield and George Steinbrenner. Plenty of material there.

AI and Larry Brown were meant for each other. Dope video 🏀🏀🏀

@weeblackskelf

Жыл бұрын

Man they weren’t. Brown was precisely the wrong coach for AI, no idea why they did it, no idea why they stuck with it.

@underpressure07140

Жыл бұрын

Quite the opposite tbh

@MannyMensah94

Жыл бұрын

@@weeblackskelf who was the best coached that AI played?

@GetBackRy3x

8 ай бұрын

@@MannyMensah94coach Thompson

This was great. When are we getting the Bobby Clarke/Eric Lindros Beef History?

Great vid, unfortunate how that all went down, and Clara, you're pretty. :D

Alternative title: A respected old man having to deal with a crybaby in his aging old days.

If Ivo had a Kobe mentality, he could’ve won several rings. Everybody likes to laugh about the “practice” presser, but in context, the team’s gripes were justified. It takes more than just winning games to win championships.

@elliemyers6435

Жыл бұрын

So true. I'm a Sixers fan, and watched so much of this transpire from up close. AI is truly amazing in the sense that he didn't work particularly hard - barely touched any weights, almost did no workouts in the offseason and his practice exploits are well documented. All that said, he still got 30 a night in the NBA, which is insane. But, if he'd had that Kobe mentality, which you talk about, he could've been even greater. His downfall was his own, sadly.

@etrim4213

Жыл бұрын

And if he had Shaq

@arizonaFIREent

Жыл бұрын

@@etrim4213 for real these delusional kobe fans forget SHAQ was the overwhelming finals mvp all 3 years

Great job to clara on this one! One of her better scripts imo

Great video

Collapse: iverson and brown’s sixers Rewinder: the miracle of Istanbul Rewinder: 2010 World Cup final Collapse: how the Buffalo bills failure to win at least one of their 4 straight Super Bowls led to two decades of failure Rewinder: 1999 champions league final Collapse: how Arsenal went from the kings of England to middle of the pack Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: Alan page Untitled: Don Nelson as a coach Beef history: George Steinbrenner vs Billy Martin Beef history: Mike ditka vs buddy ryan Collapse: how the 2015 world champion royals were brought down by tragedy and injuries Collapse; how injuries, age and tragedy brought down the Larry bird Celtics

@melenzoferrer4786

Жыл бұрын

That of Celtics is brutal. Other suggestions (mostly NFL-related) Collapse: Legion of Boom or Atlanta Falcons after 28-3 Rewinder: Cam Newton's "business decision" not to dive on the ball, Philly Special in SB 52, or "The Wasp" in SB 54.

From now on I’m going to shout “I’m Muggsy Bogues!” whenever I throw anything to anyone.

love these

It was too late, but i'm still glad that AI admitted his mistake of not heeding Larry Brown's word. Also glad he's seemingly turning his life around in recent years. Anyway, can you guys please do an Alain Prost vs. Ayrton Senna Beef History ep? That would be nice.

It's actually funny, because AI averaged 7.5 assists (2nd highest assist average in his whole career) his rookie year. AI was actually a good playmaker, but with Brown he became a worse playmaker.

Iverson’s playstyle had a really short shelf life, his height and poor shooting in particular did him no favours. He would’ve been a modern westbrick

@SpeedySounds

Жыл бұрын

lots of people made the westbrook-iverson mental comparison when westbrook was on his triple double avg. first time i seen that comparison used negatively, and how it makes too much sense.

@jbtreshawn

Жыл бұрын

As far as charismatic yes but the league changed to his playstyle so he would be in the Mitchell booker Beal realm

@jtizzle124

Жыл бұрын

@@jbtreshawn You just named three guys who shoot league average or higher on a fairly high volume of shots. AI averaged 31% percent for his career on just over one attempt per game and many seasons he was shooting well below 30% from three. I think young D Rose and prime Wetbrook are a much better comparison.

@jbtreshawn

Жыл бұрын

@@jtizzle124 but you’re not accounting for spacing and the lack of true bigs. So I think his shot percentage would go up to about 43% which isn’t great but he’d just be a volume shooter Sg unless they move him back to pg

@remynogueira8649

Жыл бұрын

@@jbtreshawn tf u on Mitchell Booker realm man every mothfucka in these comments is just haters and doesn’t appreciate Iverson s greatness Larry browns a grown ass man who ruined his career and he’s not even a good coach

I love your videos so much

The Iverson hype was so big in the early 2000's. That man influenced so much.