Thank you, thank you, thank you. I spent my entire 20s at IHOPKC; was full time on staff, and led in internships & this has been hard to navigate, deeply painful, and sobering. Hearing from you all has been such a healing balm to me. Thank you for being the men you've always showed us you were and standing with the survivors. Praying for you all as you navigate, grieve, and process this alongside us.

@blessedbeyondmeasure485

6 ай бұрын

Satan plans to let God's church fight by itself. Satan's Tactics: "How to Destroy a Growing Church. " Rebecca Brown through her book "He has set the captives free. " exposed them all. How they sent their members to join God's churches and destroy of course is their plan. As a believer of Jesus Christ, It's so sad to see God's people fight God's people. Satanic churches must be supper happy now.

@Elrae77

5 ай бұрын

Glad u guys understand how this has dampened our faith. What else was this guy lying about? I definitely followed a man my bad.

@IMAGINENGINE

5 ай бұрын

I hear you. I’m praying for your complete restoration, and wisdom on how to respond in this.

@heidibrown997

5 ай бұрын

I too thank these men for wanting to do the right thing in this situation. You will have the Father's guidance in this, through this.

@jc9240

5 ай бұрын

Mike Bickle "Was" their Spiritual Father....I heard some say in this interview that Mike Bickle "Is" their Spiritual Father

I can’t imagine how hard it was to process this on camera. I love you guys. Righteous men are a refuge in this storm. ❤❤❤

@christiansmith982

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for offering your support to this, Shelley. I remember your roles at Onethings all those years ago and am thankful for how you led/facilitated on stage then. The more that former leaders like you that choose to use your voice to stand for truth and support others that are doing the same, the better. God’s peace to you in this storm, Shelley. ❤

@Ekosorski

6 ай бұрын

Agreed, had it not been for leaders willing to sound the alarm and stand with victims I would have lost heart.

@janeshlefer3791

6 ай бұрын

Thank you Shelly for standing for Truth and Integrity 🙏

@dzpwnfkaa

6 ай бұрын

@shelleyhundley1416 weren’t you and sarah sun kim allegedly told by ELT to back off of a unhealthy relationship with 3 women from ihopu because you both were allegedly exhibiting cult like controlling behaviors with them?

@jeffinthesnow

6 ай бұрын

This series is so important, it brings a lot of clarity. Grateful for these men willing to do this (at their own pain/expense). The only benefit of their action is to those they’re acting for… it shows their willingness to follow Jesus. I think this is happening (in various degrees) in many church groups/movements

I do not know Allen Hood, until watching this video. His heart is so tender and the love that spews from his heart is so genuine and Godly. The heart of the Father is so evident in this man. Wow, he is a remarkable brother in Christ! The Love of God in him is disarming!

40 yrs of allegations. Where were the discerning brothers, elders, leaders, pastors during all of this time? After 40 yrs it is brought to light. If these allegations are true then surely Many, many of those in the midst were willfully blinded and also responsible. Repentance and apology to the Body of Christ is due from many, not Bickle alone. God is sifting the foundation of this ministry to its core. Let it be.

@samulmagnus1

5 ай бұрын

💯

@heidibrown997

5 ай бұрын

Yes. God grant that.

@rmaresc1

5 ай бұрын

yep, not one pastor with all their prophetic knowledge and understanding, their touted powers of discernment saw any red flags for 3 to 4 decades?

@user-tl3mc5bz6f

5 ай бұрын

Amen!

@louisahuth6709

5 ай бұрын

Can't understand why it went on for so long!

The comment that Dwayne made about the number of people that have left IHOPKC completely wounded and bitter is spot on. I really appreciate him saying that because I have spent years burdened for the many people I have seen walk away from the faith after leaving IHOPKC. This series of videos is extremely needed and helpful.

@aileneshots

6 ай бұрын

Yes!

@percyjohnsoniv1794

6 ай бұрын

I am a member there. I have heard this for years and seen just a bit. Which is why extensive study in theology is so paramount. I noticed you didn't illuminate the good and changed lives and people who have converted to the faith because of IHOPKC. Hmmm, that's says some things. But never the less, we MUST keep ourselves in check also. I've yet to find a flawless church. But I'm not trying to wiggle out of our own responsibility to represent the faith at all times properly. This is something that needs more attention.

@1984SheepDog

6 ай бұрын

​@percyjohnsoniv1794 I would guess that there are at least a dozen ihopu grads from my class (yes four year graduates) who no longer consider themselves Christian. Yes lots of people have been positively impacted, but an alarming amount are now fallen away. Is that alarming to you that IHOP is not grounding these young people??

@blessedbeyondmeasure485

6 ай бұрын

Satan plans to let God's church fight by itself. Satan's Tactics: "How to Destroy a Growing Church. " Rebecca Brown through her book "He has set the captives free. " exposed them all. How they sent their members to join God's churches and destroy of course is their plan. As a believer of Jesus Christ, It's so sad to see God's people fight God's people. Satanic churches must be supper happy now.

@anthonybenko9861

5 ай бұрын

Btw I painted one of Dwayne's houses just off of red bridge

I cannot begin to tell you what this means to those of us that feel so hurt and left on the outside of something that feels so deeply personal. It is comforting to hear from familiar spiritual fathers. The clarity and candor is deeply meaningful. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am sorry you are in this position but thank you for stepping up to the plate in all the ways you have.

I appreciate this. And need you to know, there should be women's voices in this discussion. My entire life I've been a Christian. I love Jesus. The number of sermons I've listened to about women submitting is uncountable. I've heard ONE about men laying down their lives for their wives. The Body of Christ CANNOT train all of our women to be submissive, and not defend and protect them. Either arm girls with scripture to defend themselves and listen when they speak out, or defend them when men abuse them. Empower and respect us, or choose to defend us from predators. Women belong in this room.

@AuntBee185

4 ай бұрын

There were predators there from the beginning and they called them prophets. No women abuse counselor would ever have put any of these men in authority! Tod Bentley,Bickel prophesied over, had a criminal record for raping a child and spent his teen years in a prison,Bob Jones an alcoholic sexual predator were both “restored”. Thank God it’s over and exposed! Women are inconsequential to prophets and money. Tod Bentley raised 21 million dollars online so he became their darling!

@krisannette84

2 ай бұрын

The first video on this channel were women speaking.

@lindapreater840

17 күн бұрын

It would be good to have women and men together in the discussion

I was a teenager at the Summer Teen Camp at IHOPKC in 2004, and that was my first introduction to you four. I subsequently became a staff member at IHOP Atlanta a few years later in 2007/2008 and was deeply involved until about 2011. Over several years' time, I left Christianity & religion altogether, largely due to issues I noticed as a young adult during my time on staff, and how I was treated when I brought issues to light. The leadership was one of many reasons that the zealous faith I once had was utterly and entirely shattered. Although I will never be a person of faith again, watching this and the way that you guys have handled this situation has been profoundly inspiring. Your integrity and the way you have publicly taken heat again and again for something that should've never gone this way in the first place, inspires much respect and admiration. It's heartbreaking that simply doing the right thing is cause for such deep division and pain, but I'm heartened to see that there are still people of character in the midst of such horrible circumstances. Thank you, from someone who has long considered all of Christianity to be a lost cause.

@donnapotter8824

6 ай бұрын

I get it where leadership can cause a person of firey faith to lose that fire. I’ve been there and it’s taken years to get through all of that because I came to the truth that none of what happened was Jesus, but the demons they attached themselves to for control, manipulation, etc.

@rachaelalsbury1328

6 ай бұрын

I was at IHOP Atl at that time frame. Please reach out if you need anyone to talk to. ❤

@dinozoologist6118

6 ай бұрын

You are a victim of spiritual abuse. It is mind-bending. I know first hand. But it doesn't have a thing to do with Jesus.

@KristiLEvans1

6 ай бұрын

@@user-fe4pm7tm4nI love this response from you. God’s peace go with you.

@ezbless100

6 ай бұрын

It's rampant, especially in organized religion. Jesus Christ faced those same things while on earth and was crucified by them for their jealousy. Jesus never preached religion, He preached the Kingdom of God, which is an entirely different paradigm. In the Bible it says the government is on His shoulders, not religion. We are called a holy nation, a royal priesthood, citizens of the kingdom. It's a different system. I hope you find your way back to the Jewish King, Yeshuah Hamachiach. It's another system, another King, not a religious figure.

As 28 year old former IHOPKC leader, I like many others are asking questions around what does this mean for us? How does my generation not repeat the same mistakes that our fathers and mothers have. We need a new way of process that does not include cover ups. Thank you for speaking out, we are all watching.

@christoverculture8631

5 ай бұрын

1st - stay away from charismatic churches and anyone who claims revelation from God beyond Scripture. We cannot add to God's Word with men's imaginations. 2nd - form Biblical churches that are under a plurality of ordained elders. 3rd - do not set leaders on pedestals. Men are never our spiritual fathers. Only God is. 4th - always note the red flags in our leaders' behavior. Most of the times in these situations the people say they missed the warning signs.

@hilandovergaard

5 ай бұрын

Hi Amanda! The questions you're asking will very literally take a move of God to answer, but one of the fundamentals we need to call leaders to is shepherd leadership. Years ago I read Ezekiel 34:1-10, and God convicted me of how much I had made leadership about building my ministry and myself rather than sacrificing myself for the sheep that ultimately belong to Him. He continually confronts me with that still. His call to leaders isn't necessarily to build big ministries, gain notariety, or even have a vocational ministry at all. He does, however, ALWAYS call them to feed and care for His sheep. I've been under three major episodes of ministry leadership failure, and in all of them the sheep were sacrificed to the benefit of the ministry leader. It's dangerous, harmful, and disorienting for those who experience it, but the positive impact a shepherd leader has can equally affect someone's life and relationship with Jesus for the good. I prayed for you and your husband not long after I heard about the IHOPKC situation, knowing it could have a big effect on you guys. Jesus loves you guys so much, and His cross, resurrection, and eternal inheritance for you will not be shaken by these events. Feel free to hit me up if you want to talk more, too.

@kellydarrius

5 ай бұрын

I will say this: It is impossible to forever prevent evil. Sometimes, the system isn't the failure, only the people that make it. Some would suggest we throw the baby with the bathwater (as someone has already suggested), but there will always be false prophets, there will always be deception, and there will always be backslidings. To compromise any pattern God has left for us is to inhibit God, but still, I would add some practical advice: 1. Prophecy should largely be public to the church as a whole (the scripture says, let two or three prophesy and let the others judge) 2. Men should not be one on one with women or vice versa 3. There should be mature leadership alongside any pastor that is mature enough in the Lord to be able to snuff out things like this. Ministry is not a solo effort. It is a body effort, and therefore, others should be involved at a minimum. I would say, the failure in the previous generation is a call to the next to seek God and be serious to rid ourselves of our sinful weaknesses by the grace of God and search our hearts so he can refine us and build our character.

@jc9240

5 ай бұрын

Mike Bickle "Was" their Spiritual Father....I heard some say in this interview that Mike Bickle "Is" their Spiritual Father

@kellydarrius

5 ай бұрын

@jc9240 Maybe he "is" because he already played that role in their life. I don't see why we need to be so rigid with words. They clearly all have renouced his character and believe him to be hellbound

True men of God that taught me so much while I was at IHOP and are continuing to do so now. IHOP leadership may be failing but I see yours shining the love of God and the heart of Jesus to never leave the women hurting. I am broken for the true Jane Does of this but I am praying that all the victims feel the love of Christ through your relentless pursuit of justice on their behalf’s.

@abhirai6124

6 ай бұрын

❤ true

I’ve never been a fan of IHOP. That said, I’ve become invested with this current situation because I’m a victim of spiritual and sexual abuse by a church leader…a pastor’s wife who was in my mind a spiritual mother. I can relate to your feelings here, especially with Allen Hood. It’s the absolute worst feeling in the world to wake up and realize the person who discipled you was in actuality, a wolf and predator. It’s like a continual, never ending, gut punch. What helped me was a strong support system (praise GOD for your advocacy!!), and learning about grooming. I’ve spent s lot of time researching cult leaders. It helped me to see what tactics she used with me because then I could stop being vulnerable to future abuses. And most of all, share my testimony to help others see red flags in leaders. So continue on this journey in the humility and fear of the Holy God we serve! I am praying for you all!! I’m willing to share my life experience if it would benefit anyone involved. See Cara’s Inner Healing Horror.

@caramares2669

5 ай бұрын

@@mvg5165 I read the Bible daily, thank you. The God I read about is close to the brokenhearted and definitely doesn’t like wolves in sheep’s clothing. Not sure why you’re trying to drive home a point that victims don’t exist. It’s just weird and ignorant.

@caramares2669

5 ай бұрын

@@mvg5165 it’s really sad and pathetic that you have no clue what abuse is. I’ve repented for MY sins. I’ve received healing for the ones done against me. My abuser is responsible for hers…it was not a joint effort, despite your twisted thinking. I pray no victims see how you’re shaming them. Humble yourself and see that you’re just as bad as abusers, minimizing your behavior. I’m very glad you don’t know what it’s like to be a victim, but your lack of compassion shows you don’t really understand the Bible you say you read.

@pedinurse1

2 ай бұрын

Always thought IHOP was weird. Never even knew who Bicke is. Meeting with The Archangel Micheal, what bullcrap

Thank you all for telling the truth. It is so vital for the BoC. The statement about this being Mike Bickle's "Nathan comes to David to confront his sin moment", is exactly right on and powerful. I pray the whole truth is brought to light.

I’m so thankful for strong and courageous men who will speak up for the victims and the weaker vessels . Praise God ! It is a very hard thing to do but SO necessary! Thank you so much . ❤

Thank you for speaking the truth. Praise the Lord the truth is finally getting out. Blessings from Canada.❤🇨🇦

@couragedearheart2951

6 ай бұрын

Hey, Brother John! Appreciate you too!

Wow, this is completely different than what we are getting on other social media platforms. Thank you for this and God bless you for your raw honesty.

Thanks so much to all of you, for your love, humility, and candid sobriety in response to this crisis. Much love and prayer support to you.

Thank you for sharing all of this.

So thankful this is all being brought to the light. I was apart of IHOP back in 2009 and had some really weird and unexplainable experiences. I’m really thankful the Lord freed me.

I have experienced the look on Allen's face at 17:54. I was a minister serving under another minister in an American Baptist (ABCUSA church), and I trusted, even idolized, the senior minister. And then I started getting the sense that he was overly controlling, had too much power. When I tried to address this with him, I experienced the "mask off" situation - it was like he became a fundamentally different person, someone different than who our congregations knew, and certainly than who I thought I worked for. In that moment, I felt so confused and baffled: how couldn't I have seen this? why didn't I see the earlier signs? but I was so deceived by his charisma (and this wasn't even in a "prophetic" context, just a more normie evangelical one!) that the signs only made sense once I saw the man behind the mask. It was so deeply unsettling and it did a great deal of damage to my heart and my soul. I know that feeling - and seeing Allen experience it earnestly regarding Bickle breaks my heart.

@patriciacaceres5676

5 ай бұрын

Agree with you 100% just look at his face

@silviahan

4 ай бұрын

Yes.. so sad

Allen Hood has so much wisdom. Hearing him correct this nonsense about "Matthew 18" is so good.

@cooperkurdziolek5737

6 ай бұрын

Then why post online.... That's a complete manipulation of bringing it to the church.....

@clairstberry

6 ай бұрын

@clairstberry 0 seconds ago He’s helping Jesus Christ by exposing the works of evil. You clearly want to hide them - shame on you. He has an obligation to bring forth the truth. That obligation is clearly spoken about in Proverbs. Please read them. Stop shooting. Instead pray.

@couragedearheart2951

6 ай бұрын

@@cooperkurdziolek5737 Mike had a public ministry. He was confronted and refused correction. This is not about Matt. 18 anyway.

@martinhaas8182

6 ай бұрын

Paul did not apply Matthew 18 when he confronted and corrected Peter in front of the whole church. Nor did he advise Timothy to do so. Those in leadership who are sinning are to be rebuked in the presence of all. Had Paul merely taken Peter aside and corrected him, all those who had been influenced to follow Peter's bad example would not have learned the lesson. It's appropriate to confront Bickle privately first and give him the chance to repent and to then confess publicly. But when Bickle refused to allow a second person in the room, he was demonstrating his unwillingness to repent and to care more about the things of God than about his own reputation. Game over. He should never be allowed behind a microphone again except to confess without reservation, without manipulation, without blame shifting and without attempt to look good in any way, shape or form. After that, he should retreat into obscurity. He can be restored to fellowship, but never to ministry.

@Window4503

5 ай бұрын

@@cooperkurdziolek5737It makes no sense to expose the public to a lie and then only share the corrective truth in private. That’s twisted.

This is so good and so needed. Thank you for taking the time to share with such gut-wrenching honesty and integrity. Allen speaks the word of the Lord for the Church in this hour!

@wordsoflife42

5 ай бұрын

Amen. And you too, thank you 🙏

You can’t disguise genuine, authentic TRUTH. THIS. Is everything. Thank you to you all. Allen…your heart….my goodness. So blessed by you.

Allen Hood’s tears, pleas, and concern for Mike’s soul is beyond words 😭 🔥

This is the church responding and rising up correctly and courageously. This is JOY , to see the church rise and grow in honesty

Thank you guys. I finally have a sense of closure. I have meet most of you and have looked up to you for years. My heart is broken but I do feel a sense of closure. May the Lord use this as a standard of how to deal with exposed sin in senior leadership. It’s hard to believe but shows us all how dependent we must be on the Holy Spirit. Ministry can be robotic and separate from internal evil nature. May God have mercy.

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this. It has been so helpful and encouraging to my heart to see and hear true men of God, true leaders and shepherds talk about and show true humility and the fear of the Lord. You have all been through so much and I appreciate and commend your courage and character throughout this to stand up for what is what and true, to hold accountable and not be manipulated….thank you and may God bless you!

As someone who has had terrible situations not believed, thank you from the bottom of my heart for being willing to look at the truth of what happened. I can't tell you how proud I am that you have stood with the victims in such a brave way.

This was real leadership. I am praying for you, men of God.

I was really struggling to make sense of this whole thing. But things are so much more clear now. Thank you for making these videos.

Pastor Wes! ❤ Thank you all for your STRONG stand for Jesus and your equally STRONG silence and refusal to be baited. May God bless you and continue to shine His face upon you!

Ugh my heart aches. This is so heartbreaking. I’m so thankful that Allen has shared. It makes me feel hopeful that there are actually people who live out what they believe and can be trusted as a leader in the church. I’m so sad and angry for everyone.

@dawnpickard1052

5 ай бұрын

Praying for you all,praying for Mike and his famliy may God open his eyes and bring true repentance, remove the spirit of heaviness ,bring peace,comfort and deep healing to all.

God bless you guys, and continue to give you strength and comfort your hearts. I went through the same situation in my local church a number of years ago and so there was no doubt in my mind when I heard the statement you made, despite having listened to Mike's preach a few days previous. It can be hard for people to see, but your voices are so, so needed in this season. Thank you for your courage and integrity.

Thank you all so so much for so bravely standing for truth and justice in midst of this travesty.

Thank you so much. This is so helpful and necessary. 😭

Thank yall so much for your voices, transparency, and leadership. Thank you for speaking up.

Thank you. Watching this has offered some semblance of clarity, honesty, and truth to a situation that has felt like everything but. My late teens and early to mid twenties were fully invested in the HOP vision. Hearing your contrite hearts and desire for truth and repentance has brought some hope to my soul for the church.

Thank you- we stand as one contending for true godly repentance and restoring through this process - I love y'all and Mike Bickle

I wish everyone on church leadership could watch it with subtitles for those who don't speak the language, cause this was an alert for the whole body of Christ, we must change tue way we deal with stuff like that, thanks alle, dwayne and was for your hearts and for putting in jeopardy your fame and name for this, that God may bring repentance to the church.

Appreciate you guys, so sad we have to even have these conversations but thank you for your courage.

TRUTH KNOWN IN HEAVEN AND HELL WILL RESOUND WITH CLARITY UPON THE EARTH BECAUSE OF YOU SHARING. THANK YOU SO MUCH

I don’t understand why this group of DEFENDERS of the gospel are apologizing in any sense for blowing the whistle on these tragedies. Praise God that you did speak, don’t answer for yourselves, you did the right thing

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your humility and transparency. This brings so much comfort and healing after months of internal dissonance.

For anyone who thinks this is "a desperate ploy to gain control of the narrative," I am just shocked. These men (and the other four members of the AG) are obviously heartbroken over what Mike has done. They are transparent, vulnerable, and sharing from their hearts. On the other hand, we don't even know who the members of the ELT are. Who is really being honest here? (That's a rhetorical question.)

@uniquedove3168

6 ай бұрын

Amen! ❤

@valor101arise

6 ай бұрын

It's not really one vs an evil other....

@krissifaith6709

6 ай бұрын

There are so many hints that they trusted these Jane Doe accusations even before hearing and meeting Mike is what reveals that they are looking for him to be removed. Conspiracy maybe not, but the money... the power, the control.. if you are no longer with IHOP KC then what are you doing? It seems you already believe someone else's "truth" without hearing both sides.

@royallincolnschoolofthepro4776

5 ай бұрын

Judge and jury, trial by social media. Appalling. Talk about taking sides before the evidence is listened to from all parties. So sad.

@benjaminjohnson6118

4 ай бұрын

I want you to understand that this episode, and the repeated failures of christian leaders to act when 'prophets' like bickle are allowed free reign to abuse for decades, are why children refuse christianity. You are all like this. Your tithe money went to support Bickle's abuse of children. Your money. Your faith was used to support this. He still hasn't faced any criminal prosecution for the criminal sexual abuse of two minors. That's your witness. You ignored and enabled this behavior for decades. You are reaping what you have sown.

Thank you so much for this. Your humility, transparency, truthfulness, and holding up honor is apparent throughout this video. And I understand how hard this must have been. To call out a friend, mentor, spiritual father is no small thing. But thank you for your efforts to bring healing to the body of Christ.

Salt and light ❤️...this ⬆️ is the church...so glad you published this video, it brings so much clarity. Thank you for your courage and steadfastness. Praying for you all from WA state ❤❤️ God is doing a new thing ❤❤ and it's bringing us closer to the pure and spotless bride that He's coming back for.

These videos are a turning point for the truth. God bless these men and women!

@servantofmessiah1071

6 ай бұрын

Yes, turning point. Amen.

Thank you Lord for these men of God. Great conversation. Thank you for your vulnerability and bravery.

I am so incredibly thankful for you all!

As one of the many that left wounded thank you for being aware that there are many of us.

Good on you brothers for speaking out. Looks like the guy Mike has got away with murder for long enough. Probably about time all of us Christians stopped calling people spiritual Fathers and looking up to them like they were infallible and could never be questioned. Let's stop putting leaders on pedestals. We have one father in heaven and we have one savior Jesus Christ and that's it.

@mirahjammes9207

5 ай бұрын

Amen! I waa involved with an international prayer ministry in Israel and ignored several red flags of deceptive, cult-like oractices because I put the leadership on a pedestal. Thank God He severely corrected me and I repented and was cleansed from this toxic behavior of blind trust of a leader who is human and fallible. It takes two to be exploited!

@anneboyle2240

10 күн бұрын

I just said that to myself a few minutes ago!!! Yes! The "spiritual fathers and spiritual mothers" dangerous and a cult in operation

Help the people understand how a church can be so prophetic but NOT discern this for YEARS! Was it all for 💰, celebrity status, branding? The church is not a church it's a business corporation with great tax benefits. 😢😡 That in of itself is sick. God's favor is on the people.

@angelirohival6270

3 ай бұрын

Great point! How was it not discerned?

100% real deal and gospel truth being asked and portrayed. Love the true love and truth! This is bravery and action as it should be. Proud that the narrative is changing and we are crying out for transparency.

I'm so grateful for these brothers' willingness to share their hearts, especially Allen. If what they laid out is adopted and followed, then restoration can come; if not, then it's anyone's guess where this will end up. This was also helpful for knowing better how to pray from afar.

Thank you for this most painful but truthful explanation of one of the most trying times in IHOP history. I pray that the healing and accountability continue.

In tears hearing you all talk with such tenderness and humility. I’m in the camp of those who’ve left ihop with pain and hurt. Hearing you all speak to that with such tenderness and compassion was so healing for me. Without Jane Doe’s and her friend’s bravery to call all of this out, I would still be burdened with many things from my time at IHOPKC, but bringing this forward brought the clarity and understanding I needed to heal, just as Dwayne said. Thank you thank you thank you. We are standing with you and you are not alone.

This breaks my heart. Thank you for sharing. It is so helpful

One thing I get out of all this is how quickly and dangerous it is to elevate a leader, pastor, preacher, teacher into an almost “godlike” status. Even to refer to someone as a “spiritual father”, doesn’t Jesus talk to us about calling anyone father? I’m glad these gentlemen tried to follow scripture and confront Mike biblically and with love . We can however, be thankful that our God is the God of restoration. I pray Mike and his son come to a place of genuine repentance and that all the broken lives will be restored.

Thank you for going public, this takes bravery, Im proud of you guys - JOSH LEWIS

Wow thank you guys for modeling what courage looks like in the face of the storm in your own pain & be willing to partner with Jesus…who is TRUTH to flip over the tables of wickedness….I believe mass repentance is on the horizon & boy do we ever need leaders with integrity and a backbone like yourselves in this hour!

THANK YOU these brave men ! Men are supposed to protect women and children ! Thank you for being REAL men

What a comfort to see mature men of God in the midst of this heartbreak being able to speak wisely. Not all hope is lost. God purify your bride, we need it 🙏🏼

Thank you for your courageous stand for the victims in this story and for upholding a biblical standard.

Thank you, each one of you. I so appreciate Allen Hood’s heart.

Thank you for doing this. This is what we need. I know it was probably hard for many different reasons. But I am 37 and want the church to thrive in the days to come, and we need to grow in wisdom and grow as leaders so we can better handle things like this in the future.

Thank you, Jono, Allen, Wes and Dwayne for taking the time to allow us to see your faces and hear your voices. It’s so helpful for someone like who was there at IHOP and then part of a small HOP for a total of a decade’s time. I know this has been a horrendous time and fully believe none of you wanted to have to write letters, make statements or do this video. I appreciate your acknowledgment of your own needs to repent as the light continues to shine and expose. I grateful there is still hope for restoration with your brothers. I needed to hear that too.

You guys are on the right side of things. My friend and I personally saw M stroked different women's hair in the prayer room. We brought the matter to IHOPKC because we have no direct contact with M, but was not taken seriously. Thank you for standing up for what is right. You will be blameless in front of the great judgement seat.

@rlm9093

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. It is helpful. I hope more people share their experiences. ❤️‍🩹

@carynmason3421

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for at least trying to address it with leadership.

@Chloe-pi6gw

5 ай бұрын

Wow. That’s horrible

@DavidPesta

5 ай бұрын

Did you have a cell phone with a camera? (No judgment if you didn't think of that at the time.) I hate to suggest such action, but it's the day and age we're living in and the alternative is for leadership abuse to be gotten away with.

@jameslinmd

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidPesta nobody would expect something like that when it happens. That's why most of allegations are based on testimonies rather than physical evidence.

My daughter's friend left IHOPKC wounded and disillusioned. I didn't know what had happened. She recently spoke about abuse and mistreatment and I was shocked. She is very worldly and liberal now. She's hard to talk to so I don't know for sure where she's at in her faith. I'm going to reach out to her. 😢

Thank you so much for your effort! I'm a German in France, very grateful for parts of Mike Bickle's teaching trying to process that God would talk and teach through this man during all these years of abuse. I decided to stick with what God gave through him and be grateful but to sober up regarding the leaders and standing first of all before Jesus and looking to Him.

Thank you for touching on prophetic manipulation and lack of accountability in the charismatic world.

@earlydawn8183

6 ай бұрын

Amen.

@FreeGirl9608

6 ай бұрын

While there needs to be more accountability in the charismatic world, it is not unique to charismatic people. The Catholic Church comes to mind along with Baptists, Lutherans et al. It’s a problem of the human condition, no human is above our fallen nature except Jesus Christ himself. I think we all need to remember, but for the grace of God that could be any one of us…the heart is deceptively wicked above all else, who can know it.

Wow. The fire in Allen’s belly, righteous indignation, and emotion from him in this. Seems like a great, godly leader.

@mwendwa_m

5 ай бұрын

True. God bless him

@benjaminjohnson6118

4 ай бұрын

Where was all this 'righteous indignation' decades ago when this was first brought to light? Crocodile tears.

I’m glad that somebody has finally come forward with some conversation about this situation. It’s a sad day that there is as much division in this than in the political arena. Very sad

Bless you all. Praying for all 😢🙏❤️

I’m so grateful to hear from this group, so - thank you. I’m simultaneously grieved over what seems to be a systemic issue at IHOPKC of not dealing appropriately with manipulation and abuse (even hinted at here, with the refusal/difficulty at first to believe just one survivor). I’m sure we’ll hear more in the coming months and I pray that true 180-degree change (repentance) takes place in this ministry and its practices.

I watched the interview where Dwayne said he was making enemies. I turned my own father over to authorities upon learning he abused many children, including one of my own children. I had a choice, and I chose to be an enemy of evil men and a friend to God. That man is unrepentant to this very day. I was drug through the mud, thrown under the bus, and the God who speaks picked me up. I pray people make the right choices in this Apostate age of our church.

Jono Hall, I appreciate the work you’re doing in these interviews. I know you’re a key part of the invention of the ihop concept of a “media messenger.” Filmmakers like myself in the community owe much to you!

@redneved93

6 ай бұрын

I second this. I do wish that Jono shared his side of things, too, though.

Y’all are men of integrity. Thank You!

This whole thing hurts. Living Here and being apart of the prayer room and seeing all the division that has happened and that is happening it really sucks, it’s sad. This community is amazing and this is putting a dark cloud over us…. God help us, the ones that are still here trying to live here and thrive…

@toyincrandell

5 ай бұрын

I feel this. I can't imagine how you all are doing and I'm praying for grace for you

@Jillousa

5 ай бұрын

One of the hardest calling God ever gave me was to keep going when I had legitimate reasons to quit. A very hard season but I don't regret obeying with the Lord called me to do.

@MeghanMoman

3 ай бұрын

It isn't putting a dark cloud over you, it's exposing the dark cloud that was in the shadows the whole time.

This is so insanely heartbreaking. My heart just goes out to Mr. Hood and these brothers and sisters in Christ.

Thank you Brothers. Sending Love!

Thank you so much for letting us hear your hearts. 😭

I was apart of IHOP-KC for 3 months in 2008, and though I've since deconstructed and left the faith because I was disillusioned by "men of God" who couldn't take responsibility for their actions. Allen spoke with our internship a number of times, so did Mike but I remember how humble and sincere Allen always was, and I am thankful for men of God that actually seek accountability instead of sweep it under the rug for the investigative reporters to dig up. This is the only way that the church will ever regain our generation's trust. A lot more of this.

Grateful for the video and the courageous men. Interesting to see the Christmas tree in the background... I guess it was filmed weeks ago. Aside from the editing, it probably took some time to know how and when to release it.

@christiansmith982

6 ай бұрын

Yep. You probably already learned this, but it’s now known that it was filmed on Dec 20th. They held off the release in hopes to try to cool things down and make progress with IHOP. Recent discourse has led them to the release.

I BELIEVE YOU! I believe the women who have bravely come forward and are no longer carrying the false guilt of Mike’s actions on their shoulders. May healing and restoration happen.

Thank you gentlemen for being open and honest. Bless you guys.

What’s hard for me to fathom is how intelligent and kind former IHOP KC leaders are…..yet they didn’t have the discernment to recognize Mike Bickle was a false teacher decades ago….so many outside of the movement have called out Mike Bickle for years. 😢 May they get back to scriptures as their true authority.

@angelirohival6270

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Why don’t others see exactly that, what you said?

I had to listen to Allen Hood's heartfelt reflection of the church again to take it all in. Brought me to tears for the church. I have had to ask myself if people of prayer cannot get this right what does that mean... Prayer movements or strong apologetics (Ravi Zacharias) or evangelical impacts (Bill Hybels) without healthy accountability and biblical church and leadership discipline have brought us to this point. We do need revival and if it does not look like one that brings us to knees and faces hitting the floor in confession of sin and true repentance in a fear of the LORD then we must question it. So thankful for these men and women. May they be an example for other churches that will find themselves in this situation. Thank you all for these important conversations!

@benjaminjohnson6118

4 ай бұрын

Crocodile tears. Where was all this 'righteous indignation' decades ago when it first came to light. FAke.

I agree that confession is sadly lacking from the Church. I too want to be clean. Thanks for your courage and for sharing with us. Up until these videos the silence has been deafening.

It’s encouraging to hear some semblance of humility in this video. I pray that those involved will pull back more layers and think long and hard about why this movement was built on a foundation of Bob Jones, Paul Cain, and Mike Bickle. Decades of convoluted, out-of-context teaching and spiritual elitism, thousands upon thousands of false prophecies, hundreds of disaffected interns wasting their 20s in fruitless chasing after experiences and financial ruin, rotten fruit from start to finish. Clouds without water, wandering stars, and chasing after the wind. It’s not too late, however, for repentance for those who truly seek to follow Jesus.

@charliesmith12345

6 ай бұрын

Yes, yes, yes. You nailed it. I see miniscule semblances of humility and brokenness in this video, but true humility will repent from having received these false teachings, a false Jesus, false spirits, and a false gospel.

@couragedearheart2951

6 ай бұрын

Yes!!! The foundation is rotten! Sadly, upright people, like these men were drawn in as well. That is something that needs to be seen and acknowledged. How can Mike truly be a spiritual father when he faked it???

This is so heartbreaking that in a ministry there are so many prophetic people who didn't see this. . . I pray for all involved. God have mercy on us all.

@fjd6423

5 ай бұрын

Prophetic people did see it and were ostracized and terribly wounded...😢 Even as recent as 2019 by those same leaders from 25 years ago.

@markb8944

5 ай бұрын

@@fjd6423 Thank you. The third video in this series with the ladies gave great clarification on this point.

@angelirohival6270

3 ай бұрын

I ask the same thing. If they are really connected to Holy Spirit, where was the discernment? Or did people turn the other way?

@fjd6423

2 ай бұрын

@@angelirohival6270 what happened was when someone received the Word of Knowledge about the affair, that person was ostracized and terribly wounded. The confirmation came out this past Oct. Now that person that the rest of the prophets and pastors so badly treated is now validated/vindicated ... something Mike always preached.

I'm sat here just bawling my eyes out as I listen. Oh men of God...our fair child "prophetic" has been kidnapped, taken away and groomed until it could be pimped out for money in service of evil. Our child needs set free, and as you are speaking, those bonds are being struck off. The next step is to return that child to Father's House where healing and restoration to the *real NT intention* of prophetic ministry can be restored...wholesome, hale, and effective for the edification, encouragement, and exhortation of the Saints of God in Jesus' church. Thank you, men.

@jennymcfarlin6833

6 ай бұрын

Sorry, this sounds sweet but it also sounds like you are referring to Mike Bickel who pimped out the prophetic? If so, the rest of your comment is absolutely unbiblical! If you don’t mean this then disregard. Nowhere in the New Testament are disgraced adulterous “Leaders” to be reinstated to Leadership!! If there is true repentance they can be restored as a Christian with the Lord but never back in Leadership! 1Tim 6 and Titus state there are STRICT QUALIFICATIONS to be a Leader! Qualifications has nothing to do with repentance otherwise qualifications wouldn’t be necessary as all they would need is to repent as any Christian does. But that’s not what it says. The Apostle Paul speaking from his Apostolic Leadership even warned he could be Disqualified!! Paul didn’t say all he needed to do was repent and then he’s an Apostle again!! No! Once disqualified for Leadership it’s permanent!

@wordsoflife42

5 ай бұрын

Me too 😭 ...and your word ministered to me also. Thank you 🙏

I so appreciate your candid conversation to help bring clarity. It helps to see your hearts. Thank you for owning your mistakes and apologizing appropriately. If only the current IHOPKC leadership could demonstrate this kind of humility and transparency!

It's more than just one man's moral failure, it's revealing the flawed ecclesiastical power structures of the New Apostolic Reformation.

@Whatever45302

6 ай бұрын

This!

@earlydawn8183

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, YES!

@DeborahSpeaksTruth

3 ай бұрын

C Peter Wagner was false.

@angelirohival6270

3 ай бұрын

Why is it obvious to so many, but not them. That movement has had bad fruit for a looong time.

Thank you for this. Appreciate almost every word here very much. May it be said however that women and men coming forward should be heard and believed even if men in power see only “one” or don’t believe the survivor has “perfect” or “impeccable” character. Many times abusers smear the character of those they victimize.

In hindsight, I can now see why I felt so uneasy at IHOPKC. With these behind the scene stories that I couldn't have known during the time, I now know the Lord lead me out of there for a reason.

Thank you for this video. Regards from Brazil I hope this all ends well and that the victim is helped and safety measures are taken. All of this saddens people who have had contact with the prayer movement in some way. May God's justice be done.

You can see the utter grief on their faces. Mike has made it worse for everyone and continues to add pain to the church: world wide. I can't imagine knowing what they knew then watching him preach on October 20th manipulating his future attack with a gaslighting sermon. I can't imagine how they feel.

@charliesmith12345

6 ай бұрын

Imagine the grief when they realize that they helped propogate false teachings for decades!!!

IHOPKC buried themselves - not the Jane Does, not these precious brothers - IHOP is doing this to themselves. Mike Bickle did it to himself.

@aborowka

5 ай бұрын

I am a prophet. IHOP will join PTL, Todd Bentley and Robert Tillton 'ministries'.

@wordsoflife42

5 ай бұрын

Amen Kristi. I found this line to ring true: Comme on fait son lit, on se couche. (French for "you’ve made your bed, now lie on it")

@KristiLEvans1

5 ай бұрын

@@wordsoflife42 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

@KristiLEvans1

5 ай бұрын

@@wordsoflife42 I enjoy your channel, by the way. Thank you for adding your voice to this heartbreaking situation. God continue to bless you and your family. 👊🏼

I have a pastor friend in St. Louis who knew Mike Bickle when he first appeared on the scene in St Louis before he became the big thing he has been to so many people since the KCF days of the prophetic boom of the 80s. He saw through him then when everyone was bowing the knee to Baal so to speak. Here’s what I’ve seen in every interview with people in the Advocate Group. The common thread is everyone says they just never believed Bickle would do this. I applaud everyone for coming forward. My deep concern for these Christians and so many more of sound mind is the lack of discernment that Bickle operates under. It is a spirit of witchcraft/divination (1 Samuel 15:23). This is what Christian celebrity is all about. While we must respect those God has placed in authority, we must keep both eyes wide open. This requires a deeper acquaintance and understanding of Scripture. If we see behavior and teaching from leaders that contradicts the plain reading of the Bible we need to confront this and if we can’t get through to that person we need to warn others and get away from this leader. Bickle and others like him are false prophets and teachers. And guess what, he was from the beginning. Most deception contains elements of biblical truth. But if we look closely it’s riddled with falsehood. I hope the exposure of Bickle will wake people up from following deception and the people that peddle it. God help us!

@angelirohival6270

3 ай бұрын

What you stated, THAT is true Holy Spirit discernment!

Thank you for bringing clarity!

I'm having trouble understanding how so many men of God missed this for SO many years. How do I know my "spiritual father" is not easily deceived? It's almost as if he worshipped Bickle and blinded him to see or have discernment about this man. When he visited our church many times I was never comfortable with his teaching or in his presence. I won't leave my savior over the failure of men but we want to trust our shepherd's leadership and ability to discern. This is how cults operate; following the leader blindly. I am careful not to put my pastors on any pedestal but I do respect them. This sounds familiar to Ravi Zacharias story whose teaching I did value... That shocked me Praying for all concerned