All versions of... - USS Enterprise NCC-1701

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This slightly experimental video compares all 3 versions of the model of the USS Enterprise. I am NOT covering the versions of the Enterprise appearing in the Kelvin timeline movies or Star Trek: Discovery, they will be covered sometimes in the future.

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  • @michaelbruno1666
    @michaelbruno16663 жыл бұрын

    That stretch of video showing the front to back rotation in the effects studio is awesome, never seen it before. Thanks.

  • @christalbot210
    @christalbot2104 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the lights in the bussard collectors for the full series model. It was a nice change from the boring single color front caps. Had to have been a pain to add since they had to thread the wiring through the nacelle struts. Worth it.

  • @gregsmall5939

    @gregsmall5939

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention the original caps were machined out of solid wood. That's why you never saw the left (port) side after that. that's where all the wiring was trunked out of.

  • @shotojukukai
    @shotojukukai4 жыл бұрын

    Version 3 had lower profile bridge and window removed. The main dish was also made a bit smaller.

  • @BjoernarEricSven
    @BjoernarEricSven4 жыл бұрын

    There's one detail you seem to have missed: after the second pilot the deflector dish was downsized considerably.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, thank you, I missed that, sorry.

  • @nicholasdickens2801

    @nicholasdickens2801

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was going to say that. I believe they altered the connection rod that fitted into the body too.

  • @nicholasdickens2801

    @nicholasdickens2801

    4 жыл бұрын

    TrekkieChannel Don’t worry. It’s a lovely video, worthy of the name Enterprise.

  • @Herandro_just_Herandro

    @Herandro_just_Herandro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Björnar Dohm that's a very good obervation. Anything that adds to the History of Classic Star Trek is always welcome. For myself I can tell if I had 3 equally detailed kits of each of the 3 ships, I would still pick up different sections of each one and put up another different classic NCC-1701, but still with "no bloody A, B, C or D" on it. But then, of course, I could (almost) hear Captain Jean-Luc Picard saying "this is YOUR Enterprise". Live long and Prosper.

  • @charliemaguire2210

    @charliemaguire2210

    Жыл бұрын

    AND of course after the Cage they added the internal model lighting, however unless i am mistaken in vers 2 is not the larger bridge dome still in evidence ?

  • @richardjohnson9543
    @richardjohnson95433 жыл бұрын

    The behind the scenes raw footage of the Enterprise being filmed is really fascinating since it seems there were a lot of shots that never made it into any episodes. From the look of one shot they probably got a little too ambitious with the camera moves and couldn't properly sync and match the movement of the ship with stars and planets given the existing technology and no true motion control for about another decade. It's actually funny watching those guys hiding under the Enterprise and turning cranks to rotate it. I'm surprised some KZreadr hasn't taken this footage and completed it yet.

  • @The_Blue_Otaku

    @The_Blue_Otaku

    Жыл бұрын

    I can picture some fans taking that blue sceen test footage and enhancing it in 4k croping the people out keying out the blue bit and useing the footage for fan films

  • @darthkurland

    @darthkurland

    Жыл бұрын

    @@The_Blue_Otakunot unless they want to get sued.

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott4 жыл бұрын

    I always liked the third ship better, never did like those antenna on the front of the engines.

  • @darthkurland

    @darthkurland

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here. Good thing they’re gone from the original filming model at the Smithsonian.

  • @trekkiejunk

    @trekkiejunk

    Жыл бұрын

    The only thing i don't prefer in the final version of the model is the back of the nacelles. Thoe big balls that stick out always looked weird to me. I think the vents from WNMHGB looked better.

  • @jaminova_1969
    @jaminova_19693 жыл бұрын

    Thank You so much for posting this. I find it fascinating to see the USS Enterprise Model on a gimble in front of a blue screen! Once on a trip to DC with my Uncle, we spied one of the original models (probably#3) in a storage room at the Smithsonian and it was badly in need of restoration.

  • @holton345
    @holton3454 жыл бұрын

    Bussard Collectors became illuminated and had a rig inside to rotate the lights. The Bridge changed again, becoming the least tall version, better matching the lower profile of the larger section above the main saucer top (containing Sick Bay and all that). The main sensor dish in the 3rd version was also MUCH smaller, making the first two look sort of silly or awkward. There were also some details on the warp units that are minor but still visible. However, the ends of the "caps" on the nacelles behind the Bussard Collectors were *very* different between 1 and 2 versus the 3rd iteration. Much more detail was added. Good video. Thanks for doing this comparison.

  • @leerilea1709
    @leerilea17094 жыл бұрын

    22 seconds in, three footer model with modifications to mimic production version. 4:17, three footer with 2nd pilot details, 4:37 three footer with production version details, 4:47 three footer with production details, shot used in View Master "Omega Glory". Three footer with production details was also used in "Requiem For Methuselah".

  • @mlgbrony5934
    @mlgbrony59344 жыл бұрын

    NCC-1701 enterprise so beautiful 😍💕

  • @giadaverde3625

    @giadaverde3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree...The One and only Lady of the Galaxy!💞😊

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    My favorite 3 ships of Trek - 1. NCC-1701 series version, 2. NCC-1701 refit and 3. NCC-1701-D the original ILM model (NOT the smaller model with that garbage on the surface)

  • @mlgbrony5934

    @mlgbrony5934

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@giadaverde3625 yes even Scotty would agree

  • @angelobrattoli4663
    @angelobrattoli46634 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if anyone else mentioned, that the spinning light effects were added to the Bussard collectors after "Where No Man Has Gone Before".

  • @doteman92
    @doteman924 жыл бұрын

    I totally forgot that the Enterprise had a large window as the main screen in "Where No Man Has Gone Before". That makes it justified that it will be on Discovery and Kelvin timeline.

  • @definitely_notme4112

    @definitely_notme4112

    2 жыл бұрын

    But what’s odd is inside it’s still very much a screen in those two pilots. in The Cage spock even says “check the circuit” and “can’t be the screen then.”

  • @ArkansasPilgrim
    @ArkansasPilgrim2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. There are a couple more things, though. 1. The bottom of the primary hull directly below the bridge was changed after The Cage. It is more pronounced. 2. The deflector dish changed after WNMHGB. 3. During the series, the lights in the Bussard collectors changed at least twice. One version just had lights that blinked. And if I'm not mistaken, they had 2 versions of the spinners. BTW, good model work.

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    1. No, the 33.75" model had the flatter saucer underside; the 134" model doesn't.

  • @tonytafoya6217
    @tonytafoya62174 жыл бұрын

    Damn it Jim, I'm a model builder, Not a doctor!

  • @rudolphguarnacci197

    @rudolphguarnacci197

    20 күн бұрын

    I assume you are aware of the reverse.

  • @stevewaldock4379
    @stevewaldock43794 жыл бұрын

    As Spock would say.... Fascinating ! - always wondered why the enterprise sometimes looked slightly different even in the same episode. This explains exactly the reasons why, at last.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped a bit!

  • @AndrewChapman

    @AndrewChapman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, even though the Enterprise had the regular look after the two pilots, they still reused footage from the pilots now and again throughout the series. In the remastered versions, they of course corrected these continuity errors.

  • @mm-gl7sz

    @mm-gl7sz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AndrewChapman except in Mirror Mirror where the mirror universe Enterprise was the Where No Man Has Gone Enterprise

  • @sjTHEfirst
    @sjTHEfirst4 жыл бұрын

    Also the bowling alley under the shuttle deck was enlarged.

  • @TrekkieChannel
    @TrekkieChannel4 жыл бұрын

    OK, this is a slightly "chaotic" video, sorry for that, but hopefully some of the people will like it.

  • @michaelsmith-zz5mb

    @michaelsmith-zz5mb

    4 жыл бұрын

    I liked it! Never noticed the antena before. Thanks.

  • @Ljordan093

    @Ljordan093

    4 жыл бұрын

    TrekkieChannel Where did you get those SFX shots from?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ljordan093 Roddenberry's Vault - memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_-_The_Roddenberry_Vault

  • @ezridax5809

    @ezridax5809

    4 жыл бұрын

    As a model builder myself I really like this and the effort you spent on it. I personally already know this but I am sure it will help people in the model community

  • @kostascholas8751
    @kostascholas87519 ай бұрын

    The music, so awesome and very catchy!😂❤

  • @DennisKovacich
    @DennisKovacich4 жыл бұрын

    With “All versions” in the title, I was expecting a lot more than just TOS. A better title might have been “All versions of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701, no bloody A, B, C, or D.” 😉

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, if that's the only or first video you watch on this channel I guess the title is a bit confusing - the "All versions of" part is actually the title of the "series" I do here, I compare all of the versions of episodes (right now season 1 TOS), plus I plan to do special videos on ship models, sets, locations etc.

  • @bobbova8708

    @bobbova8708

    2 жыл бұрын

    No a,b,c or d but the motion picture refit had no a,b,c or d either

  • @rudolphguarnacci197

    @rudolphguarnacci197

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@bobbova8708 Just garbage looking engines.

  • @StarWarriorCentral
    @StarWarriorCentral3 жыл бұрын

    Another change they made between The Cage and WNMHGB was the white dome on the bottom of the saucer. It was absent from the Cage version. Also, the bridge dome wasn't smaller until the Corbomite Maneuver model.

  • @johnritcher5751
    @johnritcher57514 жыл бұрын

    Smaller deflector dish and window deleted on the third version.

  • @Fooblestheclown1
    @Fooblestheclown12 жыл бұрын

    You know what? I have made so many AMT models of this ship over the years, and because the model makers back in the day constantly chamge details, I just paint and decal the model my way and give the Starship a different name and say to myself, this is how this particular ship was built. Then I get all the chicks!

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    LLOL at the "all the chicks part"! Nice!

  • @davidedens6353
    @davidedens63534 жыл бұрын

    Before shooting season 3 Gene had Matt Jefferies draw in pencil the shield grid on the top of the saucer section

  • @gregsmall5939

    @gregsmall5939

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Smithsonian researchers!

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    Id it documented/confirmed that the pencil lines were by Jefferies? And "ordered" by Roddenberry? (It's undisputed that the pencil lines exist.)

  • @stevenewman1393
    @stevenewman13935 ай бұрын

    🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed in every detail way shape and form provided indeed Sir!.

  • @RobMacKendrick
    @RobMacKendrick3 жыл бұрын

    Also, the first Enterprise had a large and heavy wooden keel, apparently. Can't say I remember that - and I did watch the whole series first-run on my family's black and white TV - but you have to appreciate the nod to history.

  • @JarOfRats
    @JarOfRats4 жыл бұрын

    As a Star Trek geek that grew up in the 1970s building the wildly inaccurate AMT models, the saucer section MUST have a green translucent bridge dome and lower saucer sensor array. Sorry. 10 year old me has decided.

  • @nicholasdickens2801

    @nicholasdickens2801

    4 жыл бұрын

    JarOfRats I love your reasoning. Entirely human… yet, most logical.

  • @JarOfRats

    @JarOfRats

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasdickens2801 Indeed.... [raises eyebrow]

  • @RobMacKendrick

    @RobMacKendrick

    3 жыл бұрын

    #the70scalled

  • @AndrewWav

    @AndrewWav

    3 жыл бұрын

    100% agree

  • @chrismayer3919
    @chrismayer39194 жыл бұрын

    EVERYTHING undergoes some type of evolution... even starship designs!

  • @AndrewChapman
    @AndrewChapman4 жыл бұрын

    Always found it weird how the impulse engines were tweaked slightly in the 2nd pilot. And then for the regular version, they were more or less changed back to how they looked in the 1st pilot.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Welcome back, Andy

  • @AndrewChapman

    @AndrewChapman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel Thanks, I know I don't comment here much these days.

  • @marcosbee
    @marcosbee15 сағат бұрын

    The shuttle bay doors were smooth the 1st 2 pilots.

  • @lynnjeavons44
    @lynnjeavons444 жыл бұрын

    so cool to learn my model is type 3

  • @mikevonkleist6767
    @mikevonkleist67674 жыл бұрын

    Regardless of dimension or proportion. She's pretty. I don't know much about practical interstellar travel but this ships design seems to make sense. Can we break the light barrier? I hope so.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh she's a beauty. That's why I was angry when I've seen what they've done to her in Discovery

  • @giadaverde3625

    @giadaverde3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel Really...when I've seen the Lady of the Galaxy in Discovery I cry like Niagara falls... 😢😭😭😭 I want back the classic version!

  • @whatizreality0124

    @whatizreality0124

    3 жыл бұрын

    The " balls " on the 3rd version warp nacelle are REAL TECHNOLOGY . " Someone" must have " suggested " it as most ppl THINK life imitates art nowadays . NOPE . Those balls are actually ANTI GRAVITY TECH and been in use since the 1950s ....YES 50s .

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannelThe discovery version is better than the JJ version at least. (It actually doesn't bother me that they "recast" the E; nor the recasts of Pike, Number One, Spock, Uhura, Chapel, M'Benga, ...)

  • @willmfrank
    @willmfrank4 ай бұрын

    Also featured in this video is a fourth version, not mentioned along with the other three; it's the 33" miniature, which differs from the eleven-foot model in several features. The photo of Leonard Nimoy holding the model shows, for example, that its primary hull's lower bulge is a flattened dome; the eleven-foot model's is a cone.

  • @bruce_adams
    @bruce_adams4 жыл бұрын

    Very informative! And classic footage that was new to me. Thanks!

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome

  • @watchcub
    @watchcub2 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous, thank you so much. I've been hunting for a really good image to use for making paintings of the 1701-A for Christmas gifts. My nerdy cousins will spot an error a mile off so need to get it right. xxx

  • @thomasbarrasso6099
    @thomasbarrasso60993 жыл бұрын

    Great compilation. Nicely done.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @jackofalltrades9311
    @jackofalltrades93114 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful. Love That Ship

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too.

  • @miker00I
    @miker00I3 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful thank you.

  • @Herandro_just_Herandro
    @Herandro_just_Herandro3 жыл бұрын

    That's a very good job, sir. I never knew there were three of them. I've only noticed the missing antennae in front on the warp nacelles, the change from "grid" to ball in the back of the warp nacelles and the window in front of the command bridge. I can't get enough of this ship. Thanks.

  • @Murphman53
    @Murphman534 жыл бұрын

    So beautiful and graceful so fragile looking but soo tough

  • @ncc1701chris
    @ncc1701chris4 жыл бұрын

    I love this channel even though there were three different versions of the Enterprise with slight differences to me all that matters in the end was it's the Enterprise especially when that's all that matters

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you liked it

  • @joec1576
    @joec1576 Жыл бұрын

    Good montage of the Enterprise model. The Air & Space Museum which now has the model and restored it, also has one of the old red nacelle domes in the case along with the original filming stand. It and the antenna was made of wood. They did a great job on the restoration.

  • @BAK-zl5yn
    @BAK-zl5yn4 жыл бұрын

    All Three are beautiful,awesome

  • @ericmadsen9655
    @ericmadsen96554 жыл бұрын

    My favorite is and will always be the TOS Connie. Coming in 2nd in the Connie refit and the 1701-A. Every other class of ship named Enterprise comes in 3rd and 4th.

  • @STho205

    @STho205

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you want to win a SF Convention bar bet, a "Connie" in real naval jargon is the USS Constellation, as the still commissioned frigate USS Constitution is "Old Ironsides". Here's another. In TOS on broadcast film 1966-69 The USS Enterprise is a "Starship Class" ship built in San Francisco Yards. It says so on the bridge builders plaque seen near the bridge turbolift in almost every episode. Constitution Class was a creation of the AMT model instructions and later included in the Starfleet Technical Manual after the series ended. It helped push merchandise and multiple model sales to collectors which profited Norway Corp owned by "Mr No Money in the future", cocktail communist Gene Roddenberry.

  • @mm-gl7sz

    @mm-gl7sz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like the E

  • @deanhirasawa1414
    @deanhirasawa1414 Жыл бұрын

    Those first episodes of Discovery were horribly written and conceived but I laughed at the naysayers who claimed there was no bridge window ever on the early versions of the Enterprise. I clearly remembered the non-remastered TOS episodes like WNMHGB and a couple of others (where they must have used stock footage from the 2nd pilot), there was a bridge window. Of course, that may not have made sense considering the offset layout of the bridge, but clearly it did exist and thanks for proving it!

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    Not a window. (Obviously not a window on the set. Could be a window on the model, except for it not being one on the set, the offset, etc.)

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts Жыл бұрын

    Great choice of music!

  • @mm-gl7sz
    @mm-gl7sz4 жыл бұрын

    The "Where No Man Has Gone Before" Enterprise was also the mirror universe ISS Enterprise in the episode "Mirror, Mirror"

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Correct

  • @mm-gl7sz

    @mm-gl7sz

    4 жыл бұрын

    And that's even in the readers CFO editions. It's the CGI version of the Where No Man Enterprise

  • @mm-gl7sz

    @mm-gl7sz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Remastered CGI versions

  • @williamcurry4868
    @williamcurry48682 жыл бұрын

    Got a question for anyone reading this. At 3:40, that is the model doing the fly away to the next episode shot, but what did they use to make it shrink to a spot in the stars? Was it a fish eye lens, or something else? I always wondered the same thing when it approached the screen, as it goes from a dot to a great close up, or is there a web site with that information you could recommend? Thank you.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I don't know. But it's good to know that I'm not the only person interested in these technical things

  • @marklafrance8141
    @marklafrance81414 жыл бұрын

    Very cool !!!

  • @thomashill6347
    @thomashill63474 жыл бұрын

    Well Done Informative Thanks

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you liked it.

  • @superhayes256
    @superhayes2564 жыл бұрын

    Where did the blue screen footage come from? Is that actual footage from the 60’s without fx?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Correct. The source is the 2016 Blu-ray "Roddenberry Vault"

  • @RocketJockey1300

    @RocketJockey1300

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I was wondering if that footage was legit. And the blue ray enhancement made that blue screen footage look like it was staged yesterday. Cool!

  • @Booyaka9000
    @Booyaka90004 жыл бұрын

    SO glad you didn't include Kurtzman's multiple reimaginings of the original Enterprise!

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    That will be a separate video. One day. In the future/

  • @angeluslupus
    @angeluslupus Жыл бұрын

    Unless I'm mistaken, this doesn't mention the neck originally being a metallic (duck-egg)blue/teal, changing to a matte pale-blue on just the front 1/4 or so. I remember being surprised when I first learned this, now I can't unsee it.

  • @MrMichelPM
    @MrMichelPM4 жыл бұрын

    You missed quite a lot! The look of the nacelle intercooler pairs on top ends of the nacelles. On the Cage and Where No Man versions, they were just tubes with no inside panel structure. Same goes for the internal details and panels on the inboard sides of the nacelles. On thr Cage and Where No Man versions, there is a severe lack of detail and no vent details on the inside of the nacelle pylons. The deflector dish was shrunk in the regular series versions and extra detail was added to low front middle of the lower hull. What about all of the extra adddd details for the fantail/hanger deck/doors area for the regular series version, as well! That bridge window was removed in the regular series version, as well.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, are the changes somewhere "properly documented"? I have mentioned the changes I noticed during the years and which I could show somewhere, either on real footage from the show or on the display models, but if I missed more things than the bigger dish I might actually want to re-work the video and include all of the changes

  • @Rhamsody
    @Rhamsody4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. The last one is my favorite! Thanks for posting!

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora14 жыл бұрын

    Like the 1976 Love Song by Norman Conners & Michael Henderson "you are my starship" (5'8"" 38*28*38 100% Woman ) Come Beam Me Up Tonight, and Don't You Come too Soon.

  • @scifiguy26
    @scifiguy264 жыл бұрын

    The bridge on the cage version and where no man has gone before version are the same size they made the bridge smaller for the production version & no mention that they added lights for the where no man has gone before version?🖖

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, I don't really have any footage for the lights, that's the main problem

  • @photonicus
    @photonicus2 жыл бұрын

    You see a window on the second one, but on the episode it's still a viewscreen inside lol. That window would be enormous compared to the viewscreen.

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    Who says it's a window? It's a lighted panel of some sort. Maybe to light the ship markings like on the motion picture :).

  • @nmatos2005
    @nmatos20053 жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @onlashukshugaharra6779
    @onlashukshugaharra67793 жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness for the mute button. You know, you might have considered changing the background music with each version of the Enterprise. It's not quite the kind of music that one would use for a presentation of this type. There are lots of options in TOS.

  • @ichmagkekse1462
    @ichmagkekse14624 жыл бұрын

    Where can you buy the last model shown (which can also shine) ???

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Unfortunately I don't know, I bought all 4 of them on eBay, they pop up both on eBay and on amazon from time to time. I'm not sure if you can find them in "normal" shops 14 years after they were made.

  • @corneliuscrewe677
    @corneliuscrewe6772 жыл бұрын

    Interesting how shadows of the original dual square ports are still visible on the second version of the impulse engines.

  • @ecclestonsangel
    @ecclestonsangel4 жыл бұрын

    That is seriously amazing! And like a dork, I was always so entranced with the series, that stuff went right over my head, lol! I'm glad they got rid of those antenna thingies, though. They look pretty pointless. And stupid. Except maybe as galactic nose pickers.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'm glad they got rid of them, they look weird.

  • @jgo1961

    @jgo1961

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel They were still working with the 50's rocket ship/flying saucer aesthetic. that's where those elements came from. The overall design of the enterprise was revolutionary and changed the conceptual design of all sci fi ships going forward.

  • @okiebuzzj

    @okiebuzzj

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe they thought the further from Earth the more antennas they would need?

  • @leerilea1709
    @leerilea17094 жыл бұрын

    Very cool. Where did you get the blue screen footage? I have never seen any of it before. Very cool. I do wish tho you had spent time on your models to fill and sand the seams.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, glad you enjoyed it, the bluescreen footage was released in a 6 part documentary which was released in 2016 on the Blu-ray box set called "Roddenberry's vault". The models are actually not created by me, they were officially licensed models for the 40th anniversary. The seam lines on them look pretty annoying, don't they?

  • @leerilea1709

    @leerilea1709

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel yeah lol. I would love to see more footage

  • @leerilea1709

    @leerilea1709

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought at first those were the Polar Lights 1/1000 scale kit but there not.

  • @ericmadsen7470
    @ericmadsen74703 жыл бұрын

    3 different Enterprises for 3 different Captains. April's Enterprise, Pike's Enterprise and finally Kirk's Enterprise. Each model had a few small changes. Either added or subtracted.

  • @lukasbaca1529

    @lukasbaca1529

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually, that was Pike's Enterprise (from The Cage), Kirk's Enterprise (from Where No Man Has Gone Before) and Kirk's Enterprise (from The Original Series).

  • @JEDAI501ST
    @JEDAI501ST4 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention that the 3rd version has a much smaller bridge dome without a window, compared to the other two.

  • @starsiegeplayer
    @starsiegeplayer4 жыл бұрын

    You got some great footage here.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, glad you like it.

  • @dashrendar655
    @dashrendar6554 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @capsizebrian
    @capsizebrian3 жыл бұрын

    Where is the raw no composite blue screen effects shots from. Is it an extra on the blu rays? It's so nice to see the 11 foot model clean with none of the bad compositing eating through. I wish they would do a remastered episode using this original footage and a cleaner composite.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's on the 2016 "Roddenberry's Vault" Blu-ray box set

  • @gmmeier321
    @gmmeier3214 жыл бұрын

    Also, didn’t the Terran Empire version in Mirror, Mirror have the nacelle spikes? Was that a reuse of the second pilot model footage with cgi?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly the episode used the clip which you can find here at 4:22, just flipped.

  • @Dimitri1701

    @Dimitri1701

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wolfman, in Mirror, Mirror, they were using a standard flyby of the 2nd pilot ship which transitioned to an unused angle of that same ship design, both had spikes. Interestingly the Empire ship footage was of the same side of the ship just optically flipped and using mirror decals. This was done because the 11' model only had minor details on its left (port) side since it was constructed to be only filmed from its right (starboard) side.

  • @Dimitri1701

    @Dimitri1701

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel Thats correct, they used the standard left to right flyby you mention which transitions to a right to left flyby to portray the Empire ship. That unused flyby shows us an upper angle which was clearly incompatable with serres design footage. Details of the 2nd pilot ship design like: Larger bridge dome with lighted panels, and the sensor spikes on the nacelle domes...so distictly different from series design, but perfect to represent the Empire ship. Amazingly, budgetary concerns caused them to use 2nd pilot footage thruout the series to represent the series design. Look for that 2nd pilot footage during Kirk's opening in many of the episodes!

  • @JP1701D

    @JP1701D

    4 жыл бұрын

    When it was remastered, I read that they intentionally used the second version to represent the I.S.S. Enterprise and the third version for U.S.S. Enterprise. I'd don't recall if they used different versions in the original footage

  • @DSGNflorian
    @DSGNflorian Жыл бұрын

    At 4:52 we see the raw blue screen footage shot for the "unused flyby" you can see here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4OIuZacqpC-dLA.html One commentator named "Layton" claimed that was a fake and shot using a 1:350 scale model. Obviously not. This is the exact film sequence of the 11' model in the FX studio in front of the blue screen, later used to be inserted into the animated moving star field. Too bad they never used it.

  • @haines96
    @haines964 жыл бұрын

    What about the emitter at the bottom of the saucer, centre. It is on the Smithsonian but I do not recall seeing it on TV. Maybe it was too fine a detail and lost? I think it looks funny but must have been there by the end of the show or it would not appear on the Smithsonian restoration.

  • @ericgray4325
    @ericgray4325 Жыл бұрын

    i didnt notice all the impulse detail before. in the early versions, the ship was smaller, i deck in saucer rim, later 2 which upscale whole ship

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    Upscale occurred before the model was finished or filmed. (Notice the windows on the big model on the street before delivery: the windows on the secondary hull are too close together (deck height) on the 540' scale, fine for the 947' rescale. (Credit to MGagen)

  • @blackbaron0
    @blackbaron04 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 4 that TC. I thought the deflector dish was bigger on the WNMHGB version of NCC1701. Or was that an illusion placed in my mind by the Talosians?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was, I KNEW I missed something. Thank you for pointing that out, I have to check the youtube editor if it allows me to add the info somehow

  • @Dimitri1701

    @Dimitri1701

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel For both of the pilots, the deflector dish was the large one, , but made smaller for the series design. MANY new details were added to the models (both the 3' and 11') when the series was greenlit

  • @blackbaron0

    @blackbaron0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well done 4 spotting the impulse engines change. I never noticed that one before.

  • @giadaverde3625

    @giadaverde3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Talosian manipulate brains so easily...you are right, we must control everything and trust no one!😊👍

  • @injuredtabletennisplayer1474
    @injuredtabletennisplayer14744 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Where did you get access to these modelers

  • @johntabler349
    @johntabler3494 жыл бұрын

    Now the Enterprise and the Enterprise A from the TOS films is my suggestion

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, will come as soon as I finish doing episodes on season 1 of TOS

  • @johntabler349

    @johntabler349

    4 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to it thanks

  • @gmmeier321
    @gmmeier3214 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Are the different desktop models available? Or were they custom built?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, they were released if I remember around 2006 by Diamond Select / Art Asylum. They have released all of the versions, The Cage version, Where No Man Has Gone Before version, the main series version, the CGI version, the mirror universe version, several versions of the refit... I don't know where can they be bought by they pretty often appear on eBay and amazon

  • @giadaverde3625
    @giadaverde36254 жыл бұрын

    I'm new on this Channel, but I love it at first look! Bravo!👍😊💞

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad that you like what you're seeing. But don't watch my Discovery reviews if you like that show :)

  • @michalslatina8004
    @michalslatina80044 жыл бұрын

    Nice. :) And since I know, that u r from my country, tak se zeptam, uz jsi videl ty comicsy, ktere pokryvaji 5.rok STTOS? Zacalo to relativne pred nedavnem a stale to vychazi. Paradne kreslsne a scenare jsou dost na urovni. Tholianske mesto, Sigma Iotia po one dalsi kulturni kontaminaci, etc.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uprimne povedane toto je prvy krat co o nich pocujem :) Nejake linky? Cital som akurat tu prvu sadu Year 4, ktoru zacala pisat Dorothy Fontana, a ta bola super

  • @michalslatina8004

    @michalslatina8004

    4 жыл бұрын

    readcomiconline.to.Aspon doufam.Pisi to na na pro me, novem smartphonu, takze je to pro me nove.Jinak ano! Ten STTOS bbart omnibus, ktery obsahuje 4.rok,castecne psan prave squellou D.C.Fontanou samoz.mam a jsem z nej dodnes, total odvateny! 😁

  • @michalslatina8004

    @michalslatina8004

    4 жыл бұрын

    P. S. Ale zatim ta 5.s.je jeste o rad, vyse! Nekutecne blaho. Pro beznadejne ztracene TOS maniaky, totalni povinnost!!!

  • @therizinosaurus214
    @therizinosaurus2144 жыл бұрын

    Hey look the Enterprise with a bridge window before Abrams and company

  • @chadcastagana9181

    @chadcastagana9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    We see that it is a window when tne ship is miniaturized and Kirk stares thru its window from the outside in "Requiem for Methuseluh"

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it funny that Abrams & co took exactly this little thing from the model but completely changed other things?

  • @Mr74145

    @Mr74145

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not a window it's a sensor panel.

  • @therizinosaurus214

    @therizinosaurus214

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mr74145 if it is a sensor panel then why are no other sensor panel done the same way. Where are all the other sensor panels...it would be silly to have just one like that. And of course it was a painted on detail like the windows that got changed around. The dome on bottom was called the sensor dome.

  • @Mr74145

    @Mr74145

    4 жыл бұрын

    The star trek writer's Bible clearly states that there is no window on the bridge.

  • @dashfatbastard
    @dashfatbastard4 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic! Where did you get that great blue screen footage from?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like it. A 2016 Blu-ray release called "The Roddenberry Vault" - memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series_-_The_Roddenberry_Vault

  • @generationproductions1154
    @generationproductions11544 жыл бұрын

    TrekkieChannel hey guys ............ humm just there seemed to be 2 missing the Animated series and the Refit Enterprise i thought they would be classed as USS Enterprise NCC-1701 original Verants as well ?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's a plan for a future video

  • @generationproductions1154

    @generationproductions1154

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel ah ok cool :)

  • @AustinFan4Life
    @AustinFan4Life4 жыл бұрын

    Should have included the refit for the original NCC-1701

  • @AndrewChapman

    @AndrewChapman

    4 жыл бұрын

    He'll probably cover that too when he does his later video covering the Kelvin timeline 1701 and the Discovery 1701.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's the plan.

  • @Alkonium
    @Alkonium4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed you didn't mention the refit version from the TOS movies, despite specifically excluding the Kelvin timeline version and the retcon version.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they will be covered in the future

  • @HarryPalmerOrchestra
    @HarryPalmerOrchestra4 жыл бұрын

    omg ... it had a window .........

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Weird, right?

  • @kurtsnyder4752

    @kurtsnyder4752

    4 жыл бұрын

    Darth Decius Know about those newfangled shower doors that can be frosted, patterened or clear? The same type thing for the viewscreen which is a section of the bulkhead that is duranium alloy using a similar process for transparent aluminum. It can be opaque or transparent( when activated). In opaque mode, we have seen it as a computer display or a video display with such things as tactical or communication or views from multiple angles from the ships' cameras or just at rest and the bare bulkhead. When activated. it becomes just as like a window. In fact it even looks like a window,even from the exterior and has two way observational ability as in one episode the ship is miniaturized and shown to Kirk and he looks into the bridge and sees the crew frozen in place. In other eps, a scope raises from the nav console that the navigator can look thru for magnified viewing or other tactical information on that viewer. Unfortunately, as seen in many cases, in order to see out,it must be powered and outside forces interfere with it and make it go to a staticy mess, so you can't treat it just like it is a window

  • @mdteletom1288
    @mdteletom12884 жыл бұрын

    I kept expecting a cobra to appear.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    :-)

  • @bobbova8708
    @bobbova87082 жыл бұрын

    Nice video but you failed to note that the deflector dish at the front of the secondary hull was larger on both pilot versions and made smaller for the production version ( 3rd) version of ship.😀

  • @Gerry1of1
    @Gerry1of13 жыл бұрын

    Overall very good, thank you. However you didn't mention the smaller bridge profile and the saucer size is decreased in the final version. Also I notice on your hand held model the dome over the hanger bay is green. I believe this is white in the show. It's supposed to be an observation dome for tractor beam control to drag stuff into the hangar.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great point!

  • @TenchiJeff
    @TenchiJeff4 жыл бұрын

    Is the TOS bridge crooked? Assuming the bump on the back of it on the outside is the turbo lift, and knowing were the lift is inside the bridge, then the bridge would not face forward, but would face on an angle to port.

  • @chadcastagana9181

    @chadcastagana9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your confusing the Enterprise of TOS with TNG

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Correct, the geometry doesn't really fit. I assume they didn't want to have the turbolift door directly behind the captain's chair?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chadcastagana9181 I think I know what he means and I think he's correct

  • @christalbot210

    @christalbot210

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel When they built the bridge set for "The Cage" , they put the elevator directly behind the captain's chair. Alas, once they started filming, they found issues with that location. It was shifted (I don't recall if this was done for "Where No Man Has Gone Before" or not) to one side to be more cinematic, but that caused an issue between the set and the model (which had long been built by then). I think they kind of hoped nobody would notice.

  • @TenchiJeff

    @TenchiJeff

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@christalbot210 Maybe. It's a neat story for why it was like that. It's a neat characteristic of the ship.

  • @spartancanis_yt_channel
    @spartancanis_yt_channel Жыл бұрын

    The cage version was also used in season 2 I think or at least in the remastered version

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    Stock footage was used in all seasons.

  • @rer9287
    @rer92874 жыл бұрын

    You missed the changes in the size of the deflector dish.

  • @johnrettig1880
    @johnrettig18804 жыл бұрын

    Alright .... I hear the music so where are the green girls . AND Bring Me a tankard of Blood Wine ..... petaQ !!!!

  • @virginiaconnor8350

    @virginiaconnor8350

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Orions?

  • @robgyanisu312

    @robgyanisu312

    4 жыл бұрын

    Blood wine? Klingon fool, all civilized folk know to drink Denebian brandy when there are Orion dancing girls around!

  • @johnrettig1880

    @johnrettig1880

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@robgyanisu312 HA YIntagh !!! It's my Rights of Ascension . I'll have any damn thing I want .

  • @virginiaconnor8350

    @virginiaconnor8350

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@robgyanisu312 And Denebian slime devils as well?

  • @LoveLife-yh7ke
    @LoveLife-yh7ke6 ай бұрын

    Really like the 11 foot enterprise. Cool video but I had to watch it muted. The music is irritating AF

  • @stevewalton4771
    @stevewalton47712 жыл бұрын

    No worrd on the sensor dish??

  • @rudolphguarnacci197
    @rudolphguarnacci19720 күн бұрын

    Is that Apollo's hand at 4:00?

  • @super_ficial
    @super_ficial4 жыл бұрын

    When he grabbed the Enterprise with his hand at 4:00 and near the end he stole that idea from the episode that had the god Apollo in it.

  • @chadcastagana9181
    @chadcastagana91814 жыл бұрын

    2:01 They were called "nacelles" back in the 1960's 4:01 A cheaper version of this was used in "The Doomsday Machine" as a wrecked Constitution class starship

  • @christalbot210

    @christalbot210

    4 жыл бұрын

    The U.S.S. Constellation was actually an AMT model of the U.S.S. Enterprise that was intentionally messed up to look like damage. You can really tell in the original footage when it's heading for the Planet Killer. This is also why the Constellation's NCC code is what it is; they were using the numbers from the kit in a different order (though I think they should have used 1710 instead of 1017).

  • @kyle223cat

    @kyle223cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chad Castagana They’re still called nacelles. Bussard collectors are the front part of the nacelle. That’s what the video is referring to.

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Correct

  • @lossatt

    @lossatt

    8 ай бұрын

    @@christalbot2101017 bugged me, too; but reportedly they were told to use a lower number than 1701, leaving few options with the standard decal sheet. (It's actually the later fanon assignment of 1700 to the Constitution that causes the problem (and the retcon to make Enterprise Constitution class).

  • @mrbuck5059
    @mrbuck50594 жыл бұрын

    The bridge of the ship is a really good target. I would rather be sitting in one of the nacelles trying to maneuver the ship.

  • @virginiaconnor8350

    @virginiaconnor8350

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did they have a catwalk in them too?

  • @spockboy
    @spockboy4 жыл бұрын

    And the winner for LAMEST POSSIBLE MUSIC goes to....

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only person here who finds unreleased takes of released songs fascinating?

  • @jonathangoode546
    @jonathangoode5464 жыл бұрын

    What happened to the alternate version from mirror, mirror .the TERRIAN EMPIRE ?

  • @TrekkieChannel

    @TrekkieChannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    As I write in the intro text, this video covers the first 3 "main" versions of the model. There will be a second video covering all of the "alternate" versions of the model

  • @jonathangoode546

    @jonathangoode546

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TrekkieChannel that sounds great I will look forward to it . thank you! Great video 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @craignorris5020
    @craignorris50204 жыл бұрын

    Nice images, but the choice of music could be better

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