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@TisTheWay

2 жыл бұрын

Goes to max screen on my phone. Accidentally hits the end of the vid F spoilers. Welp now to watch it and check out instant gaming.

@bencekiss2447

2 жыл бұрын

. .....

@monostorizsolt2472

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much mate! I was hunting for a discounted AoE 4 now I have it thanks to you

@theheatinferno8420

2 жыл бұрын

RoR tier list plez

@vaporwavertv6444

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a pretty good pc for awhile now but Attila has always run like crap for me. U gave 3 kingdoms a really high score for a game that you heavily critiqued. From your initial review of it, the underlying issue still remains, that there’s not enough replay ability for it.

"Rome total war was so good it ruined my life" Legend 2021

@LEFT4GABEN

2 жыл бұрын

BASED

@tripledigit4835

2 жыл бұрын

SIGMA GRINDSET

@R3GARnator

2 жыл бұрын

Aye, reminds me of "TvTropes will ruin your life".

@thedeviousgreek1540

2 жыл бұрын

Its funny cause its true

@sundancer6694

2 жыл бұрын

I remember the first time my Hasttati were terrorized by Carthaginian war elephants ... totally awesome!!

Wife: "I haven't seen you all week. You've got a mistress, don't you!?" Husband: "Urban cohort...urban cohort..."

@SuperChoronzon

2 жыл бұрын

Thx, I couldn't quite make out what Legend said his friend said, now I know.... oh fuckin' LOOOOL I can remember it well, the anticipation, waiting for that last barracks to be built, so yeah... "Urban Cohort...urban cohort"... indeed.

@Mookee1914

2 жыл бұрын

That made me laugh way more than it should have

@SuperChoronzon

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mookee1914 thanks, needed the reminder, cackling way more than I should for a second time, pmsl 🤪

@pandorasangel2747

2 жыл бұрын

Great, the husband is cheating with an Urban Cohort!

@grantross2609

2 жыл бұрын

you wonder how many great people weren't born because of gaming !!!

Got a friend into total war years ago when he was having some problems by showing him medieval. When he got his hands on medieval 2 he basically became a hermit for a year, at the end of which he showed me his max difficulty campaign where he had taken over the known world as Scotland (his name's Scott) I don't know whether I helped or harmed his life, but I was very proud of him anyway.

@eddeh0772

Жыл бұрын

I’m gonna guess “harmed him” (just knowing how much I can sink into these games)! (Jk, hopefully that was obvious)

@MCSorry

6 ай бұрын

This is absolutely me right now. I've been playing for a week straight (on Very Hard), haven't slept and it has harmed my grades. The game is THAT good.

I must be the only one who actually really likes Empire and Napoleon. The land battles are neat cause the time period is cool (even if the strategy is mostly who has more elite infantry and artillery) but the naval battles are what I love. Naval in those two games is honestly better than in any other total war game I've played, though mostly because I'm a big fan of the age of sail. It does have nice mechanics too though. Empire definitely should be above a D ranking though imo.

@TNR1604

2 жыл бұрын

I think the same. Empire for me personally is the second place after Warhammer

@thisishuhwow

2 жыл бұрын

Napoleon is my #3 tw title, just below med2 and shogun fots Played it recently and it felt like breath of fresh air after spending way too much time on this "warhammer dodging missles simulator"

@edwardfontaine7108

2 жыл бұрын

I love Napoleon.

@A.Foley7777

2 жыл бұрын

Well you are right there was some good Elements naval battles, economy, research and yeah great time periode... BUT diplomacy is nearly useless and biggest problem the ai is since rome total war 1 the worst in battles, deployment bugs and scraficing all cavalry at the beging of the battle for free... when you played warhammer 2 or even attila or rome 2, its really paintfull & boring when come back to a empire total battle. Not enjoyable better battle ai & diplomacy would be a great game. so its fair to get ranked at the bottom

@MaMastoast

2 жыл бұрын

I just really dislike that all land battles feel extremely repetitve due to most infantry being more or less the same with varying stats.

Now we need a tier list of all Legend's tier lists.

@sicthemutt

2 жыл бұрын

lmfao

@pascaldifolco4611

2 жыл бұрын

We need a tier list of all his profanities, I know one that will be sure S tier 🤣

@jabloko992

2 жыл бұрын

@@pascaldifolco4611 is it 'IT'S FUCKING GARBAGE' ?

@rickkybobby8118

2 жыл бұрын

@@pascaldifolco4611 Ha. It'd be a whole load of "REDACTED" in 2021. And "cunt" which you can still get away with

@H0kram

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickkybobby8118 For now. But his workarounds are pretty hilarious too. Such as '' unpaid interns '' for slaves. Which is pretty damn accurate.

I always loved sniping an enemy general in Attila when they attack by boat since land units had such an INSANE sea sickness debuff

@minhquanphung9641

2 жыл бұрын

flying rocks go bruhhh, love it

@Nezzerof

2 жыл бұрын

Goddamnit Patterrz why are you everywhere D:

@Kvs-vf9nt

2 жыл бұрын

I love Attila and I hate it.. It's so hard as Roman's and yes it's meant to but damn..

@dfsfssdfsdfs3084

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kvs-vf9nt 1212 makes it so much better tho. Still no as close to Rome two which is above all other total war games by a long shot.

@RJTradess

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kvs-vf9nt gotta play 1212

Attila is still my favorite, most people disagree with that but i do enjoy dark and miserable tone of the game. Also, the only game in the franchise where the battle are actually epic in the truest meaning of the word. The music, visual effects and the theme are just ridiculously on point.

@user-gq8ht4nw7i

Жыл бұрын

Attila is super underrated. Feels like a horror game when you’re playing as Rome and barbarians are everywhere. Also the fire and destruction mechanics are soooo much better than any other tw.

@brandonhughes645

Жыл бұрын

Attila seems like the most difficult one aswell with the Roman empire at its collapse and on legendary difficultyl

@BattleGhul

Жыл бұрын

Clearly the one I played the most, with Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 completing the top 3. I actually really like the settlement management in Attila. One of the the main reasons I always default back to Attila. Enemies razing everything is annoying tbf.

@caioFAA

Жыл бұрын

Tottaly agree with you, my 2 favorites are warhammer 2 and attila, mainly the DLC age of charlemagne.

@almightybogza

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gq8ht4nw7i The problem I have with it is that its very missile focused. My armoured romans get destroyed even in Tetsudo. The upgrades are broken and awful.. roman units are just shit especially early. The time period is awesome.. but its not portrayed well in the game.. its not elite roman units fighting hopeless battles against barbarian hordes. Your legio get raped by germanic band or whatever lol. Also I dont care what people think but its not that hard.. any TW game can be cheesed. Attila is easy to cheese with the general death mechanic for example.. I won battles I should never have won just because of that dumb "feature". The AI cheats like crazy and it shows too..

Playing as Bactria in Rome 2 was one of the most enjoyable campaigns I've ever played in the entire franchise. You're essentially playing an unholy combination of Macedonia and Scythia with their horse archers. The start isn't difficult, but it's hard to maintain momentum due to how far the other settlements are from you.

@kurt9034

2 жыл бұрын

Baktria was my first Rome 2 playthrough ever! 😁

@Rilez616

6 ай бұрын

I remember playing then once too, one of my more memorable campaigns along with masilla for some reason

A part of me wants Legend to write an autobiography just to see how much Total War is intertwined with his life.

Shogun 2 remains the pinnacle. Just my take. A truly balanced and weighty game that requires real strategy. It's aged beautifully, too.

@chupetaparamahboy

5 ай бұрын

assuming your savefile doesn't get corrupted. or if you dare use mods the soundfiles get screwed up (archer units make cannon sounds), but yeah, it's pretty good

@pwrm8721

18 күн бұрын

I like the sync kills, even though I wished for better sync kills in basically any Total War game...even though I think they bring more gameplay problems that might make the added immersion not worth it.

Empire was my first ever Total War game and still my favorite to this day. Its mostly the era it is set in that carries it so hard for me, gameplay might not be the best but the era is so awesome. Couldn't really get into Napoleon because it lacked so much content plus only like 5 playable nations

@jacemenard9168

2 жыл бұрын

......darthmod............darthmod.....m

@erecvonaue7636

2 жыл бұрын

Abolutely with you. Empire was a well rounded tw. I dont understand his reasons.

@paulstarstarpaul5700

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was my first too and was also the one I played the most. For me the only weaknesses are that there were so many new playing mechanics implemented, but very few to none were used to its full potential. That’s one of the reasons why I think Empire 2 needs to happen, because everytime I play it I have fun however I always have to think about what could be.

@TrungNguyen-yg3xj

2 жыл бұрын

@@erecvonaue7636 No, his reasons are completely justifiable. Empire was not a well-rounded TW game at all. Here are some of the many flaws with the game: - No unit collision with no workarounds, essentially making melee combat one of the worst in the franchise - Diplomacy is fucking broken - Retarded AI: Lining up the infantry 5 feets in front of your men to commit suicide, charging their general head-on, very finicky unit behaviors - Perhaps the worst siege battles in the franchise's history - Forgettable and repetitive music - Little unit variations (though this might be due to the setting) - Guns in this game sound worse than those in Medieval 2 lol - Square formation is utterly useless

@Swaggaccino

2 жыл бұрын

@@erecvonaue7636 Empire isnt bad at all but when you compare it to the other TWs, it just falls behind. Keep in mind it was also glitchy af at launch. I'm not sure if they ever fixed it.

I really love that there is separate list of "on release"! That takes away any questions and thinking "what if"

Just finished Attila as WRE on legendary without abandoning everything except Italy. Absolute torture, basically had to fight and cheese the same settlement defence battle like 300 times.

@Tonyx.yt.

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i feel the pain, endless pyrric defensive battles in every single town against a 3-4 times more numerous enemy

@HB013b

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonyx.yt. I figured that the limit of enemy's numerical superiority is 5 times your numbers. Except if your troops are specifically effective against his, for example Romans with their testudo vs horse archers.

@vladimirvovk8284

2 жыл бұрын

i manage to complete it on legendary without abandoning anything at all, but i basically played along with Legend's this is total war as WRE campaign from 2016 and used some cheeky strats to knock out some of my barbarian neighbours early on. you're right, it is torture. Thank god i am a masochist. Also, i would argue that ERE campaign is even more difficult on legendary, due to sassanid's vassal swarm

@HB013b

2 жыл бұрын

@@vladimirvovk8284 that might be true, but you can cheese their economy and WRE is swarmed by everyone anyway.

@Tonyx.yt.

2 жыл бұрын

@@HB013b yes, around 5 still manageable with some cheese, 3 times dont requires much effort

Medieval 2 is such a great game even after all these years it still is a very enjoyable game to play from time to time.

@SereglothIV

2 жыл бұрын

It was my favourite Total War game until I played Warhammer II

@peregrinemiles7936

2 жыл бұрын

Plus the modding community for it is insane

@nealm6764

2 жыл бұрын

@@peregrinemiles7936 Seems like all the mods are older. Are there newer mods for it. I just grabbed SS 6.4 last night and it seemed all the mods were 2012 or earlier.

@peregrinemiles7936

2 жыл бұрын

SS is a solid mod, but I usually play around in the LOtR mods these days, they tend to be fairly up to date.

@spamquisition4046

2 жыл бұрын

@@nealm6764 Divide and Conquer is a Lord of the Rings mod and it's still in active development with a fairly big community. Likewise the Call of Warhammer Beginning of the End Times mod. I believe those 2 also has a lot of sibling mods floating around so yeah, fantasy mods is more active than historical mods nowadays

Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai was incredible. The Naval battles were amazing you could get Naval shore batteries involved in the Naval battle if it was at a port and your Navy could bombard land targets like a Black Ark from WH2 and on some maps you could see the Navy in the distance out to sea.

Balance issues aside, the Atilla campaign is engaging because it's SO hard, but you can make such a difference on the battlefield. It really adds a lot of excitement to the battles as each one can really turn the tide. The Mongol stack spam does make Eastern factions almost unbearably difficult, though.

My first encounter with the Total War Series was Rome Total War, I loved the opening cinematic. Even tried recreating it in custom games once with the same factions and units while trying to make it as accurate as possible, to predictably poor results. Music still holds up, though.

@xDoomsDayx100

2 жыл бұрын

I used to play it on my Dad's old dell desktop, windows xp and 256 mbs of ram. Rome ran like shit but I played it everyday I could hahaha. Miss those days

@fallenhero4550

2 жыл бұрын

The Divinitus soundtrack really sells it when you're on the campaign map adding to the mysticism of the classical/roman era.

It's so sad that Empire wasn't a good game... So much potential for Empire II with new technologies.

@Raider0075

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I hope one day CA will make an Empire II game.

@Moritz19081980

2 жыл бұрын

@@Raider0075 Empire 2 would be like Easter and Christmas at the same day...

@ArcaneAnouki

2 жыл бұрын

I can't decide which I want more, Medieval 3 or Empire 2, but I know I want either more than I want Warhammer 3

@curtissaidso5048

2 жыл бұрын

Empire was amazing back in the day

@seekerX3

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm I loved Empire, but legend is right with the diplomacy there, its awful

Rome total war still has some of the best most interesting mechanics of any total war game. The way your generals would organically grow depending on where you placed them, who their parents were and how they performed. It makes warhammers perk system look childish. They even made it so that in battle the speeches were generated based on your generals personality, the size of your army and the size of the enemy, the state of the war with the enemy, your battle history, where you are, and a ton of other stuff that just made it feel so organic. Add the fact that the battle map was generated based on where you attacked or were attacked, if you were near the coast you could see the sea and if there was a fleet in the sea you could see that fleet, fighting near a settlement you could see it in the distance, even roads were included. The population system that added a high level of management to your army sizes and settlement growth and drastically effected how the game was played on higher difficulties. The fact that replenishment was incredibly difficult needing to go back to a settlement with the appropriate building so you could replenish units made every battle count and every casualty matter. You had to really manage your army over a campaign, attrition really took its toll. The sheer ambition of Rome is totally unprecedented and unmatched by any other game in the series. The level of immersion and replay value was staggering with all these organic stories and characters emerging over the course of a campaign. It really made those heroic victories feel heroic, and I don’t really think that any other game in the series has quite come close to that.

@termitreter6545

Жыл бұрын

Medieval 2 has all of that and more though. Thats why its rated to so highly, it took the great things about Rome and polished/expanded them.

See as a big fan of 'The Last Kingdom' TV series, I loved playing Thrones of Britannia. It's certainly stripped back compared to the non Saga TWs, but it has great siege maps, excellent UI design and runs super well. They also did fix a fair few of the issues it had at launch in patches. It's by no means perfect and you do likely have to be interested in the time period, but for a quick campaign every now and then I actually think it's very underrated.

@megawave8759

2 жыл бұрын

For me Thrones of britannia is underrated and one of my favorites

@Droidman1231

2 жыл бұрын

Thrones of Britannia was my first TW game (super odd I know) but it'll always have a soft spot in my heart, especially since I didn't know any other YW game at the time.

@ameertaqdees6063

2 жыл бұрын

@@Droidman1231 try shogun 2 u will love it

@strikemasterice2004

2 жыл бұрын

I also especially love the food system that require you to have enough food to sustain each unit. Combined with minor settlements not having walls, it actually allows you to wage economic warfare on your enemies by capturing their sources of food production, and have the same done to you. It makes it so that even the strongest kingdoms have a "soft underbelly" that needs to be protected and battles become much more decisive and important to the outcome of a campaign. Like what King Alfred said in Season 1 of the Last Kingdom, "we cannot let our enemies march through our lands unopposed." When I'm being invaded and my main army is elsewhere, it becomes a desperate race to raise a force capable of repelling the enemy before they cripple my economy and food supply. It feels like the fate of the kingdom is my hands, and hands of the hastily assemble militia that will fight and die to protect their families.

@megawave8759

2 жыл бұрын

@@strikemasterice2004 Yeah man, I love the fact that i can not recruit full 20 stacks because I can't feed them all and the settlement scheme which is similar to shogun is also good

Medieval II was so great because it was the last TW game before the "GREAT AGE OF DLC" Yes it had an expansion pack, but the sheer diversity of units in each faction alone was amazing. Not to mention the great events, black plague, Mongols invasion, discovering the Americas, just to name a few. If they can make Medieval THREE as good as two it goes straight to S tier

@Arcomist

2 жыл бұрын

They will make md3 barebones on release and fill it up with different factions as an avalanche of DLC, same as with warhammer, because it makes them much more money. Better not raise your expectations for release.

@connoisseurofcookies2047

2 жыл бұрын

M3 should be made on an all new engine, "Total War III," which would basically reverse engineer the TWII engine but with the addition of all the best received mechanics of other TW titles. The allure of M2 itself was that no two factions played the same and that every culture had its unique 'flavour,' much like the TW Warhammer series.

@addochandra4745

2 жыл бұрын

@@Arcomist Yeah Video game's business model nowadays are pretty sucks for consumer. Better wait until Sale to buy it (or just not on day one release date), because besides obtain it cheaper, I think you'll get a much stable game...

@godlymoose9118

2 жыл бұрын

When does the Americas get discovered? My game always crashes before I get to that point

@beanhavok2287

2 жыл бұрын

@@godlymoose9118 I think it's not a specific date, (it's been years since I've played) It's more a navel port tech you unlock, at which point you can build the biggest ships, then basically you sail west through the Fog of war until you find something.

I am one of these Shogun 2 and FOTS returning players. Absolutely love the polish of the game, the sprites' combat animations, the sound design, the art. It really scratches an itch I have about once a year the get into that place and period. I hope CA can recapture what makes this game special in their future historical titles - Medieval 3 perhaps... wink wink

@MaMastoast

2 жыл бұрын

My main thing with shogun 2, is that I feel like I'm always playing the same faction. To me, unlocking and progressing to new units a very important part of the game... So when every faction has nearly identical rosters, rosters that aren't even that big... that really kills any reason for me to play the game more than once. I will say that shogun 2 was the first and only total war game where I spent any real time in multiplayer, I can't believe they havent given us the ability to rename and recolor custom elite units since shogun 2.

@aamigz

2 жыл бұрын

my medieval 3 is ATilla medival 1212AD mod... ahahahaha

@remembertotakeshowerspleas355

2 жыл бұрын

Late campaign FOTS gets so fucking boring though, and all the siege are braindead unless you're doing a traditional units only run. It works well in the early game where there's an almost even balance between traditional and modern units that the AI knows how to use but by the late game every battle consists of marching your artillery/infantry into firing range and then that's it. And the naval battles...If only they played as good as they looked!

@marfin4325

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaMastoast The samey factions are definitely the Achilles heel of Shogun 2, however it is a much better game as a whole than warhammer AND Three Kindoms.

@termitreter6545

Жыл бұрын

Otoh, I dont get at all why people like Shogun 2. Theres little depth and strategy in the battles, outside of some dumb skill spam, and despite the visual quality, the unit animations and physics are so weird and unbelievable that it felt like a massive downgrade from Medieval 2. Everything your units did looked so stupid, units just phased through each other all the time. It wasnt even "hollywood" quality that some people try to frame it as, because during fighting most soldiers just standa around doing nothing. The warscape engine was so much worse here, because they actually made a game about melee. That doesnt count stuff like all factions being the same, the campaign map being one of the most boring CA has ever made, overpowered super-agents, the naval battles suck... IMO the series are Medieval 2 was a mess, sometimes enjoyable, sometimes less so. Only Total Warhammer 2 really brought it to a good level of quality.

now if warhammer 2 has naval combat of empire, layered sieges of medieval 2, infantry melee/ranged battle mechanics/animation of shogun 2 and amphibious landings of rome 2, it will be the greatest total war game in all categories.

@user-ui6fu1ne2c

2 жыл бұрын

If i recall correctly they can't implement naval battles due to it being a separate IP by Games Workshop, Man o War. But since they abandoned it i do hope that someday we will see naval battles in TWW, the iron dreadnaughts of dwarves shredding everything and being a carrier for gyrocopters sounds fun af

You know, you're a proper Legend buff, when you watch a 40min video of him, ranking all Total War Games, while you've already got and played every single one of them.

'I skipped classes to play Rome 1, it could ruin my life.' Well, look where it brought you now :D

“Lost a whole GPA cause of Rome Total War” Same, but with Total War Warhammer II. I literally uninstalled Steam and refuse to redownlod until the college semester is over.

@winndypops

2 жыл бұрын

Shogun Fall of the Samurai came out just before some really important exams for me back in High School, I promised myself I'd just ignore it until summer. Was not easy, and I still wasted a lot of time playing standard Shogun 2 but managed to power though. Stay strong brother.

@MechaMan3451

2 жыл бұрын

@@winndypops thanks. Once these finals are over, I’mma have a full week where I just game out. Like a mini stay-at-home vacation.

@bcbitchkkv

2 жыл бұрын

Lol - and here I am, having begun replaying it over the last week with my semester finals coming up in December :D

Been watching you since maybe 2013-2015, crazy to see you review these games all these years later seeing you have played them and now in Warhammer 👍🏼 love you legend, will always stay updated!

As far as Empire: Total War goes I liked the setting, and I actually liked the multiplayer. Honestly the campaign really was that awful, but the multiplayer was quite enjoyable back in the day. It's the only Total War game I have put any effort into as far as the multiplayer goes.

@jackdro9045

2 жыл бұрын

Naval battles were so much fun

@cobbler9113

2 жыл бұрын

For me, the map, especially in Europe was a big disappointment. I mean France has two provinces for heavens sake.

@VerilyTriumphant

Жыл бұрын

I put 800 hours in Empire Total War multiplayer. Loved that game. Sadly, it's completely dead now.

@buzzinggz556

10 ай бұрын

Empire has a better campaign than Napoleon . You only have 4 factions in napoleon

One of the things I really miss from Medieval 1 is the ability to give individual generals titles that affect their competency, and that each individual unit had its own captain with traits etc. Died with rome 1 never to return probably

@spamquisition4046

2 жыл бұрын

I wish you can attach Heroes/Officers to units so even your random spearmen can have some character to them. The Army veterancy and ranks thing from Rome 2 and Attila was great as well.

@destroyah377

2 жыл бұрын

@@spamquisition4046 I always loved zooming in and watching the one samurai in ashigaru units ripping through everyone. Would definitely love to get that feeling again but with more detail and customisation

@spamquisition4046

2 жыл бұрын

@@destroyah377 Yeah, or the knights and standard bearers leading my unit of peasant spearmen. It'll work so well with Warhammer too since they have all those magic banners.

@kylewilliams8114

2 жыл бұрын

While not the same feudal set up, 3 kingdoms allows you to give titles (like Coiled Dragon) and those give buffs while increasing salary. I think it's good

@frosum179

2 жыл бұрын

Are names of power for Dark Elves in Warhammer 2 not similar?

Got my friend into total war through Shogun 2. We've been playing co-op campaigns and having a blast in a game I haven't played in years. My friend fell in love with total war and is now upgrading his PC to run Warhammer 2 so we can co op that too!

@darth0tator

2 жыл бұрын

good for you, guys I also had really great co-op campaigns in Shogun 2:FotS and in WH2 especially with giving command to the other player, I was the artillery captain to my friends dwarven armies, that gave him capabilities to micro his slayers and blasting charges etc. and he was my High Elven Cavalry commander, spurring around the battlefield, delivering devastating charges :D great fun

@jureissicpork4432

2 жыл бұрын

@@darth0tator cant wait to carry his ass with magic :D

@Omega4Productions

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Got my friend into the series by getting him to play Shogun 2 and now he blames me for converting him, haha. He’s since played Rome 2 and Attila, and he owns Medieval 2, just hasn’t played it yet.

The very first Rome game I just played so friggin much. Grew hooked to your channel because so many things I remember learning to cheese you were right on it. Was like watching my past.

Rome total war brought the series into my life, medieval 2 total war made it a staple in my games library. Even today I find myself running a campaign on it here and there, the way your generals adapted traits along with the chivalry and dread levels, improved upon Romes traits. Something modern total wars don’t invest as much time into, or have as much weight with especially the fantasy based ones.

Man i fucking loved the OG rome total war. My dad managed to get the collector's edition which had these amazing metal figurines of various units in the game. After he got me my own pc i asked for the discs so i could play it, i didn't understand a thing because i was very young but something about controlling those massive armies was just magical to me.

@rumplstiltztinkerstein

2 жыл бұрын

I remember playing the greeks as a kid. Put all the phallanx units blobbed together, in a circle formation. The AI would go crazy trying to run towards the flanks of the spears, but since all units are in circle, the enemy would just bug out trying to find somewhere to charge. 10/10 would put 5 units of phallanx occupying the space of a single unit again.

@juwebles4352

2 жыл бұрын

Pathfinding was so bad turned me off tbh

@MateusVIII

2 жыл бұрын

I also started playing it as a kid! An older cousin showed it to me and I loved it. I was horrible at the campaing, mostly filled my cities with town watch and did not understand why I could not win battle, hahahaha. Loved the quick battle feature though, used it so much!

@KentuckyFriedJohansson

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of this collector's edition, and can't really find any info on it on the web. Do you have a source or something about it? Really want to see those metal figurines!

When it came out, Rome 2 turned me off from the series it was an absolute betrayal for those who preordered. But, it has improved a ton and brought me back to the series, in conjunction with warhammer 2

@christopheryoung2874

2 жыл бұрын

rome 2 is much better these days

@fl3669

2 жыл бұрын

Rome 2 is great nowadays. I waste hours and hours on it.

@AntiTMG

2 жыл бұрын

Ya Rome 2 when it first launched was like a mother killing her kid to me

@NWA744

2 жыл бұрын

I think they were over ambitious at launch, which caused them to lose sight of what makes a Total War game great, but they stuck with it for years after release instead of abandoning it and it is actually an amazing game still today. I feel like the game deserves an A for today just because of how much effort CA put into righting the ship that is Rome II, and how they have campaigns that span from the earliest days of Rome, all the way to the beginning of the end with the Empire Divided campaign.

As much as I love TW2 - you have to pay a LOT to get everything if you compare to previous titles. There's still quite a bit of content I don't own

@Debilinside

2 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right but also kind of disagree. I mean, yeah if you drop everything to your steam basket and buy at once its somewhere between 2-300$... But do you need to do that? Will you really play with every DLC at once? If you wait for discounts you can get almost every DLC for 5-10$, sometimes even less. If you use instant gaming you get a similar price, but basically any time. Is 5$ a lot? Not really, its basically a cup of coffee, or half a pack of cigarette in most country. People spend several times more on a casual night out with the guys drinking. So I bought 1, played it, enjoyed it sometimes for weeks. When I was done, bought the next one. They actually give you really good value as every 5 dollar gives you at least several hours of fun, depending on how good you are at the game. I played the wood elf DLC for at lest 30 hours or even more and it only cost me 8$. So yes, if you just check the prices and add all of them up it seems expensive, but the value and playtime you can get out of it is insane and well worth it. Also if we can indeed transfer all DLC to the TW3 that will be insane. Meaning the 5 bucks you spent in TW1 actually serves you in 3 games.

@aldirnila6215

2 жыл бұрын

That being said the (extra) content is much more interesting than in previous titles. Factions in Warhammer have very different armies and campaign mechanics. The new campaign mechanics of some DLCs are also unique and very fun. You can play without these DLCs but they help refresh the whole experience over time. Overall, that's why TW2 stays with the highest number of concurrent players by far.

@canncannthepixieman

2 жыл бұрын

@@Debilinside I don't disagree with that at all, and I like knowing that there is extra content on tap basically when I need more. I guess it partly comes down to whether you're happy with the amount of content you get from the base game at launch. If so, then actually new content released over time gives great value for players and keeps us playing. (Contrast that to day one dlc which is frustrating imho)

For three kingdoms supposedly they had the Northern Campaigns DLC nearly finished before the plug was cut, it would have been one of the more important dates to settle first part of the entire era. What is bitter though is that in a way the game doesn't even deserve its title. If you put all the DLC together you would barely just cover most of the "first" part of the Three Kingdoms Era and you would still be missing a lot of great characters too. Which in the game's case is very important versus other total wars. CA could have pulled a Warhammer on it but making a brand new game that has nothing to do with the first doesn't remotely look like a recipe for success.

@joshua41175

2 жыл бұрын

This is strange to me, because three kingdoms looked very bad from the sidelines and I only ever heard negative things about it.

@the_tactician9858

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshua41175 It was a bit of an odd card, for sure. The heroes worked really well imo, but risked turning away both hardcore historical fans for being bs and fantasy fans for not being full-on Dynasty Warriors. And it had very little prospect for proper DLC's left, and the first DLC was an absolute disaster with only 10 unique characters and a passive campaign (I might have been one of the only people out there who actually enjoyed a campaign with them). To add to that, there was very little unit variety and there really were only 1 or 2 strong army setups. However, it probably still has the best diplomacy system in Total War history, the AI is pretty good 9 times out of 10 (and changes behaviour depending on difficulty settings, which is so undervalued!) and the battles play out very smooth ict contemporary titles. One of the few issues I have left with WH2 is that soldiers take so long to actually start dying. A volley of arrows should kill about 10% of a non-shielded unit, but in WH2 it just shaves off that amount of health with 0 casualties. 3K does this better imo, you actually feel like your combat actions have immediate consequences.

@joshua41175

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_tactician9858 well I think it's mostly fine because we get to look at it from a table top perspective as well. Yes body's don't fall but individual models have their own hp bars. It is easier to balance imo and just feels better. It just takes a bit of a different perspective to accomplish that. Should the ever chosen weilding the sword of khaine dab on the haters while moonwalking through kislev? Absolutely.

@the_tactician9858

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshua41175 I know that, and it's not like it doesn't work and isn't balanced, it just feels weird, especially when coming from older Total War games, to see an artillery round or magic attack do f*ck all to the number of soldiers of a unit, even though 40 of them just got launched to orbit. In that same sense, it feels weird to see an army that you just beated to 20% hit points still have half their troops. It fits the game, that I'll agree on, and it works well for Warhammer as a balance to the ridiculous amount of magic or ranged attacks available, but I personally prefer a more realistic system overall.

@joshua41175

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_tactician9858 I mean, I'll never get over praetorian guard taking a onager to and knock over 13 models and only 2 stay down, so that's why I'm having a hard time seeing where you're coming from. Even in shogun you'd have yari peasants that take multiple flinches from archers before going down.

My first foray into the Total War series was Medieval 2 and it was absolutely epic. My only previous experiences in RTS were classic like AoE II and Warcraft 2 and 3 and this was mind boggling. Huge empires and battles and sieging enormous metropolises (were the built building showed!) and 3 walled citadels were amazing for the time! Even the complexity of game mechanics with diplomats, spies and assassins (and the small videos!) were the reason I spent countless hours on this game! Truly an amazing way into an epic franchise!

@declansmyth1973

2 жыл бұрын

I always loved that touch of detail from CA. The fact you can see your buildings on the battle map made you motivated to defend your city.

@Joaquin_Peyronel

6 ай бұрын

It should be in S

Prediction: Warhammer II is S-Tier.

@user-nl6qk8lj4o

2 жыл бұрын

No

@therealikitclaw8124

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-nl6qk8lj4o yes

I agree wholeheartedly with the Troy pick, campaign map looked really good, some decent features, ran really well, introduced some really solid features which would go on to be implemented in Warhammer 2. I even got the game for free, but I got so bored after finishing it once as Sparta. The battles are so boring, the mythological stuff is good, but they didn't go into it enough and only really half tried.

I remember seeing someone playing shogun total war back around 2001 and remember being completely blown away at the strategy involved. Flanking attacks, hiding units in trees etc. was something I don't recall seeing in any other game up until that point. I never knew the name of the game at the time, so I didn't see any game remotely approaching the strategic depth of shogun until Dawn of War came out with its cover, morale and stealth mechanics.

@elvastan

6 ай бұрын

The games Myth: The Fallen Lords and Myth II had these mechanics and came out in 1996 and 1997 respectively, and were also 3d games. They were successful, but not to the level shogun was.

I miss the maps on Rome total war mapping to the actual world. That’s still such a missed feature

@danb4900

2 жыл бұрын

Its not. Im presuming you are a Warhammer fan? Even Rome 2 has that.

@DiceandGlory

2 жыл бұрын

@@danb4900 yeah I am. It’s good it’s in the historical titles. I skipped everything between Rome and WH1

@Cekkaaaaaaaa

2 жыл бұрын

3K does it

@lindagoad2163

2 жыл бұрын

Kind of. I mean the battles where half the map was unclimable hills was always a bit awful.

@goodcomrade2949

2 жыл бұрын

Thrones has it

God i remember medieval total war first total war game i ever played, and i played it when i was like 8. spent far too much time in custom matches with all artillery armies just dumping on castles

personally I absolutely love Attila, it's definitely my favourite total war because of battle mechanics like you said but also the challenge. It has it's flaws like performance and stupid tech traps + corruption mechanics, but other than that I think the campaign is really fun, challenging and immersive. It's the only total war where I feel genuinely threatened by the AI and the first 5 years of WRE and ERE are pretty scary. It gives battles a truly epic feel cos you truly are fighting for the Roman Empire's life and one wrong step could cost you a whole province. It also has arguably the best DLC and mods of any total war game - Last Roman, Age of Charlemagne, 1212 (medieval 2 with better graphics), Ancient Empires (rome 2 but less of a slogfest), Rise of Mordor (Third Age with better graphics). Endless replayability and it has every pre-gunpowder historical total war experience packed in.

Shogun total war had the best videos ever from Ninjas to diplomats to Geisha videos. The outcome of a agent was shown during the videos and it was revealed halfway through whether it was a succes or failure, creating great suspense.

@Spaced92

2 жыл бұрын

Some of those videos were brutal, especially trying to assassinate a Geisha, they were like terminators in Shogun 1 lmao.

@Joaquin_Peyronel

6 ай бұрын

Like in Medieval 2

Interesting, in my experience the issues with Troy were largely fixed; the chariots were nerfed to a reasonable degree, they can't bowl over elite infantry anymore; they've now settled into their role as chaff destroyers. Collision... okay, yes, still a problem sometimes, but it can be managed. And the fundamental combat, where flanking is so heavily optimized, feels super good. And the factoins feel very different; Hector's standard anvil-and-hammer tactics are very different from Odysseus's mad skirmisher kiting, is in turn very different from Hippolyta's high energy hammer-and-hammer gameplay.

@1219nan

2 жыл бұрын

There were still some gamebreaking bugs and some really frustrating things when I last played(September) and I don’t think there was a patch since then. Health doesn’t increase with general level like it should. Achilles’ challenger mechanic would break if a challenger’s faction gets destroyed. AI basically is like “fuck fronts” yoloing into the middle of your territory to sack a couple settlements before dying. Instead of Total War Troy it’s more like Total War Greece because it’s almost always Troy invading Greece instead of the other way around. You can also cheese every siege battle with Hydra units and poison but that’s more user focused so it doesn’t matter too much. If you check the forums there’s probably a lot more bugs/frustrations but these are the one’s I’ve experienced. There are some positives but if it had like 2 more patches to fix the bugs it would be great. AI probably can’t be fixed.

@nonevahed5559

2 жыл бұрын

@@1219nan ah, I haven't played since February because of hand issues, good to know.

Shogun 2 was my introduction to Total War. I never looked back. I still play it alot... and I might even be able to challenge you on how many hours you have on Warhammer 2. Warhammer 2 though has definitely supplanted Shogun 2 for me. But even though Shogun 2 is unquestionably my favorite (next to TWW2)... I still agree with 95% of what you said. Totally fair assessments. I mean someone could get really nitpicky and go into the smallest details but broad strokes... this is a really good list.

Rome 2 was the first Total War title I played and to this day it still has a special place in my heart. I had never played any game like it at the time, so for me it was mindblowing. I still come back to it from time to time

Great TA man I needed that honest appraisal, you have saved me a great deal of pain & suffering

Feels good to hear other osts than TWW2 battle music everytime lol great tierlist as usual

It's so refreshing to see Medieval 2 and Rome 1 not being put on a SSS+ pedestal in 2021

@Pikilloification

2 жыл бұрын

Why

@Vyleea

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Pikilloification Because there are some very loud people with very thick nostalgia glasses.

@cyanide7270

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vyleea Except some of us still think theyre great even with their flaws. Yes, nostalgia is a big part of it, but this tier list is looking at them with the vein of "Look at what we can do now, and look at the improvements, in hindsight these games werent that great." At the time though? they actually were the best of their kind and among the top of the whole strategy genre. So to say that they DONT deserve a high ranking, is as much a cop out and ignorant idea as thinking theyre the greatest.

@Remis7

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyanide7270 Who said they don't deserve high ranking? The SSS+ isn't the only high rank

@frankkobold

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyanide7270 well, depend what your goal is. Rating for players who had it at that time? Yes, you are right. For new ones, who think about buying one of them? No, it does not matter how good it was, it only matters how well it aged.

Empire total war D tier? Garbage take. Easy A or B tier. Amazing unit variety, scale, and nuanced tactics.

Completely agree with you regarding the battles in Attila. The battles in Attila is what makes it a A tier game on my list :)

If Medieval 2 doesn't end up in S tier for both lists, I'll eat my socks

@user-mw9rs8zk3n

2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for a video of you eating your socks

@hairybullocks507

2 жыл бұрын

This may have been an ill-advised comment

@tripledigit4835

2 жыл бұрын

@@hairybullocks507 I want proof, show me proof

If i was to do this vid myself, other than not being as well done, it would be near on identical, rankings and reasoning. The only reason I differ is personal reason with shogun 2, it came out at a time where playing online with my best mate was especially important because of life issues and Shogun 2 was the first game to really make that work.

Shogun 2 was my first introduction into the total war franchise and it blew my mind. Getting introduced into the total war gamestyle coming from stratgey game like civ or stellaris gave me everything I wanted in my strategy games. Turn-based campaign with RTS battles. Shogun 2 is amazing. Thinking about it now, the combat was very rock-paper-scissors to the extent that yari peasants hard countered ANY cav in the game, elite or cheap it didnt matter it hard countered it. yari pesents then got hard countered by swords and so on. Campaign wise it was interesting but the factions themselves really didnt play differently. All that changed was the starting location which made the early game varied but mid/late game was the same. Fall of the Samurai played differently enough to be its own game which astounded me and brought in the gunpowder/line battles that I loved so much about empire. Mixing those two made a great combination that helped fix the rock-paper-scissors style of gameplay because yoloing your elite units into low tier gunpowder units would get them killed. In shogun 2 that was a viable strat but in FotS you had to think a little harder.

Attila had the most dynamic sieges in the series by far, optimization held it back, and units needed a bit more diversity but nothing has come close

@torquevonthorne948

2 жыл бұрын

I think Attila is the only TW where the defender will sally out to attack your artillery if player left it undefended

@Kublaioi

2 жыл бұрын

Dynamic? Thrones has the best sieges out of all total wars

@arsduk

Жыл бұрын

@@Kublaioi so is ToB a good game? I've had it for a long time, but I still haven't played it properly. Just 18 turns of campaign and that's it. 2 days ago I downloaded it again and I'm going to give it a chance

@Kublaioi

Жыл бұрын

@@arsduk Yeah it is, go on very hard difficulty with Sudreyar (if you like vikings) or Mierce (if you like English factions), you can try West Seaxe too but it generally gets easy after you conquer a bit

@arsduk

Жыл бұрын

@@Kublaioi Already started with Circenn, trying to make Scotland great again :D

What's your opinion of the building systems in the older games versus the newer games? Medieval 2 allowed you to build basically all buildings in a town or castle that were available, no build slots or anything like that, and while I know that that is theoretically worse game design, since choices are generally a good thing to force upon your players, the modern system just feels worse. Maybe that is because they streamlined it or executed it poorly, but the Medieval 2 settlement management feels a lot more satisfying than Warhammer's. And then there's the recruitment system, I really adore the fact that units need to return to settlements that can recruit them to replenish, it makes me feel like I'm assembling and reinforcing an army more than just waiting for 2-5 turns for it to replenish. I love Warhammer 2, but its campaign side feels a lot weaker than Medieval 2's.

@raureif1874

2 жыл бұрын

The old building system had meaningful choices you had to make. Do you build a trading port in a north-sea city or 3 grain markets in your interior towns? You almost never have enough money to develop every settlement at the same time, so you had to make priorities which upgrade gave you the highest return of investment. The new system on the other hand gives you fewer choices in my opinion. Build 1 recruitment province and then spam the same template of growth --> fortification --> economy in every other province until the end of the game.

@arthanor9631

2 жыл бұрын

There's a big difference between choice because of too many opportunities, like Medieval 2, and too few like Warhammer 2. I've played a lot more of warhammer 2, but the city development is trash. Maybe unlimited buildings is too much, but then a hybrid with growth per city kinda like hordes or something could do well, with capitals intrinsically growing faster and able to reach further. The building slot system is really boring.

@spamquisition4046

2 жыл бұрын

I really like the landmarks and resource system of Warhammer but yes, the old Medieval 2 system is better for me because all cities are important and you can really get into the nitty gritty of empire management. My fav part of the old recruitment is how you can recruit one elite unit and some chaff in your capital then march them off to the frontline as reinforcements. Also, every battle matters because auto replenishment is not a thing. Of course, the AI breaks with this system because they just spam hundreds of armies without generals that can consist from anywhere between 2 to 20 random units in it. Makes things annoying in the end game.

3k really was blueballing, never got to the actual three kingdoms era in the dlc timeline and then when everyone was expecting a reveal of the Chibi (probably the most important that lead to the three kingdoms a few years later) they just drop the support for the game. Also left so many bugs introduced in the dlc (just look at the unoffical patch on the workshop) EDIT add missing part of sentence

Any game company that thinks it's OK to release a 3rd title of the series with the first two titles being required DLC and refuses to drop those first two titles below release market value is not OK in my book.

The thing i missed the most in MTW2 versus MTW1 is the titles. Provinces had titles and some buildings had titles. They could add to your general, and honoring the general could boost his loyalty. Back then an entire "doom stack" as we call them now could defect and you loose all that time creating them. Making a General the "master of horses" for example could boost the general's loyalty. Also i seem to remember that who you married mattered when it came to diplomacy. Anyways, they were fleshed out games for their ages.

I've returned to Rome recently, purchasing the non-remastered version. It still is amazing and beautiful (in a way), but it definitely did not age well. How camera works is the exact opposite of intuitive, coming back to it from newer Total War games is jarring just because of that. Pathing issues, crashes, glacial pace with which the units walk, all this is rough to get used to after the years of improvements the series had made. Still love it, but I find playing it difficult. Does the remaster make the camera on the battle screen work more like it does nowadays, I wonder?...

@Jose-sl9gh

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Remaster is an 100% improvement. Controls and visuals are such an improvement. It brings a lot of QoL settings and features. After you play it you wont come back to the non-remasterd version lol

@addochandra4745

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jose-sl9gh but maaann those pc requirements T_T ...

yo i'm like 30 seconds in and I just gotta say I'm glad you made the point of doing the dual ratings. That was my immediate concern upon reading the title, since those are two very different situations to judge a game by

I have occasionally enjoyed your videos, but with so many Total War youtubers out there it's difficult to know who to subscribe to. After this video, I am now confident that your your rankings and opinions align 1-to-1 with mine. You have earned my sub, I look forward to binge watching your content when Warhammer 3 comes around! BTW: I'd love to see a video of your most anticipated Warhammer 3 factions once the Slaanesh faction info is released. I'm personally going for Cathay for the first playthrough due to them being a simpler introduction before doing crazier factions like Nurgle or the Ogre Kingdoms, but I'd love to hear your choices too!

I bought ToB recently and I really enjoy it. It´s fun, I love the recruiting system especially. Sure I will not put hundreds of hours into it like into other TW games, because of its small scale and relatively repetitive gameplay, but I don´t mind paying the 10 euros I got it for at all. Certainly worth the discounted price.

Shogun Total War was Amazing when it released, I played it so much I ruined the CDs and had to buy a second game. The CDs would spin while you played the game, funny to think today. What an great game to start off the Total War library!

@Managarm1999

2 жыл бұрын

wow realy? i tried Shogun the first time in 2016 and it was so bad and ugly (in comparison to Rome2, Medieval 2 which i loved) that i only played it for 6 minutes and than never touched it till today. i hated this game so much that i didnt even wanted to try Shogun2 for many years but a few months ago a friend told me to get Shogun 2 and now i think Shogun 2 is a very good Total War game

@414wulfgar

2 жыл бұрын

I remember trying to find the CD for shogun in game, about a year after it came out. Makes me feels so old, but it was such a good game at the time.

@aerrgrey5957

2 жыл бұрын

same

@googleandsusansucks

2 жыл бұрын

@@Managarm1999 2016 was very late for Shogun. It does not hold up apart from the love poured into making it. The soundtrack of course also still holds up.

@Hospeld

2 жыл бұрын

@@Managarm1999 Shogun 2 almost perfect tw game. There are 2 major issues. Most frustrating thing is diplomacy. Any faction without any reason can declair war on you and when you at war with couple factions the whole fckng map declair war on you (even your allies) and brings 2-3 full stacks to you. Very annoying shit. Second issue as Legend says is almost no difference between factions.

Your Rome Total War experience mirrors my Warhammer 2 experience.

@shibre9543

2 жыл бұрын

ahahha

Attila with mods is a joy and a challenge to play, and it has the work-in-progress Medieval 1212 mod that has great promise as a sort of Medieval 2.5.

The Rome 2 rating surprised me, ngl. To this day it is by far my favorite total war game. The 1100 AD mod is amazing. I always felt like the combat was satisfying and everything had its place without anything feeling OP/ broken or useless and everything had a counter. Elephants? Pikes or javelins. Pikemen? Ranged units. Cavalry charges where satisfying and powerful when done right but you couldn't smashing through a braced infantry unit from the front. The economy was simple but effective. Idk man, its still the most fun I've had with a total war game and I play it all the time.

@fabiandonvil

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i've also played rome 2 rigth from launch. pretty suprised he said the building & politics system were garbage. they were the features i enjoyed the most! building was way diversified compared to rome 1 & med 2. politics added much needed depth to your faction. i also feel like balance-wise it was in a right spot. not like attila. whenever i play attila i feel like cav is utterly useless and falls over at the slightest touch of missiles. nothing like it was in rome 2 where cav could actually take out a missile unit without losing it's battle potential. in my opinion it deserves a higher status especially on the 2021 list.

@nostromo9743

2 жыл бұрын

same

Rome 2 has very good modding community, you can easily change fundamental behaviors from the AI or boost them with gold... makes the game very challenging when you start in some obscure province and soon have to face one of the major factions.

I loved the naval combat in Empire, one of my favorite campaigns in non-WH total war games was taking over the world on the back of the mighty Prussian navy!

Thank you very much! Great video!

Love these tiermaker lists.

Bought Shogun back in 2000 and loved it to bits. Best part was the throne room. I love that you could click the wise old retainer for haikus and poems. I'll always remember this one: "The water is a mirror I cannot see the bottom, yet I feel ashamed for the bottom can see me clearly." Deep. And the emissaries... "Buddha's compassion gooo with you." Ah, the memories. :)

@spacewargamer4181

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know you could do that😮

I play medieval total war today, i think its an underrated total war game. I love the atmosphere and the music of that game and the fact that you give titles to your generals

@misterpinkandyellow74

7 ай бұрын

Game crashes for me

Thank you for this video, Legend. I've been curious about your thoughts on these titles (and how you feel about them now) since you did the Top-5 videos back in the day (:

My first total war was Rome 2 and I was addicted to it, I was enjoying every single thing, even I was losing the battle I was still immersed and love the close ups with the camera. I was surprised rome 2 was bad for everyone, I guess previous total wars set the bar too high on Rome 2

I agree about FOTS, I get the feeling it's a little unappreciated but I always really liked it and added much needed diversity and excitement to Shogun 2. The best way to make an alternate campaign expansion. Compare to say Rome Alexander which I think was a lot weaker and nowhere near as replayable as the original or Barbarian Invasion.

@timothypeterson4781

2 жыл бұрын

"Hold the line levy, the clan will remember your names." *Naval bombardment.*

I remember buying Shogun it was amazing, I was still finding new features when I gave up to move to newer total war games.

@CallioNyx

2 жыл бұрын

The little video clips with agent actions were terribly funny. :)

@Chris-ty7fw

2 жыл бұрын

@@CallioNyx Yeah they were, I guess with the amount of variety in Total Warhammer in terms of races and agents that wouldn't be possible anymore but they were great.

I had a forgettable experience with Napoleon and Empire but Shogun 2 is that game I still think about from time to time, and I launch a campaign once a year. I bought an entire new pc to play it in 2011. Which is funny, because I knew almost nothing about old Japan and was in love with 17-19th Europe. And I'm always surprised for how long I stick to these nostalgia campaigns. It's the TW game that hooked me to the series, I played a Rome 2 macedonian campaign after that when I was in a very remote place with not much to do, but basically I jumped straight from Shogun 2 to WH2, after discovering your channel. I've been one of those guys who watch your streams without owning the game, for quite a while. You're now hyping me to play Fall of the Samurai. I got it on steam sales once and never touched it x)

Saying empire is bad because the battles are slow is such a bullshit comment. Its a completely different form of battle due to the time period which yes some people wont enjoy as much as the more melee focused time periods but for meny people geting that perfect volley off with line infintry that leads to mass retreat because you took the time to organise your infantry formation properly is just if not more rewarding then charging in swords swinging.

I loved the original medieval total war so much. And the music was so good. 😁 I had a soft spot for trying to save the byzantine empire lol

The top ten series has now finished its metamorphosis into tier list ❤️ Edit : I had to always edit the game files or use mods to fix the horrible campaign stutter on the steam version of rome tw as well

@fallenhero4550

2 жыл бұрын

Strange I never had any issues even to this day as weirdly prefer it over the remaster.

20:45 man this bit had me cracking up, love your dry humor

I appreciate and respect the fact that you made 2 separate lists for when they came out and how they hold up today....Cuz even still today ppl worship the OG Rome Total War like its a holy script and even if I love it to death ill admit there it can't hold up to some of the newer games in the series

Rome 1 is the pinnacle in a a lot of ways. They've never caught up to the impact or hype they had then for a historic title.

I played Empire just the other day and it is more of a C tier game now. The game still has the bug where it tanks your frame rates if part of a unit gets trapped on the walls but other than that its not that buggy any more.

Had no idea this is something I needed for my day but glad I got it 😅

Also happy to see Shogun 2 in A tier for current year. I got into Total War just last year because I apparently already owned Shogun 2 on steam and figured I'd give it a shot. Sengoku era Japan definitely helped get more interest out of me but it was a great first place to start before getting into Warhammer 2 afterwards.

Warhammer 2 is something that I dreamt about since Medieval 2. "Man, imagine if they made such game but in world of the Lord of the Rings. I would play it all my life". Well, it's not LOTR, but still close enough for me to play it for years.

@icoivo5529

2 жыл бұрын

Try playing Battle for Middle earth Reforged, once it comes out. It is free and looks amazing

@naus9067

2 жыл бұрын

@@icoivo5529 I know man, I am waiting for it for years too. And for Kingdoms of Arda for Mount and Blade Bannerlord. All my life I am waiting.:(

@w.c.wigginton9030

2 жыл бұрын

have you not played the LOTR conversion mod for total war medieval 2? Its really good man.

Despite me not liking/playing 3K I do think it probably deserves A-tier, I was glad to see Legend thought so too. I really enjoyed the atmosphere of the game, it was for me also a fresh setting for me to explore. And the diplomacy overhaul alone was enough for me to consider it a top tier Total War. But sadly playing battles feels shit. Not necessarily the animations or the AI, but I don't like the 3 sub-commander idea. If it weren't for that I would probably put it as S-tier.

Medieval really added to the series by changing the battles to have far more siege mechanics :) The actual assaults on castles and importance of cavalry changed things up to really lead the way for Rome 1! I also have to note that what made Shogun 2 ground breaking was the co-op multiplayer, straight up. It WORKED very well (And imo, not as well since) Doing a 2 player Legendary campaign was fantastic! Fall of the Samurai made it so much better especially being stand alone with really good ship combat (for Fall). Rome 2 came out shortly after and really changed the series in a direction that never captured that Shogun 2 polish since Warhammer (1&2) and Three Kingdoms. Your list is spot on though and the final tally is same as mine in the end lol I Really can't wait for Warhammer 3...!!

the master of the tier lists!

WE NEED MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ironically Rome 2 was the first i ever played a few years after it launched and I loved it. It was one of my first "grand- strategy" games I ever played. and it got me into the the rest of them. I actually enjoy that one much more then I liked Atillia.

@MT-jt5uo

Жыл бұрын

I didn't get Rome 2 till it was updated completely and loved it I played the hell out of it. With DEI I loved it even more.

Your review of empire is literally my experience word for word

Man, I love Empire so much. It certainly has issues but it's ambitious and quite expansive. The AI suffers a bit but it introduced some cool empire management that feels more streamlined.

TW3K... From our perspective which we often get to experience a lot of other 3K games around here, at launch it was pretty a S tier game. The game was fresh, gave me hypes. (Since other 3K games have terrible in game battles) But now since it was abandoned and the issues are not fixed, it's basically kind of trash. Lot of fans here are really disappointed with the CA's decision about abandoning it.

@user-xv1jr8gy3c

2 жыл бұрын

And the dlcs were total garbage in my opinion.

@BloodyArchangelus

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-xv1jr8gy3c you are lol. Best dls in therms of mechanics.

@user-xv1jr8gy3c

2 жыл бұрын

@@BloodyArchangelus yeah. keep playing a lot then

@BloodyArchangelus

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-xv1jr8gy3c played. I respect your opinion, but they were better than warhammer once in general.

@bigmike6462

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was the first total war game I bought at launch and it introduced so much new stuff but now it has stagnated in my eyes. Its still a good game but the dlc was just bad.

I do agree that on launch Empire was a complete mess. However they were able to fix a lot of the bugs over time and by the launch of Napolean I really came to enjoy Empire.

I remember selling the Original Shogun at Software Today in the late 90's early 2000s. Remember, a Pentium 3, 500Mhz was cutting edge technology with a 16MB videocard. Going from things like command and conquer to have literally thousands of troops on the battlefield at once was totally revolutionary. I still have my old copy with the box lol - and paid $99AUD for it too!