Number one bowler has played only 18 tests !!! Can't get more hilarious.

@stupendous1068

Жыл бұрын

Should have been a minimum of 20 tests I reckon.

@sanjaydamle6194

Жыл бұрын

He would have crossed 600 marks, had he played 100 tests.

@johnnorth9514

6 ай бұрын

No, 21@@stupendous1068

@sandydennylives1392

6 ай бұрын

His figures don't lie. Not many test matches in that era.

@neilgovender7450

Ай бұрын

Remember these English bowlers played on uncovered pitches

What's the criteria?

Some test stats. Dennis Lillee 355 wickets at 2.99, Curtly Ambrose 405 wickets at 2.31, Malcolm Marshall 376 wickets at 2.68, Wasim Akram 414 wickets at 2.59, Richard Hadlee 431 wickets at 2.78, Kapil Dev 434 wickets at 2.78, Glen Mcgrath 563 wickets at 2.5. These were the best. Just because they all played over 70 tests and in different countrys and had economy below 3.

@mtnstrand2819

7 ай бұрын

Compare the wickets taken, the strike rate and average, and you'll see that Dale Steyn was by quite a distance better than Kapil Dev.

@user-ts8kz5uw1b

7 ай бұрын

the best fast bowlers to me are Ambrose Marshall Wasim

@malidan1196

7 ай бұрын

Malcolm Marshall has the best stats because he nearly always bowled with great bowlers making it harder to get a good tally. If memory serves me he also bowled way less overs than the rest with a better strike rate. You also have to respect Kepil Dev, he had to bowl a serious amount of overs on pretty placid wickets. I don't have the same respect for Akram and Younis after the ball tampering scandal.

@malidan1196

7 ай бұрын

@mtnstrand2819 Dale Steyn took a stack of wickets against mediocre sides like Zimbabwe Bangladesh The 2000's Inflated many a players records, If these guys played against the 70- 80's windies teams we would have seen the lowest scores ever recorded.

@gopalchatur2303

14 күн бұрын

​@malidan1196 yes Kapil Dev should be among top 20

Can you imagine a man played 18 tests making the greatest list? It's a travesty

@sandydennylives1392

6 ай бұрын

You had to take long ardous sea voyages to play Aus India or Jamaica

Should be a list of best fast bowler who took 300+ wickets ! That would be easy to compare.

Andy Roberts and Jeff Thompson need to be in. And 40 test cutoff should be applied. Impact should be important as statistics hence my case for Thompson - he brought shock and fear. Any attack needs that element. In those mid 70's series other bowlers had better statistics but opposing players tell that the Thomo factor was huge.

@robertcameron3709

Жыл бұрын

40 tests minimum. OK, well that gets rid of virtually every bowler and batsman who played before the second World War. So no Bradman or Hobbs, no Bill O'Reilly or Clarrie Grimmett, no S.F. Barnes or Victor Trumper. And, most importantly, no W.G.Grace the greatest cricketer who ever lived and the man who created modern batting. Without these men the modern game would not exist in its current form.

@baantalingngam

Жыл бұрын

@@robertcameron3709 Bradman played 52 tests.

@robertcameron3709

Жыл бұрын

@@baantalingngam I stand corrected. Mind you, he played a few series after WW2, but my general point still stands.

@mkeysou812

Жыл бұрын

Thommo has become somewhat overrated as the years go by and his legend grows. He could bowl a load of real old tripe at times, and was very inconsistent. Terrifying on his day to be sure, but not in the top 20 in my book

@baantalingngam

Жыл бұрын

Thommo was definitely not considered "overrated" by those who had the misfortune to face him in the mid to late 70s. Interestingly in the WSC fastest bowler in the world competition in Perth in 1978, Thommo not only was fastest (Michael Holding and Imran Khan were 2nd and 3rd respectively), but also "most accurate", i.e. he hit the stumps the most times. Thommo took 200 wickets in 51 tests, an average of basically 4 per test, hardly that of a less than great bowler.

Ambrose #1- Never hit for a six. Played against all the great batsmen of his time.

@shivashankark2764

Жыл бұрын

In a ODI in sharjah, Salim Malik hit ambrose for a six.

@Nazeem_6621

Жыл бұрын

Lol, you're so wrong.

@tenzinglama7650

Жыл бұрын

Inzamam hit him for a six and that too in West Indies.

@murtazadurrani76

Ай бұрын

​@@shivashankark2764not only salim malik saeed Anwar in 1997 at sharjah wasim Akram imran inzamam basit ali vinod kambli and many other

Suggestion: narrow this list down to the last 35 years like you did with the test batsman Another suggestion: Let's see a list of the greatest test bowling partnerships. Eg Walsh and Ambrose, Donald and Pollock, Akram and Younis. That should make for really interesting stats. One more suggestion: Compare the fast bowlers who has the best test record on the sub-continent

You cannot leave out Anderson from MCC CURTLY Ambrose should be placed higher as well as Dennis Lillee.

@stupendous1068

Жыл бұрын

Ambrose was placed higher than Lillee.

not seen them all but hadlee and waquar for me

A list of the best stats wise isn't always a list of the greatest. I've watched test cricket since the 70's and Lillee and Thommo would always be my opening combo. They scared the proverbial out of batsmen. Curtly and Garner would be next change. Shoaib Ahktar and Brett Lee would be in my top 20 too. Thanks for posting, very interesting. I think the cut off for players lists should be when teams went from steamboat travel to flying by planes - in the plane era players play more games, are generally fitter and more professional.

@gobindakumarchakraborty4163

Жыл бұрын

1.W.Akram 2.D.Lilly 3.R.Hadlee 4.A.Roberts 5 M Holding 6 M. Marshall 7.C.Ambrose 8G.Macgrah,,9 A.Donald10.J.Anderson11.Imran Khan12.W Yunus 13. K.Dev14.F.Truman

@rohitpratap4174

Жыл бұрын

Lillee and Thommo were frightening in Australia over a short period. Just as Mitchell Johnson was. I would rate greatness for longevity and ability in non Asian and Asian conditions higher ie versatility of skills. For me Marshall, Steyn, McGrath, Hadlee the greatest. Without relying purely on stats and looking at the prevailing playing conditions of the day, I think it is reasonable to include Lohmann and Barnes right at the top of this list.

@malidan1196

7 ай бұрын

​@gobindakumarchakraborty4163 No way js Akram the best.😂😂😂

@malidan1196

7 ай бұрын

There are alot of bowlers at the top that filled their boots against the minnow, something the bowlers from the 90 backward didn't do. What's Pollock in the top 20, he would even be in my top 40. Roberts Croft Willis Botham Kepil Dev Lawson Gough Anderson Braod Daniels Clarke Aktar Lee Hall Mcdermott Steyn Bond Etc. All faster and more feared.

@malidan1196

7 ай бұрын

This is a joke No.1 and two only every played against Australia bowling side arm at 30 mph.😂😂

No Shoeb Akhtar, no Andy Roberts, no Wesley Hall, no Charlie Griffiths.....??? How they can be missed..??

@iftikhar8malick

Жыл бұрын

U r rt ,third class rating

@clayton896

Жыл бұрын

Akhtar was a great bowler but he can't be considered a top 20 bowler. First, his avg is not as good as any bowler. Second, he only played 45 tests in a modern era. Longevity and consistency go against him.

@exchangedspider

Жыл бұрын

@@clayton896 yeah then proceeds to have players with 17 tests in the list! lmao so you may need to watch the video again if you want to talk about longevity.

@andrewsimoes1425

6 ай бұрын

Charlie Griffith wasn't that good. In fact he threw the ball often. Hall and Roberts, a case can be made. Shoaib, no chance.

@gulahmad9140

6 ай бұрын

no bret lee

Wisden listed Dennis Lillee as the 6th greatest player of the 20th century. The Australian Cricket Board picked Lillee, Lindwall and Miller as its three fast bowlers in its team of the century. Richie Benaud listed Sid (S,F,) Barnes in his all time team.

Hard to compare old and new players pitches so different the whole game is so different,

No Courtney Walsh ? He has taken more than 550 wickets in test cricket.

Malcom Marshal is best Above 300 wickets best avg as well as Excellant strike rate

@khalidnaseem1846

Жыл бұрын

The West Indies had Roberts, Holding, Croft, Garner and Marshall in the 80's. They were so good that Marshall had to wait till Roberts retired to get into the team as a full fledged member ! How many have you included ? Statistics do not really prove a bowler's worth ! Have you heard of the "Adelaide Express " Rodney Hogg - the demon fast bowler ?

@richardmcgrath9729

Жыл бұрын

​@@khalidnaseem1846 Yeah Hogg was a very fast aggressive bowler but also a shit human being...google the anti-islamic sign he painted on his roof after either 9/11 or the Bali Bombings...I forget which one...he also made a fool of himself by disrespecting our Richard Hadlee by not wearing a helmet in an ODI in Aussie when Paddles went off his short run... poor Rodney had blood all through his blonde curls and on his canary yellow shirt after getting his ear squashed! 🤣🇳🇿

@stupendous1068

Жыл бұрын

Of all the guys on this list, I would have predicted Marshall to be the GOAT.

@donaldweir2403

Жыл бұрын

@@stupendous1068 I agree!! My own dream team openers? Malcolm Marshall (with the wind), Dennis Lillie (into the wind), Wasim Akram (first change). Just an opinion 🤔

@andeglenderson5240

Жыл бұрын

Growing up in the 80's adoring cricket Marshall was the most feared, Khan the most inspirational and Hadlee the most consummate. Perhaps Marshall played one season too many as he either lost that searing pace or batters became better handling it. Ambrose is still my fav of all the West Indians

When your career lasts 10 yrs due to sailing half way around the world to play or you stay at home waiting for the home series, play 3 6 test series and on uncovered wickets against non professional croketers, astonishing statistics like the last 2 do not do justice to the their standing as 1 and 2, so statistics aren't the be all, I can't believe Jimmy Anderson ist near the top.

This list is incomplete without mentioning name of the West Indies Legend Sir Wesley Winfield Hall.

Many are missing! What about Wes Hall and Andy Roberts of West Indies Jeff Thompson of Australia?

Fanstic List...Could not understand the criteria of this list!!! I feel these players should have also been considered..Andy Roberts, Patrick Patterson, Courtney Walsh, Jeff Thompson, Craig Mcdermott, Brett Lee, Shoib Aktar, Dani Morrison, Shane Bond, Kapil dev, Ian Botham, James Anderson, Stuart Broad 😄

Anderson, Kapil Dev, Courtney Walsh, Stuard broad, Chaminda vaas,

@JaseC80

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Interesting list and would say it’s a ‘personal top 20’. There are so many bowlers not on that list who statistically are top 20 of all time.

Richard hadley

@flamingfrancis

Жыл бұрын

Did you nod off #4

@stupendous1068

Жыл бұрын

Hadlee.

Just based on strike rate. Fair enough, if you base it on other criteria then a different list.

No place for a bowler who took 434 wickets for India!! Kapildev? Because the author does not consider India as a cricket playing nation!! To include Shaun Pollack but not Kapildev, what a Joke? Must be an Englishman who selected this list. To consider George Lohman and Spofforth in the list when only two countries were playing!! There are no credentials to list great fast bowlers.

@sayandey5348

Жыл бұрын

Kapildev wasn't a fast bowler he was a medium pace bowler....learn properly before comment ok friend. ..

@emano1565

Жыл бұрын

@@sayandey5348 So are others; E.g. Pollock, Fred Spofforth, George Lohmann

@djangorheinhardt

Жыл бұрын

No, I do not agree.I think Kapil Dev was a genuine "fast " bowler .He also opened the bowling several times !

@emano1565

Жыл бұрын

@@djangorheinhardt He was mostly a fast-medium pace bowler. According to Gavaskar he was genuinely quick in the early part of his career. During the last 2-3 years of his career, he slowed down and was a medium pace bowler.

@LOMASH29

Жыл бұрын

@@sayandey5348 Abe gadha...wasim Akra fast thaa?

My all time favorite waqar younis toe crusher England batsman use to steal shoes against him I love it his bowling action and consistently attack to stumps

Could you explain how you have ranked them?

That is without doubt the worst list I have ever seen. The amount of omissions is incredible. Willis, Thompson, Roberts, Trueman, Larwood even. Was this compiled with the aid of a dart board?

@rameshshankar1010

Жыл бұрын

All those bowlers should ve been included

@andrewsimoes1425

6 ай бұрын

Trueman is in there. It's not such a bad list.

Larwood, Miller, Lindwall, Statham, Tyson, Thomson !!!

What about Jeff Thomson Shoaib Akhtar and Brett Lee ?

@clayton896

Жыл бұрын

The list is the best. Not the fastest

most wicket test wickets by a fast bowler, Mr.James Anderson not in this list 🤣

I think any bowler with average of more than 25-26 during his peak year or most of the career, can not be a great bowler. Mor over, there is no great fast bowler before WW 2 because level of competition was not great.

Putting a stone age bowler who played 18 test as No 1 is faulty. No larwood,kapil dev,Andy roberts , jeff thomson . Food for thought

So many greats. Bond, Willis, Lee, Walsh, Tyson...endless list

What's "great" about playing 15 tests?

@vasantalkieschannel

Жыл бұрын

In those days, the number of matches played was very very less per year

@williamalexander9485

Жыл бұрын

@@vasantalkieschannel Agreed that’s why they don’t qualify.

@vasantalkieschannel

Жыл бұрын

@@williamalexander9485 here the quality should not be ignored. It should be considered. Because none of the players were that good like them right. That means they were exceptional. It should be considered. For me bowling avg is the highest consideration

@williamalexander9485

Жыл бұрын

@@vasantalkieschannel Beating bad competition is not a prerequisite to being on a greatest list. A Player with 18 test matches should be disqualified from being compared to 1 with 98. That’s less than 4 full test series. Probably against 1 county. Totally Absurd

@vasantalkieschannel

Жыл бұрын

@@williamalexander9485 so that means bradman is not greatest? He only played below 40 test matches. It's absurd to ignore an era just because they played less matches. It's not that they played less matches because they had injuries. It's just that number of matches played in those days were very less that's why. Also if you are taking a list of greatest players, it should be across all eras.

Interesting list started watching test cricket in the 60s till now so am biased to this period, have only heard about a few of the early bowlers enjoyed video.

I don't give a shit about anybody before World War 1. The top four have to be (not in any order, but I am a Kiwi): Hadlee, Marshall, Lillee, Trueman. Wasim next as the greatest leftie and I've always loved Holding . And, I guess, McGrath. Marshall's strike rate was phenomenal and Hadlee's five-wicket hauls just unbelievable.

Yea by that reckoning you could even have the likes of Ryan Harris and Shane Bond in there, neither of whom should be in a list of the 20 greatest fast bowlers of all time to be fair. They both had the quality and therefore the potential I guess, but the point is they didn't have anything like the level of achievement that I believe should be required for such a list. Longevity and consistency of selection need to be big factors really. There are some notable deserving absences from your list. Andy Roberts probably comes to mind first. Also there is Kagiso Rabada, Courtney Walsh, Keith Millar, James Anderson, Kapil Dev, Bob Willis, Ian Botham, Brett Lee even though some of them were allrounders or had higher test averages, but the impact they made, especially for large periods of their careers, or in ODI cricket in addition to their test achievements, and where they had to take their wickets, - talking about Botham, Dev and Lee in particular. I know some experts question the fact sometimes, but there is no doubt in my mind that those 3 we're all great bowlers in their own different ways in my opinion. Also there are 2 newer up and comers who will both demand a place on a list in time, and already are, in Pat Cummins and Jasprit Bumra.

@crickstats

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your valuable ideas

minimum bench mark should be 20 to 25 tests.

Kapil Dev The second man who broke into the 430 + wickets bracket and who scored 5000 test runs too , finds no place in the list makes it look totally funny. Leave apart the omission of greats like Brett Lee, Andy Roberts , Walsh , Geff Thompson, Ian Botham, Sir Bob Willis..and much more..😏 🇮🇳

Kapil Dev a legend. We support him, we don't care about other non indian players. Jai Hind

@spdharan

Жыл бұрын

You are not a cricket lover then.

@narayanshastri7418

Жыл бұрын

That is not cricket.

Sir Richard *Hadlee* with da *bad ass* stats! Played 86 431 wkts 22.29 avg 36 - Fifa's 9 - 10 wkt bags Best Bowling 9 - 52 vs Aussie 🇦🇺 in Aussie. All bowled with *class n precision* no need too intimidate, absolute *LEGEND!*

@malidan1196

7 ай бұрын

On Green wickets, but yes he was a good bowler.

@chihazit

6 ай бұрын

​@@malidan1196 he took 31 wickets in 6 tests in India. Not so bad was it??

@malidan1196

6 ай бұрын

@chihazit Not bad at all , it also shows how weak the attack he bowled in he fit through a lot of overs. kepil also took a stack of wickets because he had very little back up, but as I said he was a very good bowler. I actually saw him bowl every year in England for Nottinghamshire.

@MeanAzz_13

6 ай бұрын

​@@malidan1196 Richard Hadlee 🇳🇿 Kapil Dev 🇮🇳 Imran Khan 🇵🇰 Ian Botham 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 4 of the *Greatest All Rounders* in the 80's and of All Time.

@malidan1196

6 ай бұрын

@MeanAzz_13 Clive Rice Franklyn Stephenson Are also two top all-rounder who never had the chance to play at test level

B.S.Chandra Shekhar Great Leg Spin Bowler all the time

Richard Hadllee , Dennis Lillee, Kapil Dev , Curtley Ambrose, Micheal Holding, Jeff Thompson , Wasim Akram, Joel Garner, Andy Roberts, Glenn McGrath, Imran Kahn, Malcolm Marshall, Fred Truman .

@subwaymirdif

Жыл бұрын

I think they didn't consider Kapil because he was a medium pacer.

@syedhussain55

Жыл бұрын

List without Kapil. If fast bowling is criteria then where is Shoaib Akhter.

"Crickstats"--you've opened a can of worms

Walsh and Kapil dev must be in such a list

After world war best fast bowlers. Not in order of being the best. Roberts Holding Croft Garner Marshall Ambrose. Lillee Thomson Magrath. Allan donald Stein. Hadlee Imran khan Wasim akram Waqar younis Shoaib akhter.

This list not good enough. Kapil dev was a world record holder for many years and picked more wickets than most bowlers in this list. Even Dennis lillee ranked him above imran Marshall Hadley and botham The great thing about him was that he used to bowl without any support from other side. Batsmen did not play under pressure when playing against kapil. Most of the bowlers in this list had equally good bowlers supporting from other end to keep incessant pressure on batsmen

@paulgoodman7975

Жыл бұрын

I would like to add Jeff Thompson and Andy Robert's to the list. I would not add Courtney Walsh he was a hardworking plodder but not a great

Kapil, Anderson, Broad, Shoaib, Roberts, Thompson, Croft, Walsh, Griffith, Gilchrist, Wakar, Larwood, Chaminda were all Great bowlers, who can be included in this video, which can be edited with a Title, Top 40 Fast Bowlers of All-time....

@venkataramank.s2122

Жыл бұрын

Brian Sthatham,Alec Bedser,Proctor, Peter Pollock are some more names .

@Hssridharan

Жыл бұрын

Gilchrist? Or Gillespie

@ShashikantShanbhag

Жыл бұрын

@@Hssridharan when we were babies almost 70 years ago, Hall and Gilchrist came to India from Windies team....The West Zone batsman, after the first ball from Gilchrist, came running to pavilion refusing to Play further, he did not know what happened....he replied, Jan salamat to Matches pachas.....My life is precious than playing nasty bowling...HaHaHa

@kantilalparekh8062

Жыл бұрын

Wesly Hall... West Indies...? Ramakant Desai... India...?

@stupendous1068

Жыл бұрын

Gilchrist was a keeper. He was never going to make this list.

again it is only someone else's thoughts, we could all pick a list and be very different as we all rate players differently, example is pre covered pitches, and recently DRS taking away from umpire error, it opens up a topic for discussion not debate.

Do you remember what CMJ wrote when he did his book 'the greatest 100 cricketers of all time? Something to the effect that he knew thousands would disagree,he had many regrets that many immortals had to be left out,but the important thing is that it gets people discussing the list .This is certainly qhat you have achieved.

This is a really interesting list and it gives hard facts that cannot be ignored. My only query is that it refers a lot to times when the game was very different. I think a cut-off at 1914 would make sense. It also depends on how you define a fast bowler. Anderson should be in there surely? Terrific posting nevertheless and thank you very much for doing it. Really interesting.

@crickstats

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your ideas

@keithcampbell6806

Жыл бұрын

A fast bowler should be at 90 mph and above. English is a very hard language even for some which is their first language.

Great list!! Without purely relying on stats which change era to era, I think it is very reasonable to include Lohmann and Barnes right at the top of this list. I'm glad the likes of Marshall, Steyn, Imran and McGrath are rated higher than Lillee and Thomson for the sheer versatility of skills across conditions, frightening though the latter were in the early to mid 70s Australian conditions

@crickstats

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

@Kinshukgoldenoldies

Жыл бұрын

Notable ommissions - Wes Hall, Charlie Griffith, Andy Roberts, & our very own Kapil Dev

@rohitpratap4174

Жыл бұрын

@@Kinshukgoldenoldies I'd agree with Andy Roberts, the fast bowling professor making the top 20

I don't know how one can imagine greatest bowlers when there is no warn and no murali

Andy Roberts, Jeff Thompson, Wayne Daniel, Colin Croft. Not a just list.

According to Lara, Wasim Akram is the best fast bowler all time by far....

Based on what statistic? Fastest was Frank Tyson Most dangerous was Jeff Thompson Funniest was Bob Willis

@derekallan1341

Жыл бұрын

Tyson was great but not close to being the fastest, sorry. There are Aussies and Pakistani bowlers faster plus a few others

@donaldweir2403

Жыл бұрын

Frank Tyson! Often overlooked when 'fastest ever bowler' topic comes up. And the second fastest in the '50s (???), the occasional ball by Keith Miller. Bradman reckoned the four fastest - in no order except first test played - were Larwood, Tyson, Thomson, Holding.

Best list.

Thanks for the memories.

Greatest fast bowler of all time Micheal holding Joel garner Curtly ambrose Wasim akram Glenn mc grath that’s all time great one more add Dennis lilee

Waqar younas is the best bollar in the world ❤

Kapil Dev is anytime better than others to be included in Top 15

Most Wl bowlers averaging below 21. Cut off should be minimum 50 tests.

Would you rather pad up to face Barnes, Lohmann or Marshall?

Now try greatest 20 batsmen of all times... Indians will dominate the list.

" The best " is always controversial This doesn't take into consideration the different era's , non covered wickets, professionalism and there should be a certain amount of test

My list based on average, strike rate, opponent, role in wins, logivity, terror on batsmen, variety, speed, ability to use new ball and abilty to reverse swing,. Marshal, Headley, Lillee, Imran, Amrose, Styen, Akram, MacGrah, Holding, GARNER, Truman, Alan Davidson, Waqar, Andy Roberts, Ray Lindwal, Bishop, Walsh, Croft, Rabada, Keith Miller, Pollock, NONE OF THEM AVERAGES ABOVE 25.

Cheaters Waqar and Wasim ahead of Joel and Michael, not acceptable.

Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad, Brett Lee, Shoab Aktar, Jeff Thompson, Frank Tyson, Harold Larwood and a dozen more. Who compiled this ridiculous list?

It's still a pretty good list to be fair and you certainly have most of the most important and best names on there for sure. It's good to do lists of the very greatest as you have done, but I personally, as a cricket tragic and total nerd, like to make lists of what I guess you could call the minor greats. Bowlers who have achieved world class performance over a long period without quite having the impact of those very greatest. It's a long list but it's still a cool look at wonderful bowlers, who have admittedly had their ups and downs, but hey that's cricket for you. The great leveller. My list of them, who I haven't mentioned as yet in my previous comments includes Brian Statham, Sturat Broad, Darren Gough, Andrew Caddick, Andrew Flintoff, Matthew Hoggard, John Snow, Chaminda Vaas, Javagal Srinath, Ishant Sharma, Mohammed Shami, Wesley Hall, Charlie Griffiths, Kemar Roach, Shaoib Akhtar, Mohammed Asif, Lasith Malinga, Fazal Mahmood, Morne Morkel, Jaques Kallis, Vernon Philander, Jeff Thomson, Craig McDermott, Bruce Reid, Merv Hughes, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Johnson, Heath Streak, Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazelwood, Colin Croft, Ian Bishop, Jason Gillespie, Terry Alderman, Chris Cairns, Neil Wagner, Trent Boult, Tim Southee, Graham Dilley, Graham McKenzie, Jack Cowie, Peter Pollock, Mike Procter, Clive Rice, Garth Let Roux, Vince Van der Bijl. Some of them South Africans who didn't get to play much (if any) test cricket but who would've be superb test bowlers had they done. Some other names who achieved less but we're a bit unlucky statistically given how good they really were include Umar Gul, Danny Morrison, Angus Fraser, Geoff Lawson, Richard Collinge, Chris Martin, Wayne Daniel, Winston Davis, Sylvester Clarke, Umesh Yadav. I know, the list could go on, but they're all wonderful bowlers. Some of the current crop are seriously good as well, such as Hasan Ali, Mohammed Abbas, Shaheen Afridi, Jason Holder, Jayden Seals, Kyle Jameson, Matt Henry, Jofra Archer, Ben Stokes, Lungi Ngidi, Anrich Nortge, Mustifaza Rahman, etc, and many more yound talents coming out of India, Pakistan, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, England and the West Indies. Even Sri Kanka, not noted for producing great pace bowlers, look like they could be producing a couple of pretty exciting ones too.

@crickstats

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your valuable ideas

@balajipandurangi4740

Жыл бұрын

Sir also add Our great Kapildev

@cz2604

Жыл бұрын

Simon Jones if you have some of the others.

@kennethcrowther2277

Жыл бұрын

@@cz2604 sure

@kennethcrowther2277

Жыл бұрын

@@balajipandurangi4740 oh did I not? Of course Kapil is way wat up that list.

Some greats such as Sarfaraz Nawaz who introduced reverse swing to the cricket and Kapil are not included because they were not genuine fast bowlers rather medium Pacers.

Very good presentation. The flow of information timing is fantastic. All legends. But many more are missing.

For me , Wasim Akram is No. 1

CURTLY AMBROSE, one of the MOST ACCURATE & Most In cutter BOWLER. BATSMEN were fearful to face AMBROSE. RAFI MAINE USA

This list has the names that I haven't heard ever. No.1 guy played 18 matches in 1800s.

What a load of rubbish. I stopped at Lillee at 17. The person who did this has NFI

Jeff Thomson, Jimmy Anderson, Andy Roberts all big misses.

@djangorheinhardt

Жыл бұрын

And Brian Statham ,Frank Tyson,Bob Willis and a few more !Thommo should definitely be in ,and Andy Roberts !

@stupendous1068

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Graham McKenzie was another one I would have considered.

@djangorheinhardt

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@@stupendous1068 Yes Garth McKenzie was a bit tasty for batsmen He rattled a few dentures in his time.I think he played a season for Leicestershire in 1975 and a newspaper story said he drove his yellow Mercedes back home to Australia across Europe and Asia at the end of the season .He must have been exhausted after that trip !

@stupendous1068

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@@djangorheinhardt Yeah. I have heard that story about him.

Super top 20. The only quibble is that I would have Freddie Trueman and Dennis Lillie in my top five segment. Otherwise, it was excellent.

This is just personal opinion , the arguments could continue for decades , everyone has their own idea of the greatest fast men ,I am almost eighty and have watched many greats during my lifetime but I would not be sure of making such a list , times and conditions change , people also which makes a definitive list almost impossible.

No Jimmy Anderson , no Brian Statham, must be composed by a Yorkshire man!

Put whatever the order you want. But if you say that I have to bet my house on a test game to and I have to pick an eleven. The first 2 fast bowlers I pick would be Wasim and Marshal. You can have everyone else you want. 😂

This list needs to be done by era instead of being open ended. It makes certain comparisons absurd. Can’t compare players from the 1800s to players if the 2000s 🤨They played far fewer games, with different rules etc. Eras would give a more accurate analysis

Should be consist of last 40 years because game has lot changed since then, swing art spread all over the test plying nations. There are lot other bowlers like Jimmy Anderson, Kapil Dev, Chaminda Vas, Shoaib Akhtar, Asif !

While you got some great names in the list you missed some like Stuart Broad Jim Anderson Jeff Thompson Brett Lee etc. List worth revising.

Please consider the competition when your make a list like this.

Everyone couldn't be on this listed, so if your favourite bowlers are not on it doesn't mean they are not considered greats

What criteria has been adopted as great fast bowlers like Jimmy Anderson, Kapil Dev & Shoib Akhter are not included.

Lillee and Joel Garner not even in the top-10 ? Ambrose & McGrath down at 6th & 7th ? Courtney Walsh not included at all ? Even players ranked above the mentioned greats would laugh at whosoever compiled this list.

@graemealexander8804

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Exactly, Dennis Lillee is Australia's greatest ever fast bowler, it's not even close. Include all his missing WSC SuperTests, Vs the mighty West Indies & all World XI matches, Lillee's record is missing 112 wkts from just 22x unofficial Tests. His true record is 92x Tests, 467 wkts @ 23.91, 29x 5wkt, 9x 10wkt hauls. BBI 8/29 Vs 1972 World XI, BBM, 12/89 Vs WSC World XI, 12/92 Vs 1972 World XI. Lillee was the No. 1 wkt taker in WSC SuperTests with 88 wkts, Andy Roberts 2nd with 50. Lillee was equal No. 1 in WSC ODI, taking 54 wkts. In all ODI, Lillee took 157 wkts @ just 18.47. He still holds the fast bowling record for the most wkts in a Calendar Year, 85 wkts in just 13x Tests, achieved against England, West Indies, India & Pakistan. An incredible achievement. Lillee took 167 wkts in just 29x Ashes Tests. In 5 wkt hauls, his 11x places him No. 2 all-time, behind SF Barnes, who has 12x. In 10WM, Lillee's 4x 10WM, places him No. 1 all-time in Ashes Tests. In all World XI matches, DK took an incredible 58 wkts in just 9x World XI Matches. He retired with both the Test & ODI World Records, taking a wkt with his last ball. He's the greatest fast bowler I have seen in my 50 years of watching cricket. A lesser known fact, is DK's 467 wkts, places him No. 8 all-time. But no fast bowler in the top 10, averages 5+ wkts a Test. Considering the quality of those wkts, against West Indies & World XI's, he probably has the greatest record of any fast bowler to have ever played the game. Test & International standard, no minnows.

@AnkitSingh-xl6pt

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@@graemealexander8804 my point isn't just confined to Lillee. He's great not just due to his stats, but to the sheer mastery he pocessed over the craft of pace bowling altogether and it was under his guidance that medium pacers like Glenn McGrath became bonafide match-winners without increasing a single digit of mph in their speed. This list I feel has no set of criterias and has been just stitched together on prefrence. Otherwise, how come Courtney Walsh, the bowler took over 300 wickets in the last decade of his career starting from becoming a new ball lead at the late age of 30, hasn't been included at all. It raises a hell lot of questions. If I were given authority, my list would be as follows:- 1. Malcolm Marshall(he edges over Lillee due to his consistency all over the world, Lillee due to his injury had a hard time in Asia) 2. Dennis Lillee 3. Glenn McGrath 4. Curtly Ambrose 5. Sir Richard Hadlee 6. Sir Sidney Barnes 7. Joel Garner 8. Wasim Akram 9. Alan Davidson 10. Imran Khan 11. Allan Donald 12. Waqar Younis 13. Michael Holding 14. Courtney Walsh 15. Andy Roberts 16. Dale Steyn 17. Shaun Pollock 18. Ray Lindwall 19. Wes Hall 20. Fred Trueman HONOURABLE MENTIONS: Brian Statham, Keith Miller, Fazal Mehmood, Craig McDermott, Kapil Dev, Mike Proctor, Peter Pollock, John Snow, Ian Botham, Graham McKenzie.

Shoaib akhter ,,shan bond ,,lee ,,waqar Younis,, vass great bowler

Ok I'm going to file this away under Joke of the Day, because whoever compiled this list must be a practicing comedian. I'm a Barbadian national who loves cricket but no mention of people like Andy Roberts, Sir Ian Botham, Jeff Thompson, Brett Lee, Courtney Walsh, Kapil Dev, or even Bob Willis give me a break already.....hahahahaha

All the fast bowlers are listed Don't agree with the rankings Dennis lillee one of very few who averaged over 5 wickets per test match Listed so low,

It is difficult to have a number one.They were all great bowlers.The Seventies and Eighties had better batsmen and it was more competitive.Did not see Ian Botham also there as well as Jeff Thompson.Len Pascoe was also very good.And where is Andy Roberts.

Would you consider Kapil Dev better than Andy Roberts? Mike Proctor? James Anderson? Jeff Thomson? In the end it's all rather subjective.

Sydney Barnes & George Lohmann's averages were incredible, but the truth was that there were many bowlers around World War 1 era were giving away very few runs. Can you name one Batsman who has more than 50 runs average when Sydney Barnes & George Lohmann' were playing? Pitches were dreadful and no one was scoring runs, hence bowler's averages looked phenomenal in that era.

Notable omissions Botham, Kapil, Croft

@ronaugustin7520

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Walsh

@stupendous1068

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Anderson, McKenzie, Roberts, Willis.

Chaminda Vaas 111 machs 23438 balls 355 Wickets 2.69 Econ 29.58 Average 12 - 5 Wkts 2 - 10 Wkts But Vaas is not in the list !!! Who create theese kind of jokes ?

I don't think DK Lillee is No.17 he should be in top 10. Rest of the list is reasonable.

Andy roberts was the greatest of all ; he indrodused swing & his action was smooth as butter ;

That is a very difficult decision and will be a much debatable subject if must not come down to number of wickets taken but to effectiveness and the number of test played

Should be a 30 test minimum. Jimmy Anderson and Chris Broad should be there. Glenn McGrath is the greatest for me.

The order and omissions show that statistics are not the full story