man it's so crazy that Woolie thought _____ ability was ___ tier and not ____ tier omg

@ryansqueri1405

2 жыл бұрын

30 minutes he said :)

@FirelMusic

2 жыл бұрын

man it's so crazy that Woolie thought Focused Assault was B tier and not S tier omg

@wasabebo8334

2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Strimmer your opinion is wrong

@harveyboi3917

2 жыл бұрын

Mr Streamer I'll let you know that I am a proud Scrap Launcher main, and have beaten Mithrix plenty of times. SS tier ability thank you very much 🤓

@챙랴노

2 жыл бұрын

ikr

Railgunner's "primary" not hitting void infestors is the most annoying thing in the world. F tier.

@pachurro2762

2 жыл бұрын

I’m prob stupid but if this isn’t a joke I think it does, I’ve used it and it hits them

@0osk

2 жыл бұрын

@@pachurro2762 Not while it's in the air. When they first pop out of the little pods as projectiles, you can shoot the projectile before it hits the ground and kill them. Railgunner's primary doesn't target them during that so you have to ADS.

@oranbluethorn3956

2 жыл бұрын

@@pachurro2762 It does when they first land...if you lead the shot a bit. The tracking can't keep up with them while in mid air usually, without real good angles, and even when their on the floor sometimes the projectiles will hit the floor instead of the enemy because it moves so fast, so ya gotta lead the shot into hitting from the same direction their moving usually

@AttacMage

2 жыл бұрын

@@oranbluethorn3956 I find aiming nearly straight up works very well against them.

@supernova6188

2 жыл бұрын

shoot 'em while they're in the air, right after they come out

um aktually mr strimmer, heretic squak is clearly the best of all tiers, for it is the ultimate in intimidating opponents as well as serenading your ears :)

@CowKirbo

2 жыл бұрын

It's the best ability in the entire game. It literally makes you win the moment you use it

@azelynhirano7737

2 жыл бұрын

Being completely useless and just spamming squawks and ahoys is the best thing in multiplayer

@SupraShade

2 жыл бұрын

@@azelynhirano7737 equip only heretic run????

@hentaiaddict5431

2 жыл бұрын

🤓

@graysonwilson3343

2 жыл бұрын

@@SupraShade firework proc chains and vending machine baby

Correct me if I'm wrong, but void fiend's normal drown attack seems to have a very very slight autoaim. There are times when my crosshair was off of an enemy but the beam hit it any way.

@Woolie

2 жыл бұрын

that is correct!

@bananamanbro6613

2 жыл бұрын

aim assist is for NOOBS

@Bocahj4

2 жыл бұрын

@@bananamanbro6613 noobs are for aim assist

@alexstewart9592

2 жыл бұрын

@@bananamanbro6613 It has auto-aim because the shot itself is very narrow compaired to other primaries - the slight auto aim means that it will actually hit so long as any part of the crosshair is on the target, which is how most primaries work when they don't have shot deviation (also known as bloom, it is the accuracy penalty for continuous fire on some primaries), and also means that Void Fiend can actually HIT the Lesser Wisp on the other side of the map instead of just shootimg the wall next to it from across the map. The corrupted primary doesn't have auto aim, but it has a wider radius, and it simply hits anything that the auto-aim could lock onto that close up anyway.

@El_Bebe

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexstewart9592 Corrupted drown does have autoaim, albeit with such a short range is not quite noticeable.

Dont forget that railgunner's "m1" (the rapid fire auto aim thingy) can reduce fall damage, and with enough attack speed makes her gain verticality. Just something to note

@adrianrg3754

2 жыл бұрын

Mult can also fly with enought as

@yakin_3305

5 ай бұрын

Man I just commented this I should have scrolled a little further before I did it

Honestly my only objection is the complain against the autoaim in Huntress' primaries. Like, their main draw is that you can sprint while using them, and if they didn't have the autoaim you couldn't really use that to your advantage as much, as you couldn't efficiently hit enemies to your sides while running circles around them.

@Brass319

Жыл бұрын

my main objection is railgunner's marksman going below void fiend's primary even though marksman is basically just the exact same thing with an extra 100% base damage, more fire rate, and can crit

@taizai3161

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@Brass319u still need to scope in for that, and void fiend one also slows, and has auto aim a little

@colinheller6701

2 ай бұрын

Them? The huntress won’t be offended if you call her a her.

@fadorka

Ай бұрын

​@@colinheller6701 yeah they are taking about the primary skill not the huntress. Skills don't have genders

@colinheller6701

Ай бұрын

@@fadorka If that's your conclusion, then your reading comprehension is awful.

Neat fact about Merc: If you use either dash about 1/4 into your primary swing, the swing hitbox will be active during the entire dash! On the third primary attack, this applies expose too and, with his alt utility having a little delay before the damage, can allow you to always deal expose dmg with your utility! Makes ranged merc in particular feel way better since the utility itself can now proc tons of expose, meaning your utility can essentially never be on cooldown in optimal situations.

@zanedriskill6294

2 жыл бұрын

This applies to all Merc abilities. If you aren't using it before every eviscerate, you're throwing. It's just free cool down reduction and extra damage.

@myd3b124

2 жыл бұрын

@@zanedriskill6294 it doesn't work with slicing winds

@thvelivan9781

2 жыл бұрын

@@zanedriskill6294 True, true. Though the most satisfying application is with the utility imo.

@trice286

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that the hitbox seems to only be active if you first dash into an enemy near you. Basically, you can expose an entire line of enemies but only if the first enemy you hit is near you. Otherwise, you can't really expose enemies thats far from you. It's extremely powerful with his alt utility because you expose enemies twice in one dash.

@thvelivan9781

2 жыл бұрын

@@trice286 I don't know where you got this idea from, I've been able to do this to single enemies at max range before.

I personally think loaders passive should get a bit of a higher spot due to its complete fall damage negation. Maybe high b tier but thats just me.

@kylemckell

2 жыл бұрын

I think he just forgot about that part since he had been talking for a long time lol. Loader would be ass without that part of the passive, and it's incredible on eclipse.

@Woolie

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylemckell I did indeed forget about it lmfao

@jeluenhayo2410

2 жыл бұрын

You're so right cuz Loader's playstyle revolves around getting to great heights all the time. The character would be garbage and couldnt utilize other abilities if not for this part of the passive.

@oranbluethorn3956

2 жыл бұрын

The scrap armor is just an early game bonus for endless survivability. That fall damage stopping though...M m m that's the good stuff right there. I'd have never gotten even half the run wins I have with her without that passive

@hollyleaf3941

2 жыл бұрын

@@Woolie So where would you rank it now that you remembered it?

I'm no expert to any degree but as a void fiend main, I would feel much more incentivized to use his corrupted R if instead of sacrificing 25% HP for 25% corruption, it simply refills the entire meter at the cost of the same 25% HP if you feel the need to stay corrupted (because let's be real, +25% corruption in the grand scheme of things is completely unnoticeable in his corrupted form)

@masonoreilly7512

2 жыл бұрын

as an alternative it could simply replace his R ability altogether, I was discussing with a buddy the other day and we both agreed Hopoo missed an opportunity with void fiend's kit not utilizing the void's trademark "void explosion" (like the reaver's death blow), not sure how but it would be a neat addition to his loadout.

@Buglin_Burger7878

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, if I remember right if you take 25% of your health in damage that normally just gives you 25% corruption to begin with. So if you want more Corrupt time you... just stand there and let an enemy hit you. The ability does nothing the Void Fiend doesn't already have especially since when you become full corrupted it just sits there taking up space.

@alexstewart9592

2 жыл бұрын

It gets worse. There was a bug that caused it to be affected by some damage amp items, and that made it so much worse. Not only did this cause it to kill you on accident, it still only gave 25% corruption even if it did all the damage, which is especially terrible because taking that much damage from an actual hit would give you more corruption than using it does - and if you have the healing to recover from the damage taken, bad news - doing so is a net loss of corruption.

@maxgoldstein7202

2 жыл бұрын

@@masonoreilly7512 yeah I definitely agree. His corrupted R is not only really situational, but it has limited charges, so you can't even spam it to stay corrupted if you have a ton of healing. Imo it should be a glass cannon type attack that either sacrifices a chunk of health or corruption and has a pretty big cooldown. Maybe a devastator black hole barrage, implosion bomb, or something like that.

@mgiacmierhns8755

2 жыл бұрын

let's be real, it's useful. whenever i finish a map, there's no enemies and i need to traverse the map faster, it's useful. Oooooooor... for killing yourself out of hopelessness in a garbage run. Easy S tier !

Now we need an enemy tier list with blind pests being being so low on the list you have to scroll for 15 minutes to get to them. And gup is S because gup is a good boi.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

blind pests give me depression, gup gives me free bags 💰 hate blind pests so much

@adrianrandom3448

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chuckychargeblade do they still have boss level stats or did they finally tone those mfs down?

@mcawesome9705

Жыл бұрын

blind vermin as well

@rubixclockpog

5 ай бұрын

If you can’t dodge, then just admit it

I just wanted to say, my favorite use for Captains taser is to hold something like an elder lemurian or beetleguard in place so I can get all 3 Orbital shifts off on it. Or just to keep it stunned while I deal with a horde of smaller enemies. It just helps keep big guys off my back.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

yea that’s the intended use. try out hooks of heresy, keeps them locked in place with the added benefit of fucking nuking their health, hitting multiple enemies at once, and getting nuts with backup mags. taser is unfortunately balls

@largeoctahedron

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is it’s pretty easy to hit all three strikes on larger enemies without the taser since they tend to stand still to use their attacks.

Jokes aside, I really feel like hacking beacon is SS tier. Especially now that you can get executive card and hack multishops for 3 items, and even those green multishops. If I see a shrine of chance early game it's two items guaranteed, and there's been times I've hacked and hit shrine 6+ times on level one. So much gold and time saved. For me it's a guaranteed God run every game with captain.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

yea except for after 1st loop you got so much money you don’t rly need to hack. it’s cool and all esp for shorter runs but eventually it ends up becoming essentially useless, if money was not so abundant after looping (or even first loop if you get lots of Gups or a void seed) then I would say S tier but def not SS at all

@KingOfTheDungle

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chuckychargeblade I do agree but the later in a run in general most survivors abilities become useless. In a God run you literally don't need to use any of your abilities. Long story short I think early game(first two loops) are the most important things to determine if you have a good run or bad one. Mainly agree with you though.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingOfTheDungle true, still my point of the over abundance of money still stands, even before you start murdering everything on screen with one click. if hackable loot spawned closer together more often or legendary chests weren’t so rare aside from guaranteed I could see it being S but I rly don’t think hacking is crazy enough on any normal run to be considered that nuts. I do agree that early game is extremely important tho, which is where it shines the best

@jeluenhayo2410

2 жыл бұрын

As Woolie himself always said: items and time matter much more in the run than abilities. And this is the only ability that directly works with those. So I agree 100%

@tabnk2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chuckychargeblade So you can use the hacking beacon during the first loop to jumpstart the run, then swap it with the heretic special once its irrelevant

I love Whirlwind. Had a run where I had something like 12 Backup mags and just became a lawnmower. It's a really satisfying ability.

@thegrunch6448

2 жыл бұрын

Purity makes it pretty wacky fun too. You can just hover aroumd by spamming it constantly

@Seeker_of_Truth_and_Beauty

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegrunch6448 Nothing like being the hot knife through some... "Wisp Butter".

Another reason as to why blight sucks is that applying multiple stacks of blight doesnt refresh the timer for previous stacks unlike with bleed, so eventually even with your 50 backup mags you'll hit a hard limit on how many blights you can stack.

@GAMA830

2 жыл бұрын

i like to change acrids primary attack to his ult by spamming the cooldown shoulders (lunar item) it isnt affected by lower attack speed so you can spam it with blight and stack it up like crazy. it does erase 2 abilities since your attack speed is so slow u cant use primary or secondary, but i think being able to spam ult non stop makes up for it since the ult also procs

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

how’s that even a bad thing, if you’re able to hit that hard limit it’ll be dealing WAY more damage than poison in 99% of cases (barring like mithrix and worship unit)

@moist_scrungus

2 жыл бұрын

@@stripey3860 if youre at the point in youre run where you can hit that hard limit you certainly already have enough damaging items that would dispatch nearly any enemy in the game before you could reach even 20% of that hard limit

@moist_scrungus

2 жыл бұрын

It's just not worth gimping yourself in the early game to do

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@@moist_scrungus are you really claiming blight does worse earlygame? that’s where it does best. blight does its best work without looping

Honestly the bullet spread on Nail gun isn't even an issue. Most of the enemies in this game are large and the small ones are low HP

56:00 , you're right, I've only been playing for a week and I can not just tell them all apart, but an idea of who they belong to. They did a great job with that.

Hooks of heresy is pretty strong damage-wise with pretty decent aoe and it can casted very quickly; I don’t think it should be in the same tier as phase rounds or ravenous bite

@Klausbro

2 жыл бұрын

It’s just hard to use if you aren’t used to it. Numerically it’s great

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

ya hooks is amazing, bite is good as hell too woolie just doesn’t appreciate it lol

@TheAnimeLurk

2 жыл бұрын

I keep hearing people say, "hooks are hard to use". Personally, I always just stack a few mags and just spam it up close to clear large groups of scary enemies. I rarely bother with charging it.

@michaelcoleman2173

2 жыл бұрын

Its nuts if you know how to use them, hooks is S+ teir on captain.

@surytrap

2 жыл бұрын

on engineer with harpoons it becomes insta cooldown because you can just right click-shift-shift-right click

The day Frag grenade sticks or explodes on impacts is the day I will weep and never go back to suppressive fire.

@pitchblendeprotogen

2 жыл бұрын

There's a mod for that

:) also, loader's passive also negates fall damage. considering how much damage she would be taking otherwise thats an easy S

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

yea he mentioned in some other comment he just forgor, shits a free S

I'm surprised you don't consider Seed Barrage S tier. It's what makes REX so damn good.

@MrKippers

2 жыл бұрын

I think the reasoning is looking at the ability by *itself* with no kit synergy. Yes, Seed Barrage is Rex's main source of damage, but you have to depend on other parts of Rex's kit to make it become excellent. If you put Bandit's Backstab on anyone, they would be amazing. Same with Corrupted Drown, Commando/Captain M1, Loader Punches, etc. If you put Seed Barrage on anyone, they likely won't have the healing/sustain to properly use this. In short, yes, Seed Barrage is Rex's best move. It is exceptionally strong in his own kit, but almost everything in S tier is great as a stand alone ability.

@libertyprime9307

2 жыл бұрын

Technically he said at the very start that it's purely for entertainment value and not taken seriously. Which to me oddly sounds like this (isn't?) how he actually ranks them? idk it was a weird disclaimer since why put in this much effort into a non-humorous tier list if it's not serious?

@shirubam602

2 жыл бұрын

@@libertyprime9307 I think it's more so that he's not really thinking about it too hard and he's just going off of the feel of each of them on an average run with each survivor, without getting too much into item synergies or the mathematics of their abilities. Hence why it's not entirely "objective" and shouldn't be taken too seriously, because he's definitely making good arguments for the placement of each ability, but you could also make arguments for the other abilities as well, like strides or some of the other beacons, which comes down to personal playstyle and preference at the end of the day.

@WhiteKnuckleRide512

2 жыл бұрын

@@libertyprime9307 it’s just a “don’t get mad at me” disclaimer lmao

Loaders passive also makes her immune to fall damage, which is pretty good in the context of making her playable (free red item effect)

I'm loving these recent videos a lot, I also hope you do more uncut runs!

Huntress main: Numbers aside, I also hated flurry at first, but there's some nuances to flurry that make me never want to take it off these days. The flurry is guaranteed to come out at the target you highlighted *the moment the animation starts*. This means you can circle strafe while sprinting by jumping and flicking your camera; you don't have to sorta run towards the thing or stop sprinting like with strafe. You can also cancel the draw animation into another ability and the arrows will still come out, so you get a little combo out of it.

Rex's root special allows him to have 2 debuffs in his base kit and it can also keep mithrix completely still with 0 cdr. Edit: artificer fire primary and flamethrower also got a massive nerf because of the fire changes: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqR3o7lvmrDNoag.html

You're a great talker mr. streamer, I have severe difficulties focusing and you held my uninterupted attention for 1 hour and 20 minutes.

Gr8 video my dude! Just got back into the game and is nice to see this

@funnydankmemes880

2 жыл бұрын

U couldn’t have even watched it, the vid came out a minute ago lol

@VestigeFinder

2 жыл бұрын

@@funnydankmemes880 hes a sigma male

@funnydankmemes880

2 жыл бұрын

@VestigeFinder oh u right u right.

:) Man it’s so crazy that Woolie didn’t put squawk at least a tier Probably carries me through most of my runs tbh

@libertyprime9307

2 жыл бұрын

He said the list isn't to be taken seriously.

So this is just me, but I love the Huntress auto aim . I hurt my wrist at one point and auto aim was the way for me to play the game along with turret bois

1:12:40 I think you’re right - Railgunner’s numbers are so ridiculously high as they are that you don’t really feel the crit items changing anything, it’s definitely useful to give you something out of crit but the only time I noticed the amount of damage a lens maker added was when I was unlocking polar field device

@AtomicAlchemist

Жыл бұрын

It makes ocular hud feel really nice on railgunner but for regular lens maker glasses its barely noticable

I don't think trespass deserves to be as low as it is. It's an amazing ability with an insanely long invulnerability time and you can charge flood during it which gives a huge boost to vertical momentum, so much so the void fiend is almost unrivaled in their ability to move up.

@mailcs06

Жыл бұрын

Almost unrivaled, except by Artificer with Ion Surge :]

Me and my friends were watching this video and one of them noticed halfway through the video that this was actually HIS tierlist because his name showed up at the bottom . My friend is the man who created the first risk of rain ability tierlist in existence

@1nkFalcon

2 жыл бұрын

hi tehk

@tehk16

2 жыл бұрын

@@1nkFalcon o hey man how’s it going

Damn just subbed ten minutes ago and you uploaded already

One thing I want to point out is that the XQR Smart Round System becomes an essential ability in late game when so much stuff is spawning that scoping in for sniper shots can be risky. After about halfway through my second loop, I find myself almost exclusively using it over either of the scoped weapons.

Squak easily SSS tier ability, and I am deeply offended on a personal level by this implicit hatred of the realest survivor, the birb. how dare you sir. HOW DARE YOU AND GOOD DAY SIR!

man it's so crazy that Woolie thought Diablo Strike ability was C tier and not S+ tier omg :)

I'm sad about hooks of heresy. It's so good with a couple back up mags and you just spam it up close. It's saved many of my runs and I always take it on captain.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

yea I think Woolie just hasn’t used it much. he kinda said that he’d get better with it if he used it more, I bet if he played captain more like us he would appreciate how insane it is. I’d say it’s at least high B

Bro, Mul T's nail gun paired with the special where he can dual wield is so busted, literally a no brainer combo but is super fun to "one shot" bosses.

Huntress' flurry with plasma shrimp feels pretty nice, just unleashing a barrage of projectiles on 1 enemy feels so satisfying, though that's just my personal preference

Mr steamer you should do a tier list based solely on how the items look on survivors

@Z4Zman

2 жыл бұрын

Predatory Instincts F TIER

@heatran4109

2 жыл бұрын

Meat gets s because of acrid

5:54 impressive description

Woolie putting the bubble shield that low cuz he doesn't understand turret placement 💀

Just got a 45 min drive home and this comes up, excellent- will whack it on in the background

@harrybutimnot

2 жыл бұрын

Lol straight whacking it to woolie

REX secondary does 400% damage… not 1000. I wish.

So a detail I don't see mentioned EVER in RoR2... MULTI's Nail Gun does a shotgun blast when tap fired. It introduces a short fire delay but has better dps than holding the trigger and with better accuracy.

Void Fiend's secondary abilities are just movement abilities in disguise.

@kylemckell

2 жыл бұрын

They negate fall damage since they have a tiniest kickback, right?

@hammerstix5791

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylemckell that little baby knockback effect is just enough to at least reduce your momentum as you fall or bump you just that little bit extra for a jump

@naturalkind5591

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylemckell that tiny bit of knockback is enough to make void fiend skip pillars with only 3 goathoves or 2 Energie drinks

@naturalkind5591

2 жыл бұрын

Also pretty fantastic damage when combined with primary without charging.

who's gonna tell him they patched acrid's animation cancel?

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

they didnt patch it lol, its even better now. they just changed how it works a bit

@You-fools

2 жыл бұрын

it was patched, to be better than before. Animation cancelling with Acrid now gives you the benefits of the full 3 hit combo at the same speed it was before.

@Woolie

2 жыл бұрын

who's gonna tell him that it's better now?

@stealywheelyautomobiley7565

2 жыл бұрын

@@Woolie oh seriously? i thought they just took out the sprint cancel clearly i missed that my bad

@0osk

2 жыл бұрын

@@stripey3860 ABSOLUTELY GOATED PROFILE PICTURE

So, assuming I did the maths right, rating abilities 5 for S 0 for F, averaging out the values to compensate for survivors with different number of abilities. A survivor tier list from this would be, from top to bottom: Loader, Bandit, Huntress, Railgunner, Merc, Void, Cap & Rex (same value), Commando, Multi, Engineer, Artificer & Acrid (same again) and Heratic on their own at the bottom.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

leo you the goat bro

Take a drink when he says "If you play *survivor* you know exactly what I'm talking about"

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

wasted

As a person who plays a lot of engi, harpoon is great, but bubble shield is also really good. If you break the habbit of standing still inside of you shield at all times and is very useful for utility. It comes up quickly enough to block almost any ranged attack besides maybe imp overlords, mythrix spikes, and wandering vangrants rapid fire. I can easily save you from vangrant explosions and granparents heat it up. I roll both harpoons and bubble about equally

@ATRS2K

2 жыл бұрын

Specially with a Hardlight Afterburner you pretty much get permanent uptime on it.

41:50 One of my favourite builds I've ever gone actually revolves entirely around strides of Heresy. I became heretic with 4 stacks of strides for 12 second invul + afterburner. Then went hellfire tincture + gestures + razorwire stacking. It turned me into a permanently invincible ball of death that instantly killed every enemy in a hundred meter radius.

Now do a 'maps tierlist', mr streamer

Regarding flurry at 6:30, it may be mathematically better for dps, but when 1 shot of either flurry or strafe would kill a target, strafe is going to let you move on to additional targets sooner. I value clearing the early stages way higher than the late game, since the abundance of items you have will likely patch most holes.

In 2 days, I'll finally be able to get the new dlc.

@Biff_1070

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

For acrid, with animation cancels, it now gives you the 10% heal while animation cancelling, which I think gives him a better early game and makes him a little better than before :D

@Drummerx04

2 жыл бұрын

The in game description now says 5% on Regeneration. Was it nerfed silently in SotV?

@Linbranke

2 жыл бұрын

@@Drummerx04 no it wasn't. Regeneration is 10% hp per second. The regen effect lasts for 0.5 seconds. It's always been like this.

@Drummerx04

2 жыл бұрын

@@Linbranke idk. I'm looking at the in game description right now. "Heal for 5% of your maximum health over 0.5s." Start with 160 hp, land 3rd hit, recover 8 hp. Checks out at 5%.

@Linbranke

2 жыл бұрын

@@Drummerx04 yes the math is correct, but regenerations effect BEFORE said 10% over 1 second and the effects duration lasted half a second before as well. The effect wasn't changed, the wording just changed. Acrid's heal hasn't been nerfed.

@Drummerx04

2 жыл бұрын

@@Linbranke Ah I see. Kind of asinine of them to have put in that original description. That's incredibly misleading.

man it's so crazy that Woolie thought Slicing Maelstrom ability was D tier and not A tier omg. No cap 875% AoE damage for 3 seconds with 700% AoE damage for a combined 3325% AoE damage per cast + rooted debuf + 0.2 Proc Coefficient on small hits and 1.0 on final hit, its one of the highest damaging skills in the game. It is 100% janky to use, but once you get the hang of it or just plant it next to a big slow boss you will see the DPS. I love the teir list for making discussions and I am glad you made one MR.STREAMER :)

31:21 never apologize for hydrating

only thing that kinda bugs me tbh is how often you say an ability is bad "because its melee" yet with alot of survivors you say "i like to stay close to the enemy/barrel stuff them". other than that i think i agree with most of the list, although as a loader main i honestly much prefer loaders thunderslam over the pylon, i dont really see the point of a little bit of extra mobility when i can just grapple literally anything else and get almost the same effect as the pylon, minus the small speed boost if you can time the grapple on the pylon right. :)

@classymofo1059

2 жыл бұрын

There's a huge difference between close and melee. You absolutely dont want to be in melee range of a flaming elder lumerian. But if your close range , you get max damage and ur far enough away to avoid instant death shotgun fire breath. That's the distinction. And basically all void enemies you dont want to be touching them

@chenf429

2 жыл бұрын

@@classymofo1059 honestly in my opinion its easier to dodge enemy melee attacks when youre much closer, i can easily run around most melee enemies and dodge 90% of their attacks, and be in melee range myself. again though im a loader main so i guess im basing most of my experience off that, maybe its not as viable with the ranged survivors, but i still dont think a skill is inherently "better" because its ranged. staying at a distance with merc/acrid, while potentially safer, basically means you cant utilise half of their kit. youre correct with the flaming elites though, just touching them applies burn so they are always the biggest problem for me.

@randomspectator4417

2 жыл бұрын

@@classymofo1059 void enemies take so long to detonate any melee survivor could get out of range almost instantly, as they all have really good mobility. Like damn you can walk out of most of them

@Ed-1749

2 жыл бұрын

Close range is bandit/captain shotgun. Dont want to use them from across the world, but you're still shooting from range. Melee means you have to go into the range where enemy attacks are undodgeable, which means you die.

@chenf429

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ed-1749 no melee enemy attacks are "undodgeable". only "undodgeable" attacks are hitscans like wisps

I honestly really disagree with the thought that Ballista carry’s Huntress. I think her auto aim is completely fine to play with, and I’ve never really struggled with it

@jaypking4945

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, mid to late game I just don’t use the special at all and probably swap with essence.

@Klausbro

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaypking4945 Yeah. I also adore flurry, it’s my favorite ability. Getting capped crit with it is more fun than any other build in the game in my opinion

@MrKippers

2 жыл бұрын

I think Huntress' auto aim is the Achilles' heel to her power. It ensures that enemies stay alive for the longest time possible. It is much better to kill one enemy than damage a bunch of enemies equally. Example: On sky meadows, if there is a group of wisps, brass contraptions, and mushrums, I want to kill the brass contraptions first since they are the most lethal enemy out of that group. Due to auto aim, say my flurry hits a wisp(uh oh), then my glaive hits two mushrums back and forth(not good). This is where ballista steps in. Ballista lets me *choose* what I want dead. I spam R 3 times and now it's just the wisps and mushrums left(much safer group of enemies compared to before). Without ballista, I would of had to kite those enemies for an extra minute just to split up the group of enemies and hope my flurry+laser glaive kills everything. P.S I like flurry too, it's a lot less irritating to flick back and forth with compared to strafe :)

@periberry7345

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrKippers you can also use M1 to fire off ballista, so if you press both at the same time twice you'll fire off the entire volley in a split second

I'd argue that railgunners passive is more detrimental than not. Railgunner would be even further busted if her unscoped m1 could crit.

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

true shits kinda mid. it’s nice with fuel cell + gesture for ocular hud build for 100% extra crit damage most of the time, and lens makers start adding a lot of damage late game when you already have a lot of crowbars and shit, but most of the time it’s just kinda useless and having regular crit would allow you to not only crit on regular m1 but also not on weak points which would be kinda dumb. imagine if it doubled it again if you rolled a crit while also hitting a weak point lol

Arrow rain apologist here I think pairing it with chrono/tentabauble Makes it really solid and useable. You are able to drop it and move which compliments the fast paced huntress as opposed to ballista which kinda leaves you hanging until you're done. Not saying it's better but I think it's just as useable

@phierle1061

2 жыл бұрын

you can unload ballistae shots just as fast as you’d cast arrow rain, for a skilled player it’s a non-issue and ballista is better in almost every way.

@MrDeeBerry

2 жыл бұрын

@@phierle1061 multiple enemies better procing sends the void shrimp dmg to godly levels and again not "better" just more viable than this vid will have you believe. Maybe one more time not better just viable

Woolie, you do feel the effects of the crits from Railgunner but you don't realize it. At 10 Crowbars getting 1 Glasses gives you an 11th Crowbar in terms of damage but also 10% damage versus non-full enemies. At 11 Crowbars 1 Glasses is actually boosting your damage by 1.1 Crowbars or better then a new Crowbar. At 20 Crowbars 1 Glasses gives you 2 more Crowbars worth of damage.

@deuterium-0156

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, at that point, you don't hardly feel the effects of more crowbars. If you have 20 crowbars, you just win, ez

@Buglin_Burger7878

2 жыл бұрын

​@@deuterium-0156 I'm glad to see you took my extreme example out of context and ignored the part where I covered it even applies at 10 stacks (Technically 9 though.) Stop and think about real runs for a moment. 3 Crowbars, 2 Watches, and 1 Glasses. At 6 items glasses boost the damage by 26.5 from those and 10 from the base increase for almost 2 whole damage items with the benefit that when you inevitably don't 1-shot an enemy and reduce an enemy under 90% you can still get a decent damage boost from 2 Watches + 1 Glasses. You'll keep 1-shotting enemies longer with Glasses then without in real runs. With Watches and other 20% damage items having just 5+Glasses is the same as getting a new 20% item. The second you hit 200% damage boosted Glasses become better then almost all items and once you hit 750% Glasses overtake literally all damage boosting items.

The frags are underrated imo. Not great, but still underrated. once you learn how to throw them well, they can do some funny business. It also gives commando some much needed early game CC. Once again still not great overall tho

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@Rill the stun is really not worth much. and it deals the same dps as his primary there is zero plausible reason not to use grenades

@cv5870

2 жыл бұрын

@@stripey3860 both r equally good

@nobleradical2158

2 жыл бұрын

I had a friend who could hit the angles, and the freaks can really do damage. The biggest downside is that they don’t scale with attack speed.

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@Rill The dps increase is completely pathetic. if you do the endlag cancel frame-perfectly it does like, 2 more double-tap shots of damage. with normal use it doesn’t affect commando’s dps at all (because of the endlag) nades are better solely because suppressive does what commando’s primary does but with a stun. it is pretty much completely worthless even with some attack speed

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@Rill also if you mean the “attack speed is broken” one his dps test on suppressive didn’t include the endlag, so the numbers aren’t really correct.

:) Even though I have 300 hours in this game, most of the time Woolie says "if you know what I'm talking about you know what I'm talking about", I don't actually know what he's talking about.

Sorry for wall of text it's not a complaint/whining comment honest! With that out of the way: Void Fiend's non-corrupt utility is so misunderstood. It is *not* an ability to use in a vacuum. If you pop the heal, and then utility, you'll be invincible while you wait for the heal to actually pop, so you'll come out of it ready to fire again. You can also charge your secondary through it- start charging, immediately use utility, and then you come out with full charge. Enemies tend to cluster beneath you quickly, so you just point down and blast with that AoE to a safe landing. And if you're particularly fast, you can use all three skills at the same time. Healing, invulnerability, cleansing, a ground-clearing AoE, all within one second. It's great! There's a tempo to Void Fiend's normal form, to most effectively keep health high and rack up damage for the passive. The second form is to forgo all of that and go Dark Samus up in everyone's business. :p It's the reward. Though it starts to get *really annoying* when you get too much move speed.

feel like diablo strike should be at least B tier because you can use it to skip pillars on commencement, gives it a bit more utility over the default option

@Yenix_

2 жыл бұрын

how?

@bigwads

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yenix_ if you let it hit you it kills you, making it so that you dont have to do the pillars

@duckdouchebag

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yenix_ it can launch you a good few hundred units into the air, enough to jump into the mithrix arena

@Chuckychargeblade

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigwads lol it will kill you if you have glass or anything to not have OSP. otherwise if you let it hit you you can fly all da way to Mithrix

speaking as an engineer main, stationary mines should be F, those things are utter trash

@videogamegang1797

2 жыл бұрын

They’re good in Simulacrum

It was really cool seeing all your thoughts on the abilities all put into one video. Good stuff my dude :)

Actually agree with absolutely most of your choices. Super good Tier List :)))

Hooks I feel is better than a decent chunk of the secondaries on my opinion.

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

it definently is

@kickasscowell5654

2 жыл бұрын

A tier surely

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@@kickasscowell5654 yea i would put it A, it’s workable on a good portion of the survivor cast

Don't get the hate for flurry, it really doesn't take many items for it to become decent and crit especially makes it much better than strafe, but the extra number of hits for procs seems better late game when items deal all your damage

@harveyboi3917

2 жыл бұрын

Captain primary can easily out proc flurry, even if huntress has full crit and captain has no items: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iX2kzal_gZvLY9I.html. Strafe has a proc coefficient of 1 and also fires faster, making it scale really well.

@Keyce0013

2 жыл бұрын

@@harveyboi3917 While that's true, Huntress's attack will always land or it won't fire, whereas you can miss with the Captain's attack, or not hit with all particles.

@sethtaccola

2 жыл бұрын

Idc about captain lol, I was strictly talking flurry v strafe for huntress

@abra_escaped

2 жыл бұрын

@@harveyboi3917 captain relies almost entirely on his primary for everything though, huntress has her glaive and special to use regularly in fights too

@harveyboi3917

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethtaccola You asked why it got hate. I was trying to give you comparison to other survivors for example. But also strafe is way more consistent than flurry, as you can see in the video i provided flurry can be extremely slow to fire and the proc is very low as well.

Factor in the fact that you’ll mainly be hitting weak points of enemies with Railgunner, and his normal sniper goes from 1000%-1500% damage to 2000%-3000% damage. Crazy damage

That was a fun video! I agree with most things here. Ty for the cool vid! I really enjoyed, and the video length was chill.

flamethrower d tier edit: holy shit he actually put it there based

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

flamethrower is insanely good, got buffed in dlc as well

@goon4744

2 жыл бұрын

@@stripey3860 it’s ass, you never wanna be that close to an enemy as artificer, especially when it hinders your movement while using it.

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@@goon4744 you have snapfreeze to make them immobile while you flamethrower them, plus going close to most enemies as arti is fine as long as you’re not reckless

@stripey3860

2 жыл бұрын

@@goon4744 flamethrower just gets a bad rep cause it’s hard to use. in the right hands it’s miles better than ion surge

@goon4744

2 жыл бұрын

@@stripey3860 getting close to them while not being able to sprint is reckless 💀

7:32 correction. They fixed the animation cancel tech so you can't do it anymore. For anyone seeing this just to keep information consistent.

@Kirn.

2 жыл бұрын

It still works. It's buffed in fact, since now it cycles through the swings.

@Woolie

2 жыл бұрын

no, they actually made it BETTER. it goes through the 3 different stages (final one dealing big dmg & healing), rather than only repeating the 1st attack.

@thezard7013

2 жыл бұрын

@@Woolie oh my bad I just thought doing all 3 was slower then doing one really fast

@rashmikalia1304

2 жыл бұрын

@@Woolie is it done the same way as the old one

@maruke305

2 жыл бұрын

@@rashmikalia1304 yes it’s the exact same but better

The void bombs actually give tons of momentum when shot midair so I usually use it for mobility because you can charge while sprinting

thank you for the background noise for my late night vampire survivors :)

flurrys DPS is also terrible. Flurry with 10x Crit Glasses does less DPS than Captains M1 with nothing. this video sort of demonstrates it. Obviously Captain's M1 is also just really, really good - but if you were to balance the scales flurry is still pretty bad. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iX2kzal_gZvLY9I.html

@Buglin_Burger7878

2 жыл бұрын

This video is rather unfair, yes at point blank range where you don't charge the shotgun that is true. Outside of that range or against small-medium sized enemies you charge and your DPS drops massively either through charging or wiffing pellets. It takes into account only a "perfect" situation which makes it all the more inaccurate. Flurry at the medium range where you try to stay to avoid attacks is going to have an equal DPS due to charge time or missing 1-6 pellets. This is case of poor testing and omitting key parts provides a false narrative even unintentionally.

@JackAllpikeMusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Buglin_Burger7878 I don't think the video is perfect, however I do think that even given changes in the environment that captains M1 would still come out on top. Both of Huntresses M1's are capped at a range which the captain doesn't. Past Huntresses range, her M1 does 0 DPS whereas Captain can charge his shot up to still do something at least. At the max range of Huntresses M1, I don't think there'd be that big of a difference either.

15:09 that’s not at all what I hate about sniper lol, I use marksman bc sniper is just too spammy with the reloads. Marksman has always felt way better to me

@Davenzoid

2 жыл бұрын

How is railgunner more spammy when she has to reload, but not spammy with the auto sniper mode? I don't get it

@kosmickalamity7071

2 жыл бұрын

@@Davenzoid marksman is full auto, you just hold the button

Fun fact the walking turrets give a slow by default on their shooting target making it easier to proc death mark.

Professional Gamer™ ranks the Risk of Rain 2 survivor abilities without know what half of them do. This is the content I subscribe for.

Fully disagree with Plasma bolt. Should be B tier or C tier.

@abra_escaped

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It is technically stronger if you hit multiple things per shot, but I feel like it needs a bit of a damage buff or something to help it keep up with fireball

@robotcloud2729

2 жыл бұрын

@@abra_escaped I don't really think it needs a damage buff. It can get procs on each thing you hit. So if you hit three beetles with one plasma bolt you could technically proc 3 atgs at once.

@abra_escaped

2 жыл бұрын

@@robotcloud2729 good point, what if it slightly pulled enemies together to make more use of the aoe?

Wait how is railgunners secondary in s tier?? It literally hits nothing

@squaye.

2 жыл бұрын

what?

In all honesty,watching you rank these was perfect in my opinion. I kept hearing smack and hate on Commando so i assumed he sucked... but i still loved the guy! Seeing this reassured my knowledge on his ability. thanks for the fun video :D

loaders passive is S tier mate , being able to ignore all fall dmg is amazing , also ion search is S tier aswell with that u can basically avoid most enemies while doing dmg

Worst part of scrap launcher is that it says its a missile but doesnt work with icbm However engineer's "harpoons" do

Don’t forget that Bramble Volley does 550% dmg, heals, does AOE, and is considered a Utility, which means it’s affected by hardlight afterburner, making you have 3 charges of a screen wiping death shout.

:) Love hearing you talk so much, you're so charimastic and intelligent.

You can hate Shadowfade all you want, but you can't deny that it has at least saved my bacon on more than a few occasions.

I totally agree that Commandos grenades need a rework. They aren't "random" but they feel so hard to aim correctly. The only real reason to grab these is to proc bands on an immobile target. Getting a frag off on Mithrix takes some serious skill and luck.

Arrow rain is actually good for slow moving things, like the stone golems. But I will use it over myself in case creatures get too close.

🙂 Personally, I think that running fire bolt/flamethrower artificer feels pretty damn good in the current version with the new ignition tanks and attack speed buff on flamethrower. You get some of that goin', and you can do some major damage. Risky playstyle, sure, but fun imo.

loader also has no fall damage on her passive right? thats pretty essential to loader imo, i think that warrants like an A? amazing tier list though, great stuff.

This is cool, even tho its an hour+ lomg, its not oring, because you have a very nice way of commenting Woolie. Tho, when RoR2 OST tier list? That would actually be nutty

27:28 Don't worry I made myself some food and tea while listening and now I sat down to eat. I'm fine Mister Streamer.

:) Actually good tierlist, very little that I disagree on

Ayyy recently got into risk of rain and ur videos have been my guide to the game thanks bro! great vids

You don’t NEED merc’s m1 for ranged, but there is added depth to the play style given you can proc exposed by timing your third strike with your special.

Free podcast from Woolie, S tier

i love that you can watch the daylight change outside woolie's window over the course of this video

:) Made it through the whole video, was nice hearing the explanation of the abilities, I'm new to the game but love it!