As Russell T Davies said: "Most people assume racism happens in the past, but what makes you think it can't happen in the future?"

@Zestieee

Ай бұрын

Hope, I guess. But alas, history is famous for repeating itself.

@FelipeA81

Ай бұрын

Hope, we improved to much in the last few years, why can't we keep improving?

@ThetaSigma-vu1sk

Ай бұрын

@@FelipeA81 And yet things are getting worse. Women's rights are being lowered. Racism is becoming more and more common. LGBTQ rights are being lowered. Society is devolving when it comes to minorities

@baybarsedturner2

Ай бұрын

Because having a thing against black people in 1000 years time would be as odd as having a thing against Vikings today? I mean there might be racism in the future but it would likely be against different groups.

@tenhayz1889

Ай бұрын

@@FelipeA81 LMAO. We've improved? Really? KZread keeps recommanding me videos from conservatives even if I put "do not recommand", some with 10k views, some with 100k. Look at the title and thumbnail of these videos, it reeks of hate

2014: All Classic Who References 2024: All Racism References

@WDBlackMamba

Ай бұрын

Disney effect

@rascal_rae

Ай бұрын

@@WDBlackMamba 🤦

@archusrtm6325

17 сағат бұрын

@@WDBlackMambaits not disney its Russel T Davies, disney are a bunch of cowards who refuse to touch sensitive issues except when it is both safe and profitable, they care not for racism or queer rights, despite what amerikkkan conservativeSS claim, disney are a company, they barely have any lgbtqia+ characters except characters who are mentioned to be queer once or twice in order to bait queer viewers in expecting good representation, as RTD would say its a “feeble gesture”. Fuck disney

“All Racism References” has to be the funniest title for a video I’ve ever seen in my life, like I get it, but gives the vibe of like, an Easter egg video lmao

@frostpatch2347

Ай бұрын

"big callback to racism right here"

@hada__02

Ай бұрын

@@frostpatch2347 as featured in The Two Doctors, of course

When she asked "You're in the same room??" I thought it was another jab at people being so consumed by social media that they don't even socialize in the same room in this society. But, nope, racial segregation. This is one of those episodes that is incredibly rewarding to re-watch.

@QueerCoral

Ай бұрын

OHHHHHHHH I thought it was because they all lived in their own bubble and didn't interact with anyone physically eg: "that was my first hug"

@milky7257

Ай бұрын

@@QueerCoral I think it's both and that's why it's so clever!

@mrcritical6751

27 күн бұрын

@@milky7257nah it can’t be both as we know Lindy works in a room with three other people and two of her friends are twins who share a bubble. It’s pure racism but the social media commentary helps disguise it

@Smellbringer

14 күн бұрын

@@mrcritical6751Which makes the episode clever. It challenges your assumptions and makes you go back for a re-watch to see what you missed. The kids all are spoiled rich assholes and they literally bleed blue blood. Not a detail you notice until the second viewing.

Also the fact that when the doctor appeared it was an unsolicited request but when ruby appeared it wasnt, interesting 🤔

@dark_ops1651

Ай бұрын

yoooo I just noticed that

@Zestieee

Ай бұрын

that was the only one of those i did notice, most other ones really flew over my head

@redcr33perproductions

Ай бұрын

It flew over my head 💀

@Pikachu150

Ай бұрын

@@Zestieee Yeah this whole episode was shit you didn't pick up easily until the rewatch. It's crazy how subtle a decent chunk of it was and it just seemed like she was a spoiled brat.

Love that Ruby knows what's going on right away, as she's probably seen this happen to her mum all the time.

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

"I can't even...."

I like how, mid-way through the lecture about how the TARDIS is "voodoo" Ruby looks away from them. She knew instantly what was happening, she's seen it before.

@MrMarco33333

Ай бұрын

With a milli-second perfect cut to Ncuti as those words hit home. Powerful.

@joekreissl4499

Ай бұрын

she's lived with it. her mum's black

@mrcritical6751

27 күн бұрын

@@joekreissl4499I honestly have this horrible image in my head where years ago some nosey Karen calls the cops during a shopping trip cause she thought Carla was kidnapping Ruby, whenever I think about that

I didn't even notice the racism until they showed it on the Doctor Who KZread channel. Even though most people have been calling this season "woke" and stuff, this really felt like a powerful way to show these problems. If I was a more emotional person, I would be emotional right now. This was a really good episode.

@danielkiran8174

Ай бұрын

Doctor was "woke" from 2005. Anyone who pretends otherwise didn't pay attention.

@micbln8967

Ай бұрын

"I didn't even notice" says a lot about the bubble you live in yourself.

@masterfrf

Ай бұрын

@@micbln8967 The "bubble" I expect to live in is one without racism.

@masterfrf

Ай бұрын

@@danielkiran8174 on skibidi

@HopeAuq

Ай бұрын

​@@danielkiran8174Oh...oh sweetie it's been woke since 1963 nevermind 2005

I stopped the episode at the "I know he looks weird" part and asked my friends if I was looking too far into it that they were treating him differently and at the end I was disgusted to realize I was right.

Does anyone else think the "you will obey me" was a subtle nod to the Daleks? Not as in teasing their return or involvement in the episode, but to show the similarities in behaviour.

@alexandertelson3713

29 күн бұрын

Or the master

Ricky September deserved better! I just know he would've happily gone with the Doctor 😢

@idjles

Ай бұрын

Ricky was actually exactly like the Doctor in words and action, and Lindy accepted him, but when the real Doctor did EXACTLY the same, she rejected him.

@zyphbehr

Ай бұрын

There had been talk from some viewers who said if Ricky had not ☠️, then he might have been able to convince the others to listen and go with the doctor or they even blindly follow him as an “influenster”, but without the voice of someone willing to see logic and understand history, now instead they are going to do their own thing, no matter how little it makes sense, no matter the consquences.

@fadikhoory5350

Ай бұрын

How could you tell? Is there a line which implies he’s met the Doctor? Has he met a non-white person? Well asking it already sounds so because he don’t have his bubble.

@Blazing_Ninja

Ай бұрын

Ricky would’ve been a cool companion!

@Doctor_Pickney

Ай бұрын

I was lowkey hoping he would become a temporary companion or at the least turn down the doctor in favor if being able to steer this twisted society in the right direction

One thing overlooked is that when Lindy enters the "safe area," she sees Ruby and The Doctor and has a "freaked out" expression and goes out of her way to avoid them...not go to them and thank them for saving her...but appalled that HE is allowed to be there. I know it's mentioned when they are face to face, but there also is that initial moment where they Could meet, but she skirts away ASAP.

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

I noticed that right after I finished 😂 Every time I rewatch there’s something new, it’s such a fascinating episode

@DrZann

Ай бұрын

NGL they hid the twist well. I thought her avoiding them was because she was worried they knew what she did to Ricky somehow. Rewatching the episode they were brilliantly subtle about how much of racist pos the FineTime community was.

Am I the only one beating myself over the head or not realizing the twist earlier?

@davidcheater4239

Ай бұрын

I got that Lindy was racist quite quickly. It wasn't until the end that I realized her society was white-supremacist when I say that everyone else acted the same way.

@joshuanorman2

Ай бұрын

Just shows how excellently her character was written

@FlamingWings2

Ай бұрын

Nah, the episode was written to cleverly show how people overlook minor acts of racism until its in their face.

12 should have made a cameo in this episode just to punch Lindy in the face

@InfiniteProductions123

Ай бұрын

i have a feeling 15th would just watch in relief, meanwhile ruby is just confused to why there is an old man punching lindy.

@worthybutter2004

Ай бұрын

OMG That'd be hilarious! 😂 Just the idea of him saving himself is funny to think about!

@WielkaAutorkaaD

Ай бұрын

@@InfiniteProductions123 "Ruby, meet my former self. Yes, I was white once. And old. And Scottish. This version of me is known for punching racists, playing an electric guitar and having lots of weird stuff in his browser history"

"Because you, sir, are not one of us..." I read somewhere that Russell T Davies made a small change to the twist. What if the change was small, even smaller than six words? Just one word. I think he had to tone it down with one word, which would have made it a hundred times more offensive to The Doctor if it were kept in the script. "Because you, boy, are not one of us..."

@ShaunakDesaiPiano

Ай бұрын

Remind anyone of “no you’re right, not a single word. Just six” This comment can be summarised as: “No, you’re right, not six words. Just a single word”.

"I was right to hate you" should've been a dead giveaway.

After watching this episode and these kinds of breakdowns a few times, the most haunting and horrible aspect (that no one is really talking about) is that she expects him to be "punished.". That may imply that people of color (if there are any left) are "punished" regularly in their society. Just thinking about that may may be like is sickening and chilling.

@Pikachu150

Ай бұрын

If it helps they are humanoid aliens and not humans, so with any luck might just be a small sect like the ultra fundies in the southern US.

@mrcritical6751

27 күн бұрын

It implies that Homeworld might still have slavery

@Gothic7876

25 күн бұрын

@@mrcritical6751 Had Slavery. The AI purged it. Now my belief is that the non white part of the population survived, as they wouldn’t have been allowed to use the Dot and Bubble. But they did nothing to help when the AI decided to purge the Racists. As for the Homeworld being reduced to a population of 0, well the homeworld might only register the White part of its population.

A lot of these aren't necessarily directly hinting towards "racism", but rather "isolationism" - a lot of those points do go hand-in-hand as the latter can influence the development of racist views

@Zestieee

Ай бұрын

yeah isolationism naturally paves the way to xenophobia which easily turns into fully fledged racism

@danielkiran8174

Ай бұрын

True, but she clearly tolerated Ruby much more than Doctor.

@jjkeyboards

Ай бұрын

@@danielkiran8174 yes, but there's a lot of things brought up here that are purely just dependence on the Dot and Bubble without any reference to interacting with the Doctor / Ruby Not saying the list is incomplete, but just not precise

@rascal_rae

Ай бұрын

do you think segregation wasn't directly racist?

@peterjermey7235

Ай бұрын

Yes it's difficult to unpick the two. It's hard to be racist without being isolationist and it's hard to be isolationist without being racist, both are about demonizing groups of people

Disclaimer: Some of these likely aren’t intentional or might need more explaining, obscure references and stuff. There’s a few demonstrations of arrogance, refusal and stuff that while don’t directly display racism, are common traits in racists. Oh, and those rIpDoCtOrWhO people who think it’s suddenly gone woke, please consider what you comment on this video especially because, yk, if you keep supporting Lindy it’s really not a good look 😂

@ugolomb

Ай бұрын

Nothing sudden about it, of course. Doctor Who always had this sort of agenda. In some cases it was done more subtly, in others more blatantly, but it was always there

@masterfrf

Ай бұрын

On Skibidi

@UryIsReal

Ай бұрын

Your video isnt really actually exploring msot of the racism, especially in the beginning its just talking about how shes unable to be independant and are really not needed. Could've been way more concentrated and shouldve removed parts like that and kept parts like the doctor in the beginning being "unsolicited"

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

@@UryIsReal the bubble is a metaphor, racist societies live in bubbles, echo chambers. A lot of them are more indirect references

@islandmat

Ай бұрын

@@ugolomb I don't know, I don't seem to remember every episode being about sex or race before. Most of the episodes now make me feel uncomfortable because every episode is about sex or race regardless of being gay or straight. While there are some instances in older episodes most I could watch with my family. While you are right, Doctor Who has had gay characters like Captain Jack in the past, or mixed race couples, like Rose and Mickey, they didn't bother anyone because they didn't rub it in our face and tell us every 10 seconds he was gay or that he was black, and most of all it didn't compromise story to get the point across. People accept things that are normalized. We don't have an issue with these themes, no one is homophobic or racist, we just dislike bad writing or not being inclusive of straight or white people (like news outlets getting on-board with the direction and not realizing saying the show "isn't for straight white males anymore" is actually a racist headline). I am, myself, gay and have a partner. My mother, is also gay. This show, makes gay or trans people uncomfortable. This show is for not for anyone.

Some of those things I wouldn´t consider racist but just being entitled which isn´t good either. It actually took me until the end to understand why she didn´t like the Doctor but considering that she also didn´t like Ruby very much (calling her stupid and being annoyed) I simply thought Lindy doesn´t like interacting with people she doesn´t know.

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

Yeah, a lot of these probably aren’t intentional and are just common traits in racists, but I found it really fun in a way this episode watching it back and picking up on these

@benjaminstock5334

Ай бұрын

I’m glad I’m not the only one who picked up on that. It’s like that Star Trek episode, The Drumhead. Guilt by association is not a crime. If someone has an otherwise innocuous or stupid trait that racists often have, that doesn’t make them racist. We as a forward thinking society often cast too wide a net for our own good. Also, if blindly obeying parents is racist, then heaven help us, and heaven help all the toddlers of 2024. Who’s got the conch?

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

@@benjaminstock5334 it’s just that those traits are common in racists and therefore it builds them up as one. It’s not just 1 reference or 1 trait, there’s blatant racism on top of multiple of these. I’m not saying that following influencers and being a hypocrite makes you racist, but when you have 20 of those correlated traits on top of the knowledge that they’re massively racist, it just paints a pictue

@scr0ngle108

Ай бұрын

​@@benjaminstock5334did you have to put "blindly" in there?

@jujublue4426

Ай бұрын

​@@benjaminstock5334 It's not just racist people who blindly obey, but racists often inherit their racism from parents.

One thing that jumped out at me through reading thr transcript was how Lindy responded to Ruby even though she was annoyed with her, she still paid attention. When the doctor talked to her or tried to encourage her, she called him condesending, etc.

I'm so glad Murray Gold came back. Another awesome score for the scene right here.

@tulliusexmisc2191

Ай бұрын

Well, you picked the right video to make that comment. Personally, I think Gold is perfectly capable, but he doesn't do anything special. His music is fine, but it could have been written for any programme. Whereas Segun Akinola not only showed the same level of technical competence, but also re-introduced the musical innovation we often heard in classic Who. Akinola's scores push the envelope, and when you listen to them you know this is not just another soap opera.

Well… Lindy is a Karen

I first thought it was a classism thing, given that Finetime given that it was populated by only rich kids, but on reflection that does just fold into the racism and the effects of systemic racism.

The Doctor should have let them all get eaten by the Slugs!

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

The singer said there was still thousands being eaten that day. But it looked like the Doctor and Ruby didn't stick around to try to save them too. Too bad if there was anyone decent with a last name of Q-Z.

I'm surprised that Lindy and Bugle girl address the Doctor as "Sir". I would expect something more derogatory.

@Yduno29

Ай бұрын

Thank god they couldn't say the n-word on the BBC

@carolinemcgovern4488

Ай бұрын

I suspect in that case, calling him sir was out of pragmatism out of anything else.

@Doctor_Pickney

Ай бұрын

@@Yduno29 Well that obviously can't say that, though a workaround to emphasize how Lindy felt about him would be constantly calling the Doctor 'outsider' or something of that nature

@davidbarton1928

Ай бұрын

I guess you've never experienced contemptuous over politeness before. That use of 'Sir' others and denigrates the Doctor while maintaining a veneer of faux civility.

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

I watched some _Quantum Leap_ episodes on Syfy and another network a couple years back. They censored the N-word and both the R-word and the R-ed word for what's now called "autistic." I guess when it first came out live in the 1990s people could understand the context and deal with it, but not now.

most of these aren’t racism specifically, but general examples of groupthink. i think that’s kind of the point they’re making. racism is basically another kind of groupthink, much like doomscrolling

The blue blood!

@BritneyLaZonga

Ай бұрын

Am I color blind or is it more dark turquoise?

@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8

Ай бұрын

@@BritneyLaZonga Eh close enough

The future is Bowlestrek and Nerdrotic.

The gut punch from this episode, as The Doctor faced Lindy, when I suddenly realised every kid in FineTime was white. And the fact that I'd only just noticed. Because these things aren't subtle. The flags are super obvious in hindsight. I'd just dismissed them. I hadn't noticed. Which is what happens in real life. Privileged people don't see the little aggressions. The little aggressions that can be just as damaging as a slur. And this was an intensely powerful way to show that.

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

They could do shows where everyone is south-Asian or east-Asian or African, but they don't because it probably would cost too much. By contrast _Lost_ did an episode in Hawaii (where the series was filmed) with an African town for Eko's stories.

Looking back, I'm so glad that this episode caused such a massive talking point immediately after broadcast.

Ty for this! I didn't get it at all when I saw it.

"You _sir,_ are not one of us." I didn't pick up on the "sir" bit thinking it was because both were outsiders.

1:16 wow, i analysed this episode before and never realised that. But that's an interesting answer to why tje doctor and ruby can't reach the inside of the bubble

dude this episode was so insanely good and when I realized what was happening with them being racist and not going with him to the Tardis I got literal chills. Not being able to save them because of THAT is just so sad

Also, the song "Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" is a song from the year 1960!

One of the best episodes in decades.

I love all these references to my favourite thing in Doctor Who!

She makes Davros look like a saint in comparison

The line that made me start to predict where this was going was "he's not as stupid as he looks" it's not a line that would normally make me think really at all just the fact that everyone else was white and she's basically saying the only person who isn't looks stupid was a huge red flag

The absolute worst part about this episode for me personally was I did not even notice or flinch at any of the blatantly obvious racism that was being dangled in front of me. Only after seeing the end of the episode and after going back and rewatching did I realize how obvious it was. Really made me feel icky. But at the same time that's why I enjoyed the episode I don't consume media just so I can feel think and learn nothing

Really wish we got to see the die or hear their screams of horror.

I think Davros would love her if she were a dalek.

The whole episode is just Rich people stereotypes with a hint of racism. I'm pretty sure about it.

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

Russell clarified a few things on unleashed and bts, it’s sort of a mix of both kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZl4pqVpptvTXZc.htmlsi=ZeT1QYjvG2lntFeU

you missed right at the beginning where all friends are white.

@nochtrollsegundoh3220

Ай бұрын

But that may be a coincidence, not having a non-white friend does not have to be related to racism. She is racist towards people who are different from her and less wealthy, there is no more talk

@Zestieee

Ай бұрын

but it does look out of place on a show in 2024 to only see white characters like that. i'm shocked i didn't actually notice it while watching

@drowned4432

Ай бұрын

​@@Zestieee i didnt notoce it either and god do i feel like a massive asshole. This episode really holds up a mirror to us like, forcing us to realise our own ignorance and privellage (to non poc viewers especially)

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

They seem to make a lot of shows inclusive or multicultural like modern London, but sometimes a character pops out at you, like the soldier-lady in the ambulance/landmine episode being of south-central Asian descent. I do sometimes think that (like the Time magazine article) if current trends continue and more people mix, then a show like this should have a society with mixed-race people that you can't quite tell what their parentage is, so can't fit them into a category.

I thought the "complaining about 2 hours a day" was more a reference to the Gen Z stereotype.

How is it racist that she can't move without the bubble, that's because she hasn't lived without it for ages

@NotAgnor

23 күн бұрын

@@OliverSmithson-ir9fi There’s a deeper meaning. Racist societies are trapped in their own little bubbles, that’s what the bubble enclosing the city represented in FineTime, they’re secluded from the home world with a largely privileged demographic. Her not being able to function without her bubble shows how cut off she is and how she’s lost such basic abilities because she’s been blinded by prejudoce

This is some really great meta-commentary, because as a white guy I'll admit that a lot of these moments went right over my head at first. I didn't realize that the racism was foreshadowed until the end of the episode. But to a black person, these types of aggressions are easily recognized. This episode forces the viewer to examine their own biases, because even if you may not personally be racist, you might still be unaware of racism happening around you, because it's not happening _to_ you. Even Ruby didn't notice the racism until it was literally in front of her face. Also having a 2 hour work shift would be a _godsend_ for us commoners. That doesn't have to do with anything, I just wish I could work for 2 hours and be able to afford my own home.

@LukaRioli

12 күн бұрын

Don't mind me saying this, but not all black people would notice a so-called "micro-aggression." Also, you're forgetting that racists come from ALL ethnic groups, not just white people. 😟 I know us whities are probably less likely to notice racism, probably genetically, but if that's the case, then we naturally can't help it, can we? 🤔 We can only do as much as treat everybody exactly the same, regardless of ethnicity, gender and sexuality and be kind and polite to everyone. 🙂 Also, being cheerful, confident and smiling really helps, too, of course! 😁 Yeah! 😁 Best of luck, buddy! Have a fab day! 😁👍✌️

I've seen some chatter that these are the ancestors of the Kaleds and Daleks. Part of me thinks that would be a really cool, appropriate origin story, but another part of me just wants to see these people sail off and go extinct due to their own incompetence. Which is essentially the end result of racism.

That's because of her I'm not watching the episode again.

It's not just racism but classism, privilege and xenophobia. Coupled with the, obnoxious arrogant insincere positive vibs and obsession with screens and technology that makes it a very despicable society.

@Gothic7876

25 күн бұрын

No wonder the AI that managed their social media grew to hate them.

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

@@Gothic7876 The A.I. also may have created those creatures on Homeworld since they were there too. But according to the computer, there were no survivors.

@Gothic7876

17 күн бұрын

@@sandal_thong8631 That may be the official population count. I bet the deeply racist society didn’t count the non-white population.

I watched the whole episode and didn’t know she was a racist I was like why did she not get in the tardis

"For land's sake" - blood and soil?

they made the daleks look good

I think a lot of this flew over the heads of people. It’s not just about racial segregation it’s a critique about the racism inherent in social media influencer culture. Young, pretty, rich, white and with that recipe, you easily amass thousands of followers who just care about seeing that. These influencers surround themselves with the same and they create a bubble of the same kind of people. Everyone else is only able to look in, even empathize with you as the main character, pay you for your content, but the reality being they will never able to be in their world.

I just assumed this was a jab at online beauty influencers.

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

That too

You're going to pull something with all the stretching you're doing here.

People are way too focused on this agent thing people were so mad about two guys kissing when the bigger issue is that the doctor and that dude were not even the same species.

The vast majority of these "references" are not to racism - like how is not being able to walk without the bubble thing a reference to racism?

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

Yk the bubble is metaphorical. Racist societies live in bubbles and are unable to do basic fundamental and natural human things without the support of the bubble

@billylardner

Ай бұрын

Or remembering she blocked the doctor? How the fuck did you draw "only looks the same because he's black" from that?! Omw

@billylardner

Ай бұрын

"Ricky obeys the Doctor"? Even with the biggest stretch of imagination, that has nothing to do with racism "[Lindsey] looks like fun because she's white"? They're all white

@billylardner

Ай бұрын

I'll quickly add to this chain of comments that yes, I agree that some lines are clear references. I just think you should have focused on them instead, this video could have been a lot shorter

@billylardner

Ай бұрын

@@NotAgnor What do you mean "racist societies are unable to do basic fundamental and natural human things?" - you can use the bubble metaphor and link it to racism (although that is just a dystopian black mirror-esque idea imo), but using being unable to walk is another enormous stretch of the imagination

I know he was still a part of Finetime but do we think Ricky was racist too? I mean he was the only one who was happy to listen to the Doctor and didn’t show any adverse reactions during their interaction…

@NotAgnor

11 күн бұрын

@@joefreeman3087 I think he represents an identical copy of the Doctor but just white, that’s why everybody idolises him because the Doctor has such amazing qualities, but nobody on finetime would like him because he’s black Ricky says he doesn’t really use his bubble much, his has “burst” and he’s not confined to the racist society, he reads up on history etc Lindy still betrays him though to show that it’s not just about race but racists are innately bad people

@joefreeman3087

10 күн бұрын

@@NotAgnor yeah I agree, I think if he’d have survived he would have been the only one to go with the Doctor, and despite his influencer status I don’t think he’d have been able to convince everyone else. The Doctor, Ruby and Ricky would have made a cute trio tbh, seeing Gatwa and Gibson fight over him more is something we were robbed of 😂

What about her cold blooded murder

@NotAgnor

23 күн бұрын

@@OliverSmithson-ir9fi Lindy’s? We don’t know if she did die but what about it? It’s hardly cold blooded

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

She told the A.I. to kill the singer first. Pretty rotten.

What was the blue blood about?

@Hercules_Flexing

Ай бұрын

Also what does SS mean?

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

Blue blood is quite a niche racist term that is about noble bloodlines and stuff, being so white you can see the blue veins. I’ll let you look up SS, just search SS racism or something It was a nazi state

@Gothic7876

25 күн бұрын

Blue blood is a term to refer to nobility, or the upper class. So it’s a hint to what their status was in their society.

@bigshambowski

11 күн бұрын

@@Hercules_Flexing Schutzstaffel, the major paramilitary organization under Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. The SS was responsible for the genocidal murder of an estimated 5.5 to 6 million Jews and millions of other victims during the Holocaust.

Some of this isn't racism, notice how they all look 'pretty' with their bright materialism, their social media personality appearance, no one even looks white and ugly, they've got their 'painting' as Shakespeare would say, their rose-tinted glasses. Censoring what you have to hear, not what you want to hear. In fact I was more disgusted by the cartoon design and bright colours, and cartoon-looking people. In the end I did think, 'why are they all white?' But it was their cake face appearance I was more grossed by. In truth I only came 10 minutes into the episode so I thought the Doctor did the whole 'hello, I'm the Doctor, I'm a timelord,' you know. Alienism- discrimination of non-humans.

what really threw me off here is using the "rings of akhaten" music throughout the whole vid. very off-putting(yeah, no, sorry, bro. its just wrong usage of the music itself). everything else? fine(time) 😂

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

It’s the dark variant of 15’s theme from the ending of dot and bubble!

I don’t care this is way better than chibnalls era by a lot.

I knew when Gatwa was announced as The Doctor they were gonna have some form of rasicm against him in an episode. There were similar moments with Martha, Bill, Yaz and Ryan in their respective seasons but with The Doctor I knew it had to be a whole episode. While Dot and Bubble is not one of my favorites, it definitely was a solid way to introduce The Doctor facing Racism.

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It seemed a few days ago everyone hated this show for its sucky writing. Now we've all gotten used to it like I knew we would, so can we all please shut up?

The video is stretching it with the references. 😆

Yikes

this looks like cancel culture to me, that being said, racism and cancel culture are pretty similar

I doubt many racists would have chosen to watch this episode, so I struggle to see who this message was for. It would have been more interesting had the antagonist been a political leader making questionable judgements/policies with race being the driving factor, like Trump or Priti Patel. This was pretty much preaching by numbers.

@ugolomb

Ай бұрын

As others have pointed out in various discussions, part of the message is how insidious prejudice is (not just racism, there are others forms of prejudice as well, of course): even people who oppose it might miss it when it's right in front of them. Which is an important lesson for those of us who regard themselves as non/anti-racists. We might miss the cues in real life just as we did in this episode. Another point is that supremacism and racism are harmful to the racists, not just to those they act against. These people are basically going to die because of their own racism, not because of racism directed against them. Which is a point that even anti-racists don't always get

@morinomajou

Ай бұрын

In addition to the (very good) reply above mine, it’s also worth remembering that Doctor Who isn’t just for adults! I can see this episode being a really good way to teach older children about racism, as well as teaching younger teens who are just starting to use social media how to spot common dogwhistles used by reactionary groups (like the ‘taming the wilderness like our ancestors’ rhetoric).

@Face2East

Ай бұрын

@@ugolomb I think its great when a white showrunner/writer looks to teach us about blatant or subliminal prejudice in a show of which the hand-picked production main staff of his are a white script editor, white director, 5 white producers, 2 white cinematographers, white casting director, white editor, white 2nd unit director, white production designer, white main camera and dolly operator, both white makeup artists and all the 7 white heads of the art departments. If the episode wins an award it’ll be fascinating seeing all of those faces up on stage holding the award wagging their finger at society. Or maybe they should have approached it from the Morgan Freeman view who famously said “How are we going to get rid of racism? Stop talking about it” But what would he know about it, RTD knows best🙄

taming the wild isn't racest is it it more in the context of fine time I guess

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

I think that's a reference to colonizers or something. It didn't make much sense, after they had been told their whole lives (or since they got to the colony) not to go into the forest.

@morinomajou

8 күн бұрын

It’s a reference to a common eugenicist dogwhistle. There’s a specific type of far-right internet user who idolises a heavily fictionalised version of pre-medieval European history, specifically because they like the idea of a society where everyone is white, women never do anything except have babies, and anyone who isn’t ablebodied or neurotypical is left to die (none of which matches the archaeological data we actually have, but they throw a fit if you tell them that haha). So if you see someone online talk about ‘taming the wilderness like their ancestors,’ there’s about a 99.999% chance that’s what they’re talking about.

So when casting this episode they said, sorry we can’t have any POC in this episode and we can’t tell you why. Sorry but this is b*llsh*t. They looked back at the episode and retrofitted a woke story to create controversy.

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

Being woke is a good thing, look up the definition lmfao It’s very telling that you’re criticising the criticism of racism in the name of dismissing social injustice

@sandal_thong8631

17 күн бұрын

The opposite of "woke" is "sleep" and those who want a white-supremacist, male chauvinist society (or ethnic equivalent in the Philippines or India) want good people to go back to sleep so they won't stop it.

What a stupid show. It's like bad preaching. No one is converted, but it makes the choir happy.

@NotAgnor

Ай бұрын

Tf you on about

@carlparsons8031

Ай бұрын

@@NotAgnor The show sucks. It's bad writing. "White people are racist" is the message, because, hey, it's Disney. And what did we learn today? Disney is racist!

We need Steven back RTD makes these so cringe

@RichardFraser-mn5pe

Ай бұрын

What part of this do you NOT understand??? I say this to the genius l have the thumbs down to.

@redcr33perproductions

Ай бұрын

You seem like the type of person who this episode was particularly directed for

@absolutechap3961

Ай бұрын

Agreed, the 60th was supposed to fix Doctor Who this constant political message crap is beyond a joke

@enzyte9215

Ай бұрын

@@absolutechap3961 this wasnt even noticeable till it was mentioned tho lol and doctor has been policitcal since it started

@bennywarren17

Ай бұрын

Did you not watch Boom...