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I agree Scott, floorplan is great. Love the larger, more flexible use table and the bath minus shower curtain. We prefer the black tank option, this works so well for us! Also love the folding bed leaving room for garage space during travel. Holding out for Volta, this one is staying on the short list of B Vans for us. Great tour and interview, Thank You!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Volta !!

YES!!! Learning a little from across the pond. I like this one. Cheers

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hey F & T

I can dig it. Lots of great stuff inside 👍🏼

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Right on T S M

This would definately be my choice if it had the Volta Power Systems platform! It's the only thing holding me back on pulling the trigger on this one. Currently considering the Travato 59GL. I'm a travel nurse and want to be able to run everyting without the use of a generator at night. Super important for hospital parking lots as well as quiet hours at various locations.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Well said

I am obsessed by this van.. hope it does well, and that the quality is decent! The only thing I really don't like is how much of the side windows are covered, but at least when the slider is open you'll get a real open feeling.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

thanks Anita

@karollisa7022

10 ай бұрын

@anitalauro6728 Me too :). What do you like the most about it?

The Best Promaster build. So awesome.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thx N

I'm loving this floor plan. Thanks for sharing this tour.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Love it! Thanks!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Right on !

Great review. What a thoughtful floor plan!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Love this floorplan. We currently have an Hymer AKTIV, and Airstream has made so tweaks on the original layout. I assume the electrical choice was a price-point decision, but we really like being able to run the AC off of batteries and the underhood generator with autostart. MUCH quieter than a generator. Nice review, Scott!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thx Sam

Glad to see van innovation from Airstream. Also happy to see them build on the RAM Promaster. Love their quality and the 3 year warranty. Needs Volta as you state.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Truth, well said

@gosman949

Жыл бұрын

as soon as they add Volta, the price will increase by $30k!

great video, thank you for sharing!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi John

Very well thought out with beautiful fit and finish. I like this one.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

I agree

This one checks a lot of boxes. Very impressive. Love competition. Good review Scott.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

thx mike

So happy to have our Vitrifrigo C85 featured in Airstreams first Promaster build. That color really goes well with the interior

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

thx Lance

Love this van. Almost makes me want to pull the trigger; definitely one of the best out there. Needs skylight(s) (although pop top comes with one when down, right?), window in the bathroom, skylight in the bedroom area, certainly a top end Volta lithium system and bigger inverter (this is a must have in place of a generator) and one of those brilliant ‘peek-a-boo’ shower/sink setups. Great van.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Great points, Richard

Thanks, Scott! I really like this one! Hopefully, Volta is in the near future! Let's get on that Scott lol Convince them! Keep on keepin' on!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

I’m on it Doris ;)

So tempting

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Nice Van, great video!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting

Love this thing....would like to see a few adjustments before we buy ours: 1). Volta with the ability to run AC off of batteries. 2). I would love to see them integrate something like the Redtail Overland hard sided pop top. and 3). Convection Microwave.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Noted!

Nice overview introduction. I like the no propane! Thanks

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agree with you Richard

If the quality control is good, this is a winner for sure.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Looked quite solid to me, especially as a prototype

Ordered Rangeline from a Canadian local dealer, very convenient, no big price difference like other brand. Perfect design, but prefer cassette toilet, Solis PX style bed. Hope can upgrade to Volta system in the future.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Wow… cool Doc

If this had been available when we bought our Ethos it would have been a strong contender. Like the fact that they built in a 2K inverter with the lithium battery. Running the Microwave without the genny is a big plus. Great review Scott.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Rich. Yeah, smart to have their inverter battery approach until …

@gosman949

Жыл бұрын

Rich they don't have lithium yet on this model.

@richkurtz6053

Жыл бұрын

@@gosman949 Not a Volta size lithium, but it is a 280 Amp Lithium instead of 2- 100 Amp AGM's. It can support the 2KW inverter draw to power the microwave.

Hi Scott, nice review. Since you've lived in your Travato GL for 3 years, I would love to get your opinion on the placement of the bathroom and bed in this Rangeline vs your Travato. I think we can both agree that the only downfalls in this version are the lack of Volta and the size of the fridge.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan for your van tour comments. Needs volta option

Scott, great job! 👍👍👍!!! It's a beautiful van with everything I want. The built quality seems excellent. However, I prefer a 4x4 shorter van like the 19' or 17,' and then I can park at a ski parking lot close to the ski slope without questions.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Very good Jason

Good Morning Sunshine 🌞 ❣️

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Denim !

Our local Airstream dealer finally has two Rangelines in stock (Sept. 2023) one with and one without a pop-top. The big change we saw was a switch to a real black water toilet. It is clearly designed to compete with the standard G model. The base MSRP is only $131K. That's a bargain assuming that's the negotiating starting point. Build quality is better than newer Travatos, but lower than older ones like yours. The huge bed and garage would work better than a G for a couple traveling. A Battleborn lithium system is available as an option, but it doesn't compare to the Volta system. It is a big improvement over the standard AGM battery system however.

@gosmall.livelarge

7 ай бұрын

Thx Steve

I’m going today mainly to check out this Rangeline. We own a 22/23 Travato 59G which we enjoy, despite its problems. But I’m still not sold on the new 59G. So keeping our options open and considering other B vans. We like the floor plan of the 59G and the Rangeline has a similar floor plan. And it’s an Airstream.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

right on

It’s a fabulous van. Just needs Volta. This is also priced competitively or better than others. That surprised me. I figured they would have priced it in the stratosphere. It speaks quality. Aisle seems narrower than your van. (Just thinking accessibility) 😊 Your videos are always informative. Again, thanks.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Well said T D

@gosman949

Жыл бұрын

Travel Dreamer- the reason that it is priced in the $130k range is because it doesn't have Volta. Everyone wants to run air conditioning without generator. When Volta is added, your price will go into the stratosphere!

Thank you for the great video! I do agree that the Rangeline with a full lithium system would be amazing. That said, I know you love Volta, have you had a chance to compare or explore the Renogy lithium systems? I'm looking into the Entegra Ethos 20DL (lithium w/ pop-top) and this Renogy systems boasts "48V - 210 amp hour lithium battery providing 10KW hours of power with a 3,500W inverter," which on paper seems pretty impressive. Would love your thoughts on this!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thx Mr Kim

Very solid looking van. Like people start to removing LP from rv which is great always have problem when looking to fill LP.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Finding LP is super easy. But using chassis fuel is one less thing to worry about for RV systems

That is a super nice implementation of the Travato G floor plan. Really beautiful worksmanship. I don't think it's quite as functional as a G due to smaller freezer, missing jump seat, and I believe the front lounge does not convert to a bed, but this thing definitely oozes quality and thoughtfulness in design, a quality unfortunately lacking most of the time. I fully approve of the elimination of LP in favor of gasoline for heating, and also the induction cooktop.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

You make some great points Z

Like it, especially the bed and the Airstream extra touches. The G seems roomier (kitchen and bath). Did it have any windows that could be opened?

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Yes on windows that slide open

Nice looking van , well done price is reasonable compared to other brands

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agree with you

Travato G for the win.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

GL !

FP is a 10, maybe they could delete gen set, beef up the batteries/3000w inv. and add a under-hood alt. ? just thinking out loud .. lol Thanks for the information, Scott.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Billy

Subscribed! 🔔

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Enigma. Welcome to the GSLL Community of Audience Freinds

Is the heat radiant floor heat? Any plumbing under the van? No raised floor in the midsection like the Solis.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

No radiant floor heat was mention by Airstream rep. 3.5 season van was mentioned in the Walkthrough with Airstream rep, waste tanks with warmers he mentioned

2 weeks ago the Base MSRP was listed as $131,882.00 now it's listed as $147,570.00....WOW! Then, add $11,694.00 if you want the pop top option.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Wow

Hey buddy love your videos! I wonder how 4 season this is? I feel like it's not, no mention of R instalation rating or and all season mentions... any take?

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Brandon, as Justin from Airstream stated, the Rangeline is basically a 3 season rig.

@brandonshowalter983

Жыл бұрын

Didn't catch that, throw it out the window, us northern NYers need it. The ekko seems to be the only go-to and it's currently criminally overpriced. Looking at used travatos w/ generator, worried I won't have enough solar when it matters the most or i would go KL. Safe travels & keep up the great work!

great walk through -love the layout and style. Clean, neat, and less clutter . Can the batteries be expanded to accommodate the A/C usage ? Garage storage area is huge for this B van....Go job Air Stream !

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Stacy. Not sure on batteries

@karollisa7022

11 ай бұрын

@@gosmall.livelargeso, am I understanding correctly, Scott, that the ONLY way to run the A/C is with the generator? You can’t plug into shore power at a campsite and run A/C?

@gosmall.livelarge

11 ай бұрын

@@karollisa7022 Run A/C off shore-power or the generator

@karollisa7022

11 ай бұрын

@@gosmall.livelarge Wonderful to hear this, Scott!! I’ve watched a few videos and got the impression that it only ran on gas, which I wouldn’t want to do in a campground, especially ones with a “no generator” rule. :). Gotta keep my puppers comfortable in the lap of luxury like she’s used to at home base. ;). I appreciate you, and your channel, more than you could ever know!

@karollisa7022

11 ай бұрын

So, I’m assuming that furnace would be the exact same, correct? Able to run off shore power or gen?

Love it. But wondering why they blocked out maybe 60% of that driver side window? It really cuts down the visibility while driving.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Doug. I think the window covering is for when you are camping, not driving. Covering stows away

@dougmanck4149

Жыл бұрын

@@gosmall.livelarge So there are two parts to the window covers? The part that unzips around the part of the window that opens and then a removable piece that covers the entire window? That is a great idea. It just didn't appear to be removable in the video. Thanks

That is a really tempting van and a very attractive price point. I’m checking if the non PopTop could accommodate an occasional co-traveler. Thanks!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hey Bill

@dan-tv

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the size of your co-traveler but there is the option to use a front mattress system to create bedding upfront. Here is the link: lunolife.com/products/front-cab-air-mattress-promaster-van

@liorajacob8094

Жыл бұрын

Check out Panoramic RV from Quebec but they are now selling in the US. Exact same layout but the front table drops down and uses the bench and drivers seat to make an occasional-use bed.

That's a great looking van. In a couple of years, I might have to figure out how to pay for one. In the meantime, I'll continue enjoying my 2018 Pleasure-Way.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Pleasure-Way is a great rig

@TheCountryLifewithColumbusMark

Жыл бұрын

@@gosmall.livelarge I bought mine when it was two years old. Everything works great. My only "regret" is it's not made for winter camping. You'd think made in Canada would be winterized. While I don't care to take it out when the temps are in the teens, I don't mind using it when it's in the high 20s, etc. I do winterize and just use the toilet with RV antifreeze. It works for me. I'm not a full-timer like you. Love your channel. Have followed you ever since I bought my P-W.

Wish it were on a Ford Transit chassis, probably limits space due to the drive train area. But if you're gonna pull 3500 lbs you need a dually in my opinion. Great looking RV though, quite impressive layout

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

ThankS

That’s no rep. He’s the VP of sales. Haha great video

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

My bad. Have you seen this Urban Camping video I did, kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpWhscOLn7fZYLQ.html

Looks really good, Airstream always do a good job. Interior height is pretty low. The description says sleeps 2 to 4, where do the second two sleep? Or is that only on the pop top? Definitely needs to be offered with a lithium package! Solid thinking in opting to not use a cassette toilet, the European bath/toilet design is great especially not having a door opening out, crowding the limited space of a class B. Unsure about the manual awning, do people want this? Unfortunately the Ram is just not as good as the Mercedes, maybe the Ford could have been an option, not as wide but definitely more head room. Loved the stealthy look to it.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Sleeps 4 with the $11,000 Poptop option. Thx for wathcing R R

@Rafael-ri2ft

Жыл бұрын

@@Create_SunShine Good to know, new to this space. Plenty of learning to do!

I'd l0ve to store the table behind the seats, however, I was told by an owner that the leg doesn't come off the table top. Thoughts?

@gosmall.livelarge

9 ай бұрын

Hi Karol.

Can you lay down in the bed without being cramped? What's the length of it? Will it fit a 6' person?

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much

I can think of a couple of problems with this van right off the bat. Who wants a noisy generator in a $200K RV? You already have an induction cooktop, lose the propane and go full electric with LiIon batteres, solar panels and a high capacity (or even a second) alternator. I would have a 24V second alternator and have the coach batteries setup in 24V configuration, 24V inverter, and a 24-12V DC-DC converter to power all the 12V appliances. 24V is more efficient for the inverter. 12V compressor fridge. Truma, AquaHot, Timberline water heater/furnace or even a heat pump perhaps. Truma has an all electric suite of appliances. Airstream is one of the leaders in the RV industry, why can't they come with an better system? The cabinet doors and latches are clunky. Lok at Leisure Vans, Tiffen, others for better cabinet solutions. Also the bathroom has unsightly snapcaps on the plastic wall, that's unacceptable.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts Chris. Couple of clarifications… there is no propane on the Rangeline; heat n hot water from chassis fuel. Rig is MSRP of $131K, which is sorta a deal compared to others. Unit is a prototype which means the many seams in the bathroom will likely go away with production rigs. Appreciate you keeping it real

@dougmanck4149

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you watched a different video but commented here.

Good to see some European concepts being integrated in to the US models. US companies need to step up their quality.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Truth

Hi, Scott! Thank you for a great walkthrough of a great looking Class B RV! I would like to make a standing offer to you to do a walkthrough of my new 2022 Panoramic RV, the first Pano to be built on a 2022 US Ram ProMaster 3500 chassis! I'd also like to make some comparisons between the Ridgeline and the 2022 Panoramic RV. Sliding door entrance: the Pano has three drawers, accessible from the inside or outside, including a garbage can and a food prep extension (not three cubbies). Lounge area: the Pano has virtually exactly the same table with the same three detents on the table extension. The Pano has had this feature for at least three years now. There is a proper shoe cubby and storage under the bench seat. The Pano Wet Bath: has a one time water temperature controller (you only have to set the temperature once). The shower curtain keeps everything in the shower from getting wet (storage cabinet, toilet paper, etc.). The shower curtain also allows someone to take a shower with the doors open, giving them more elbow room! The galley: the Pano has a two burner propane cooktop, a 5.3 cu. ft. fridge/freezer (compared to Ridgeline's 3.6 cu.ft.); the Pano also has a huge pull out pantry and a wine rack! The Electrical System: the Pano has up to 400 Amp-hours of Lithium batteries and a 3,000 Watt inverter (compared to Ridgeline's up to 270 Amp-hour batteries and 2,000 Watt inverter). The Pano also has an AC unit that can run off of the batteries! The Pano's Truma Combi controller can heat air and water with propane, (shore power) electricity or a combination of the two. More comparisons by the numbers: Pano solar panels 330 W (Ridgeline 200 W); Pano fresh tank 35 gallons (Ridgeline 28 gallons); Pano gray tank 24 gallons (Ridgeline 19 gallons); Pano black tank 16 gallons (Ridgeline 12 gallons); Pano warranty five years (Ridgeline three years). The Pano is very competitively priced and, I suspect, has a higher build quality Anyone who would like to follow my Class B travels can do so at the Panoramic Travels KZread channel: kzread.info/dron/QjIAs9Bitub035ZEO3nZ1w.html

@jca3507

Жыл бұрын

I love the Panoramic layout and build quality. Where could it be serviced in the U.S.?

@panoramictravels

Жыл бұрын

@@jca3507 The Panoramic comes with a five year warranty. It can be serviced at many service stations in the US and Canada. The service station (or owner) just needs to contact Panoramic before the work is done.

@Behindthejab

Жыл бұрын

I doubt it has a higher build quality than Airstream. I visit these plants monthly and Airstream has some of the highest standards, innovation and quality in their plants that I have ever seen

@panoramictravels

Жыл бұрын

@@Behindthejab I am not familiar with Airstream build quality. I can tell you from my own personal experience (touring the Panoramic RV factory and now owning one) that the Panoramic build quality is exceptional.

@Behindthejab

Жыл бұрын

@@panoramictravels why post it on an Airstream video of you don’t know their quality then?

No TV in this model? Any prewired for TV?

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Prewired for tv

It seems like you can never get exactly what you want. This is very nice, but black tank versus cassette it a no go for me.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thx Bob

What is the width & length of the garage area under the bed?

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

didn’t measure, but it is 2x my garage storage space, at least

I read on another forum that dealers have preordered 1,000 of these.. no idea if that's accurate but it sounds like there are at least 200 in the pipeline already.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

I think they have a hit on their hands, Anita

Noticed the one van's awning did not cover the sliding door opening but the other did. You want to cover that door opening so it doesn't rain in the van.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agree. That particular unit is a prototype. Justin mentioned full rail on production model. Thx for commenting

@netposerx

Жыл бұрын

@@gosmall.livelarge Hopefully they change it. I installed my awning and went online to see how others were positioning theirs. I can't imagine having an awning but you still have to keep the slider closed when it's raining. I made sure mine covered the entire opening. Works great when it's raining. Make the van so much better too.

Hope they have other insulation like thinsulate in addition to Lizard Skin. 😬

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

You heard Justin from airstream describe the insulation and sprayed it. So I’m guessing it’s pretty thorough from an insulation standpoint. Thanks for your comment

Different opinions, I prefer no carpeting in the cabinets can't clean like a hard surface and can line it with something you can remove

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Alison

Show us the pop top!!!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dee. Poptop was shown briefly at the beginning of the video. Hopefully you caught that.

Nice looking van, too tight in the aisle and headroom for me, my oldie but a goodie Roadtrek 190 with 142k going to have to last me alittle longer!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Wow Carl… 142k on your Roadtrek.. Congrats !

I know it’s a B class but I gotta say it looks tight, maybe it’s the ceiling?! 16:22

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Tony

Please check on the show price for this model. Thanks!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

$132,000 list (MSRP) for the Rangeline

I bough a new Rangeline. I then found out that the window next to the sink was not installed properly. It also turns out that it is Ram's problem, not Airstream. Major disappointment. I now found out that the Rangeliner generator is leaking gas.

Hello Scott, I enjoy your videos, however, I have a few comments that, in my view, will improve quality of your work, though, I understand you may have business related limitations/considerations: - I personally will not buy any vehicle that does not have Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and the tech package that comes with it. It would be great if you add this ACC package to your check list and comment on every future video you shoot and remind product managers to consider it. - I hope you ask slightly more difficult questions, for example: they have aluminum ceiling in Rangeline, metal sucks up heat, it would have been nice to ask, have you guys considered how this impacts heating in winter? - Or, The gentleman says we are first to insulate using lizard skin, makes it more quiet and and insulated. Would have been nice to ask, how much more quieter? Have you done any db (decible) measurements. What is the R factor of this new insulation and how it compares with other RVs. Just a few thoughts. Thanks!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Trying to keep it Simple and interesting to all T9… Likely to have Airstream’s Justin on WuW in the coming months, so you can ask him direclty

@taurusview9

Жыл бұрын

@@gosmall.livelarge awesome, Thank You!

I’m noticing not much head room…I’m 6’0 and my wife is 5’11”, so that might be an issue.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

You will be okay I think for interior clearance. Have you seen this Urban Camping video I did, kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpWhscOLn7fZYLQ.html

Nice! And not on a Mercedes. 👍

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

I concur

Dear Airstream, beautiful rig, decent price point, but who the heck wants a generator???

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Nicely said

Never a fan of black tank flush right next to fresh water inlet…not sure what they are thinking with that..

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Alrighty

@zantetsu8674

Жыл бұрын

But water goes into the black tank flush, not out, so what difference does it make?

@GENECARP

Жыл бұрын

@@zantetsu8674 The potential for someone accidentally hooking up their fresh water hose to the black tank flush.. Just doing that would contaminate the fresh water hose..simple things can be done to minimize that risk…

Airstream just killed the Travato. Nice quality and price.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

It will be a horse race now.. WGO needs to step up maybe ?

👍

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agree

Wish the bathroom was in the back

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Really. Why? Please check out my Staycation video… kzread.info/dash/bejne/oICct5OFdsTbaMY.html

I like the IDEA of storage. But you can't access the bed. You likely might not want to place your belongings outside. So. Thats that.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

That is that! Have you this this vidoe I made on Vanlife… kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKCck8SHlL2ufrA.html

A really well thought out van build Well priced for the quality & name WHY doesn't that rear seat flip open to a bed? Side mounted awning is awesome, should make it an option to remove, to be even MORE stealthy Hiding most hookup! Yeah I like the

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

THX Ms Supp. Appreciate your input always

This is a very ggod start for a new van line.. getting rid of propane -- so all fuel is from the gas tank is great -- running the engine - water and furnace heating - WGO should use the timberline in the Travato.... layout - floor plan is good. as noted -- it needs a model without a generator and with volta electric system -- it would be a Travato L model killer... it is a killer of non lithium G model now.. They should use a Rolef screen in the slider door -- the slider style screens are a problem for many in long term use. the question is also about roof rack availability -- lots of choices today for aftermarket storage for back doors on Promaster. Travato really need to get rid of propane use for one fuel in the coach

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agree with many of your points GEG Steve

I'm a bit surprised that Scott isn't as enthusiastic about the Panoramic RV made in Quebec, as the floorplan which Scott prefers is identical to this new Airstream van and the quality is excellent. Differences I can recall: 1. 35g fresh water tank 2. Rolef screens 3. Bathroom layout inverted and no drop-down sink, same door 4. Wider aisle 5. Integrated cooktop and counter seems a bit longer 6. Propane used for heating, hot water and cooktop 7. Larger compression fridge 8. Pullout pantry, wine bottle slots 9. Front table identical style (expandable) but can drop down to make an occasional-use bed 10. Standard 220Ah battery with 2000w inverter, can upgrade to 440Ah with 3000w inverter (which allows a few hours of a/c) 11. Large sunroof above lounge 12. No pop-top offered 13. Air conditioner is the new Truma (30%more efficient) 14. Pullout garbage, cutlery drawer and counter extension on the side of the kitchen unit. 15. Storage under bench seat for shoes 16. Storage drawers along one side of the garage accessible from the back This Airstream does look great, and anything that can reduce the 2.5 year waitlist for the Panoramic is a good thing ;)

@AnitaNC

Жыл бұрын

The Panoramic is a very nice van, however at least $30K-$40K more expensive and will likely never be widely available, particularly in the used market.

@liorajacob8094

Жыл бұрын

@@AnitaNC I suspect the price you quoted is in Canadian dollars ;) from what I recall the US$ price is similar to that of Airstream. You're correct that it will never be as widely available since they are a boutique shop.

@liorajacob8094

Жыл бұрын

@@AnitaNC there were only 2 used Panoramic RVs sold in the last year. It seems owners tend to hold on to them.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Panoramic makes a fine rig. Thank you for your well thought out comments.

This is going to be a premium price van at a price point that requires a better lithium battery capacity.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Agree

No TV - Deal breaker.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Understood. Thx for watching and sharing. Try another video? 24 hrs living in parking lot … kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpWhscOLn7fZYLQ.html

Airstream needs to offer the Ford Transit chassis. More interior headroom! Stupid dinette seats.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thx Stan

@Behindthejab

Жыл бұрын

Zero chance I would trust Ford to deliver in the quantities needed

Love that there's no propane or TV, the table. Not thrilled about the bed: gotta make it up every night? Kitchen doesn't seem to have much storage - more drawers, fewer cubbies, dog dishes, trash can holders, please, and no carpet in the overhead cabinets. That space to hang clothes is what, 3 inches wide? Ugh. While I love the price and quality of Airstream, I'm disappointed in this one. But appreciate the review. Thank you!

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thx Britt. VHave you seen this urban Camping video I did, kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpWhscOLn7fZYLQ.html

It's not a Dodge. :)

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@dougmanck4149

Жыл бұрын

@@gosmall.livelarge Old habits are hard to change. :)

So it took them 1.7 years to build out a Promaster prototype on a 2021 model. I think the redesign for 2023 is going to create a big problem for them.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Robert

Step seems like a bad idea. I’d forget and trip over it when bed up for sure. Not sure about the bathroom door. Seems it would end up not sliding well. Guessing toilet doesn’t need to be covered so then have to be wiped down. No outdoor shower? That’s a big bummer for the money. I’ve seen better custom built for was less with same features. No solar and no lithium… not interested.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Outdoor shower, seems like a great idea. I have used mine 5 times in four years. All about use-case I suppose. Please check out my Staycation video… kzread.info/dash/bejne/oICct5OFdsTbaMY.html

"Euro inspired"? All Euro vans have two armrests per seat. This one has only ONE armrest. How are you suppose to work with computer mouse and your elbow hangs in the air all day? Seriously? And the bathroom... just compare it to Wingamm's bathroom. Not to mention other things, including the price. US rv industry is brain dead.

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Samuel

The A/C on the roof looks so ugly

@gosmall.livelarge

Жыл бұрын

Hi Julian. You will likely see that same or similar A/C unit on the top of most Camper Vans. Though to make them look attractive.