Meisner portrayed Hitler a lot more accurately than the other guy, but Bruno Ganz was the most convincing.
@nerva-
7 ай бұрын
Agreed, although the situations Ganz portrayed had a limited range (i.e. "Bunker Hitler") while Meisner and Berkoff had to cover a lot more ground. That said, I would have loved to see Ganz instead of Berkoff throughout War and Remembrance.
@67nairb
6 ай бұрын
Berkoff got mixed reviews in his portrayal of Hitler in WAR AND REMEMBRANCE: some people thought he was excellent, others say he was too over the top. Both Guenther Meisner and Bruno Ganz are dead.@@nerva-
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
I thought Ian McKellen did a great Hitler in the TV production "Countdown To War".
@JCMC57
12 күн бұрын
AGREED.
@criscase663211 ай бұрын
After seeing the performance of Bruno Ganz as Hitler all others fail in comparison
@kevinbrown40732 жыл бұрын
Saw the original run of winds of war in 1983 started my love of history
@antonius5212 жыл бұрын
Thanks for those scenes. The Winds of War German Version has cut out all hitler scenes.
@bradanklauer8926
Жыл бұрын
Of course it has 🙄👏
@antonius521
Жыл бұрын
@@bradanklauer8926 They even cut out the Mussolini scenes. What a shit editor 🤦🏻♂️
@bradanklauer8926
Жыл бұрын
@@antonius521 WTF 😂.
@jerseycitysteve
Ай бұрын
Hitler brought death, misery and one half of the nation under Stalinism. I assume the WWII survivors of WWII in 1983 couldn't bear the sight of the monster.
@BjrnOttoVasbottenbjovas
Ай бұрын
LOL
@timburr44534 ай бұрын
I remember watching this...I think 1983? It was a terrific series
@edwardmoul1562 Жыл бұрын
I just wish they would have continued with the whole cast into war and rembrance
@krlezingvozd-sluzbenikanal32093 жыл бұрын
I think Günter Meisner, although a bit stiff at times, was a much better and sinister Hitler than his successor to the role, Steven Berkoff, in War and Remembrance. The latter was playing it as a mere caricature, a yelling buffoon.
@bradanklauer8926
3 жыл бұрын
In War and Remembrance, Hitler was cartoonish, but I could understand what he was saying better, not just the subtitles, but also Berkhoff spoke a bit slower and more clearly. Neither however can match Bruno Ganz's portrayal of Hitler. Though I think Keitel, Halder, and Goering were done better in War and Remembrance partly due to the fact I made the bad mistake of watching War and Remembrance first!😡
@joeleger6488
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Steven Berkoff made a funny looking Adolf Hitler
@rolfagten857
2 жыл бұрын
For this series, he played Adolf in the French comedy Ace of Aces (1982) with Belmondo and in "inside out" (1976) with Telly Savalas.
@krlezingvozd-sluzbenikanal3209
2 жыл бұрын
@@rolfagten857 And also in an episode of 'Churchill: The Wilderness Years'. Pity they didn't invite him back for 'War and Remembrance'.
@siredith8846
Жыл бұрын
Steve Berkoff was better.
@MrThischarmingman22 жыл бұрын
All I can think about when I see this Hitler is that this is Slugworth.
@ricardojordanjordan22163 күн бұрын
Anthony Hopkins,Alec Guiness were good interpretations too
@Freedomlander_1014 жыл бұрын
28:59 Epic line
@whenrabbitsruletheearthd6362
3 жыл бұрын
Thanos: “I am inevitable” *snaps fingers* *nothing happens* Hitler: *has the stones* “I am... GERMANY” *snaps fingers* Thanos: *ded*
@rolfagten8572 жыл бұрын
Ooh wow who played Count Ciano plays in "War & Remembrance" (1988) for von Stauffenberg. and "Hitler" actor Meisner was a German paratrooper during World War II. Anton Diffring was a classy actor.
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
Diffring played Heydrich in "Operation Daybreak".
@williammorris5847 сағат бұрын
Alec Guinness’ voice was closest, his normal speaking voice was a surprisingly warm baritone.
@67nairb8 ай бұрын
43:10-43:25 A lot of people don't know this, but it was Stalin not Hitler who violated the Nazi-Soviet Pact first when he grabbed the Romanian territory of Northern Bukovina in the summer or fall of 1940. That was never agreed to in the Nazi-Soviet Pact; there was no secret protocol of that pact for Soviet Russia to annex territory that never belonged to her in the first place. Bukovina never even belonged to the czarist Russian Empire. Stalin was busily reclaiming territory Russia had lost after World War I; eastern Poland; bits and pieces of Finland (it's a wonder he didn't annex the whole of Finland and make it part of Russia as Czar Alexander I did in 1809); the Baltic States; and the Romanian province of Bessarabia; but not Bukovina. This however, does not justify Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union and the cruel treatment that was meted upon upon it's people by his bloody hands.
@salvadorvillegas3569
8 күн бұрын
@67nairb : Dices eso porque IGNORAS o quieres hacer creer que no sabes que al invadir Bucovina la URSS estaba amenazando la única fuente natural de combustible para el III Reich en Rumanía y en aquellos días de la "Batalla por Inglaterra" ese acto soviético equivalía a poner un puñal en la garganta del III Reich, o sea un auténtico acto de EXTORSIÓN que prácticamente daba por roto el pacto Ribbentrop-Molotov ...¿Tú crees que Hitler evaluando esto, estaba dispuesto a ser apuñalado por la espalda? ...
@ednorton472 күн бұрын
The opening scene is titled "Berlin, March 31, 1939" yet the background photo is of Vienna.
@user-pj2lu2mw7h2 күн бұрын
Ave got winds of war and war of rememberance 1 of the best n longest mini series of ww2
@ionidhunedoara14914 күн бұрын
Mrs. Henry literally fawning over Hitler and associates.
@primusvsunicron13 жыл бұрын
Can you do all of Hitler’s scenes in War and Remembrance please
@jeffdelmo3803
3 жыл бұрын
There is one
@garrisonnichols8077 ай бұрын
38:49 I'm glad they showed this scene. France did alot to humiliate Germany and in a way created Hitler.
@frankgesuele629824 күн бұрын
Ironically if Il Duce had continue to remain neutral,thus following Franco's example,he could have survive the war & it would have benefited Hitler as well as there would have been no need to divert Wehrmacht forces to Italy.
@alejandrovidal6441
4 күн бұрын
Probably and even more, the Italian Monarchy would still be ruling...
@faridlotfi52832 жыл бұрын
43:53 when everyone in the room is thinking what an impossible task he has cooked up but dont dare to say it loud.
@whenrabbitsruletheearthd63623 жыл бұрын
42:50 Hitler just said the nword
@BajanNatureMysticDolt
2 жыл бұрын
😢
@garrisonnichols807
7 ай бұрын
🤣👍
@alfredsnyder4
5 ай бұрын
Damn The Führer Said The N Word
@liamthompson909012 сағат бұрын
Ciano would not say, "Mein Fuhrer". Hitler was not his boss, Mussolini was.
@46thPOTUS2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how many times I laughed at this
@larrywerdeniuk-dm7cj5 күн бұрын
#1 bruno ganz! Anthony hopkins was also very good.
@46thPOTUS2 жыл бұрын
They forgot Rommels conversation with Hitler and the meeting of operation case white
@AudieHolland5 күн бұрын
For Meisner fans, he first played Hitler in Jean Paul Belmondo's *L'as des as* (Ace of Aces 1982). It's a comedy and he's very funny.
@sick99901012 күн бұрын
this TV Serie is so far from the truth in respect how it showing germans that it is no surprise that in particular US people have no clue about Germany.
@pudinxd64282 жыл бұрын
28:59 top 10 epic moments
@67nairb5 ай бұрын
39:56 I think that French general or marshal was either Charles Huntziger or Maxime Weygand, the man who replaced General Gamelin as commander & chief of the French Army just as the Battle of France was ending. He looked really dejected.
@leomarkaable15 күн бұрын
I have been spoiled by documentaries based on actual home movies. How can an actor pull a convincing Hitler out of his hat? Not easy. I saw Bruno Ganz and he gave me the creeps. Good for him.
@kerentolbert54483 күн бұрын
Promises, promises. Treaties are only as good as the principals are willing to enforce it.
@stevenbrrtt22 күн бұрын
Meisner was too young by five years for the role of Hitler and his face way too taut. A lot of Hitler's visitors came away shocked at the rather plain and droll expressionless countenance of the man, esp. if his mustache was overlooked. Not a very impressionable man, except when he gave speeches or went on a tirade. He was far too impressionable then.
@67nairb8 ай бұрын
42:32 yeah Adolf I'm thinking your crazy.
@jerrycurtis709727 күн бұрын
Voice of William Conrad?
@wpl955g9
21 күн бұрын
The narrator? That's William Woodson, arguably most famous as the narrator of The Invaders.
@tarhunta211121 күн бұрын
I have yet to see a decent film of Hitler and the Nazis come out of America.Not one.
@martinmartinez92813 ай бұрын
Grossadmiral Erich Raeder nunca usó bigote, no tenían una foto antes de elegir a los personajes que interpretan 🧐
@BjrnOttoVasbottenbjovasАй бұрын
31:00 this is a great sequence
@scottwest73232 жыл бұрын
This isn't how Hitler was in person listen to him talking in casual talk he's not like that
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
There's audio of him talking with Finnish Leader Marshall Mannerheim, in his normal voice, his voice was deeper than I expected.
@gregdark5203Ай бұрын
His hair is too long. But he’s good.
@Paul-nr3fy6 күн бұрын
❤😂❤❤❤❤
@67nairb6 ай бұрын
They skipped out the part where Aaron and Natalie Jastrow were listening to Hitler's speech in which he declared war on the United States on their radio in Part 7 and the last chapter of the WoW. While it's true we only heard Hitler's voice or should I say Guenther Meisner's voice, it could've been including in this video.
@donallally550419 күн бұрын
Georing was a fool
@vincentthegreat61923 жыл бұрын
14:25
@BimBims27 күн бұрын
Mocking the german empire, france got a comeback 😂
@wiltchamb78263 жыл бұрын
“I know more about isis then the generals do believe me“ - Donald J Trump
@dencamp6685
3 жыл бұрын
Hitler and trump are both insane
@76reliant
3 жыл бұрын
@@dencamp6685 Meanwhile democrats are siding with COMMUNISTS like China...Democrats are TRAITORS to democracy and will be ousted and arrested in due time to save democracy....
@jamestaylor8807
2 жыл бұрын
@@76reliant arrested and executed.
@garrisonnichols807
7 ай бұрын
So how's that vote for Joe Biden doing for ya. Ukraine war refugee crisis and $4.80 gas prices. 🤣👍
@fish9905
2 күн бұрын
The president usually does, president is briefed daily
@tonyantonio895618 күн бұрын
37:44 😂😂😂😂 Coward french 😂😂😂
@marcdelente2456Ай бұрын
il ne ressemble pas à Adolphe Hitler et le montre en permanence en train d hurlé. Bruno Ganz est celui qui l a mieu interprété et en étant très proche de la réalité dans le grand classique la chute.
@cheyenneasiafoxe2925 ай бұрын
Bad history too.Hitler didn't stay at Compiene for the surrender to show his contempt for the French....many inaccuracies in this series.
@timburr4453
4 ай бұрын
Hitler barely stayed in the train car😂. He was in and out
@andyusfca6 ай бұрын
Sadly, he does not look like Hitler
@davidstein137620 күн бұрын
Who's the awful narrator?
@cheyenneasiafoxe2925 ай бұрын
Meissner was a terrible Hitler.....as bad as any English actor who played him. The only good depiction of Hitler was Bruno Ganz in Downfall because he was a German speaking German. Meissner is German but his neurotoc and much too old Hitler here is awful. Berkoff isn't much better but at least he isn't so clearly insane in the way he portrays him though again Hitler speaking English never works....
@timburr4453
4 ай бұрын
most depictions of hitler were awful until ganz. Most were cartoonish. David Bamber in Valkyrie I thought was ok. But he didnt get much screen time
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
For an English actor, I thought Ian McKellen did a good Hitler in "Countdown to War".
@otisotis5869Ай бұрын
This is scary , I can imagine Trump yelling this out after the onslaught of millions and the destruction of our Country.
@timothywade9618
28 күн бұрын
It’s his fantasy and the fantasy of his sycophants.
@davidcooper7501
25 күн бұрын
Moronic comment.
@commandingjudgedredd1841
11 күн бұрын
Oh, I don't know. Seems your Biden is doing quite the job.
@ednorton47
2 күн бұрын
Biden is the militarist and warmonger.
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_LoverАй бұрын
Reminder to you Hitler lovers, Germany lost the war real bad. So trying to bring him back won't work.
@salvadorvillegas3569
8 күн бұрын
@Star_Gazing_Coffe_Love: Lo que sucede es el solo hecho de escuchar su nombre a sus enemigos los hace kgarse de miedo ....¡¡¡incluído VOS!!!
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover
8 күн бұрын
@@salvadorvillegas3569 Hitler is dead..
@ednorton47
2 күн бұрын
@@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover Yes. Since 1962.
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover
Күн бұрын
@@ednorton47 1945.
@Lord_HawHaw9 күн бұрын
Hate how they always have Hitler screaming or an affect like he’s giving a speech.
Пікірлер: 119
Meisner portrayed Hitler a lot more accurately than the other guy, but Bruno Ganz was the most convincing.
@nerva-
7 ай бұрын
Agreed, although the situations Ganz portrayed had a limited range (i.e. "Bunker Hitler") while Meisner and Berkoff had to cover a lot more ground. That said, I would have loved to see Ganz instead of Berkoff throughout War and Remembrance.
@67nairb
6 ай бұрын
Berkoff got mixed reviews in his portrayal of Hitler in WAR AND REMEMBRANCE: some people thought he was excellent, others say he was too over the top. Both Guenther Meisner and Bruno Ganz are dead.@@nerva-
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
I thought Ian McKellen did a great Hitler in the TV production "Countdown To War".
@JCMC57
12 күн бұрын
AGREED.
After seeing the performance of Bruno Ganz as Hitler all others fail in comparison
Saw the original run of winds of war in 1983 started my love of history
Thanks for those scenes. The Winds of War German Version has cut out all hitler scenes.
@bradanklauer8926
Жыл бұрын
Of course it has 🙄👏
@antonius521
Жыл бұрын
@@bradanklauer8926 They even cut out the Mussolini scenes. What a shit editor 🤦🏻♂️
@bradanklauer8926
Жыл бұрын
@@antonius521 WTF 😂.
@jerseycitysteve
Ай бұрын
Hitler brought death, misery and one half of the nation under Stalinism. I assume the WWII survivors of WWII in 1983 couldn't bear the sight of the monster.
@BjrnOttoVasbottenbjovas
Ай бұрын
LOL
I remember watching this...I think 1983? It was a terrific series
I just wish they would have continued with the whole cast into war and rembrance
I think Günter Meisner, although a bit stiff at times, was a much better and sinister Hitler than his successor to the role, Steven Berkoff, in War and Remembrance. The latter was playing it as a mere caricature, a yelling buffoon.
@bradanklauer8926
3 жыл бұрын
In War and Remembrance, Hitler was cartoonish, but I could understand what he was saying better, not just the subtitles, but also Berkhoff spoke a bit slower and more clearly. Neither however can match Bruno Ganz's portrayal of Hitler. Though I think Keitel, Halder, and Goering were done better in War and Remembrance partly due to the fact I made the bad mistake of watching War and Remembrance first!😡
@joeleger6488
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Steven Berkoff made a funny looking Adolf Hitler
@rolfagten857
2 жыл бұрын
For this series, he played Adolf in the French comedy Ace of Aces (1982) with Belmondo and in "inside out" (1976) with Telly Savalas.
@krlezingvozd-sluzbenikanal3209
2 жыл бұрын
@@rolfagten857 And also in an episode of 'Churchill: The Wilderness Years'. Pity they didn't invite him back for 'War and Remembrance'.
@siredith8846
Жыл бұрын
Steve Berkoff was better.
All I can think about when I see this Hitler is that this is Slugworth.
Anthony Hopkins,Alec Guiness were good interpretations too
28:59 Epic line
@whenrabbitsruletheearthd6362
3 жыл бұрын
Thanos: “I am inevitable” *snaps fingers* *nothing happens* Hitler: *has the stones* “I am... GERMANY” *snaps fingers* Thanos: *ded*
Ooh wow who played Count Ciano plays in "War & Remembrance" (1988) for von Stauffenberg. and "Hitler" actor Meisner was a German paratrooper during World War II. Anton Diffring was a classy actor.
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
Diffring played Heydrich in "Operation Daybreak".
Alec Guinness’ voice was closest, his normal speaking voice was a surprisingly warm baritone.
43:10-43:25 A lot of people don't know this, but it was Stalin not Hitler who violated the Nazi-Soviet Pact first when he grabbed the Romanian territory of Northern Bukovina in the summer or fall of 1940. That was never agreed to in the Nazi-Soviet Pact; there was no secret protocol of that pact for Soviet Russia to annex territory that never belonged to her in the first place. Bukovina never even belonged to the czarist Russian Empire. Stalin was busily reclaiming territory Russia had lost after World War I; eastern Poland; bits and pieces of Finland (it's a wonder he didn't annex the whole of Finland and make it part of Russia as Czar Alexander I did in 1809); the Baltic States; and the Romanian province of Bessarabia; but not Bukovina. This however, does not justify Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union and the cruel treatment that was meted upon upon it's people by his bloody hands.
@salvadorvillegas3569
8 күн бұрын
@67nairb : Dices eso porque IGNORAS o quieres hacer creer que no sabes que al invadir Bucovina la URSS estaba amenazando la única fuente natural de combustible para el III Reich en Rumanía y en aquellos días de la "Batalla por Inglaterra" ese acto soviético equivalía a poner un puñal en la garganta del III Reich, o sea un auténtico acto de EXTORSIÓN que prácticamente daba por roto el pacto Ribbentrop-Molotov ...¿Tú crees que Hitler evaluando esto, estaba dispuesto a ser apuñalado por la espalda? ...
The opening scene is titled "Berlin, March 31, 1939" yet the background photo is of Vienna.
Ave got winds of war and war of rememberance 1 of the best n longest mini series of ww2
Mrs. Henry literally fawning over Hitler and associates.
Can you do all of Hitler’s scenes in War and Remembrance please
@jeffdelmo3803
3 жыл бұрын
There is one
38:49 I'm glad they showed this scene. France did alot to humiliate Germany and in a way created Hitler.
Ironically if Il Duce had continue to remain neutral,thus following Franco's example,he could have survive the war & it would have benefited Hitler as well as there would have been no need to divert Wehrmacht forces to Italy.
@alejandrovidal6441
4 күн бұрын
Probably and even more, the Italian Monarchy would still be ruling...
43:53 when everyone in the room is thinking what an impossible task he has cooked up but dont dare to say it loud.
42:50 Hitler just said the nword
@BajanNatureMysticDolt
2 жыл бұрын
😢
@garrisonnichols807
7 ай бұрын
🤣👍
@alfredsnyder4
5 ай бұрын
Damn The Führer Said The N Word
Ciano would not say, "Mein Fuhrer". Hitler was not his boss, Mussolini was.
I don’t know how many times I laughed at this
#1 bruno ganz! Anthony hopkins was also very good.
They forgot Rommels conversation with Hitler and the meeting of operation case white
For Meisner fans, he first played Hitler in Jean Paul Belmondo's *L'as des as* (Ace of Aces 1982). It's a comedy and he's very funny.
this TV Serie is so far from the truth in respect how it showing germans that it is no surprise that in particular US people have no clue about Germany.
28:59 top 10 epic moments
39:56 I think that French general or marshal was either Charles Huntziger or Maxime Weygand, the man who replaced General Gamelin as commander & chief of the French Army just as the Battle of France was ending. He looked really dejected.
I have been spoiled by documentaries based on actual home movies. How can an actor pull a convincing Hitler out of his hat? Not easy. I saw Bruno Ganz and he gave me the creeps. Good for him.
Promises, promises. Treaties are only as good as the principals are willing to enforce it.
Meisner was too young by five years for the role of Hitler and his face way too taut. A lot of Hitler's visitors came away shocked at the rather plain and droll expressionless countenance of the man, esp. if his mustache was overlooked. Not a very impressionable man, except when he gave speeches or went on a tirade. He was far too impressionable then.
42:32 yeah Adolf I'm thinking your crazy.
Voice of William Conrad?
@wpl955g9
21 күн бұрын
The narrator? That's William Woodson, arguably most famous as the narrator of The Invaders.
I have yet to see a decent film of Hitler and the Nazis come out of America.Not one.
Grossadmiral Erich Raeder nunca usó bigote, no tenían una foto antes de elegir a los personajes que interpretan 🧐
31:00 this is a great sequence
This isn't how Hitler was in person listen to him talking in casual talk he's not like that
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
There's audio of him talking with Finnish Leader Marshall Mannerheim, in his normal voice, his voice was deeper than I expected.
His hair is too long. But he’s good.
❤😂❤❤❤❤
They skipped out the part where Aaron and Natalie Jastrow were listening to Hitler's speech in which he declared war on the United States on their radio in Part 7 and the last chapter of the WoW. While it's true we only heard Hitler's voice or should I say Guenther Meisner's voice, it could've been including in this video.
Georing was a fool
14:25
Mocking the german empire, france got a comeback 😂
“I know more about isis then the generals do believe me“ - Donald J Trump
@dencamp6685
3 жыл бұрын
Hitler and trump are both insane
@76reliant
3 жыл бұрын
@@dencamp6685 Meanwhile democrats are siding with COMMUNISTS like China...Democrats are TRAITORS to democracy and will be ousted and arrested in due time to save democracy....
@jamestaylor8807
2 жыл бұрын
@@76reliant arrested and executed.
@garrisonnichols807
7 ай бұрын
So how's that vote for Joe Biden doing for ya. Ukraine war refugee crisis and $4.80 gas prices. 🤣👍
@fish9905
2 күн бұрын
The president usually does, president is briefed daily
37:44 😂😂😂😂 Coward french 😂😂😂
il ne ressemble pas à Adolphe Hitler et le montre en permanence en train d hurlé. Bruno Ganz est celui qui l a mieu interprété et en étant très proche de la réalité dans le grand classique la chute.
Bad history too.Hitler didn't stay at Compiene for the surrender to show his contempt for the French....many inaccuracies in this series.
@timburr4453
4 ай бұрын
Hitler barely stayed in the train car😂. He was in and out
Sadly, he does not look like Hitler
Who's the awful narrator?
Meissner was a terrible Hitler.....as bad as any English actor who played him. The only good depiction of Hitler was Bruno Ganz in Downfall because he was a German speaking German. Meissner is German but his neurotoc and much too old Hitler here is awful. Berkoff isn't much better but at least he isn't so clearly insane in the way he portrays him though again Hitler speaking English never works....
@timburr4453
4 ай бұрын
most depictions of hitler were awful until ganz. Most were cartoonish. David Bamber in Valkyrie I thought was ok. But he didnt get much screen time
@edlawn5481
Ай бұрын
For an English actor, I thought Ian McKellen did a good Hitler in "Countdown to War".
This is scary , I can imagine Trump yelling this out after the onslaught of millions and the destruction of our Country.
@timothywade9618
28 күн бұрын
It’s his fantasy and the fantasy of his sycophants.
@davidcooper7501
25 күн бұрын
Moronic comment.
@commandingjudgedredd1841
11 күн бұрын
Oh, I don't know. Seems your Biden is doing quite the job.
@ednorton47
2 күн бұрын
Biden is the militarist and warmonger.
Reminder to you Hitler lovers, Germany lost the war real bad. So trying to bring him back won't work.
@salvadorvillegas3569
8 күн бұрын
@Star_Gazing_Coffe_Love: Lo que sucede es el solo hecho de escuchar su nombre a sus enemigos los hace kgarse de miedo ....¡¡¡incluído VOS!!!
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover
8 күн бұрын
@@salvadorvillegas3569 Hitler is dead..
@ednorton47
2 күн бұрын
@@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover Yes. Since 1962.
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover
Күн бұрын
@@ednorton47 1945.
Hate how they always have Hitler screaming or an affect like he’s giving a speech.
Da sind geschichtliche Fehler drin ohne Ende ☝️