Gotta love how Big Red Button gets tasked with redesigning Sonic and their first idea was "let's do Crash Bandicoot." Then when SEGA shot that down, their next idea was "OK, let's just do Sonic again."

@kirby12crystals20

8 ай бұрын

Gotta love Sega and their stupid decisions

@masterprick1

8 ай бұрын

​@@kirby12crystals20Why would preventing them from making their mascot unrecognizable stupid?

@ElectrikStatik900

8 ай бұрын

​@@masterprick1 How come Sega restricting what Big Red Button can do and forcing them to make the characters just look like the originals but with sports tape on them isn't stupid to you?

@masterprick1

8 ай бұрын

@@ElectrikStatik900 Because that would affect how recognizable the character is and would have a direct impact on sales. If you want to criticize Sega for something, it should be for how they forced Red Button to change development mid production for a weaker console.

@genyakozlov1316

8 ай бұрын

@@masterprick1 Not just weaker but the one the engine already in use wasn't compatible with

Sonic 4 Saturn: gets cancelled Sonic 4 EP 1 & 2: I'M STILL LIVIN'!

Even if you somehow missed one or two projects, I don't think it matters. This is easily the most comprehensive collection of cancelled Sonic projects out there on KZread. You should be extremely proud! Fantastic job!

@dravenmartinez6311

8 ай бұрын

Hey pigpen can you do a sonic iceberg explained

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so so very much! That means a lot to me!

@ljproductions4026

5 ай бұрын

@@dravenmartinez6311HELL NO WHY WOULD YOU WANT AN ICEBERG OF SONIC THATS JUST HORRIBLE!!

@dravenmartinez6311

5 ай бұрын

@ljproductions4026 it's cool also many other people made others

@phillipcurtisiii5789

5 ай бұрын

@@ljproductions4026mmmmm

Dude, I took too many spindash worths of salt, I have an entire factory now.

@Jetter06

6 ай бұрын

This is one of the best comments on this video 🤣

Sonic Mars 32x "demo gameplay" is actually a mock-up made on Amiga computer by Chris Senn. No actual playable prototype was ever made.

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thats actually really cool! Some of the websites that go over sonic mars history need to be updated cause a lot of them said it was a prototype lol

If I had a nickel for every canceled sonic game thats name was sonic extreme, I would have three nickels, that’s not that much, but it’s weird that it happened three times

@cingkrazy1412

26 күн бұрын

@GuchuPunton-id9sk oops

Nitrome took Sonic day and made into Leap Day which is a really fun game even without sonic in it. I used to play Leap a day quite consistently back then and if I knew the game was originally a sonic game I would have been blown away.

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Its awsome they got there work out into the world in some fashion! But it still sucks sonic day wasnt every released, that would have been so cool!

My headcannon is that the word "Extreme" and its variations is a FORBIDDEN word for any future Sonic title. As if the idea of putting "Extreme" in the title is an omen for it to be cancelled later on. A curse, if you will.

@YeomasBros.2008

7 ай бұрын

Ehh the first attempt was dead on arrival anyway

With Sonic X, technically the original pitch was “canceled” since it was shown to take place on Mobius (or “Sonic’s World” as it was called in the anime) due to the population of Station Square having anthro characters. Most of the pilot was reused in the Sonic X Japanese opening “Sonic Drive.” Of course the main thing people remember about this pilot was the radical redesign of Super Sonic which became the infamous Nazo character which of course was reimagined as the main antagonist in ChakraX’s The Power of Nazo and Nazo Unleashed fan films as well as the canceled sequel Wrath of Nazo.

@RobsonRoverRepair

8 ай бұрын

Goes without saying.

@SurfyManx

7 ай бұрын

Nazo was not in the original pilot. He was actually in the 2nd pilot which has the same story as the final show

@bhgameman

4 ай бұрын

But in the same trailer they had regular Super Sonic? I think the white form is something else.

@carso1500

Ай бұрын

​@@bhgamemanit's confirmed it was just an early design of super Sonic by the creators of the anime

@bhgameman

Ай бұрын

@@carso1500 That doesn't make sense. In the same animation you SEE regular Super Sonic, it wouldn't make sense at all for them to show off SS and then cut to this Form the way they did unless it was something else they were going to use at some point. Where did you see this information?

You could honestly do a whole video on canceled archie sonic projects alone from all the different stories that didn't see print and never will. great work on this redux btw

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you! And thank you again for helping me list all of the unprinted media for sonic! Also going over archis lost story's would be awsome!!

@summersetbanjo7440

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 That would be a lot of fun! Also fun fact Chris Sean of Sonic X-treme also worked on Sonic Origins and Synergy as a member of Big Red Button. Dude just doesn't have good luck with Sonic projects.

This is probably one of the best Sonic related videos I have ever watched. I was so surprised to hear and find out there was canceled Sonic stuff I had never known about before.

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! It took me a very long time to create this video so im glad you enjoyed it!!

This video needs more people to see it, the length, the editing, and all the effort that went into this needs to be appreciated

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

That means a lot to me! Hopfully more people will see it over time!

@STICKOMEDIA

8 ай бұрын

also was not expecting my friend Ynox's Unleashed port to be featured, awesome inclusion, I myself have been trying to work on a Unleashed DS fan game (only planned for PC as of now, maybe DS eventually), been taking a hiatus from the project, but I hope to one day finish what I set out to do @Jetter06 ​@@Jetter06

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

@@STICKOMEDIA thats sounds amazing!! I hope your DS project makes its way to a full release because that would me so cool!! and please tell Ynox that they have done some amazing work!!

@STICKOMEDIA

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 👍will do

One thing you missed is that the concept for "sonic day" was later reused by nitrome for their own original game called "leap day" with the same premise and gameplay as sonic day

@felixorozco4055

4 ай бұрын

Leap day came before. They were doing a Sonic verdion of it. Leap Day later received high budget sequels though.

37:18 Sega, if you want to surpass Mario, this is NOT, and I repeat, *NOT* a step in the right direction. How the hell do you turn down something as good as this?!

@SugarMama98-qb2td

5 ай бұрын

Ugh! Okay! Dude! Sega surpass Nintendo. Geez!

very good video, I didnt expect this quality from such a small channel, you should have alot more subscribers

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I try my best to put as much quality as i can into what i make so that means a lot to me!

This is an insane amount of effort. I hope this blows up!

19:58 There is actually no in-game footage for Sonic Mars. The videos you can see here are merely mockups made on an Amiga back in the day.

I rarely ever comment but I have to give you your props. This was fascinating!

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great job with the video! Just a fun fact, you actually missed a cancelled Sonic game but I dont blame you. This game is called Sonic and the Level Creator. This game had a Sonic Official Level Maker that used Sonic 1 assets and even had an exclusive Zone 7 added to it that seemed more a Sonic CD zone in terms of style with a Sonic 4 theme song. You can search it on KZread to get more information :) Either way great job with the video!

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

No flippin way, 😅 i have spent almost 3 months getting this damn directors cut created and your telling me i just missed one if the coolest most obscure games that sonic has ever had??? Imma spin dash into some spikes i swear lmao On a serious note im glad you enjoyed the video! And thank you so much for telling me about this sonic level maker! Imma make a whooooole video on it mark my words lol

@SonicStation

8 ай бұрын

You are welcome! This Sonic and the Level Creator game was made on Flash by the way. Despite there being many Flash preservation projects from both Sonic Flash Games and Sonic Flash Websites (Microsites), Sonic and the Level Creator is one of those games that was never preserved and unfortunately last time I checked it could not be played, which is a shame. Either way as far as I recall now this is the only Sonic game you missed out on so great job! If you ever need some help with video topics feel free to reach out and I will gladly help out! Have a good rest of a day!

@LogicLeftTheGame

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 You could simply do another video talking about that project alone so you don't need to redo the video for the third time.

@STICKOMEDIA

8 ай бұрын

​@@Jetter06might have to do a small video on it lol

@SonicStation

8 ай бұрын

​@@LogicLeftTheGameHe is about to do the Director's Cut Plus DLC of the video 🤣

Getting major nostalgia for these unreleased games and shows 😅😂 Amazing video, love your enthusiasm!

That would be awful if SegaPede were relased in France because "Sega Pede" means litteraly "Sega Fag".

Sega is a company defined on its bad decisions

@TimmyTheTinman

2 күн бұрын

It’s a miracle that the company hasn’t gone under, and they almost did in 2015. Sonic was on the path of extinction before the movie saved it and brought it back to relevance

This was a fun watch. I can’t imagine how much time it must’ve took to make this video, so nice job! I didn’t know fans actually revived the Sonic Underground Archie pitch, so that was cool

@Jetter06

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yeah to this date this was the biggest project ive ever created and it took almost 3 months to get it finished which was insane!

As an extra add on, Sonic Synergy was being built on the latest version of the Cryware Engine, which was not compatible with the Wii U. Essentially, Red Button had to do the game from scratch with a new engine with a tight deadline.

@felixorozco4055

4 ай бұрын

Also, edit: The Tangle and Whisper boxset is not from Archie, but from the recent IDW line.

I absolutely love stuff like this, cancelled games are so interesting, and sonic is pretty cool, W video

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I plan to make more videos like this in the future so I hope you enjoy them as well!!

Now that I think about it. sonic has more cancelled games than published games.

Great video dude. You even mention the *Sonic SATAM game* that I don't see a lot of other channels even mention. That game would of started an interesting line of games if it did get released. Good research on your part 👍

Thank you so much for making this definitive version of sonic cancellation projects, I really appreciate what you done to explain these contents that never saw the light of day, you deserve a like.

@Jetter06

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words! It means a lot to me!

@yousefslimani99

5 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 you’re welcome 😉 I appreciate anybody who keeps supporting my fav video game character of all time, sonic was really a lot to me when it comes to video game enjoyer

I rarely share stuff with friends but this is so high-effort and thorough it deserves it

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!! Thats means a lot to me!!

Moral of the story is if you’re working on a Sonic game that has some form of the word “extreme” in it, quit while you’re ahead

I'll admit, some of the omissions in the original cut did irk a little, so I'm glad you doubled down and made this even more comprehensive.

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Yeah Im happy I went back and re did this video, im very proud of how the directors version turned out!

Awesome video I’m already halfway and I’m loving it I’m going to watch all of it

3:30 Sonic Origins being the better way to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles when compared to Sonic 3 Complete is debatable.

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

I completely agree! I didnt mean that sonic 3 complete wasnt better then orgins, i meant that there are easier and more accessible ways of playing it for people since not everyone wants to use roms and emulators and or go out to find a flash cart

@ninstars

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 In that case it makes sense.

Absolutely amazing video with an immense amount of work put into it. You deserve way more subs and likes and views. Absolute beautiful amount of effort 🎉🎉🎉

@Jetter06

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! Your kind words mean the world to me!!

THE KING IS BACK YET AGAIN SLAY KING

Fun fact PAC Mania is not actually isometric it’s in cavilar due to its more straight appearance than diagonal .

You are so underrated, you definitely get my subscribe. Keep it up!!!

@Jetter06

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!!

I love this i was watching the original video then i saw this in my recommended and i had to watch this version I'm subscribing

FREE RIDERS WAS GOING TO HAVE A WII PORT WHAT??? EDIT: Also apparently the Gens Wii port got turned into Colors but I don't have a solid source on that

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Yeah people mentioned a possible generations wii port but i couldn't find anything offical on that, im pretty sure they were just being made at the same time and they borrowed elements from one another but dont hold me to that im just speculating

@AccelerateHedge

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 I see.

i sense a pattern, "this is a cool idea and sega said no/couldn't do it in time"

(EDIT: Keeping this comment up for the algorithm)

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Actually, I didnt this time! There is two ways to spell cancelled! 1) canceled [this is the US version 2) cancelled [ This is the UK version I honestly just perfer the UK version of the word so I spelled it that way instead this time, 🤣 trust me im not about to miss spell that word a second time

@Change51

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 I’m so sorry I didn’t know that there were different spellings I looked up right after typing that comment I feel so dumb 😭

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

@@Change51 its all good! No worries!

Knuckles Chaotix was also going to get a port on the Sonic Gems Collection. Also I don't remember which issue it was but in the Archie Comics around 1997 or so, In an interview with Tails writen toward the back of the comic. He mentioned a game called Virtua-Sonic which was in the works. I wonder if this is a long lost game or if it turned into something like Sonic R or Sonic Ride.

@sonicroc237

8 ай бұрын

*Correction: Virtua Sonic was mentioned in Archie Sonic Issue 36 (And Tails Wasn't Writing it.) The Release date was said to be Winter 96 and I would have come out for the Saturn.

Wow, I learned a lot from this video.

expectative: TON OF SONIC GAMESSSSS reality: *da way*

It's depressing how much wasted potential many of these titles had, and it goes to show how imperfect we are as humans

incredible video, subbed and liked

@Jetter06

29 күн бұрын

Thank you!!! You support is appreciated!!

There is a sonic x-treat fan project on game jolt, it’s made with unity, but is still very good

1:28:05 Japanese/French Translator here. For anybody wondering about volume 2... yeah there's only 11 pages that are actual comics in it. The rest is a game guide. I read through it and the comics are mainly sonic/knuckles doing a tiny bit of remenscing and that's it. Imo it's not really worth translating but I could throw out a google doc with the translation if people really want it.

Seems like segas their own worst enemy

Uncut peak? Now we really eating good tonight

I'm rewatching but can't tell what I miss or if I'm just a fucking nerd that knows too much sonic

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Lmao, well this new video adds info to several entrys, fixes spelling mistakes and other issues, and adds a whoooole bunch of new entry's that were not in the orginal! Like the supposed sonic 4 for the saturn, sonic free riders for the wii, the offical sonic webcomic, and so on and so forth lol

Popful Mail (or however you spell it) + Sonic physics + Sonic style = heck yeah!

For Sonic Underground (OH BOY I have Watched a few episodes from a Sonic 90s TV series collection

Sonic “Crackers” is actually called Sonic Clackers. Due to a translation error, it was accidentally called Crackers. Clackers are the toys that has like one string with 2 balls connected to the end. It was supposed to be like 2 characters with a clacker. Sort of how the physics worked in the final version of Knuckles Chaotix. [Info from Big Sleeter btw you should watch his content]

Great intresting video, defenetly a bit more acurate information than the last one, however as one of the 4 ppl in the world that like sonic 4 I need to say that only ep2 was a comercial failure, ep 1 sold 1milion copies and at the time of its release recived favorable reviews. If you see "some call me jhonhy" one of his first videos is a sonic 4 review and I think he liked it at the time.

"sonic 3 AIR is the defenitive way to play S3AK" me with an emulator-

Sonic day reminds me a lot of the nitrome game Leap day. They play mostly the same. It is similar to it’s act and day system.

@chibiinu1509

6 ай бұрын

I may sound crazy but i think i have a theory. Sonic day was reused for Leap day. But hey, that is just a theory, a canceled game theory. Thanks for reading.

sonic 4 ep 2 wii was canceled cuz nintendo didn't allow the file size for the wii ware games to exceed a certain amount, it was impossible to fit the game for ep 1 they had to remade the music in MIDI so they can fit the game in the file size limit

This is just my opinion, but I think sonic 3D blast should’ve been called sonic 32X and released on the 32X Edit: I made this when I was like 10 minutes into the video and then it turns out there was a canceled sonic game called sonic 32X so never mind about the last paragraph I said about sonic 3-D blast

I remember playing Sonic Runners. That game was fun and cute.

A prototype for THE Sonic 4 would be a huge deal.

@Jetter06

4 ай бұрын

For real! Imagine seeing a true 2d sonic game on the Saturn that would continue where sonic 3&K ended!

Sonic Boom Rise Of Lyric is the saddest gaming story I've ever heard. There was so much potential, and it was scrambled by SEGA themselves.

Man Sega should bring back Sonic Orgins and Sonic Synergy and hire the original development team again and give them the time they need to make these games extremely great and extremely awesome and I know Sonic synergy was basically the same thing as sonic orgins with a few changes but still Sega should do smart and good ideas such as bringing these games back

Nice vid

This video reminds me a lot of Sonic 3K a complete version of a product that wasn’t fully completed originally so it was combined

@normalgraham

8 ай бұрын

Your comment reminds me that Mario 2 was Doki Doki Panic in Japan, because that's also a fact that people enjoy repeating

sonic 3 was also considered to have isometric gameplay which may be what that one mockup was for and not actually the later real 3D Blast

37:58 ok so that's why this game feels so familiar, they actually released another game called ''Leap Day'' it's pretty much the same

Aw man, wonder what it would be like in the timeline that got Sonic 4 back then

@Jetter06 thanks for informing about cancellation sonic games 🎮, now I understand what happened to the other games 🎮 no wonder Sega is the second gaming company in the world 🌍

Psssh, we don’t need Mania 2 or Adventure 3. All we need is Sonic’s Schoolhouse 2

The old Movie Sonic design wasn't a publicity stunt. It was actually gonna be used. The on set eye reference prop was of the old design all the first movie's merch aside from books and plushies used the old design, leaked screenshots of early scenes of the film had the old design, they actually were gonna use it. If it was a publicity stunt, the movie wouldn't have gotten delayed.

58:17 ...well, it's funny how the title is ''all canceled Sonic projects" and...those two fan projects from this part was also canceled. Big F.

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Wait wait, misfit pack AND the sonic mania 2 pack both got canceled?? I thought they were already completed

@Vebills

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 Nope...they just released a unifished builds. Misfit pack got canceled almost one year ago, while S2 Mania is missing a lot of bosses and a lot of Stages was not finished, like the Metropolis Zone, Sky Chase with no enemies, Wing Fortress with nothing than the tilesets, and Sand Shower, Wind Ocean and Cyber City was also not finished. Both got canceled :( the misfit ''final'' build is way more buggy than the demos we got in SAGE...

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

@@Vebills dang that sucks! Both projects were so cool, its a shame they didnt get finished

@Vebills

8 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 yea..

I love this video. It is PHENOMENAL. But I do gotta ask, why did you take the Sonic Fanon wiki as your main source for Sonic 4 Episode III? Not tryina judge you or anythin', and that probably IS how it would play, but I'd love to know.

@Jetter06

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Also It was the only source that I could reliably find, some websites had inaccurate info and or not enough, and ive never had any issues with the sonic fanon wiki befor so I mean, i just used the resources avalible to me that I was aware of! Why ya ask? Is there a better sight I could use in the future or look out for when im doing reaserch? If so id love to know for future videos!

I really do wish Chronicles got a sequel. The Gizoids are my favorite thing in Sonic lore and having just Battle and Chronicles talk about their lore and origins kinda sucks.

I really want to see a segapede remake. The concept is pretty good, and there is so many possibilities for power ups. I'ma stop here tho so this don't become a rant

damn, i wish Sonic OVA came back.

Duuuuuude... Segapede and Treasure Tails would've been so damn fun. Their premises sound so promising. Sega really fucked over STI

More Heavy and Bomb erasure 😢

Amazing video. When is the next one?

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

Well the next video is a long play of Sonic Forces! the next BIG sonic video will be next month!

I think that Sonic STI picture was probably die Early concept for sonic 3D blast

So sorry! I only just noticed your comment on the last video. I see you found the game books that I mentioned. It’s not related to sonic but around the same time we got 10 Super Mario, 2 legend of Zelda and 2 lemmings game books too. All were fantastic. There might have been more but that’s all I ever saw as a kid. For the sonic books. I could probably find you scans of the 4 that I mentioned. I noticed you showed them in the pic but didn’t talk about them. They’re super hard to find so it’s no surprise if you missed them. After a decade plus of searching. I actually find the books on Amazon of all places lol but I’m pretty sure I could find the scans on the internet if you wanted them.

Me:Looks at thumbnail Also me:NOOOOOOOOOOOO

If they had just taken the "Sega Rally" codebase, replaced the car with a hedgehog, and made the tracks as long as the CD ROM format would allow.... Because that is what Sonic is. It's a 2d racing game.

Cool

from what i've heard, way back in early 1993, sega wanted to make sonic 3, a 3d game, and that 3d game idea was too obnoxious, so sometime in june 1993, sonic team started working on the sonic 3 we all know and love, which might be why they split it in two. there wasnt enough time to make a full game like that. and that cancelled 3d game idea mightve been Sonic STI, but then evolved into sonic 3d blast.

@SocksFC

8 ай бұрын

Yea I heard that all the 3D sprites in it (title screen, special stages) are leftovers of that

Could You please provide the sources for that whole Knuckles Chaotix related projects? That's the first time I've had heard of it. I was pretty sure, that the only Saturn related Chaotix project was version that run on OG Saturn.

@Jetter06

7 ай бұрын

All the sources are located on the cancel sonic Master list Google doc which is in the description!

47:10 i completely agree with this and i think it would be good

Want a 3D sonic game on the Saturn? Look forward to Sonic Ringworlds!!

In my opinion archie sonic is up there in terms of being One of the most unfortunate. Cancelations in sonic history It was different in the fact that. They put thought and cared into what they made most of the time at least 😅 as a huge sonic fan growing up that wanted every thing sonic they played such a huge role in my life and they will always have a special place in my heart

Why does the thing u said fit pretty well in 13:02 lol

guys "the air" song for windy valley in sonic adventure is the level theme for sonic 3d blast

11:00 HOLY SHIT LOUIS MY FAVOURITE SONIC GAME CAME FROM 2 CANCELLED GAMES

Wasn’t there going to be a third story book Sonic game that involved Sonic being sent to Ancient Greece?

I have a theory that the sequel to sonic chronicles was reworked into either forces or unleashed, forces being the most likely one Both share similarities to the original sequel idea but forces shares more OG: going around the world amassing an army Forces: does that too OG: Taking down the eggman empire in a war Forces: huh, does that too OG: Big bad manipulating things behind the scenes Forces: ...KIINNNDDA does that and unleashed shares some of these too, this could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt tho

Wow the director got cut so many times!

whats the music that plays when u talk about sonic adventure for the saturn?? its such a banger

@Jetter06

6 ай бұрын

Its the game select theme from Sonic Jam! Here is the link to the song! kzread.info/dash/bejne/op1kyLBmaMiydqQ.html

@ALFACEnaosei

6 ай бұрын

@@Jetter06 ty bro!! nice vid btw

@Jetter06

6 ай бұрын

@@ALFACEnaosei your welcome! And thank you for the compliment!

I’ll come back later to finish watching the video, 55:00.

What game is this being played? 8:46

@Jetter06

8 ай бұрын

This was a chaotix mod for sonic mania!

What's the tune playing where you talk about Segapede?

@Jetter06

21 күн бұрын

@@shadowboofgaming9097 its the segepede prototype ost Here is a link to the music! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gpdszbabgZCTc8Y.htmlsi=UrvGQRghRRHI9DvL

Ima be honest if sega kept sonic adventure on the saturn then the saturn wouldn't have fails