Some notes: the Strix G18 was in turbo mode for cyberpunk tests. This is quieter than max fans and made the temps a bit hotter. The other tests were done on max fans on both laptops I believe.

@Zire02

Жыл бұрын

Hey Gizmo, I found the G18 on Amazon sold by HID. I almost got it but cancelled my order after reading some sketchy reviews. So I ordered the m16 instead. Do you know anything about HID? $3100 g18 4080 32GB RAM, 2TB SSD. Not sure if it’s a good buy or not. Would love your opinion!!

@silverpro8356

11 ай бұрын

Alienware laptops are just too unreliable and have alot of QC issues in my experience. Reply

@GizmoSlipTech Is the both brand ram is R1 X8? Also how is the command center? Does both of them support battery stop charging at certain level, such as 70%

G18: GPU and CPU temps the same at 80. M16: GPU cold, CPU cooking.

I wonder if the cooling difference would be alot less noticeable between the scar 16 and 18. I think the design for interior cooling for the asus line up is a bit different then alienwares.

In my experience, maintaining lower GPU temperatures can help extend the lifespan of your machine. If you're considering the M16, you can manage the CPU's power limit to maintain similar clock speeds while keeping temperatures lower. However, it's important to note that running games with a hot GPU can be problematic, as many games use the GPU heavily and not all of the CPU's cores. These CPUs are powerful, and it's unlikely that any game will fully utilize all of their cores in the next 2 -5 years. If you're aiming for a longer-lasting high perfomance machine, it's a good idea to keep an eye on your GPU temperatures. In my case, I've had laptops that lasted up to 5 years with no issues, as long as I kept the vents and fans clean and applied new thermal paste every year. As a general rule of thumb, try to avoid letting your GPU temperature exceed 80 degrees Celsius to ensure your machine runs like a champ

@vmafarah9473

Жыл бұрын

How can you say cpu temp is not important as gpu temp?

@GizmoSlipTech G18 screen seems to be darker than M16, quiet more in CSGO.... or that was the configuration? 🤔🤔

Really interesting the M16 overall I seeing better performance and better thermals on GPU in a slightly small chassis

I like more the balance of the G18, i dont like the 100C CPU spikes on the M16. Hope to see some MSI GT77 / GE78 tests like this.

Were they at the same noise levels? Or is the alienware pumping up more noise to get those temps?

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

M16 a bit noiser. Both at max fans for most of the tests, except the cyberpunk ones I think. The Strix G18 was on turbo fan mode for that one.

My 10 year old alienware had similar thermals. Very hot cpu but cool gpu. Guess that hasn't changed with the new models.

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

They are designed that way because the CPU can take higher thermal limits as indicated by intel manufacturing design specifications.

@wtdlife9554

Жыл бұрын

@@GizmoSlipTech So will this affect the performance of the CPU?

@yukisong1259

Жыл бұрын

@@GizmoSlipTech Hey, Giz. Thanks for making all of these videos. Which laptop would you recommend, the ROG STRIX G18 or Alienware M18? I currently have the STRIX G18, but my laptop has pretty bad backlight bleeding, IPS glow, and some coil whine issues. I'm having a hard time deciding if I should just go with the STRIX or get the M18.

ASUS Strix 18 (2023) I wonder xmp can be enabled on the bios? even if 4800mhz ? so i can use 4800mhz 34cl stiks?

Thanks for the info

Are these at regular settings or are you using the Intel XTU for the Alienware?

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Intel XTU raised power limits. Default alienware caps cpu at 55W, which crippled the cpu. I’m sure they will raise power limits in future software update

@TaxEvasionUS

Жыл бұрын

@@GizmoSlipTech Cool, thank you, I am just debating whether to be the Alienware or Asus, what would you recommend personally?

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

@@TaxEvasionUS both have pros and cons, I do compare them a lot in the Alienware M16 livestream.

@TaxEvasionUS

Жыл бұрын

@@GizmoSlipTech Alright, I will still consider which one, but I am sorta leaning towards Alienware, thanks!

Was really hoping to upgrade to the M16, but those CPU temps are just too unstable and hot for my liking Guess ill just wait till the 4000 gpus go down in price

Please do gt77hx vs m18

GPU temperature is really alot different why ?

Hello, I want to buy a laptop for gaming and I usually connect to my 4k 144hz monitor. Now I'm comparing the Alienware m16 4090 with scar 16 4090. What do u recommend and do u think 13980hx is much worth than 13900hx?

@taixizhang3332

Жыл бұрын

Which has a better perfomance🤣

It looks like a tie but even tho g18 is bigger laptop m16 runs a lot cooler on gpu side just a little bit hotter on cpu side. So regarding that m18 would have greater cooling it is fair to say that m18 wins in the cooling side.

i feel like the intel could get by at 3.5ghz-4ghz max tbh for better thermals in general

Honestly it’s very confusing because the Scar is pulling higher clock on both the CPU and GPU but does the Alienware somehow ends up showing higher average frames? The Asus got better temps too

@oriolb3ch

Жыл бұрын

RAM timings, Motherboard differences and bios tweaking I guess could provide these differences in performance

@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_

Жыл бұрын

Might be some cheap ram that Asus is using

@azamatshaimyerdyen6037

Жыл бұрын

Asus got better temps? Am I seeing different GPU temp on this comparison? Alienware has way low temps compared to Asus here.

@azamatshaimyerdyen6037

Жыл бұрын

@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ yeah also 4800MHZ

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Memory speed differences, maybe?

I think m16 has a better cooling system when it comes to gaming because cpu doesn't get broken easily even if it keeps high temparature but gpu, on the other hand, tends to get broken when thermal's too high

Just barely ordered the g18 today. Itll get in next wednesday hopefully. So pumped.

@niazahmed9535

Жыл бұрын

How is it bro?

@silverpro8356

11 ай бұрын

How you liking it man.

@vlone_slatt3504

11 ай бұрын

@@silverpro8356amazing laptop the screen is hude I love it tho the Gpu on mine gets very hot but it’s pulling 175 watts a lot

@YoungWise2011

8 ай бұрын

@@silverpro8356 Just picked mine up. Things perfect. I really wish the IO was on the back thats my only complaint.

Will the strix g18 come with 4060 as well?

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it should.

Now this gonna be dope

What is going on, the M16 GPU is up to 20c cooler? That's gotta be a faulty thermal paste application, or in this case liquid metal. I'm rethinking the G18 after seeing this. Lol nevermind, the situation is reversed on the CPU side of things.

@blondegirl7240

Жыл бұрын

Ofc CPU will be hot it gets over 80 watt, its insane in games

18inch chasis on G18 and the GPU temps are disappointing. Shocked to see M16 holding up despite shared heatpipes taking heat from CPU.

Why did you show only cpu power consumption of m16?

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Afterburner wasnt working at first. I had to use hwinfo, which is why it works later

Which one make less noise?

@Jalalaburas1979

Жыл бұрын

The m16 I had the strix , also the strix is plastic for the most part . Build quality on the m16 is like a tank

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Both on max fans, the M16 is noiser imo. I haven't meansured with a db meter yet.

im impressed how M16 handle gpu temps, average 15 deg less than bigger asus.

@SpicyCactus

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter how well the GPU is doing if the CPU is a heat casualty.

Hey dude what 16 inches would you get for maximum performance and quiet gameplay. 4K budget. I’m thinking either the x16 Alienware of blade 16

The сpu Temps on the strix g18 are Insanely good compared to the m16

@Aerospatial

Жыл бұрын

G18 has more thermal head room as it's a bigger i guess

@TaxEvasionUS

Жыл бұрын

Not really

@SpicyCactus

Жыл бұрын

​@@TaxEvasionUSlike a 25% difference, so yeah really.

@TaxEvasionUS

Жыл бұрын

@@SpicyCactus Not really

I wish they were actual 4080’s

I wonder if the Ryzen 9 CPU gets as hot as the i9 in the Alienware chassis.

@fernandodiaz3232

Жыл бұрын

Good question

Very interesting benchmark. I have the g16 13980hx rtx 470 version. Honestly the turbo mode is the worst for gaming. It gets less fps ans score than performance mode. I have manual oc my cpu now hits 35k multi score and 2185 single score cpu-z 911 single score. Cpu running most of the time between 5.4-5.6 ghz on all core temps around 85-90c

@mkgriff1492

11 ай бұрын

That's the good thing with the 4070. You can get the max tdp on performance mode. For the 4080 and 4090, you need to use turbo to get 150w.

@hooda24ma

10 ай бұрын

What about CPU power consumption?

@gergelykiss1142

10 ай бұрын

@@hooda24ma depends on game. Can be between 60-140watts

The M16 has better 1% lows so I would say it is the winner. Pushing out more consistent frames. Not by much but they are more consistent.

@daspotjoel

Жыл бұрын

I agree man. Dealing with the massive stutters of the G15 6800m laptop GPU, stability is key. I play games on silent mode just to get stable experience. Peak performance be damned lol

How comes the x16 in gpu heavy scenarios has more fps? I thought asus has bigger specs and better cooling

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Depends on a lot of factors. New deivers, memory speed, and fan profiles all matter a lot. Also, got to make sure all graphics settings are the same.

07:13 100°C

excellent video, I love the design of the Asus and the Alienware but what annoys me is that they are very expensive with our new cooling technologies and still have high temperatures, I prefer to go for the new Asus TUF, HP OMEN or Acer

No music plz

Hello, I have come to your Chanel and have been very helpful GREAT WORK, I have to buy a new laptop for work, I do design stuff like rendering (30%), modeling (30%) and the rest is not demanding things like Microsoft, pdf etc… I have seen all the videos I might be interested and come to this 3 options, will like your input - the asus 18” (RTX 4080), 16" Legion Pro 7 16IRX8H (RTX 4080) and ASUS 16" ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 (Quadro RTX A3000).

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

I’d go Strix G18 for the quality of the display and best buy warranty plans. Not sure about the proart. Not familiar enough with pricing

Alienware got the cooling right this time. Awesome laptop.

@ytac3900

Жыл бұрын

the cpu temp very often go up to 95-100

@Aerospatial

Жыл бұрын

@@ytac3900 true maybe m18 has better temps as it has a bigger chassie, . Will have to see when they test it in future. This comparison is between a 16 inch lap and 18 inch.

How is the real winner 🏆 I still don't understand

CPU temps too high on alienware... No go for me

The gpu Temps on the m16 are Insanely good compared to the strix g18

@npw9648

Жыл бұрын

feel that might be cpu limited as the cpu thermal throttles a bit and gpu doesn't need to work so hard

@lastblueride5

Жыл бұрын

nah look at the cpu temps

@VSN1001

Жыл бұрын

Dude that’s because the 13900hx is drawing 90w.

Temps on M16 is nice.

Undervolt gpu on asus rog scar 18 give you higher frequency 2500..2700MHz with higher performance and lower consumption and temps.

The thermals on the m16 way better , the g18 has many thermal problems . I returned the g18 gets way too hot .

Alienware temperature for GPU is way low, WoW

Nice

The GPU temp difference between these two laptops doesn't seem legit

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

It is surprisingly big gap. The Strix G18 didnt have max fans during cyberpunk test. It wss in turbo mode.

I am going to buy one of them but cannot decide, looks like m16 gets 100C cpu but better cooling on gpu also everyone say asus have bad coil whine also plastic chassis. Which one should I get ?

@AMBITION6176

Жыл бұрын

What did you do because i am confused 😢

@mehmetozturk771

Жыл бұрын

@@AMBITION6176 I've decided to buy the Asus but not yet ordered one, I am trying to get a proper store pickup date

@AMBITION6176

Жыл бұрын

​@@mehmetozturk771 do you know any better laptop in the same price with rtx 4080

@ahmadihsan5652

Жыл бұрын

Legion 😆

Hi guys just to let you know, right now that alienware M16, is on sale for 2199, in best buy, however, GPU's temps on M16 were Low, and TDP very good, in the otherhand the CPU was hot, but Undervolting is an option ;) , just saying, 2199, 200 dollars less, then ypu have to undervolt the cpu... is worth it, I have a alienware r15 2019, i7 9th 9750, with rtx 2060, the 9750 is one of the hottest cpu in laptop, but after 4 years, my AW still working, when I discovered that I was like, ok this laptop will be useless in 2 years, even with undervolting I got 95 C°, so is still working, AW laptops are fucking rude 😀, I hope my homest opinion could help you guys and save some money ;).

What are your thoughts on the temps?? Strix was 15 more than Alienware for GPU, but Strix was 10 less than alienware for CPU.

I am wondering why are we comparing g18 to m16. M18 should be better as it has more space for cooling

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

It was the laptop that was available to buy and get in hand.

I got the 2023 strix G18 4080 version for $1200. Is that a good price and value?

G18: both Temps are stable M16: CPU Up, GPU down Alienware even touches 100°C

@allstargaming2500

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that gonna be a problem? Like 100°C, that's insane however the GPU is actually cool. How is that possible?

@sampadkar19

Жыл бұрын

@@allstargaming2500 GPU Temps are lower than CPU temps in every laptop. So that isn't a problem. managing CPU Temp is more important for me

@allstargaming2500

Жыл бұрын

@@sampadkar19 Iam asking how is that possible? I know less GPU temp and more CPU temp for gaming laptops generally but the cpu of Alienware hit 100 while GPU was not that hot. How is that possible? Is it legit?

@sampadkar19

Жыл бұрын

@@allstargaming2500 maybe Alienware Designs Their System In Such a way

@rsjet

Жыл бұрын

@@allstargaming2500 Probably the heatpipes are prioritizing the GPU. For example, maybe they start at GPU so are colder, then touch the CPU when they are already warm...

The m16 is $200 more expensive. now 2799

alienware always has overheating issue.

do u buy laptops with your own money

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

yes, most of the time. Sometimes not though...

M16 performs grt in temp, amazing,

@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_

Жыл бұрын

Look at CPU temps, it's maxing out

Why not compare to an m18?

@GizmoSlipTech

Жыл бұрын

Waiting my order to arrive

@sdimaging7854

Жыл бұрын

@@GizmoSlipTech same here!

I believe I'm in the minority here where I don't have to or want to play my games at the highest settings, the problem is all PC gamers want to play their games at 4k resolution with 300+ fps at ultra super extreme max settings and then they're wondering why their laptops are melting

I would say it's the same. The perception of improvement of 1 - 10 FPS when you are at 100+ or 150+ fps is minimal. I would go with the Strix for better thermals and not having a flipped motherboard. That for me is a huge plus.

@ajo12Oba

Жыл бұрын

The thermals are worse on asus

@lilsou

Жыл бұрын

Did we see the same video? The thermals on the strix isn’t better.

@Jalalaburas1979

Жыл бұрын

Nope , I bought the strix from Best Buy and returned it . The m16 way better cooling . ASUS did the strix wrong this time . Bout the m16 and won’t go back .

@killerra

Жыл бұрын

@@lilsou You missed the M16 CPU hitting 90-100C and throttling the fps hard?

@timviei

Жыл бұрын

My two brothers has Alienwares. Always on 100C. A lot of thermal throttling. 3070 models. Loud and hot.

I'm pretty sure at this point his Alienware M16 computer was shutting down due to overheating and that's why we have a "video cut off" here ( 09:54 ). I've been using Dell laptops since 2011 and I told myself I won't use Dell anymore because of the CPU overheating problem (CPU >= 100C) and the machine will automatically shut down regardless of whether you save your work or not, I even created an application to calculate the CPU and GPU temperature to make sure that I will save my work before my laptop shutdown unexpectedly by overheating. It causes big problems for game and app developers because when the machine shuts down due to overheating while the developer has not had time to back up anything. Today is 2023 and I still haven't seen any improvement for this problem from Dell.

Alienware pulls ahead due to ram. Bet.

M16 has horrible 1% lows

So... Alienware won, nice!

More corect will be maching Strix G16 vs Alnw M16 or Strix G18 vs Alnw M18,because the smaller screen will be little more perfomance then bigest.

@LundeSite

Жыл бұрын

The benchmarks are run at the same resolution. Screen size doesn't matter in this case.

@user-cr3ix9pm5j

Жыл бұрын

@@LundeSite Its matter,that why beter to mach and see,or can check at G16 vs G18 or M16 vs M18 with same GPU

@LundeSite

Жыл бұрын

@@user-cr3ix9pm5j No, you are clueless. They are literally outputting the same amount of workload in the benchmarks. Screen size has NOTHING to do with the results since the resolution is the same.

@user-cr3ix9pm5j

Жыл бұрын

@@LundeSite Only after i seeing benchmark result in games such CP2077,H.Leg.,RDR2 i'll agreed with you,maybe i'm wrong,but until i d'not see this maching i will keep my opinion.

@user-cr3ix9pm5j

Жыл бұрын

@stokestwins62 I'm sorry for my English (I'm Ukrainian), but I didn't understand what you meant)))🤷🏻‍♂️

Alienware stuttering bad in apex, the 1% lows are bad

M16 runs cooler and better

Alienware laptops are just too unreliable and have alot of QC issues in my experience.

G18 gets hotter than the M16

@sampadkar19

Жыл бұрын

What about CPU?

@churchofsatan2041

Жыл бұрын

@@sampadkar19 The CPU does get hotter but does drop in most games, unlike the G18 which the GPU stays hot

@jb3960

Жыл бұрын

@@churchofsatan2041 well, the G18 didn't throttle though, the M16 did. Still impressive for a smaller chassis

@edvardcarrera4232

Жыл бұрын

Yes the cooling system is much better on alienware so it's worth the money

@sampadkar19

Жыл бұрын

@@edvardcarrera4232 what do you mean by Much better when Asus Has Lower CPU Temps

dont buy alienware m16, mine after 6 months used always crashed even just to play youtube shorts..definitely something problem with its gpu

Who still buy Alienware? You go to Razer for MacBook look and Lenovo and ASUS for high quality

@rsjet

Жыл бұрын

Alienware is the only one that has at home repairs. The others you need to send in for repairs. Also, Razer has always had people complaining of hardware problems.

@richdollars8337

Жыл бұрын

Alienware are for those that have the other company are for those that don’t

@rsjet

Жыл бұрын

So I will say I ended up buying the razer blade 16 because micro center has an in store repair warranty and I wanted a mini led or OLED screen and unfortunately alienware didn't have any. So far I'm really liking the blade 16. The biggest issue for me is that the keyboard is so much smaller than my previous alienware m15. But hopefully I'll get used to that