Algorithms: Big O Notation Example 1

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  • @hayden3774
    @hayden3774 Жыл бұрын

    My left ear truly enjoyed this thorough explanation

  • @ThePrlara2000
    @ThePrlara20006 жыл бұрын

    I learned more in 10 minutes, than my 3 hour lecture yesterday!!! Thanks

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Glad it was helpful

  • @Hanzla_Rana
    @Hanzla_Rana2 жыл бұрын

    my left ear liked the video

  • @pandadog8343
    @pandadog8343 Жыл бұрын

    5 years later this is still a great explanation, I always understood the basics of it but when it came to proofs I always got stumpted on how to prove it. thanks alot

  • @Sazza-ll3qd
    @Sazza-ll3qd6 жыл бұрын

    been stuck on this for 4 days now and you just cleared up my problem, your a life saver!

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback and glad it helped!

  • @alikhalidsalim4865
    @alikhalidsalim48654 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are the best videos on discrete math, on KZread. What a legend !!!!! Please continue posting as many videos on Computer Science as you can! THANKSSSSSSS

  • @HehLul
    @HehLul Жыл бұрын

    This mans in god sent! My prof just gave us notes and expected us to undertand. Been looking around everywhere for an explantion on Big O but you my friend had cleared all my doubts in under 10 mins! Thanks!

  • @davidr3569
    @davidr35692 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! Best explanation that goes step by step AND gives reasoning for each step. Choosing k = 1 makes this a whole lot easier to process and makes this very repeatable for variations of this type of problem. Gave a like!

  • @nathanielislas9245
    @nathanielislas92453 жыл бұрын

    You explain things so well! Keep up the good work!

  • @mk17173n
    @mk17173n4 жыл бұрын

    i learned more from this video in 5 minutes than other videos that were hours long.

  • @sankalparora9261
    @sankalparora92613 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! Clear, concise, to the point! Thanks!

  • @vinayakanil4288
    @vinayakanil42884 жыл бұрын

    You're a lifesaver dude, keep up the good work!!

  • @p.c2750
    @p.c27503 жыл бұрын

    One min into your tutorial, i give you thumbs up because of paying attention to details

  • @johncanzoneri8297
    @johncanzoneri82975 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!! This video helped what my professor couldn’t do in hours of lecture

  • @andyjohnson6520
    @andyjohnson65203 жыл бұрын

    So glad I learn more from youtube than a class I'm paying $1200 for.....thanks for the video, this helped tremendously!

  • @rainbow6siege345

    @rainbow6siege345

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same and learning online is shit too

  • @potatoitis3326
    @potatoitis33262 жыл бұрын

    YOU ARE THE BEST! thank you so much!!!!! I was struggling with this for my test and you cleared up a lot of confusion.

  • @fernandogmail1
    @fernandogmail13 жыл бұрын

    thank you, discrete math lord

  • @Ultrafresh987
    @Ultrafresh9872 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much. I didn't listen during the 1hr lecture and I've got it all here in 10 mins. Thanks again

  • @Drewbydrew
    @Drewbydrew5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic! Thanks, that made way more sense than my professor's explanation did :)

  • @quotablecode
    @quotablecode5 ай бұрын

    Been struggling with this notation till I stumbled upon this video. Thanks !

  • @RicardoFloresRicardo
    @RicardoFloresRicardo Жыл бұрын

    My right ear understood all of this. Thank u

  • @WebSurfingIsMyPastime
    @WebSurfingIsMyPastime4 жыл бұрын

    No updates in 2 years? Pls release more videos, and charge if you must, but bring them out, students such as myself will gladly pay for real working examples of these hard to grasp concepts! Thanks

  • @mrshodz
    @mrshodz Жыл бұрын

    great explanation. the simplicity of the explanation is wonderful.

  • @nveemusic
    @nveemusic5 жыл бұрын

    10 mins of this literally increased my study efficiency

  • @decayedjollyrancher88

    @decayedjollyrancher88

    9 ай бұрын

    😀

  • @juliannafotheringham7101
    @juliannafotheringham71012 жыл бұрын

    sooooooo incredibly helpful! Thank you, angel!

  • @headyshotta5777
    @headyshotta5777 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Only thing is that I had to watch it twice, switching earbuds halfway through so both my ears could hear.

  • @GRAZIoficial
    @GRAZIoficial3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you from Brazil. It help me a lot!

  • @kaho5004
    @kaho5004 Жыл бұрын

    Makes so much more sense than my lectures. Thank you

  • @MrRANDUM145
    @MrRANDUM1453 жыл бұрын

    This helped a lot! I can actually understand what you are saying unlike my thick accented teacher

  • @Ali124hdkflc
    @Ali124hdkflc4 жыл бұрын

    Very clear explanation. Thank you.

  • @zayedalmazroui7942
    @zayedalmazroui79424 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Is it necessary to use the second approach? Would it be sufficient to only use the first approach when proving?

  • @TheeWHATommy
    @TheeWHATommy3 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing, thank you!

  • @themanwhoiscompeng1422
    @themanwhoiscompeng14224 жыл бұрын

    your video's so helpful for cs students thanks a lot

  • @snowdawner250
    @snowdawner2504 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It was very clear and helpful!

  • @ericcheek2983
    @ericcheek29835 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, thank you so much

  • @WebSurfingIsMyPastime
    @WebSurfingIsMyPastime4 жыл бұрын

    I'm 30 seconds in and I allready know this video is going to help explain alot of misunderstandings I've had trying to grasp big-O notation.

  • @mk17173n

    @mk17173n

    4 жыл бұрын

    do you know why he labeled x =5 as k?

  • @junlee9437
    @junlee94374 жыл бұрын

    It helps a lot a lot.... Thank you!

  • @dariennesee5928
    @dariennesee59282 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I actually understand the concept now :)

  • @misterlight5115
    @misterlight51153 жыл бұрын

    hmm the book were using in my college class just says to use 2 rules remove all the constants (5 +n becomes O(n)) and use only the highest order (so like x + x^2 becomes O(x^2)). However, this is a programming course so that could be why but this video still did help

  • @thebarnold7234
    @thebarnold7234 Жыл бұрын

    My left ear loved this

  • @nurmukhambetserikbayev
    @nurmukhambetserikbayev8 ай бұрын

    Oh my GOD I love you. Thank you Sir!. Hope u r doing well

  • @user-hx9ds3mx7i
    @user-hx9ds3mx7i Жыл бұрын

    my left ear really enjoys this

  • @vrius3335
    @vrius33354 жыл бұрын

    Wow great video.

  • @MrxGamex69
    @MrxGamex698 ай бұрын

    Thanks a bunch!

  • @guliyevshahriyar
    @guliyevshahriyar Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much teacher!

  • @sonsc5283
    @sonsc52833 жыл бұрын

    very good explanation!

  • @krissharma7333
    @krissharma73336 жыл бұрын

    Very Well Explained. Thank You Very Much.

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! Thanks for the positive feedback.

  • @Flutoid
    @Flutoid5 ай бұрын

    why don't more instructors highlight the fact that you don't need to have a specfic one solution for prooving big O. this has been confusing me for few weeks until now. Thank you so much.

  • @ChiPyon
    @ChiPyon5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome thanks a lot

  • @pegahfallah3770
    @pegahfallah37705 жыл бұрын

    bless ur soul

  • @sahilghuge5302
    @sahilghuge53026 ай бұрын

    THANKYOU ❤️

  • @fahinrahman8951
    @fahinrahman89513 жыл бұрын

    so when you do the method of changing every variable to the highest degree, will k always be > 1 ( x > 1)?

  • @jlee900
    @jlee9009 ай бұрын

    Your videos are great! one question though, why can't x be equal or greater than 1 at around the 8:00 minute mark? Thank you and sorry for the very late comment

  • @madjidsmail5684
    @madjidsmail56843 жыл бұрын

    I learned more in 10 minutes, than my 3 hour lecture

  • @gracehu3031
    @gracehu30312 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU!: D

  • @user-uk6gj7up6i
    @user-uk6gj7up6i6 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation!!

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks! glad it helped.

  • @cansu5237
    @cansu52372 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @weebiezz
    @weebiezz3 жыл бұрын

    Quite helpful

  • @nihal1805
    @nihal18053 жыл бұрын

    Thanks ❤️😌

  • @kidcharlemagne9942
    @kidcharlemagne99426 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU!

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome, glad it helped!

  • @divy2783
    @divy27834 ай бұрын

    thx man

  • @goku_sama5348
    @goku_sama534811 ай бұрын

    so the whole strategy to prove this, is to turn every term to the highest degree in the polynom, while x > 1 and then look for c and k. After that you are done with the prove, right?

  • @KC-dg9pu
    @KC-dg9pu Жыл бұрын

    im following with k=1 but the book i have then uses k=2 as an example and im completley lost. the example was is x^2 + 2x + 1 O(x^2). So for k=1, the solution was 4x^2 which i can get using your method. but for k=2, the solution was 3x^2 and i can't figure that part out.

  • @goku_sama5348
    @goku_sama534811 ай бұрын

    when 28x^2 is bigger than 3x^2 + 25 our O(x) = x^2, we can forget the 3 and the 25, since they are constants, right?

  • @raykos4257
    @raykos42579 ай бұрын

    Are C and k assumed to be positive integers?

  • @jakobsymchych3846
    @jakobsymchych38462 жыл бұрын

    my left ear thanks you

  • @xuanhuang4071
    @xuanhuang40715 жыл бұрын

    A little bit confused that why you plug in value for x directly? Shouldn't we need to do 3x^2+25

  • @xuanhuang4071

    @xuanhuang4071

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nevermind, I figured it out. But, still confused about x= 5 is k.

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I hadn't seen these comments earlier! This is just an exploration where it turns out that x = 5 gives us a nice C = 4 to make both sides equal. Then we can see that once x > 5, the inequality holds, so that makes the k = 5. After that, I show a much simpler way to do this. I tried to state that before this first example, but it seems some people missed that or got hung up on this example.

  • @strawberryyogurt0
    @strawberryyogurt04 жыл бұрын

    @5:13 -- The lecturer should really have kept things consistent, especially for a beginner like myself. There really is no reason "when x >5" should have been specified when " x = 5 " was initially used. @5:24 - This is the point when you should have used " when x >5" because it is at this exact point when we're going to be experimenting with different values for "x" so the viewer/student can see what happens when we change the value of "x" --- The "What if" scenarios. My other suggestion would to have been to actually plug ever growing larger values into x and calculate the final values for those who are visual learners. x = 6, x = 10, x = 200, x = 2500, x = 100000000, etc which is "when x>5" finally makes conceptual sense. "When x>5" doesn't make sense in the "equation" written @5:13.

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the feedback. I tried to make it clear that this first example was done by exploration to illustrate the concept. The basic idea is that once x > k we need the inequality to hold. For this particular example, it was easy for me to find a value for k that gave us a nice C to make both sides equal. Once we get beyond this point where they are equal, the inequality holds. I stated that the following examples use a much easier strategy. Sure, maybe I should have added more examples for the exploration, but I am trying to keep the length of the videos down and focus on the strategy to find the C and k in the following examples. It seems like you were able to do that exploration on your own which is great!

  • @strawberryyogurt0

    @strawberryyogurt0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@discretemathvideos204 .... Appreciate the reply. Rest assure that it’s not limited to one youtube teaching channel. I’ve seen various youtubers doing the same regardless of subject matter. Often for beginners, tutorials having consistency makes a difference. Inconsistencies may cause confusion. Slow vs quick learners. Bart vs Lisa Simpsons of the world. Certain learners appreciate shorter videos, however, there are also a subset that prefer videos that are just a tad longer, with a couple more examples to truly hammer home concepts and the applications of those concept. Finding the right balance is certainly an art. I would rather see vids be a bit more thorough even if that adds one or two additional minutes - especially when they’re tutorials (as opposed to topic cliff notes). Specifically for ‘when x =5’ versus ‘when x > 5’, I decided to scroll through the comment section to see if someone may have offered clarification. Regardless, nice video. I got something out of it.

  • @Ali-kl3ql
    @Ali-kl3ql3 жыл бұрын

    We can take a lim both sides and C shows itself easily, without testing numbers.

  • @Bob-gi2gh
    @Bob-gi2gh3 жыл бұрын

    Hold up is this Casually Explained's burner account?

  • @sharifi101
    @sharifi1016 жыл бұрын

    how to solve this kind of big-oh? show that (x^2-1)/(x-1) is o(x) tnx

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    6 жыл бұрын

    Think about how that function you gave simplifies or use long division to simplify it.

  • @Walruz1000
    @Walruz10003 жыл бұрын

    How do you decide that g(x) is going to be 5^2 in the example? I dont understand how you chose that value, could you explain it? I think it would help me understand this a lot better.

  • @Walruz1000

    @Walruz1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it because x^2 is the highest order in the function, and x = 5?

  • @masoudshairzadeh6820

    @masoudshairzadeh6820

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe he picked 5 as a arbitrary number to make it easier to pick c and k

  • @timewrath7723
    @timewrath77234 жыл бұрын

    Why was 25 converted to an x^2 function at around 7:03?

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    the whole strategy here is to find a C value to make the inequality hold. The easiest way to do that is to bump every term up to the highest degree and simply combine like terms. Then the C is right therw!

  • @robertmunroe9635
    @robertmunroe96355 жыл бұрын

    So my big thing is how can you justify a proof by simply bumping the right side up to be greater in value than it would be previously.

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I hadn't seen these comments earlier! All you have to do is find a C and k for which the inequality holds. this technique does that in a quick and simple way. There is nothing incorrect in any of the statements.

  • @giizemtiske
    @giizemtiske6 ай бұрын

    Why did we say x = 5?

  • @glazfe8112
    @glazfe81124 жыл бұрын

    could you perhaps normalize the sound on this video? the volume is very low

  • @abdulrahmanzidane2271
    @abdulrahmanzidane22713 жыл бұрын

    You must come and give lectures instead of our prof :)

  • @noodleboi5053
    @noodleboi5053 Жыл бұрын

    what u got against my right ear

  • @JossinJax
    @JossinJax5 жыл бұрын

    Why is k = 5 when you said x =5 and x has to be greater than k?

  • @haneulkim4902

    @haneulkim4902

    5 жыл бұрын

    have the same question, did u find the answer?

  • @xogmaster

    @xogmaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@haneulkim4902 seriously wtf, this one thing has me so confused! the definition says x must be greater than k, but he set k to 5 when x was 5! i don't get it!

  • @yoowon-hye9270

    @yoowon-hye9270

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok lemme try to explain based on my knowledge. Let it be known that k is the "base case" of the possible values of input size n (the closest minimum value that satisfies the inequality). To perform what's on the left-hand side of the inequality (f(n)), we had to pick some value for n, which in this case is 5. We performed the left-hand expression and come up with the result of 100. Now we have to find a constant that would make the inequality true (i.e. to make 100

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, I hadn't seen all of these comments earlier! The first example is just sort of done by exploration and it turned out that x = 5 gave us some nice numbers. The point is that once the functions become equal at x = 5, once we go beyond that (x > k, where k=5) we know the inequality will hold. I mention that later, there's a much simpler way to do this, but wanted to get the concept across first.

  • @lesliechiu1437
    @lesliechiu14374 жыл бұрын

    Hi sir,Could you explain how to get x=5?

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    That first example is really just done by exploration to explain the concept. I happened to notice that x=5 gave us a nice value for C. But the following examples show a much simpler strategy, so don't get hung up on where the 5 came from. It was just a value I knew would work well because I created the problem.

  • @shimulbhattacharjee5137
    @shimulbhattacharjee51375 жыл бұрын

    Can I take x=3 ?

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I hadn't seen these comments earlier! I'm not sure where you are referring to. But there is no unique k or C value, you just have to find a pair that works.

  • @AhmedTarek-ob1zt
    @AhmedTarek-ob1zt3 жыл бұрын

    your sound is familiar , u sound like the guy from trevtutor

  • @dimakavetskyy2082
    @dimakavetskyy2082 Жыл бұрын

    YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @marcousosewelle5501
    @marcousosewelle55014 жыл бұрын

    3x^2 + 25/x2

  • @miguelcastorena4293

    @miguelcastorena4293

    3 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the explanation

  • @bubblesgrappling736
    @bubblesgrappling7364 жыл бұрын

    but what is g(x) in relation to f(x)? I understand that f(x) i some arbitrary function, but it doesnt make sense to describe a function in relation to another function that we do not know either???

  • @discretemathvideos204

    @discretemathvideos204

    4 жыл бұрын

    the idea is that you are given the function f(x) and trying to say it is on the order of g(x). g(x) becomes a simple upper bound on f(x)

  • @sameertrimade9691
    @sameertrimade96916 жыл бұрын

    horrible lecture

  • @decayedjollyrancher88

    @decayedjollyrancher88

    9 ай бұрын

    make a better one or get out buddy. this is the reason i have a degree.