Alfa Romeo Giulia Spider Veloce Runs to the Ocean

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

For some, the dedication and passion invested into their vintage car approaches fanatical levels, much like those who push their limits in the ocean. Whether racing from Molokai to Oahu or paddle-boarding for miles and miles off California's coast, being in the ocean can become an obsession. For Mr. Casey Annis, his 1962 Alfa Romeo Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 allows him to bridge the gap between his two pastimes-classic cars and the ocean.
On days that Casey can't make it into the water he still drives along the beach and is able to see the surf, check out conditions, smell the brine and feel the spray. It is a car, but it's also a way of staying connected to the water when he can't physically be in it.
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  • @lukeaxcell
    @lukeaxcell10 жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful car. Those lines, that paint, stunning. There's really something special about classic Alfas.

  • @TheFarinared

    @TheFarinared

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot on

  • @XoVoX
    @XoVoX10 жыл бұрын

    great music, great storytelling, great vehicle... Petrolicious hits the mark nearly every time!

  • @Munkenba
    @Munkenba9 жыл бұрын

    Just last weekend I took my recently purchased Lancia Fulvia for a drive in the countryside during a break in the weather. I pulled into a pub car park because I wanted to turn around and re try the amazing road I'd just come down and right there was a dark blue Giulia Spider just like this one. I had to stop of course and meet the owner, also because the duo of cars looked incredible together. An unlikely sighting during the English winter.

  • @communismman1471
    @communismman14715 жыл бұрын

    Art in motion with the ocean

  • @Homewrecker100
    @Homewrecker1008 жыл бұрын

    That oil,temp,fuel gauge was beautifull!

  • @CourseCorrect
    @CourseCorrect10 жыл бұрын

    James Carter, I have had my '66 for 8 years and my experience is the exact opposite. It was my daily driver for 3 of those years and only left me stranded once. When sorted, they are simple, reliable cars that are a blast to drive.

  • @winemanboy
    @winemanboy9 жыл бұрын

    just bought a 1969 boat-tail for $1.00 CAD. It's in my driveway right now. Sat in garage for, I'm not sure how many years, then a farmers field and then my driveway. Minor damage right front. Roof needs replacing. I've also a 1969 Super Giulia. I bought this car for $400CAD in 1988. Put $4500 into body and seats. Been in my garage since 1992. It's red! I love Alfa's. So much history. I'll get the boat-tail completely restored next year. Vai Italia!

  • @Emills1357
    @Emills135710 жыл бұрын

    God I love all of these videos. So classy with great editing. Not to mention the gorgeous cars. You guys get what cars are all about.

  • @akilh340
    @akilh34010 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful car, beautiful noise, nice story and guy, excellent video. Thumbs up

  • @fabrizioleoni8047
    @fabrizioleoni804710 жыл бұрын

    Proud to be italian...

  • @lazios
    @lazios9 жыл бұрын

    The car is nice and elegant but the front is simply beautiful.

  • @xxdriftking027xx
    @xxdriftking027xx10 жыл бұрын

    props, this guys knows how to drive a manual the right way :D. Flawless downshifting my good sir!

  • @Homewrecker100
    @Homewrecker1008 жыл бұрын

    Why did all brands lose the capabillity of producing such beautifull detailed cars, all modern cars have nothing of flair, even the door handles, the rear view mirror, the gauges, every piece of the car is designed with the purpose of intriging people to look at it.. Todays cars are so boring..

  • @gerardosalas9477

    @gerardosalas9477

    8 жыл бұрын

    Because of the silly American safety regulations. They ruined car design forever in the 70s and today they're ruining engine design possibly too, forever.

  • @agapitofioramonti2

    @agapitofioramonti2

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Gerardo Salas Let's hope in President Trump.........

  • @AB-pl1ko

    @AB-pl1ko

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gerardo is correct, safety and emission regulations, mainly in the USA, but in other places as well, changed everything starting in the late 60's. Per what was also mentioned about Trump, I seriously doubt his being in office would have any affect on all of this as mass market auto design is now globally oriented (cars are designed either FOR sale in the USA or not) + DJT's main area of focus has always been real estate and I don't think he has much of any interest in cars other than on a basic level.

  • @gregorytimmons4777
    @gregorytimmons47775 жыл бұрын

    Another car i was fortunate enough to own. One of my biggest, most pleasent automotive surprises. The car exceeded my expectations by a huge margin.

  • @markg1531
    @markg15315 ай бұрын

    The car is so beautiful to me.

  • @superstardestroyer92
    @superstardestroyer928 жыл бұрын

    Most beautiful thing in the world

  • @ItalianProud1978
    @ItalianProud197810 жыл бұрын

    "Art in Motion"

  • @humakhan80
    @humakhan803 жыл бұрын

    Seems like a perfect life.

  • @rmaretic
    @rmaretic10 жыл бұрын

    Video of the year so far :D

  • @ReznorRage
    @ReznorRage10 жыл бұрын

    I always love seeing Alfas on here. Hopefully we'll see a Sprint Speciale sometime soon.

  • @beegee22
    @beegee223 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful car, wonderfully told story of the experience of living with it.

  • @Helios727
    @Helios7279 жыл бұрын

    Im sorry. but please let me say this. Your channel is awesome and it is one i have been waiting for/searching for. So glad i found this. and the cars MY GOD.

  • @garybarton3843
    @garybarton38434 жыл бұрын

    I once owned a '59 Alfa Romeo Guiletta Spyder for about a year. It was in rough shape but driveable and I wanted to fix it, but in those days when I had the money, I didn't have the time and visa versa. I had bought it for $400, loved it for a year and then sold it to a friends brother for $400. But at least I had it for awhile!

  • @AFog86
    @AFog869 жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic profile. Thank you Petrolicous.

  • @michaelbandarra3526
    @michaelbandarra35267 жыл бұрын

    An intelligent and fun video for all us auto obcessed people...explains it well!

  • @scottmeredith7467
    @scottmeredith7467 Жыл бұрын

    Howdy Casey, Cool to see the gray roll bar and red and blue of the vintage Spitfire in your garage - You down shift better than I do . . .

  • @thepunadude
    @thepunadude6 жыл бұрын

    i remember that double tap on the gas ... had a 1963 veloce ... god was i in love. i also remember 13hrs to change the head gasket the first time and 50mins that last time ... i did a few. raced SCCA 'f' production ... then there was that one exhaust nut ... crows foot, 3in extension and u-joint ... what? 1/8th turn at a time. it was painted appliance(bright) white ... 60 series tires and slammed to the ground ... previously a flat track racer in florida. in the santa cruz mts(norcal) nothing could keep up with me on hwy 9 ... that sucker was 'on rails'. had a roll bar built into the body behind the seats at an angle over 'em, with a 'heartbreaker' support running from the center to the floor of the passenger side. loops seat removed to make it work and that meant no chix! lol! every other friday at noon id leave work in palo alto and drive to pismo beach for clam chowder at pleases tavern ... then drive home ... 400miles r/t.

  • @alexandreanonimous7056
    @alexandreanonimous70567 жыл бұрын

    One of the good ones for sure

  • @abuelofm5
    @abuelofm58 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely gorgeous vehicle

  • @stefanomelloni9181
    @stefanomelloni918110 жыл бұрын

    Very beautiful car, proud to be italian.

  • @roomfactor
    @roomfactor8 жыл бұрын

    pure elegance!

  • @michalciernik655
    @michalciernik6556 жыл бұрын

    I love Alfa Romeo, I love Petrolicius

  • @271production
    @271production10 жыл бұрын

    god driving this on twisty mountain roads in the sun, living the dream!

  • @Gluvich
    @Gluvich10 жыл бұрын

    Alfa stories are the best!..this channel is the best! :))

  • @kneelandpray2878
    @kneelandpray28787 жыл бұрын

    Pure class!!

  • @squirrelman6719
    @squirrelman67195 жыл бұрын

    probably the most precise and sensitive steering on any car e v er !

  • @debonairecatalina6570
    @debonairecatalina65707 жыл бұрын

    that Alfa sounds so well tuned

  • @DesignPixelmaster
    @DesignPixelmaster10 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE THE Petrolicious VIDEOS!!!

  • @MacKraze1
    @MacKraze110 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos, keep up the good work!!!!!!

  • @winemanboy
    @winemanboy9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs8 жыл бұрын

    Having done a rotisserie restoration on a 750 series Spider I had to like the vid right away!

  • @AndreaLuigelli
    @AndreaLuigelli10 жыл бұрын

    Spectacular car, very nice channel and storytelling! Subscribed!

  • @thomaswebb9705
    @thomaswebb970510 жыл бұрын

    AND he knows how to double clutch and heel and toe. Nice!

  • @sotirisbakaimis3276
    @sotirisbakaimis32768 жыл бұрын

    great video from every aspect

  • @zelphx
    @zelphx6 жыл бұрын

    I miss living in Pt. Loma, and driving my '70 MGB.

  • @RagnoRosso
    @RagnoRosso10 жыл бұрын

    Stupenda Alfa!

  • @communismman1471
    @communismman14715 жыл бұрын

    Boy do I want one of those

  • @calvinkonrath9737
    @calvinkonrath973710 жыл бұрын

    You guys really know how to shoot cars... *hats off* I'd love to know what kinda experience your director/camera crew have.

  • @oldtimerparade
    @oldtimerparade10 жыл бұрын

    ... It is a nice car

  • @michaelhilber8284
    @michaelhilber8284 Жыл бұрын

    5:35 it looks great shot from above

  • @kashyapjoshi3672
    @kashyapjoshi367210 жыл бұрын

    While I really love the cars and the way the videos are shot, I am also amazed at the music that's used. Can someone tell me what tracks have been used until now?

  • @rehansamee137
    @rehansamee13710 жыл бұрын

    Very nice car and love the passion of the owner who, clearly, drives it rather than keep it stored away!!! I'm very keen to learn if the engine is supported by Veloce mounts or the Normale mounts .....

  • @anteksenduka5138
    @anteksenduka513810 жыл бұрын

    What's the title of that masterpiece of jazz???

  • @andreaguiso4322
    @andreaguiso43229 жыл бұрын

    "senza cuore saremmo solo macchine"

  • @fishtail123
    @fishtail12310 жыл бұрын

    I wish when i went home as a child there was a Ferrari Dino on the driveway!! In-fact i wish when i went home now there was a Ferrari Dino on the driveway ;-)

  • @petersente83
    @petersente8310 жыл бұрын

    Is this a video about the Giulia Spider, or about the life of a guy who happens to own one...? I would have liked to hear more about the Alfa... Apart from that, nice video. And what an absolutely stunning car!

  • @alfazedz1791
    @alfazedz17915 жыл бұрын

    He expressed my exact sentiment as a child; I wanted something other than my own muscle power to move me around. I was almost crawling out of my skin waiting for that day.

  • @FPV_sk8
    @FPV_sk810 жыл бұрын

    after watching a couple episodes of petrolicious I went and traded my car in on something I really wanted. Dont think I'll ever sell my 125i coupe. I'm sure I need something from the shop now, the shop on the other side of town!

  • @djweetos
    @djweetos10 жыл бұрын

    Door handles to die for.

  • @thegillianannis

    @thegillianannis

    10 жыл бұрын

    yes, but sometimes they are very difficult to open. Thanks for the compliment on my dad's car!

  • @iloper
    @iloper10 жыл бұрын

    why are alfa owners just smarter?

  • @TheTheolm

    @TheTheolm

    5 жыл бұрын

    The answer is in your question.

  • @BCHOMEHUNTER

    @BCHOMEHUNTER

    4 жыл бұрын

    We would like to add Porsche owners to the list.

  • @humakhan80

    @humakhan80

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BCHOMEHUNTER n o p e

  • @sameagle988

    @sameagle988

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have to be in order to fix them.

  • @dirkdiggler6230

    @dirkdiggler6230

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sameagle988 haha

  • @lorenzomagazzeni5425
    @lorenzomagazzeni5425 Жыл бұрын

    Apart from the air intake on the bonnet and 1600 cc, instead of 1300CC and a 5th gear - it was identical to the Giulietta, only sexier. It was a pleasure to drive it until, read below. Ciao.

  • @barbatalexandrucatalin3597
    @barbatalexandrucatalin359710 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful car. Though, is it so hard to polish the surface rust on the alfa romeo grill?

  • @WorstDriver1393
    @WorstDriver139310 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't get much more tasteful than that. Always a treat to get on youtube on tuesday night. You guys make my day. PS: Special request, I'm dying to see a Cadillac from the mid 50's to late 60's or any american luxury car (Imperial, Lincoln) from that period. I can't be the only one.

  • @anonymousonlineuser6543
    @anonymousonlineuser65434 жыл бұрын

    'I came home one day and there is a Ferrari Dyno sitting in the driveway' , my first thought was : Were you home too early?

  • @MrDanty64

    @MrDanty64

    4 жыл бұрын

    it was a Minimum Day.

  • @BennisSpec
    @BennisSpec10 жыл бұрын

    Anyone know what kind of camera equipment is used for this/these shoots? Any info would be fantastic.

  • @calotono
    @calotono10 жыл бұрын

    Why are there no ads on your videos?

  • @goatcreek
    @goatcreek8 жыл бұрын

    Got one :-)

  • @apache1234657
    @apache123465710 жыл бұрын

    nice heal toeing, I can't do that lol

  • @alfadoctor1
    @alfadoctor16 жыл бұрын

    Is this car in the Spider Veloce Register? I would like to know more about this car.

  • @jsmith7318
    @jsmith73182 жыл бұрын

    I have a 64 barn find - it’s a normale too. Owner had it since 1978 Cali car no rust. Who can I trust to concors this thing?

  • @Pandamasque
    @Pandamasque10 жыл бұрын

    Where was this filmed?

  • @saladisiac
    @saladisiac10 жыл бұрын

    I spotted a Renault Megane poster in the garage, that's funny !

  • @aaazz3436
    @aaazz34368 жыл бұрын

    i would love owning this car someone .. its my fav

  • @vikariusvikarius6570

    @vikariusvikarius6570

    7 жыл бұрын

    just contact me. 1.6 grey, interiors in red. full original. in Italy. beautiful

  • @macoypizzuti5120

    @macoypizzuti5120

    7 жыл бұрын

    How much? I may need to sell my GTV6

  • @vikariusvikarius6570

    @vikariusvikarius6570

    7 жыл бұрын

    actually I'am not selling it, but in the future....

  • @lorenzomagazzeni5425
    @lorenzomagazzeni5425 Жыл бұрын

    I had one, the gas tank just mellted into rust, all the rust particles went into the carburetor. Couldnt find a new tank at Alfa Romeo, at the time I was flush and I was in Italy... Just gives you an idea what customer service, spare Alfa Romeo had and has.

  • @fishtail123
    @fishtail12310 жыл бұрын

    3 people hit 'dislike' by accident.....surely!

  • @jrgensenbo2999

    @jrgensenbo2999

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel Rackham; now 22 Volkswagen-owners has clicked the dislike as well 🤥

  • @faroukkhlass6165
    @faroukkhlass61657 жыл бұрын

    ❤❤

  • @GereDJ2
    @GereDJ22 жыл бұрын

    What exactly does blipping the throttle between shifts accomplish? I ask because I've been diving ALFAs and other manual shift cars for years and don't do that except down shifting as needed.

  • @KiltedGreen

    @KiltedGreen

    3 ай бұрын

    Because when you change down, at the same speed, the engine has to be at a higher RPM to mesh imperceptibly. Try it.

  • @bmaclogon
    @bmaclogon9 жыл бұрын

    I believe I just saw a very similar '61 car sell on Mecum auctions for $140,000. But I wouldn't sell it for any price. A Ferrari 275 roadster from the same Argentinian owner sold for over two million. The Ferrari is nice. But I think your Alfa has more class: The handmade detail, the design of the instruments. I drive a 1988 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio. I'm not selling it. Ever. Still I like your car more than mine. My car may be awesome from outside, but the dash has way too much plastic, and the electronic instruments offer hardly any advantage. The Variable Valve Timing VVT does give it some more pep from the same motor. Happy Trails!

  • @mnhsty

    @mnhsty

    8 жыл бұрын

    I've had both his car and yours (currently). As a non-fanatic, non-obsessed sort of owner, I get a lot more use and enjoyment out of the newer car, although the Giulia is gorgeous. For one thing, I don't have to worry about the '88 rusting into oblivion here in the Northeast.

  • @brianpercival1829
    @brianpercival18295 жыл бұрын

    Hood slightly up? 5:44

  • @alfistaiga
    @alfistaiga10 жыл бұрын

    Don't mean to nitpick (and the owner explains further in the video), but I wish you didn't describe the car as "Veloce" in the title... "Abnormale to the Ocean" would be more fitting IMHO.

  • @SaltDiggerMiko
    @SaltDiggerMiko5 жыл бұрын

    There are food in Tuzla Bosnia and Herzegovina last restored in 1996 unfortunately the owner is dead now in this state

  • @Diabolos1
    @Diabolos110 жыл бұрын

    90's Corvette. Any day. P.O.S. foreign car.

  • @jackpontiac52

    @jackpontiac52

    9 жыл бұрын

    Diabolos1 Funny Guy!

  • @ghettomist1575
    @ghettomist15755 жыл бұрын

    Bro that’s the kind of car a random girl hops in, makes out with you, then walks away casually.

  • @juandlr9726
    @juandlr9726 Жыл бұрын

    as far as i know every giulia spider is 5 speed, were the giuliettas the ones with the 4 speed

  • @XoVoX
    @XoVoX10 жыл бұрын

    any alfa aficionado out there? I saw a car recently driving around town and it had a similar front, but the back end was much more sloped compared to this. I looked up all the main produced cars and found nothing so I assume its some sort of special. I haven't seen it on the road since sadly...

  • @Buttnut105

    @Buttnut105

    10 жыл бұрын

    It could've been a 1900 CSS.

  • @XoVoX

    @XoVoX

    10 жыл бұрын

    Alec D. it was a convertible and it looks like all of these you mentioned are hard tops. I passed it the other way between a median about 15 minutes later and it had the upside down triangle shape found on most Alfa Romeos so I think I at least have the make correct. Im going to keep searching till I find out what it was. If I ever see the guy on the road again Im going to chase him down. He had his wife in the car and I didnt want to bother them wherever they were headed that night.

  • @89karabaja

    @89karabaja

    10 жыл бұрын

    krodista Spider Duetto?, Alfa Romeo 1900?

  • @JoseNobre

    @JoseNobre

    10 жыл бұрын

    1961 Giullietta Spider?

  • @XoVoX

    @XoVoX

    10 жыл бұрын

    Jose Nobre thats exactly it! thanks!

  • @mmmboobs
    @mmmboobs10 жыл бұрын

    Bud Powell playing?

  • @hanshabluetzel4343

    @hanshabluetzel4343

    8 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious too!

  • @kennethj1956
    @kennethj195610 жыл бұрын

    I owned a 1960 Giulietta spider 101 normale...... The high revving 1300 cc motor sounded like you were racing while driving normal. Alas, The finicky car turned to rust in my backyard, so i had it hauled off the the scrap yard to be turned into tin cans for Japan. Does this make me a bad person?

  • @musiccylinderK6

    @musiccylinderK6

    10 жыл бұрын

    I am sorry, but I'd say so.. this comment made me sad, very sad..

  • @Haffschlappe
    @Haffschlappe10 жыл бұрын

    Never forget allways add 1% good smokefree API TC Two stroke oil to your fuel when using modern agressive dry eco fuels in these old carbed engines. In Germany any vintage BMW driver adds 1% two stroke oil to the fuel

  • @loganjones1672
    @loganjones167210 жыл бұрын

    Mysteriously grows a moustache at 2:53

  • @thursmornsunlight
    @thursmornsunlight9 жыл бұрын

    I wish people loved their Alfa(s) in Vancouver. Most of them that were on sale were driven to sh*t. I guess there wasn't enough parts.

  • @emorsi5
    @emorsi510 жыл бұрын

    The Italian men who designd this car did not want it to be driven by an American wearing SHORTS

  • @smbake

    @smbake

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh well!

  • @user-gs7hh1dy9x
    @user-gs7hh1dy9x4 жыл бұрын

    😀😃🙃😘👍👍👍

  • @teraken18
    @teraken1810 жыл бұрын

    いいなぁ!、希少価値が高いよねぇ、こんな車に乗ってみたいよねぇ、男のロマンを感じるねぇ!!!^^)。

  • @gmsresinarodelcorso560
    @gmsresinarodelcorso5606 жыл бұрын

    Solo NOI italiani sappiamo fare le macchine.

  • @lorenzomagazzeni5425
    @lorenzomagazzeni5425 Жыл бұрын

    I had that car, too bad the fuel thank rusted, and i couldn't find a new tank - Alfa Romeo had no spares, let alone tanks.

  • @user-hq7vl7if8t
    @user-hq7vl7if8t4 жыл бұрын

    うっとりーぬ(*´ω`*)💕💕💕💕💕

  • @humakhan80

    @humakhan80

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @debbithomas3174
    @debbithomas31749 жыл бұрын

    The spider veloce was the last of the Guilia (1600) spiders. I understand that it was only made for two years - 1965 and 1966. There were 1,091 of these cars made. I disagree with many things he says here. The veloce had disk brakes on the back. It also had different air intake than the normale cars. There was not a lot of information on these. Most dealers told me that mine did not exist. I was the second owner of my little car. The engine had been put into a race car so it had an engine out of a Sprint Speciale. Mostly the same, but different valve clearances.

  • @ir8d8rads

    @ir8d8rads

    9 жыл бұрын

    Debbi Thomas Last of the 101 series cars with a 1600. 105 series Giulia still had them (Giulia Super, Spider, GT, TZ) If you find a 105 series engine in a 101 with Webers it is probably from a Giulia Super. Italian cars from the 1960's do not have model years. They were made when they made them. Not like the U.S. where they have to change things every year to sell cars. Giulia Spider Veloce made 1964-65. Sold sometimes in the U.S. as a 1966 which caused problems with emissions later with no PCV valve, or tap on ported vacuum to operate one. Tipo 10118 used the engine from the Sprint Speciale with part number prefix 10121. 10118 GSV has rear brakes using the 3-shoe Alfin drums from the Giulietta Veloce front brakes, and front disc brakes. My Veloce is the 36Xrd made. The only date I could find is 1964 on the tag on the steering box. It was purchased new in CA by my Uncle in 1966 so it hasn't been "out of hand" so to speak. Veloce's have a ram-air intake on the driver's side that is directed into the air cleaner. Other differences from Normal spider is the oil pan, rear axle ratio, cams, connecting rods, pistons, and factory tube header. A real Veloce motor is very different than the normal 1600. No power below 3000 revs. Goes like stink from 5500-7000+ RPM. Stops on a dime and handles like a skateboard...

  • @agapitofioramonti2

    @agapitofioramonti2

    8 жыл бұрын

    front disc brakes

  • @polredside
    @polredside10 жыл бұрын

    please youtube, remove the unlike button for any petrolicious video.

  • @SLABONECHD
    @SLABONECHD3 жыл бұрын

    Buen auto para salir escuchando jazz y creerse intelectual o mas bien pseudo intelectual xd

  • @Buttnut105
    @Buttnut1059 жыл бұрын

    Great little car. Just one question...could you fit a Ferrari 400i V12 in there?...Alfa four cylinder sounds good...Ferrari V12 sounds better...and goes better...wow there are a lot of ellipses in this comment.

  • @pikachupowers

    @pikachupowers

    9 жыл бұрын

    i highly doubt it but thats a pretty bad idea lol

  • @Buttnut105

    @Buttnut105

    9 жыл бұрын

    analanalyst I'm not sure it's been done with Alfas, but I've seen photos of a Jag V12 nestled into a stock-looking Austin Healey. Doesn't mean it can work with a Giulia, but still.

  • @pikachupowers

    @pikachupowers

    9 жыл бұрын

    Alec D. if its engineered to have a 4 cylinder engine, if you fit a v12 into there its not gonna be a good car lol. cornering and doing anything with the car but driving like a granny will be a challenger

  • @Buttnut105

    @Buttnut105

    9 жыл бұрын

    analanalyst Not necessarily. I wouldn't corner in a Giulia super hard either way. It's a car you cruise in. Also, the formula of putting bigger engines in small cars has resulted in some pretty great giant slayers.

  • @querindaniele

    @querindaniele

    9 жыл бұрын

    please with the bullshit... dumb

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