Thanks for the shout out... if we get enough people to point this out we may do some good and help that woman's family. I think that they may be trying to use this as an excuse to ban the import of replicas.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

THAT's exactly what I'm worried about, too. If he successfully side-steps this and wriggles out of it, there will be a measure of justice she and her family are denied....in my thinking. Also... if Alec can appeal to the firearms-ignorance of the masses, he *could* wreak a bit of havoc with these replicas in his effort to deflect responsibility.

@JohnLloydScharf

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost #RedFlagAlecBaldwin🚩 #AlecBaldwinKilledHalynaHutchins #HalynaHutchinsDidNotKillHerself🚩 #BlamestormingBaldwin🚩 It was a wrongful death and involuntary manslaughter.🚩

@JohnLloydScharf

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost These "replicas" seem to be safer because it takes more steps than to just pop in a speed loader and pull the trigger. Of course, they are not foolproof and there is no worse of a fool than a narcissistic psychopath. Alex Baldwin was a narcissistic psychopath to journalists and cameramen by assaulting them before. He even treated his own daughter like a thing rather than a person. He has been allowed to be above the law in the past already. He fits right in with the Clinton, Columbo, Biden, and Bonanno Crime Families in that he violates the law and will never be fully held accountable. In fact, the Columbo and Bonanno Families were more respectable and less destructive to our nation.

@MomentsInTrading

2 жыл бұрын

I subscribe to 11bangbang and recommend the channel. That video breaking down why Alec’s version cannot be factual was excellent.

@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods

2 жыл бұрын

@@MomentsInTrading thqnk you very much

Alec has been handling guns on movie sets for 40 years, he should be fully versed in gun safety. He is totally to blame

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

My sentiments, too.

@charlesoutdoors2424

2 жыл бұрын

Really doesn't matter his experience. They hired an expert to provide same props for a movie. Real guns are sometimes used as props. The question will be how a live round got in the gun and pasted off by the expert as safe. Yes, If Baldwin failed to make sure the expert was correct, but Baldwin not being an expert won't be blamed for this. Silly to keep going on about it when guns for a movie are going to be handled in an un-safe manner. That's why there's an expert making sure nobody gets hurt in the process. That expert will catch the blame unless she can prove someone else tamper with the gun because we all know there never was suppose to be a live round in the gun or even on the set.

@TrollHunterxXx

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesoutdoors2424 I agree … while he’s a huge dick … he’s absolutely not to blame here. The person in charge is 100% at fault … and that ain’t Alec Baldwin

@dalepettit6799

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrollHunterxXx Respectfully disagree. I am a veteran and have a fair amount of firearms experience. SA revolvers can not cock, or point themselves. That requires human agency. If the gun is in your hand you are responsible for where it is pointed. Also SOP for handling firearms of any kind is to check and clear it the moment it enters your hand.

@noelleonard2498

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesoutdoors2424 sorry dude but Alec Baldwin doesn't get to use the it's somebody else's fault excuse. Hollywood Elite or not when you have a gun in your hand it's your responsibility

"If you can't blame it on Trump, then it's got to be the gun." Well put, sir!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Trump and "white nationalists"...whoever they are. Thank you.

@doejon9424

2 жыл бұрын

Free Alec !! He's innocent! Movie stars don't lie & he's an expert in ALL firearms. Those Vintage era's Six Poppers go off by themselves all the time. They didn't call it the "Wild West" for nothin. He'd be hemmed up in the court systems if he committed involuntary manslaughter, just like anyone else.

@doejon9424

2 жыл бұрын

@Dave Doherty Haha !! It's crazy that we are so accustom to the elitist corruption nowadays.. that it would actually be abnormal for Alec to be in custody during a murder investigation. He's already done interviews, cleared & ready for that million dollar book deal. Only in build-a woke America !

@joenewman6494

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@michaelwaninger3155

2 жыл бұрын

Trump paid someone to put live rounds in to get even for the SNL performances. It'll be on CNN tomorrow.

You're absolutely right, John Schneider did a couple videos on how ridiculous this whole Alec Baldwin's, "the gun fired itself" deflection is. I've been around guns my whole life and not once did a gun ever get up and shoot me or a family member. I was taught early that you treat every firearm as if it's loaded and never point a gun at anyone, unless they're a possible threat harming family or self. Great video,

Here's a simple solution. NO LIVE AMMO on sets. Ammo checked hourly and every round and brass is accounted for. Frankly the ammo shouldn't have anything more than just a primer for sound reference no matter the weapon being used. Second every actor using weapons on a set takes a mandatory 8 hour safety course before filming.

I don't believe he feels bad at all . A narcissist will blame everything and everyone but themselves for absolution and a sociopath just doesn't care . He's one or the other .

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly seems like the way he's acting and carrying himself.

@Adventure2305

2 жыл бұрын

He could be both a maniac on top 🤔😱

@blauer2551

2 жыл бұрын

He believes he’s an elite, anything he does is the fault of the maker or another person. I’m sure he’s blamed BMW on a few speeding tickets as well. Damn cars go too fast!

@williamgregory6684

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say both!

@jamespenn5788

2 жыл бұрын

Both.

As a retired range officer, I can tell you straight out, that Alec is full of 🤬. Even if the gun were found to be defective or modified, Alec is absolutely (to some degree) responsible. & needs to be held accountable for the grossly neglect death & assault that took place. In my opinion.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I share your opinion.

@f.b.8254

2 жыл бұрын

How about the gross neglect of the other four people - Halyna herself, the director Joel, the Armorer Gutierrez, and the Assistant Dave Wells?

@Stevarooni

2 жыл бұрын

@@f.b.8254 civil responsibility. They owe the injured and the family of the deceased compensation. But the one who pointed the revolver and, apparently, pulled back the hammer, is Alec Baldwin.

@GunChronicles

2 жыл бұрын

@mike williams Yes, the armorer screwed up big time but that doesn't lift the blame from Baldwin ignoring one of the basic safety rules of insuring that the firearm is pointed in a safe direction. If he had followed that rule then the lady would still be alive and the other gentleman would be uninjured as well. The only thing that would be discussed is how everybody had the crap scared out of them from a negligent discharge. I have zero respect for Baldwin because he refuses to take responsibility for the consequences of his failure to adhere to basic firearm safety protocols.

@BooRadley452

2 жыл бұрын

@mike williams The ONLY way a revolver can fire without proper usage is if it is either: a) dropped while fully cocked [with factory flaws] b)mishandled c)manipulated while holstered Revolvers are inherently safe by design.

I know this sounds terrible, but when I first heard of this incident, I casually assumed that Mr. Baldwin had lost his temper and shot someone, because he seems to present himself as one of those, 'I'm always right', kind of people with the contemptuous sneer of a natural sadist. So I learnt it is an accident and I've watched the two(?) interviews he's recently done and wonder if actors cannot help but perform in some way? Does the camera activate some part of their persona from where they have to reveal believable emotion but with the problem of spontaneity versus performance? Can he even believe himself? I even wonder if it's prelude to him testifying to whoever's in-charge about gun laws? I believe you to be 100% right to not wish being his shoes, ever! What a dreadful mess.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

It's sickening and saddening. I wish he wouldn't make it worse for the family of the woman he killed just to cover his own arse.

@mickk8519

2 жыл бұрын

For all we know, he may have wanted to kill her, and him being so full of his own self importance knew he could get away with it as an "accident."

What Alec Baldwin actually said, "The cinematographer, Hylana Hutchins, directed me to aim the gun at her while I pulled the hammer back and aimed the gun at different angles as she requested." What he is saying, "It is her fault as she was micromanaging me as to where to aim the gun and how the hammer looked to the camera. She set me up." I'm pretty sure the Lefty District Attorney out there won't bring charges. Alec sounds like he has resolved his own guilt in this.

New gun control law: EVERYONE on a Hollywood movie set has to complete a gun safety course from NRA or similar organization and be re-certified before every movie. I had zero respect for Alec Baldwin before, but he lowered the bar even further by making the mistake, then he lowered it again by trying to deny he was at fault. I have a feeling he's not done lowering the bar, it seems to be all he can do.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Like you, I didn't think anything of him before this, and i honestly didn't think I could think *less* of him than I did. I was wrong.

@raccoonlittlebear6476

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if an autopsy was preformed on that poor woman? Was she pregnant? Shades of Ted Kennedy? Just speculating here.🤔

@soakupthesunman

2 жыл бұрын

That would be great, considering the amount of hate the NRA get from Baldwin's ilk. Millons of Americans think the NRA sells guns!

@stephaniehooper386

2 жыл бұрын

It is a story just like Bill Clinton I smoked it but I didn't inhale. A bunch of BS. I cocked it but I didn't pull the trigger

@patclair9555

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniehooper386 I’d rather he’d been smokin weed than handling a gun. Never knew a reefer to kill anyone it was pointed at 😂

Every Gun is loaded. That's the Rule!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Every single one...at all times.

@davidshechtman4746

2 жыл бұрын

But now we are going to replace this phrase with the following: "an unloaded gun is a useless gun" 😁

@ShadowImpressive

2 жыл бұрын

Beyond that, you literally can't have the single action (4 click hammer) go off unless you pull the hammer back and pull the trigger. The seer will always engage half-cock position and never contact the cartridge. And unless it was modified by the armorer on set and the hammer was chopped you physically cannot defeat this safety mechanism. It's not possible. He had to have pulled the trigger. Why can't he just stop trying to blame shift?

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidshechtman4746 Heheheh.....

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShadowImpressive That ole' boy is in a bad spot. He got himself into it, no doubt, but he's not unlike a drowning man pulling others within reach down with him.

This whole "I never pulled the trigger" is his second lie. His first one a couple weeks ago is he didn't understand why she fell down, he dropped that lie because it would require that he didn't hear the report of a 45 caliber bullet! Nobody believed his first lie, or this one either. He needs to make up a third lie.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

You got that right.

Thanks for another reinforcement of perfect firearm safety: EVERY GUN IS LOADED!!!. I was taught to shoot, at the age of four, by my WW2 Marine father with his 1911 A1 Remington Rand. I still have it and taught my daughter to shoot with it, but not age four. Her mom wanted to wait until I could teach them both. I served 25 years in the military from Vietnam through Desert Storm as a supply/armorer carrying that 1911 Remy. Now, as a member of S.A.S.S. and a War of Northern Aggression reenactor and collector, for display, of numerous percussion and period cartridge handguns and rifles of that war, I have found that many visitors to my displays have no idea how my pieces work, otherthan how they see them on TV or a movie.

It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see: Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger and took that woman's life.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I think.

@timb8095

2 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps already had his finger (unknowingly) on the trigger as he pulled it from the holster, pulled the hammer back (while still holding the trigger), let it go, and bang…

@jimmccoys5778

2 жыл бұрын

@@timb8095 why do the majority not think that this couldve happened? Because he's a leftist? So he meant to kill her or what? I guess i do not understand, that accidents do happen. But it surely doesnt mean that all of us would freely admit that we shot her if we were in his shoes. Easy to judge when the shoe is on someone else's foot!! FYI I AM NOT ANTI GUN

@patclair9555

2 жыл бұрын

@@timb8095 That’s plausible. It takes consciousness and discipline to keep ones finger out of the trigger guard until it becomes muscle habit. It’s easy to make a mistake , but with a firearm you must be 100% responsible. Negligent homicide here for sure, however it is phrased in that states laws.

Alec is afraid of dropping the soap. Now he is just making excuses.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Hehehe...that may very well be what's driving him now.

@patrickmajor9837

2 жыл бұрын

If only he had dropped the hammer safely he wouldn't be worried about dropping the soap

@richardlau2447

2 жыл бұрын

Alec can do soap operas too, swathe tears?

I totally agree with your statement!!! First off Baldwin NEVER verified that the firearm was safe himself, I was taught by my fathers friend whom taught me how to shoot, and he first showed me on how to handle a firearm when it is handed to a person, the giver first verifies that the firearm is safe for handling, then hands it to the receiver, the receiver verifies that the firearm is safe for handling themselves! Second, you always handle the firearm as if its loaded, and never point the Firearm at anything you do not intend to shoot at! Baldwin failed miserably at his handling of the said firearm, then trying to cover up the killing of the cinematographer by placing the blame on the armorer, then the assistant director, and now the firearm!! FIRST OFF BALDWIN, YOU POINTED A FIREARM AT A PERSON AND DRAWN THE HAMMER BACK AND LET LOOSE OF THE HAMMER WHILE HOLDING THE TRIGGER, WHEN YOUR FINGER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE FRAME ABOVE THE TRIGGER!!! YOU SHOT THAT YOUNG LADY, MOTHER AND WIFE THAT WAS YOUR CINEMATOGRAPHER ON YOUR FAILED FILM, NO ONE ELSE WAS HOLDING THE FIREARM BUT YOURSELF, YOU, YOURSELF FAILED TO FOLLOW A FEW VERY EASY RULES, THEN YOU SHOULD BE HELD AS A MURDERER WITH CONSPIRACY TO HIDE THE FACTS OF A HOMICIDE BY FIREARM!!

I've worked on 13 indie and major films and TV shows. 8 of which involved using firearms. On one indie I was property master and supplied the firearms. Normally a dummy round is loaded with a little birdshot, instead of powder, behind the bullet. This gives an audible noise when the armourer shakes the cartridge before loading.The primers are dealt with in two ways. If the rear of the cartridge will be seen on camera, they are put in a skillet on a hot plate, to cook/burn off the charge, before being seated in the cartridge case. If they won't be seen in close up, as is most cases, a fired primer is used for the cartridge, which gives a visual check that is used before loading.

My first gun safety class I was 7 years old. The first thing I learned was the difference between a gun and a pencil. The one difference that counts is that the pencil has an eraser. The second thing was that every gun is loaded until the eye sees it is not. The instructor was 80+ I can still hear him say "Words, arrows, and bullets...you can't call them back, use wisdom in your choices as if they are written in stone, meekness is not weakness, but power under control." I watched Alex Baldwin say he didn't pull the trigger in that interview, he sounds like he has told himself at least 500 times that he didn't, he sounds conflicted, his eyes tell a different story.

@markhampson2827

2 жыл бұрын

brilliantly put. the writer before generously called it an accident. you do not have accidents with guns. you do not hoon around on the motorway in a powerful car with no licence & just call it an accident- baldwin clearly should not have been trusted to put his hand near a gun without proper instruction, respect, & a licence. our old man taught us gun safety from our first cork guns & spud guns even. do NOT point at people- never at eyes, cos you only have 2, & they cant be fixed. wont bring anyone back, but when they lock baldwin up they can throw away the key.

@oldnumber5866

2 жыл бұрын

They didn’t have a gun safety class when I was a kid but I’ve sat through my son’s hunter safety course and a couple of classes for my grandchildren’s hunter safety course. It’s a great review of stuff that I’ve forgotten over time. These were all taught by NRA quailed instructors. If Baldwin had taken a class, maybe this never would of happened.

@bjodaddyo

2 жыл бұрын

You are right about the eyes. They are the windows to the soul and they reveal what's inside.

@richspillman4191

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldnumber5866 My grandfather told me to never look down the barrel of ANY gun, one you are holding or the one held by someone else, if they don't know what they are doing by pointing, tell them to put it away or leave until they do. Safety can be shared and help multiple degrees from the source. Imagine if Baldwin had a grandfather take him as a child to a safety course, we might not know who he was.

@TrueFork

2 жыл бұрын

If he had handled the weapon responsibly then the lady would not be dead. He didn't check. He cocked. He aimed at her.

I agree 100% Alec Baldwin needs to be accountable for his action and taking a human life

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

He should be held to the same standard the rest of us plain folk would be held to if we'd shot a Hollywood camera girl and another feller.

A Smug Elitist , yep that's him. I remember reading a story about when he first saw his now wife she caught his eye when she walked into the room, he walked over to her told her who he was gave her his phone number and told her to ring him which she obviously did, but I couldn't help thinking this the behaviour of a super confident individual with a very decent opinion of himself.

Well spoken, sir. As a gun aficionado and Hunter Safety Instructor, I feel very strongly on this topic. There is no delegation of responsibility when you have a gun in your hand. You, and only you, are accountable for what, where, when and how anything comes out of the barrel of that firearm. NO ONE should "assume" a gun is unloaded. A GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED. The reason there are four basic rules of firearm safety are to prevent exactly what happened in this case. Ignore any one, or all and guess what? The gun goes bang and someone dies. I'm so sorry this happened, but Mr. Baldwin needs to accept responsibility for his actions, as do all responsible citizens.

Alec broke the first rule of gun safety, plain and simple.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

That he did.

@TheJacklikesvideos

2 жыл бұрын

He broke every single one.

@hankkingsley9183

2 жыл бұрын

And that happens constantly on any movie set with a lot of gun play. Many, many times you as an actor will be pointing a firearm at another person, it's quite common. The rules of gun safety are different on a film, and that's why film sets with a lot of guns employ an armorer.

@robkeener7740

2 жыл бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183 that’s a fair point

@anthonydrake4244

2 жыл бұрын

@@hankkingsley9183 He said that Ms Rodriques... the AQrmorer/prop manager gave him a gun safety brief,,, but when Baldwin talks about why he didn't check the weapon himself.. he speaks about an armorer from a different movie. I'm willing to bet the woman spoke about not assuming the condition of the weapon and about not pointing it at anyone whether he thought it empty or not. Him attempting to say he had no responsibility in this incident is a statement meant for people who've never handled a firearm, never been given a gun safety lecture.

Anyone that picks up a firearm and it goes off and kills someone, should be held responsible for any damage caused. If you’re not trained in the correct handling of firearms, then you have absolutely no business picking it up in the first place.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Amen.

A witness was quoted saying Baldwin was playing with that gun, not "rehearsing a scene"--he was wanting to make the cinematographer squeal by shooting a blank at her. She was on a horse with another director--they were riding around as if on a dude ranch--they were ALL playing cowboys on that set. They had been out in the desert shooting live rounds for the fun of it the previous day. He's guilty of a wrongful death.

Hey plowboy I just got done doing a CAD material analysis on the Colt Single Action Army. On the subject of the safety notch. Using a steel that's very close to the strength of the very first Colt Single Action Army. ( I did this because it would be the weakest form of all) (if I did this test with the steel that is actually used in the modern guns all number will be around double). It takes 800 to 1000 ft lb for it to start failing. the failure point is the trigger pin. And its first failure is just bending. For catastrophic failure add 50 more foot-pounds. So this means we're looking at a drop of around 15 ft of a fully-loaded single-action onto the back of the hammer on a very hard concrete style surface. Also maybe falling from a sprinting horse might come close. But we did find failure fairly easy if somebody pulled the trigger with the gun in the safety notch at around 100 to 120 inch pounds. This would share off the safety notch. Before breaking trigger. The CAD software I used, is what we use for building race engines. And in all real-world tests we find it comes closer than 1%. I still have the video coming of real-world drop test. But I plan on going 9 ft no further to prove this point. Also Garrett and I have been looking over the military adoption paperwork where this whole safety problem apparently shows up and it's not in there at all. All failures we found were listed as noticeable defective parts. But we're looking... I hope you'll find this information pleasing. As before you.. I found no one who believe this to be overhyped but me. Thanks for giving me the confidence to move forward with this..

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I have pulled the trigger in the safety notch on the Pietta Cimarron I have fairly hard...and it didn't break, any of the times I've done it. (I got irritated once at seeing so much garbage online concerning the notch and I wanted to see for myself) I like what you're doing and look forward to hearing more.

@snappers_antique_firearms

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost like I said in my post I used the closest steel to the very first Single Action Armys that were ever made. so the numbers would be a lot weaker than modern guns. Every number I gave you could almost double about 1.6×s for any single action made after about 1900 or newer. Which would make sense that most people couldn't break them now. And I went with the weakest numbers so no one could argue at all that during anytime of this weapons life it was unsafe. Plus when i saw how high the numbers were I figured the arguments already over... Cheers

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@snappers_antique_firearms Sounds like you're just the man to test it and put the results out.

@snappers_antique_firearms

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost well i finally found a good use for the years I went to engineering school. And not so much anymore.. I built and designed performance engines. And built race cars I sold my company. Because my health is not the best. But at least I have the tools and ability to put these things to the test. being an engineer. seeing this gun and hearing the rumors. it did not make sense to me.

He will not accept responsibility for his actions, he's an actor and that's what he's doing now. He broke so many rules himself, that he should know.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@michaelwaninger3155

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how he now suddenly remembers he didn't pull the trigger. Tomorrow he'll remember he never had the gun.

@fixedit8689

2 жыл бұрын

He’s an actor, it wasn’t him but the character he was portraying

@TeamCheap1

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwaninger3155 Yep, next it will have been his stunt double and that he wasn't even on set that day. How many stories does he think he has to tell before we believe one, no more stories just the truth alec. There were problems ignored before this, he failed to check the gun himself and he failed basic gun safety by pointing it at someone/something you don't want to kill/destroy unless he wanted her dead for some reason but that's a whole other thing. You'd have to be the best actor ever to act your way out of this.....he's screwed.

Great video my dad and I had a Colt Army ,44 magnum single action pease maker. We hunted deer with it. Great gun and bullet. I target practiced with it but first I learned how to use it. Practice practice practice. I had a single action 45 ACP Colt 1911A1 to. I had been hunting I saw a 5 pointer 40 yards come out of the brush on me. I couldn't get to my 3006 Remington 742 auto. It was on my shoulder. I took at out trusty 45 ACP and aimed but tripped over a route it did not see and my finger squeezed the trigger by mistake. The round hit the ground Infront of the buck. He stood there looking at this dumb ass hunter then walked away. Accidents happen. Good thing I was alone, just the deer and nothing behind him. I was aiming down at the time bring up the weapon to look through the sites. I been in law enforcement and security my whole life. Gun safety course as a kid. Family of Marines teaching me. But I still made a mistake.

Texan here born and raised around guns all of my life and I agree with you brother 💯.

If Alec does in fact get charged, his statements will definitely come back to hurt him in court. The first thing your attorney tells you is "do not discuss any details of the case with anyone, not a word". I have been listening to Alec's statements in total disbelief, as also clearly shown and stated in this video. The Judge and the Jury will not buy his story either. Great video!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

He certainly wasn't wise in doing this interview, from a legal defense standpoint....but it's not the first time his impulses have overridden his better judgement.

@aussiviking604

2 жыл бұрын

The best thing he could have done, say nothing. Wait till after the coroner's report.

@PaulJersey

2 жыл бұрын

@@aussiviking604 good point. Even if he is not criminally charged all his statements will harm his civil trial defense.

@garyblack8717

2 жыл бұрын

His only hope is that the gun that fired the round ends up having a ground sere, but even then, he should have known if that gun had a bad trigger and not used it, ESPECIALLY EVER with live rounds.

@PaulJersey

2 жыл бұрын

@@garyblack8717 …...It’s possible that it was a modified gun. LE has the gun so they will know if it was.

he said he felt no guilt, that interview with George was to show his acting skills when he started fake crying. The only way the tears were real if he was thinking of all the law suits

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

That was really sorry of him, too...saying he felt no guilt.

@roypatterson7866

2 жыл бұрын

Baldwin is a Socialpath and will never take responsibility for this shooting.

Well, you at least have to give Baldwin credit for one thing. He says he didn't pull the trigger and doesn't know who did. But he's eager to help out in the search to find out who did.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Heheh....even though he doesn't feel the least bit responsible, he'll search the whole earth for the "guilty" party :)

@douglasturner6153

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Well, maybe he can join O.J. Simpson. Wasn't he supposed to be looking for the real killer of Nicole and Ron.

i think Baldwin had been inspired by Binger in the Rittenhouse case, where he stated: this gun has been checked by someone else that it is unloaded, then picked it up, pointed it at the jury with his finger on the trigger.

Very well said sir! It does make me mad that he has handled guns for years but refused to learn and practice gun safety because he is against guns. Now he is basically insulting everyone in America by assuming we are all as ignorant on the subject as he is.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

That sums it up.

@deborahcarroll2172

2 жыл бұрын

I think he does know the safety rules. They are given to anyone who handles a gun on set. I think he just puts himself above the rules. He couldn't be bothered to take the time to do gun safety. Now, he has to come up with a story to cover his butt. If he didn't pull the trigger, and of course he says he didn't, then the gun did it all on its own. Trouble is, most people understand that guns don't shoot themselves.

@mistyize

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. That gun made it through 3 people's hands before it was fired, and nobody knew the gun was loaded. All three people should have checked the gun, but one of them had the job to, and STILL didn't check it! The irresponsibly all around is baffling.

@BillStraub303

2 жыл бұрын

To tell the truth I believe they all knew there were rounds in the gun, the shot they were after was a front angled shot where they could see the cylinder turning and see there were rounds in the chamber. The problem is the people on set had little REAL firearms knowledge and could not tell the difference between a live and dummy round. That’s why you keep hearing about no live rounds should have been on set, cause it was standard practice to handle firearms with rounds loaded in them, just not live ones. Some of the actors in the industry stepping forward to comment have said what makes most sense is pointing the gun in a safe direction and firing it 6 times is what he should have done.

1. Treat every gun as if it’s loaded. 2. Never point/ aim at your target.. unless you know/ verify your target. 3. Never fire your firearm until you know what’s behind your target. Most rounds will pass through your target and keep going.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@mal15102

2 жыл бұрын

+ Don't put your finger in the trigger guard until you are ready to fire. = Col Cooper's four rules of firearm safety. I would only add, "Don't touch a firearm unless you understand it's operation.

You are 100% correct sir. Thank you for your time and effort educating , explaining, and giving us some common sense and proper perspective into this sad and tragic situation. This was not an accident, this was negligence, and a crime.

In a proper gun shop, when handing a firearm to a customer, that has been sitting empty in a shelf, put there (empty) by the proper gun shop employee, the gun shop employee, inspects the weapon (by removing mag, working the action, and inspecting the chamber) to see that it is empty, shows the customer that it is empty, (all without pointing the empty weapon at humans). When presented with the firearm, the proper customer, goes through the same process of examining for himself that the firearm is empty, (all without pointing the empty firearm at humans). Once the customer is finished examining the firearm, the customer goes through the same process of inspecting and showing the gun shop employee that the firearm is empty before presenting the empty firearm to the gun shop employee. All of this (seemingly excess checking) is done to: 1 - Make sure no one gets shot 2 - Affirm that responsibility for safety ALWAYS and ONLY lies with the person who is holding the firearm.

I've only shot one single action revolver in my life, and it was a ruger 357 that looked like yours. I agree with you 100%. He f-ed up, he needs to own up to it.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. The first step to making anything right with someone you've wronged/harmed is owning up to your mistake.

Good sir, I believe Alex has already defeated the “it’s the gun” argument. During his roadside rant/interview he said (Paraphrasing) “how many bullets have been shot in Hollywood? A billion?” Yes, perhaps a billion and with an extremely high safety and success rate. So unless every actor has been killing people and we don’t know about, all of the other actors are doing something right during their movies.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Heheh

Many years ago, I took the armorer test in NYC in order to work as an armorer on a couple of movies. The process that SHOULD have been followed - 1. All firearms should have been under the complete control of the armorer. All ammunition (of any sort, to include dummy rounds, blanks, etc) is under the control of the armorer - under lock and key. 2. No firearm should be in the hand of any actor unless placed in that hand by the armorer and the actor given the required safety briefing (yes, every time - it's a pain in the ass and ridiculously repetitive, but that is the standard). 3. The safety briefing includes specifics on the specific firearm, arcs in which they are allowed to point it, and the dangers of blanks if blanks are in use (and yes, blanks are dangerous). The safety arcs are such that no live weapon (including blank firing weapons) should ever be actually pointed at a person (camera angles and lens choices allow for lots of ways for making it look like people are pointing guns at other people when they are not). That is regardless of the loaded status of the weapon. If you actually need to point a weapon at someone, you use a rubber gun or a non-firing replica - in other words, a weapon that CANNOT fire at all. Alec Baldwin has had hundreds (if not thousands) of these safety briefings. In addition, he was the person responsible for hiring the armorer. A lot of stuff went wrong, obviously, and the crew complaints about unsafe practices point directly to the Executive Producer (who happens to be Alec Baldwin). But even ignoring the shortcomings of how the film set was handled - 1. Alec Baldwin should have checked the status of the weapon himself (because it was not handed to him by the armorer). 2. Alec Baldwin should NEVER have pointed the weapon at anyone. 3. Alec Baldwin should not have been practicing whatever he claims to have been practicing without having the weapon pointing "downrange" - in a safe direction. 4. Alec Baldwin should never have cocked the hammer with the weapon pointed at someone else (or even in their general direction). 5. Alec Baldwin should never have pulled the trigger with the weapon pointed at someone else (or even in their general direction). Given the number of times that Alec Baldwin has been given safety briefings by experienced armorers in his career, he can't claim to not be aware of any of this. But he did it anyway.

One day, I decided to finally get my TV working again after months of letting it sit there, and what do you know, the first thing that came on the antenna was that Alec Baldwin and Edward Norton… and I was like oh my god. Of all things… 🧐

I did read a short interview of the armorer or expert on that film scene. Her father was a famous armorer but what she related in that article left me believing that she really didn't have any knowledge of firearm safety at all. I think it happened just as it was initially reported, someone handed Alec a loaded gun without checking it for live ammo. Alec being an actor and relying on his crew did what he does best, started acting. Low and behold, the gun was loaded with live rounds and Alec, doing his acting, unwillingly or even accidentally shot and killed a young lady and wounded another man. This was preventable. A lot of people dropped the ball on this one. What Alec is saying now is nothing more than trying to cover his behind.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. There were multiple failures in safety. Alec is indeed trying to act his way out of his portion of responsibility.

@TightwadTodd

2 жыл бұрын

Other actors are Calling BS on Baldwin and saying Safety protocol on set and of the actor handling the gun,has been in place and practiced since the Brandon Lee incident..Even CNN had a firearms expert on today explaining a single action and saying,,Nope aint buy'n it..

@TightwadTodd

2 жыл бұрын

@Jerry Davis The point was,that Even CNN isnt covering for the guy and calling BS.. They are eating their own and i love it..

@windwalker5765

2 жыл бұрын

IMO, Baldwin is operating on two levels. As an actor, and as a producer. As an actor, he was not responsible. There is too much going on, and time is too tight, for the actor to be doing weapons checks. Trusting the armorer and prop master is standard procedure on movies and has been for years, with extremely few accidents. This is especially true when the gun is _supposed to look loaded,_ but with blanks or dummies that only an expert can tell apart from live rounds. If he were only an actor on this movie, I would say it's not his fault. However, as a producer, he cheaped out on safety across the board, which is why the union crew left. He hired the inexperienced armorer and unsafe assistant director. And he is responsible for the safety failures of his employees. I would say from a criminal law perspective, the armorer and AD have the primary responsibility and should be looking at first degree manslaughter. Baldwin has a lower level of responsibility and ought to face second degree manslaughter or reckless endangerment.

@JohnLloydScharf

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost There are many rules of safety and all of them were taught by the NRA. Alec Baldwin broke them because he is a narcissistic psychopath. If you had done this you would be in jail without bail. But, then, if you had done what Hunter Biden did, you would be doing more time in prison than Martha Steward did for insider trading. Prison is too good for him. Banish him to Plum Island.

I agree 100% with everything you have said. Guns don't kill people, people kill people period never point a gun with a loaded or unloaded at any living thing, and never ever ever put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire that weapon.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

In order to lower the hammer, you'll have to put your finger on the trigger whether you're ready to fire or not....on several types of firearms........but as you said, never point it at any living thing you don't want shot.

In the Santa Fe Police conference & news, i've saw two things : - They put a warrant on an ammo box who content a mix of live ammo & prop ammo. Both type of ammo wear the same tag use to recognize a prop ammo on this movie set. They think than the ammo is coming from this box. - The model of the revolver is a Pietta SAA colt 45. And i know than this pietta model have a common issue. The first clic is not always working. It mean than if you drop the hammer, the hammer will shot the bullet. For ammo, mostly, people use S&W cardridge ammo. Who are made with Black powder (like when you fill a black powder cylinder of a remington 1858). And this type of ammo is super sensitive, even a little knock can activate the ammo and shoot the bullet. But i was not on the movie set when it happen. I just don't like those "pro" who say than it's the fault of Baldwin. Because if the live ammo was tagged with the prop ammo tag used on the movie set, he couldn't have known what was in the gun. And we don't even know if he pointed to gun to someone. For me, all of that is an accident coming from a disfunction of the pietta, negligence of the crew who are supposed to manage ammo & guns, unexperienced user mistake. (You know, it's common for beginner to keep your finger on the trigger without knowing it. So, when you pull the hammer, and release it, it fire. For me, it's what he said when he said "The gun shoot by himself". It's still just an actor and not a pro with firearms). The DA and the Santa Fe police are really trying to make a fair investigation run by evidence. You can't accuse them for doing a dirty job on this case. Even the FBI is on the investigation.

I'm an Aussie and even I new he was full of crap with his "It fire itself" argument.

I believe he subconsciously already had the trigger pressed while pulling the hammer back which is extremely common for people who don’t have trigger finger discipline and the hammer slipped free and sailed right past all of the notches because he still had the trigger pulled.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I see several Hollywood types tout their "experience" with firearms, but I doubt they have in 20+ years of acting in movies with guns, the real world experience with firearms that a daily carrier in the real world has in a couple years.

@RunDub

2 жыл бұрын

That's been my theory all along as well. He may not have yanked on it, but he likely had far more pressure on it than he thinks he did.

@johnsadler8637

2 жыл бұрын

I think this hypothesis is the most likely explanation. He might not even remember his finger on the trigger. Or he wanted to decock so pulled it before the thumb slipped. Either way, it’s a massive foul up. That still lieaves the question of the live round. Is there confirmation that the armorer was quarantined and the weapon was both unattended and transported by yet another person?

@reg4211

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense.

@politicallycorrectredskin796

2 жыл бұрын

I think there might be something wrong with me. When I encounter the level of mental gymnastics and lateral thinking required in order to make the absolutely absurd levels of negligence and....magic make sense here, I just assume it was premeditated murder to simplify it in my head. "Brilliant! I can shoot the bitch and claim it was an accident, and all the peasants will believe it! MWAHAHAHAAHAA! I think I might be some sort of evil genius! Maybe I should get a cape? And a theme song!" Am I really the only one? Is there some kind of a cynic support group I should join?

Confession time. I will be first to admit that I *have* had a negligent discharge of a single action revolver, and I will fully admit that it was User Error. After a thorough breakdown and cleaning, I had reloaded the pistol and set it aside to put away my tools. Only then noticed I hadn't tightened the hammer spring screw on the front of the grip. Foolishly I picked up the revolver, forgetting to check the gun before continuing working on it, I tightened the screw, pointed at the corner and tested the hammer for tension.. Blam! Took only an instant to recognize where I had been nevlegent, forgetting that i had reloaded the pistol momemts before. Now I've carried handguns every day for well over a decade, but sure as hell I felt like a bloody greenhorn when that happened. That said, I was Very lucky nobody was harmed, and nothing of consequence was destroyed, as i was still following the other important tenets of firearm safety. Dinae point at anything you aren't intending to shoot. So i cursed my negligence, thanked God for nobody being hurt, and tossed out the busted toolbox which was the only casualty. I keep that mangled boolet in my desk drawer as a reminder that carelessness and guns do not mix, and can happen to anyone at any time, so as to be extra careful to check and check again the condition of any firearm after picking it up. The reason for this long winded confession, is not ONCE have i ever considered blaming the gun for going off. It was MY failure to recheck my chambre before pulling the trigger, not the gun. Yes i pointed in a safe direction, and thankfully this one instance has been my only negligent discharge, but i still count meself lucky that things hadn't ended worse. Alec broke more than one rule that day, he broke All of them. He didn't know the condition of his firearm, he intentionally pointed it at a person, and intentionally fired at someone he didn't want to shoot. Let his, and my own carelessness be a lesson to folk. Guns are tools, very useful and a blast to own. But dinae let repetition of the Rules of safety lead to complacency. ALWAYS check your gun after setting it down or working on it, and unlike Alec, NEVER point at Anyone you dinae want to shoot, intentional or otherwise. Stay safe, stay armed, and God Bless you all.

@danjohnson6870

2 жыл бұрын

I’m guilty of negligence too brother

@bruceb9515

2 жыл бұрын

I'm guilty too brother. Without going into specifics... I shot a hole through my leg 2 years ago. By Gods grace I missed my femoral artery and bone, just a clean pass through from a FMJ. God protects fools and children sometimes. But we learn and we try to never make that mistake again. My accident humbled me deeply. I still feel shame.

@davidshechtman4746

2 жыл бұрын

I don't even keep ammo in the same room as my gun smithing stuff. If I need to check function, well let's just say that I usually buy a grip of snap caps in the appropriate caliber a week or two before I intend to purchase any given firearm as a matter of principle.

@danjohnson6870

2 жыл бұрын

@@bruceb9515 I’m still very humbled also

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

There's a .45 Colt sized hole in my bed and the floor beneath it. There's a 255-gr lead .45 Colt bullet in the dirt under the house. There was a (transfer bar) Ruger New Vaquero involved, and a thumb that slipped off the hammer when it was being lowered.....with the trigger held rearward. Nobody else was in the room, and I learned a valuable lesson from that one, years ago.

Alex Baldwin will NEVER EVER see the inside of a jail cell !!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I really don't figure he will, either.

I could be mistaken, as well, but I believe you are exactly correct. I participated in Cowboy Action Shooting for three years. And even though I used Ruger Vaqueros, I am familiar with Colt revolvers. I reject the idea that he didn't pull the trigger. But I could be wrong.

A good discussion on responsibility. I’ve been shooting since I was 5. That was 1963. Just subscribed to your channel sir. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Very kind of you. Thank YOU, sir,.

Very valid points. You can never take that bullet back once it leaves the gun. I’m afraid his anti gun values have caught up with him. We that use guns as they are intended know the basic rules of firearm safety. Thanks for keeping it real!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@richardlau2447

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your explanation for us who don’t handle guns.

The investigating police department's forensic people are going to examine the action of that pistol in excruciating detail and file a report as to it's condition. That report will be entered into states evidence at his prosecution, and/or into plaintiff's evidence at his civil trial. If the examination finds no mechanical defects in the firearm, any notion by the Baldwin camp of deflecting blame onto the weapon, or it's manufacturer will instantly evaporate. Furthermore, any trained gunsmith can offer expert testimony as to how a single action revolver actually works, how simple the action is, and how safe an undamaged one actually is. Lastly, any number of trained firearms instructors can offer expert testimony as to the number one and number two rules of handling firearms: 1. ALWAYS immediately check a firearm to see if it's loaded, before you do ANYTHING else with it. 2. NEVER point a firearm at something, or someone you do not intend to actually shoot. So the guy will have to face the facts that there was nothing broken, or damaged in the pistol (pending investigation), so it couldn't discharge itself, he failed to check to see if it was loaded, he cocked it, pointed it at people and pulled the trigger. Game over. Accident, or not, it's a homicide that he is responsible for.

Alex's father was a gun expert and shooting coach for decades when Alex was growing up ..Alex is an actor ,this is him acting like he dosent believe someone brought a live round on his set ....he lies and lies when he says he thought his victim fainted and he didn't know for 45 minutes that he shot someone

The mark of an adult is the willingness to take responsibility for one's actions, especially one's mistakes. Too many on the left do not want to be adults.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

True words.

@craigpennington1251

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself. 100% Correct & True.

@deerieman5220

2 жыл бұрын

In addition, my husband is a gun enthusiast and is a Democrat. Go figure...

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@deerieman5220 I'd argue that he either doesn't understand the conflict in those two things, or he doesn't REALLY support the 2A. There are a lot of people who vote Dem who also hunt and own guns the Dems spend billion$ trying to demonize and ban. There are countless people who vote Dem who are on a budget that has been severely impacted by the increased fuel costs that Dem policies are driving skyward. There are a LOT of really confused, intellectually inconsistent people going to the polls on election day...and they're costing ALL of us regular folks.

The more I watch, the more I listen, the more I learn, the more I am convinced this was NOT an accident.

@largol33t1

2 жыл бұрын

Remember, it's Smart-Alec Baldwin involved here. He's one of the most arrogant, hateful, violent pricks I've ever heard of on mainstream media. He LOVES to bash people and slander them viciously. It's time for Trump to start up his own talk show. I'd love to watch him imitate Smart-Alec for once. The ONLY thing Smart-Alec has done in the last few years (other than beat his ex-wife and threaten Trump supporters) was try to mock and make fun of Trump because he wasn't a Democrat.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

It's negligence, at the very least.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@largol33t1 Alec certainly didn't endear himself to me, either.

@SegoMan

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how the woman he killed posted on her F B page a week prior to the shooting that her hubby (a Klinton Klan Attorney) had cht on his boss that would lock them up. So I give Alec a 1% benefit of the doubt as the Klinton Klan has the resources to pull this off all while framing Alec for it.

@joshualandry3160

2 жыл бұрын

Alec has one consistent trait. He blows up. I don’t think he could keep his cool long enough to fake an accident if he was in a killing mood.

When the vast majority of movies don't show switching mags or reloading.... and almost all are fully automatic, I don't expect much from Hollywood... Also, of all the youtubers that I watch, you're the first to actually put a link in the description

When you're handling a gun you're responsible for everything about that gun,you're responsible for checking to see what's in it,who you point it at and also for it going off.

Rule #1 never talk about fight club Rule #2 when you are holding a gun you are 100% responsible for anything that it does. Rule #3 nothing absolutely nothing can ever change rule #2

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Have you ever taught gun safety to someone new to guns? The most common mistake they make is having their finger on the trigger while simply holding the gun. If his finger was on the trigger already, there is no need to pull it. Untrained people almost always pick up and hold a gun with their finger on the trigger. A simple safety class would have saved a life!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt. There are guns (single action revolvers come first to mind) that will never, ever fire with the hammer down on an empty chamber, no matter what Jedi power we try to use, by having one's finger in the trigger guard. I deal with safety nazzzzzzies frequently who are focused in one whether I'm following the book to the T in my videos. I can't imaging pointing a gun at someone and not only having my finger on the trigger, but COCKING it with my finger in the trigger guard. That's what Alec had to have done, in my mind.

Totally agree, you must either pull the trigger or be holding the trigger back when you release the hammer for a SA Colt to fire.

@wanaraz

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's what happened and why he says he did not pull the trigger. The trigger was already locked back with his finger

Imagine someone preaching about the "evils of the gun" get exposed as someone who knows nothing about guns and do literally everything one shouldn't do with guns...

Alec has the biggest ego imaginable. The nerve of that guy, blaming everyone when he is the one that thought it was cute to play around unsafely with a gun

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

He sure messed up. I can pray for his soul, but I damn his judgement.

“Let this be a lesson to all of us.” Best statement of the year!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I try to find some value, even in tragedy. Thanks.

If any law suits are entertained they will be met by very well protected SA revolver safety features and if I am on that jury they will lose.

The thing is, we can check if the gun Alec used was deficient or not. The police can perform tests to see if they can discharge the gun without pulling the trigger. If they can, it could give weight to what he said, but if not, he's screwed if he's prosecuted.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I figure the gun is being/has been tested for function. I hope so, anyway.

The way I heard it, the armorer was 24 yrs old! No old enough to have much experience.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I had had a good bit by that age, but there's no way in the world that i would've had enough to be responsible fora crew of other people handling firearms. there is the issue of maturity /discipline at 24, as well.

@f.b.8254

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to know who hired her! It's damn lucky more people didn't wind up dead on that set. Why aren't all you Trump fans -- who should not be bringing politics into this discussion, it does not apply here, at all! - not finding fault with whoever put that girl in the job of Armoror, with no real experience in gun safety, on a goddman WESTERN of all things? Alec didn't hire her, that was not his job, to oversee that. WHOSE JOB WAS IT? And why not also add that person to the pile of "Who is to blame"?

an amateur handling a firearm is as intelligent as a dementia victim handling the nuclear football.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Heheh...IU see what you did there :)

My thirty-plus year old Uberti SAA does not have a "safe-cock" hammer position, but my 40 year old Colt manufactured SAA does. Having watched this and other videos, I'm somewhat surprised it has taken me this long to find that out. Appears that the Uberti's and other importers have seen the light now.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

My 2020 built Cimarron (Uberti) 1873 7th Cav. model SAA and my 2021 built Cimarron (Uberti) USV Artillery model 1973 SAA clones both have all three hammer positions/4-clicks just like a Colt. The new Uberti "Pre-War" frames are Cattleman II retracting firing pin models. Cimarron still sells "Old Model framed " SAA clones that are true to form like the Colt...thankfully. It is a very unpopular "light" that Uberti has seen, and it has cost them a lot of business with me. If I were unversed in the Colt pattern gun and were/felt like the 1873 design was too much for me, I'd buy a lawyered up modern Ruger made to resemble a historic gun from 50-feet away. I like my historic replicas more historically accurate.

Alec is absolutely culpable for this. As is the production company for providing such an unsafe work environment. Just shouting "cold gun" is not safe gun handling. And you don't have to be a firearm "expert" to handle guns safely.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I certainly wouldn't trust the word of another. I even safety check NEW guns AT the dealer.

I owned at one time a 1973 Ruger super Blackhawk in .44 magnum. It was the old style fixed firing pin hammer with the three click cocking mechanism. Kept fully loaded with five rounds it never once just fired on it's own. It took three clicks cocking and a trigger pull to shoot it.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Mine haven't gone "Baldwin" on anyone, either.....thankfully.

One point that is not being discussed: The pistol that was fired WAS NOT a prop! It was Baldwin's own pistol that he had been using earlier target shooting. Why was a real firearm on the set to begin with? Something is fishy here.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

There are real firearms in many movies. There are some with obvious props, but especially with us 19th Century firearms fans, it's hard to get an inauthentic firearm past us on screen. I think there should be a primer ban on movie sets. Anyone could see the hole in the rear of the case and not have to interpret or guess about the safety level of that firearm at the moment.

@michaelgarrow3239

2 жыл бұрын

What! Mr. Baldwin was the one shooting? He brought live Ammo on set?!!! That is a big breach of procedure and grounds for immediate removal from the sat. Prop gun is like saying wood-splitter ax, or construction hammer…

@tombworld9012

2 жыл бұрын

'Prop' doesn't mean fake, it means 'property of the studio.' It's anything used in a movie that isn't scenery. A prop chair can be used for its primary purpose, sitting, because it is a real chair.

@michaelgarrow3239

2 жыл бұрын

Tombworld - prop A copy paste from IATSE local On occasion, prop weapons will be used in a show. These can range from impact weapons to bladed weapons to firearms. It is important to realize that all prop weapons are weapons first and props second, and must be treated as such. Mishandling prop weapons can cause serious injuries and may you legally liable for any accidents.

@johnc2438

2 жыл бұрын

Real or fake, if they're used on a movie set, they're called props. Same goes for a kitchen scene: refrigerator, stove, microwave, pots, pans -- they're all "real" but they're also now called props. When I was working part-time at the Broadway Department Store (Hollywood & Vine) while in college, occasionally a productions assistant would come in (for a TV show or movie) and start buying real furniture and accessories to use as movie props. Yes, they're real, but they're also props in movie jargon. Did John Wayne use fake Colts and Winchesters? Did Clint Eastwood use fake guns in his Westerns and as Dirty Harry? Did Roy Rogers and Gene Autry use rubber or fake guns in their movies way back in the 1940's and 1950's? Did James Arness use a rubber or fake gun on his long-running TV series "Gunsmoke"? No -- to all these examples! They used the real thing -- but on set they were props -- and they were handled with extraordinary caution and care. Real firearms have been used on movie and TV film sets for more than century. The only "fishy" part is the general public's not understanding of how real -- and, yes, fake -- weapons are used to make movies. Real firearms are used on movie and TV film sets -- that's why you need to employ experienced, trained, mature, professional armorers who follow the rules, not hottie babes modeling bandoliers and "faking" their way into the job.

The whole crew was inept, there should have never been live ammo anywhere near the set, and since its a single action revolver they just don't go off, so Alec is a liar too, he pulled the trigger.

This was a really perfect video. I couldn't agree more with the sentiment. I'm no gun freak, not a leftists, not right wing..I belong to no party, but a huge advocate of sound logic, vetted science, and truth. I've just begun to learn about these SAA revolvers, and knew there was something fishy about Baldwin's claims. I am choosing that sad event to become highly educated on the use and operation of these firearms, especially since I have one coming in tomorrow as my Xmas gift. I agree with the fella in this video..own up to what you do, and learn from it. Don't be a Baldwin!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

"Don't be a Baldwin". I like it :) Thank you, and congrats on your inbound Christmas gift!

@DARKSIDEART2022

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost thanks man! And thanks for the great video. I'm really excited about getting mine. It's a new Uberti colt 45 clone, with the double nickel plating and ivory grips, 5.5" barrel. I've been spinning guns for over a year, but they're non firing replicas. I won't be playing games with my real one. Stay safe, and keep up the great work!

Could you go into detail how you remove the glossy finish on the wood grips and then refinish them with that softer look?

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

You mean in descriptive typed explanation or in a video?

@therealhawkeyeii7888

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Either, but a video would be great.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealhawkeyeii7888 I don't have one waiting to be done, right now, but I may describe it in the next video on single actions.

@therealhawkeyeii7888

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Excellent! Thanks.

The other possibility that Baldwin might be trying to split hairs with is,,,He had his finger pressing the trigger as he cocked the Hammer and therefore doesnt THINK,he "Pulled the trigger....

@richspillman4191

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. I can imagine him having a conversation with himself in his own mind "You didn't do that, the hammer fell off on its own, you would never do that, no, no you wouldn't I didn't even pull the trigger." He has probably had this conversation a thousand times and will a thousand more trying to convince himself, but his soul knows.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

He's not quite all there...

Beautiful beard win. Out of the 10,000 Colt demos in YT this week you and John make circumstances quite clear. Thank you. Defer and deflect indeed.

Oh yeah, I hear there was a kid who went Alec Baldwin in their school. Bang! “Oops sorry my prop gun went off”. Bang! “Damn armory was supposed to give be blanks, not my fault”. 😂

It's well known to the set, that Alec and the other director had been fighting a lot on set. I believe Alec may have tried to shoot him, and he did actually shoot him, but the projectile, or bullet as I believe it was. had hit the woman, and killed her. I don't believe that Alec was trying to shoot her at all. I believe it was that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Alec is well known for his temper. That's my take on it. as for this video, awesome. I knew this information already, but I still enjoyed see the truth come forward. Peace

Apparently Alec Baldwin does LSD .

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

He's certainly not from my neck of the woods.

@richspillman4191

2 жыл бұрын

I would count that as plausible and from history highly probable.

@armedfarm3429

2 жыл бұрын

I would bet there was booze on the set. I would also not be surprised if he was drinking.

The NRA used to have an old saying and it still holds true, "Guns don't kill people, People kill people"! We can apply this to all sorts of things, "SUVs don't kill people....", "Knives don't kill people...".

First, every gun is to be treated as if it is loaded. Whenever a gun changes hands, it needs to be cleared, even if it changes hands 10 times in a minute and you saw the person before you clearing it. Second, the finger stays off the trigger until on target. Third, a gun is only pointed at a target you are willing to destroy. These rules have been hammered in my brain, so much so it is an automatism to follow those rules. Baldwin broke all three rules. Sad consequence of his negligence will be that responsible and trained gun owners will pay a price, one way or the other. We're living in a clown world where everything illogical is accepted as the norm and everything logical is banned.

@themittonmethod1243

2 жыл бұрын

the proper level of firearm safety you mention is just ONE of the reasons that other actors (Keanu Reeves, Jason Statham, to name only two) spend many hours at the range with professional instructors practicing... so that BOTH the safety aspect AND the realism of the handling shows up in their films. cheers!

Thank you . For the thoughtful video. It's a good reminder , We need to take care in how we handle our Guns . To avoid a misfire or lose of life.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Let's don't be Alec.

He’s producing the movie therefore he’s one of the bosses.Since you’re the boss your responsibility is safety on the set especially when using a firearm.You can use dummy bullets that don’t fire.Yes with digital photography you can do anything and everything and make it look real.He doesn’t want to be sued so he’s going to lie through his teeth.Even more he doesn’t want to go to jail.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he's trying to get out in front of whatever he's going to face in court.

@steveshot81

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Yes I feel the same but that's not going to happen.He can't bullshit the lawyers.Once they go to court they will eat him alive.His best bet is to settle out of court.

Well, don't be too concerned about being "long-winded". At least not on my account. I come to channels like this looking for information on topics I don't know a whole lot about. I know guns in general, have been around them for well over 60 years, and have carried both privately and professionally for a lot of those years, but my experience with period revolvers is limited. Dad had an ancient single-action, but my brother got it after Dad passed away, which is fine by me as I already had a good sidearm. Anyway, you just said what many of us out here are thinking. And I appreciate you saying it, because the snobbery of people like Baldwin isn't forgotten--years of down-talking to ordinary Americans who treasure their 2A rights just as much as Baldwin likes his 1A rights. Although...after I heard the recording of the absolutely vile things that man said to his own 11 year old daughter, his trash-talking of us comes as no surprise. That man has some serious explaining to do when he stands before The Pearly Gates. Thanks, man!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Well put. Thank you.

I've been arguing this myself, a lot of people think it's like a Vaquero not realizing those were made for safety with a loaded round in chamber so you could carry 6 without needing the safety knotch. But like you point out staying under half cock I don't see how he (Alec) does it. Only thing I could see is if for some insane reason it's a Wild Bill special modified type without triggers and hammer pull back and release to fire. But I feel like that would have came out. Also from having broke one from fanning it, even holding the trigger down and fanning the gun tends to make the hammer catch in the long run not slip constantly. It also scars the hell out of the cylinder. Fun but not fun enough to do with any gun. That's why those quickdraw dorks get theirs with the hammer turned up so you can just sweep back instead of down and back as you do with a traditional horizontal hammer. Same thoughts as well if they just need a nice bullet for a up close shot in cylinder then why have a primer on the cartridge? I mean these are a bunch of lefties idiot hippies why allow them near live firing weapons anyways?

This armorer supposedly was a firearms expert that grew up with a gun in her hand. Her dad was a legendary armorer they say. She did not do her job and people paid a terrible price. Baldwin should be charged with some kind of negligence I think. Not murder or manslaughter. The armorer should be investigated fully. I heard Baldwin describing himself holding the trigger down while working the hammer to see what angles looked good. He doesn't mention holding the trigger down. I think he obviously had the trigger held down or he wouldn't have been able to work the hammer. Maybe he doesn't think he "pulled the trigger" because he just doesn't understand guns. Maybe he is saying things repeatedly because his high price lawyers are telling him to certain things to stick them in the minds of potential jurors.

@Nostradamus_Order33

2 жыл бұрын

Negligent homicide

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I want the truth to come out, and justice to be served blindly....no matter who gets what charge/sentence/etc.. It's my *opinion* that he is as responsible for what happened as anyone else could be on that set and more.

@SegoMan

2 жыл бұрын

He's not a spring chicken he has done many movies with guns..

@djusmc4764

2 жыл бұрын

I guess his high priced lawyers don’t know anything about firearms either, if they gave him that Bullshit Advice

Well thought, intelligent and genuine commentary. Thank you. Godspeed and Blessings to You and Yours.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and to you and yours.

@mr.perfect1er933

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Genuinely Thank You. Merry Christmas

Every "child" in EVERY school in America should have TWO gun classes EVERY YEAR from Kindergarten to 12th Grade. Three or more TRAINED Adults (law enforcement approved) should give an orientation class with playback of recorded shootings. Handling of "replica, non firing" guns should be used for identification. The MORE people know, the safer they can act in a time of trauma or stress. Panic and fear is doing more damage than bullets now. The trauma of the terrorized stays forever. The clear decisions of an informed person saves lives.

Finally, a couple of people who actually know firearms, correct terminology and the proper mechanics. So much BS out there right now gaining so much unwarranted traffic and spreading mis- information.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

I wish i had thought to include the unlikely possibility of a broken trigger tip/sear or a broken trigger spring that could have allowed the hammer to fall past the notches, but I've never had either happen in all my dozens of single actions...and consider either unlikely. Results of forensic examination of the gun will tell the truth of whether he's telling the truth. I don't think he is.

been waiting on someone to do this demo...ain't a better channel to illustrate...AB knows nothing about safety check but it is still a responsibility that if not done does not absolve anything i thought he was just playing with it when it should have been left alone unloaded

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

11BangBang did a great job of demonstrating it before I did, today. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqqhsdKmk9DdlNI.html

@gypsymonk8229

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree ! He had a lot of experience with guns....you need 3 steps to fire....and he fired TWO BULLETS....common, use common sense....the theories about " magic " bullet is BS....remember Kennedy ! His driver turned and did the " job "....

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@gypsymonk8229 I'd need to see the wound locations on both people to suspect two rounds fired. It is very (!) possible/likely that a 250-255-gr cast bullet from a .45 Colt to pass through one person and wound another...even with lower velocity "cowboy" loads.

@gypsymonk8229

2 жыл бұрын

@@plowboysghost Impossible that bullet can make that " curve "....even if it hits the bone...no bones in stomach, bro...the guy was STANDING behind and got shot in THE SHOULDER....THINK !

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@gypsymonk8229 I haven't seen/heard enough to know who was standing or kneeling, etc.....

I watched a couple others demonstrate how a Single Action revolver works and got my own out and tried to do what Alec Baldwin described. He may be in denial about it but he did pull that trigger. That's the only way that hammer would have struck the cartridge when he released the hammer. Plus when you are de-cocking a single action revolver, You keep control of the hammer all the way back down, you DO NOT let go of it! So he just confessed how he killed that young lady. As for lawsuits, the gun was mishandled after the fact so who knows what will be done to it to claim it "Malfunctioned", even though it was clearly User Error. Also, How many live rounds were in the revolver? Was there only one live round and four or five blanks or were all the rounds live? The gun should have been seized the moment the shooting happened and kept 'As Is' for the Police to take custody of when they arrived. So we may never know what loads were in the revolver at the time or the condition of the gun at the time. The situation was just so very mishandled before Law Enforcement arrived. The honorable thing Baldwin could do is just step up and own the fact of what happened and take his punishment for it. That wasn't the first firearm he ever held so he should have known to check it before pointing and manipulating it in any fashion. That's my two cents. Thanks Plowboy!

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

One way or another...in my mind, based on my experience with these guns, he absolutely pulled the trigger.

@TightwadTodd

2 жыл бұрын

Even Leftist Anti 2nd George Clooney is calling BS on Baldwin on this and says Set protocol is no different than real world firearm safety,,especially after The Brandon Lee incident..

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@TightwadTodd Yep. i saw that.

the issue i have seen, is that is a duel action gun a duel action is described as having 2 actions performed to fire the gun, first action is to pull the hammer back and the second action is to pull the trigger. A single action however is like old school cops use, you pull the trigger the hammer goes back and it fires, thats a single action performed

as much as i agree with you on this.... Alec stated this was a practice for the camera shot... so no bullets needed to be in the gun whatsoever. FYI: they have rounds that have no primers or powder in them so that the effect of seeing "bullets in the gun" can be done safely for camera shots such as this. in the end, if Alec had bothered to do his part of the firearms safety "job", then he would have either unloaded the gun or pulled back the hammer and pulled the trigger six times at the ground (which according to other actors that have posted on this subject is a industry standard) to verify no live rounds were in the chambers. the armorer shoulders a large part of the blame on this for even allowing live rounds to be used anywhere on the set in the caliber for that revolver, but in the end, Alec was the last in a series of safety steps that failed , and cost someone their life.

All good points. But why is there live rounds on a movie set? If you were aware of live ammo on the set, and it was an accident. All that knew of the live ammo should be held responsible.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

No idea why there was a live round in the gun...but the reason there was a bullet in two people is because it was pointed at someone, cocked, and the trigger was pulled with a live round in the gun. I hope the question about who loaded /why a live round was loaded is answered.

@windwalker5765

2 жыл бұрын

Reports are that the crew were using the prop guns for plinking between takes. Sounds like one was not cleared after a plinking session and returned to the arms locker with live rounds in.

@sly2792004

2 жыл бұрын

Why’s he backtracking, lying and covering up his part? If he didn’t do anything wrong.

@scottcarr3264

2 жыл бұрын

I heard, on another channel, that some of the cast were practicing with the guns with live rounds, off set but in the Area. So there were live rounds on or near the set. Alec should have EMPTIED the cylinder, before testing the camera "shot", you must ALWAYS expect the gun to be loaded unless you physically look through every hole in the cylinder, like we do on the shooting range when we check guns "clear" before going forward to check the Targets, with a single action you slowly turn the cylinder with the range officer looking through the cylinder to see that it is clear. With double action Revolvers you can "swing" the cylinder out on the "crane" and see all the holes at once.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@windwalker5765 If that's so, there were some HUGE mistakes made on set, safety wise...and this one was a real gun. Props, to my sensibilities, are fake, non-firing look alikes.

"The way would be clear for a humble man". Simply, but eloquently spoken.

@plowboysghost

2 жыл бұрын

We can ALL mess up. Even if what we do wrong is bad...real bad..., there's at least honor is honesty and contrition. I want to give the same level of consideration with a possibility of redemption that I would hope to receive, were I in his shoes,. To me...a necessary part of that is humility.

@timlarson4315

2 жыл бұрын

Such a beautiful sentiment. Very well stated.

Apparently the gun had enough of baldwins arrogance, waited for the perfect moment, then fired itself in order to frame him.

Ever since the BALDWIN ACCIDENT I have tried and tried to get my Uberti SAA to fire by itself. Uncocked, the revolver refuses to fire no matter what I do. Half cocked, with my finger off the trigger, same result. Even fully cocked, without hitting the hammer with...well a hammer, still no accidental fire. But, I've only owned guns for about 60 years.

I had a Ruger SA with the safety transfer bar. Cannot force that hammer down in safety or half cock position or full cock. Only way that hammer will fall is if the trigger is pulled. I believe Mr. Baldwin's statement is in error.

@coypatton3160

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with your statement, if the firearm remains ad designed and produced by the factory. However, to say that it can not be “modified” to function as Baldwin stated is a stretch I am not willing to state. Neither is the producer of this video when he mentioned getting another trigger and hammer. I would not put it past someone having tampered with the gun to be ‘fanned’ 2 people that should be held criminally responsible are Baldwin and the person who gave him the gun proclaiming it safe. Others are also likely to be criminally responsible. I agree that most like Baldwin placed his finger on the trigger as the hammer was pulled thus preventing the catches from functioning. But I could see the gun being tampered with due to all the safety that was not followed.

There is one way to make the hammer fall when released on a single action army. If Baldwin was already pressing the trigger BEFORE moving the hammer, the hammer does not engage any notches and will drop down and strike the primer when released. Depending on how far back he puller the hammer, it may or may not hit the primer with enough force to ignite it. It looks like in his case he had sufficient force.

@soakupthesunman

2 жыл бұрын

I think Baldwin was pissed at how the movie might go over budget. I guess his millions of dollars net worth just isn't enough.

How real would it look in a gun close up for Alex not to have his finger in the trigger cage? Abuse one , Alex didn't check the gun himself, two he pointed it at her, forget he's "she told me to" , three, if the scene called for the bad guys shoot towards him, wouldn't a person want to see the gun was right. But forget his long story of shooting the gun, the short story is how the live round got in the gun... supposedly Alex, assistant director, and the armorer had access to the weapon. Alex said usually the armorer was one set when guns came into play but this time she was not so the assistant director provided the gun and called it "cold gun" which seems by standard meaning empty gun, hot gun meaning dummy, blank or live. For a gun close up it seems a dummy or live round are the possible rounds, and not crimped end blank.

Plain and simple: Never point a gun against someone. Always consider guns as fully loaded.

@sharonjensen3016

2 жыл бұрын

My dad always said that. I've never forgotten.