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@bluecollarblood1830

9 ай бұрын

Boom!👍🇺🇸

@karlepaul6632

8 ай бұрын

What did you mean by "With the exception of tail defense...."?

@jmadair41

8 ай бұрын

Just a bit of trivia each. 50 cal machine was loaded with 27 feet of belted ammo so when you hear someone say I gave him all 9 yards they are referring to the gunners in the planes. Meaning the gunner pushed the trigger and didn't stop till he was empty. That's where that saying came from

@VSastrocompasss

8 ай бұрын

French gun men ■.■ salute. I enjoy halo warthog, and snoopy ace, and finally hiemerdinger. 1st ability. Now I wanna see drop auto guns. If hiemerdinger and ziggy and korkie where all in one vehicle. Image the true obliteration.

@kisa_lifeisgood

8 ай бұрын

😊

Consolidated B-24 never gets the respect it deserves

@gooseiscool93

2 ай бұрын

Because crews liked b17 more literally because of it being sturdy there once was a slash in the fucilage of one and got the crew back home

First time I've ever seen the guns deployed on a B-36....Thanks for the video!

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! I also thought that was some pretty interesting footage. Our partners from the now defunct Aerocinema had full access to the Convair video vault. I do not recall seeing it before. Stay tuned for part 2 🙂

@derekcoaker6579

9 ай бұрын

Same, never knew it was equipped with those, and here I thought myself to be a pretty big aircraft Nerd.

Gotta love those 40's instructual films. I feel like I could fly a B-17 after watching that now.

My now gone little Uncle would have loved this video! He was a belly ball gunner in a B24J!

@007ElSenor

9 ай бұрын

My uncle Albert was a belly turret gunner too, B-17 and B-24, 50 missions. It must have been difficult to maneuver the turret and get a bead on the enemy aircraft.

@xprettylightsx3781

9 ай бұрын

God Bless both of your family members. Thank you for their service to this beautiful country.

@georgeormerod2531

9 ай бұрын

Apart from submarines, the ball turret gunner is the most terrifying job to me. Very brave men.

@clark3027

9 ай бұрын

Funny my uncle Alan was some one who fitted the defensive armermerments on the b24 he served in all theaters he still alive and turning 101 this October! He may even have been the one to put the machine guns in your uncles b24!

@ronaldheider5664

9 ай бұрын

Wow you must have been proud of him. He was a very brave man to have had that job. I can't imagine what went thru those men's minds when going on their missions.

Incredible attack footage at 1:35 of Me-163 rocket fighters on a combat box formation of B-17s! Grandpa piloted the Flying Fortress, and was very confident against fighter attacks in the G variant, if his wingmen kept the formation tight. The speed of new jet and rocket fighters gave the enemy a huge advantage, and grandpa faced the Me-262 in the German skies. He said they passed him like he was standing still, when he had all four of his throttles "to the firewall." He knew they only had fuel for one pass, maybe two, and that the Reich's production facilities and fuel supplies were demolished from aerial bombardment. Soon he would be coming home to grandma. Many didn't...

My grandfather was in a B-17 ball turret over Germany. I wouldn't even want to be stuck in that little turret under ANY circumstances, let alone during combat. Just being hung from the belly of a plane all by yourself is crazy without adding flak, AA, and the Luftwaffe. I've been studying WW2 for decades and I've been aboard B17s myself - but I _still_ can't fully imagine how intense it must have been up there above Germany. It wasn't too fun on the other end either though. My grandmother was in Berlin and she had it even worse. I don't know how she survived the entire war there.

@dukecraig2402

9 ай бұрын

Ball turret gunners had the highest survivability rate of anyone on a B17 or a B24, contrary to all the myths over the years it was actually the safest place to be, and despite what people believe the gunner wasn't even in the turret during most of the mission, for obvious safety reasons they weren't in it during take off and landing and didn't get in it until they approached enemy territory and got back out after leaving, they weren't stuck in the turret for a full 7 or 8 hours, they actually spent more time out of it than in it.

@RivetGardener

9 ай бұрын

Goodness...God blesses for your entire family!

@user-ok8qu5mw9r

9 ай бұрын

merci pour votre grand-père pour sont travail qui a permis de vivre libre sans nazi ,qui soit béni

@bradmarkell12167

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. At least your grandfather survived . Lucky for him, he didn't have to fight during the brunt of it btwn '42-'43, as my grandfather did. Even though he survived over 25 missions, "they" refused to send him home to.his wife and newborn... they were made EXPENDABLE. Just bodies the govt brainwashed to believe their only priority was fighting 'til Hitler, the enemy, surrendered.. tragic, travesty, utterly ridiculous how it screwed up future families of America and allowed the enemy, spiritually and physically, to permeate within our nation since, which is why WE THE PEOPLE are having trouble GOVERNING, as WE shud be.

@bradmarkell12167

8 ай бұрын

​@dukecraig2402 true, yet it wasn't as important as sending the boys home to their wife n kids when they had already served out their fair share. But Nooo. The powers that be had to up the Annie and sacrifice/donate more lives

Like another person in the comments, I recognized the flight instructor in Part 2, but couldn't place him. I'd just seen him last week in a western with Jimmy Stewart, so I searched through my movies and found him. He's Arthur Kennedy. Been in a lot of movies. So I looked up his bio and yep, he was in the USAAF during WWII making aviation training films. Interesting tidbit of info there. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed both parts.

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

👍🙏 Good catch, thank for doing the research, and for sharing it with everyone

@dukecraig2402

9 ай бұрын

Yep, Arthur Kennedy, Bend of The River is the western he was in with Jimmy Stewart, he also played Jackson Bentley in the movie Lawrence of Arabia, Bentley was a character based on the famous newsreel narrator Lowell Thomas, before narrating news reels he was the man who made T.E. Lawrence world famous and coined the name Lawrence of Arabia in his newspaper articles he'd written about Lawrence when he spent time with him in the Arabian desert.

@coldburn9956

9 ай бұрын

That wasn’t part 2, that training video was just thrown in to make people clicking on the video think it’s an hour long documentary, basically just thrown in as filler and didn’t even have any relation to turret’s. The second part is a separate video. I hate when you get partway through a documentary and it either just does a jump cut to some other documentary or the video just replays from the beginning again just to make the video length look longer.

@GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information. Makes the show much better. 😎👍

@rcsutter

8 ай бұрын

@@dukecraig2402 they were also in The Man From Laramie together, that was the one that jogged my memory. I like all those old movies, but especially westerns.

Im amazed at how technical and complex those planes were to fly. I am pretty mechanically inclined and listening to the captain guide the new pilot through the systems and settings boggled my mind. I just dont see how anyone became proficient at flying them. Wow, so much to remember and monitor.

@aesoundforge

9 ай бұрын

and those guys were so young...

@iblockpuncheswithmyface1490

9 ай бұрын

And to do all that in the middle of fierce combat.

@rabbitramen

9 ай бұрын

In that era the aircraft were sophisticated for their time with mostly electromechanical systems and especially in the bombers there were so many systems to test, check and monitor in an exact sequence even before starting an engine. Those were the days of real flying of men, machinery and muscle. Unlike today where aircraft are computer dominant and the aircraft almost fly themselves.

@hotlanta35

9 ай бұрын

Computers have really dumbed down people these days it’s nothing to fly like it used to be

@Bobby-fj8mk

9 ай бұрын

It looks too complicated and it would be easy to make a mistake especially if the instruments were faulty.

My Dad flew 52 missions on '17s in WW2. The first 25 with the 100thBomb Group, 8th AF out of Thorpe Abbots, England. He kept a diary of his time overseas and it is a sobering read of death at 20,000 feet

@Dronescapes

8 ай бұрын

Steve, Bless him.

My dad was a Waist Gunner on the B24 for 8th Air Force 2nd Division 392 Bomber Group 577th Squadron. Im so proud my father was part of the best generation of men. If you met him, you would think the same way.

A large reason for the loss of so many RAF night bombers was because the Luftwaffe night pilots quickly learned that while most RAF bombers had 2 to 4 gun turrets at nose, dorsal and tail positions there was nothing underneath the aircraft. So the night fighter pilots would attack from underneath and the side aiming at the wing roots. The last B-36 to fly landed at Wright-Patterson AFB, taxied into the new USAF museum, was safed for long term inside storage and the building finished around it.

@GeorgeRuffner-iy7bm

9 ай бұрын

Interesting! 😎👍

@achimelale9974

8 ай бұрын

"Schräge Musik"

@keithplymale2374

8 ай бұрын

@@achimelale9974 I know that just do have access to my historical library right now because in the midst of setting everything back up afterwards. The name would not come to mind when I made that comment.

My grandfather was a waist gunner on the B17 over Germany. I don’t know what happened to him but he was not the same man after the war. We must remember the immeasurable debt we owe to these heroes.

@bradmarkell12167

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. There are good books that describe what it was like. Was he despondent towards you growing up?

@thedamneddice575

8 ай бұрын

The sacrifices those hero's made will be forgotten soon due to the woke agenda unfortunately

@bradmarkell12167

8 ай бұрын

@@thedamneddice575 not if we can help it

@Kev-3006

8 ай бұрын

@@bradmarkell12167 No, but he came back a troubled man. Short tempered, problems with alcohol and very hard on my dad.

@bradmarkell12167

8 ай бұрын

@user-jc6wn3hw2u I bet. They had it the worst. It was more psychological. Not seeing a body detached syndrome caused ptsd, not yet named that then. Not everyone acted that way, although some were cruel and sadistic towards their kids and cheated on their wives, for their lives were forever changed. War took lives of those who should've been married to the women who.ended up with their buddies 🙄

My Grandfather was tail gunner in a Wellington bomber right at the start of the war. After an initial couple of raids over Germany in daylight, the losses were so great, the RAF switched to night bombing. He went for night vision tests and was found to be night blind, so was pulled out of the planes and sent to guard PoWs that were starting to come in from the Battle of the Atlantic. Otherwise,.he qould.not have survived the war.

@matthewmusson3473

8 ай бұрын

In WWII the 50 caliber ammunition belts were 27 feet long. When a German fighter came in, the US gunner would sometimes fire the entire belt. It was called giving them "The Whole Nine Yards!"

@erikcrouch7881

8 ай бұрын

@@matthewmusson3473 The phrase actually predates WWII by almost 90 years, though. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards

"Through These Eyes" The war diary of a B-17 radio/gunner. I thoroughly enjoyed the ensuing series !!

Given the amount of poorly researched, shoddily presented, aircraft content on KZread (you know who you are Dark Skies), it's really refreshing to watch this stuff. Excellent video! Keep up the good work. 👍

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏 to spend a nice word for all KZreadrs, including ourselves, keep in mind that we are not HBO, or the BBC, and unless you are Mr. Beast, there are severe budget limitations for creators. Anyway, thank you so much for the kind words.

Why cant modern instructional videos be this good

The U.S. B-17 with .50 caliber weapons was getting its clocked clean by German fighters using 20 mm Ammo. That to this day is one of the heaviest criticisms of the U.S. Army Aircorps. Even my father who flew B-17's complained about it. To this day it reminds me of the oxymoronic term Military Intelligence. But my hat tips to all the men that served on those bombers. They did the best they could with what they had. Godspeed to all.

@OrangPasien

8 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing about the Brits using 303. Turns out a target was under the pip for such a short time smaller caliber and a lot more of them made sense (1 - 20mm or 20 - 303 which is better?). Likewise having multiple ammo calibers (eg 303cal & 20mm) would have been a supply/logistics issue. And switching in mid-war would also have caused problems (wrong/insufficient ammo delivered for airplanes etc) not to mention difficulties retro-fitting 20mm cannons into 303cal gun wells. Also, the Germans didn’t demonstrate a noticeably superior effectiveness over the allies. The point is, it wasn’t a simple issue of 303/50 vs 20. God bless the bomber boys.

Always amazed me how quickly we turned those flimsy first aircraft into deadly war machines.

My frandfather and great uncles (his brothers) all came to the USA during WW2 specifically to join the US military to help save their own country as well as eventually raise my family that now has lived in the USA since. All 3 were air gunners. Two were shot down near Normandy, survived and made it to saftey afterwards, one saved another crewman, and the other was the only survivor on his plane. My grandfathers plane never even got hit the whole time he served on it. The uncles who were shot down were eventually treated and returned to the fight. They all made it through the war and the one who saved a crew member from his downed plane got some sort of medal. They all got some kind of recognition but I'm not sure to what degree. They have all since passed away though. I have a pair of opera binoculars that one of them got while they were in or near france at some point suring the war.

While going through my B52 Gunner training I got to get up close and personal with an old ball turret from a B17 they had at the school, but I was way too large to actually get in it.

My late grandfather was stationed in Italy with a heavy bomber group. He was a B-17 tail gunner. I wish he talked more about it but grandma said he was a lot different when he came back from the war. He wasn't the most approachable man. Lol.

I love the B36 popup turrets, 20mm too. 50 cal was borderline inadequate for WWII bombers, let alone a cold war bomber.

My father was a turret gunner in a TBM Avenger in the Pacific.

My Uncle flew in the B17 as A tail gunner with a pair of 50 caliber machine guns , my Father was in the Islands fighting the Japanese. As a child born in 1950 . He was a Medic and went to Nagasaki after the Bomb was dropped and stayed in Japan till 1948 . History is a topic that- to the winners goes the history of the War .

How fitting that the footage of the B-36 had an engine not turning. Goodness that thing was a nightmare of reliability failures.

Being someone who's the same age as most of the musical artist of the 80's, this is my favorite genre, and one of the best eras for great music, something not too many kids today appreciate. Many of them are still playing and can pack the crowd, whereas most of the bands today are a flash in the pan, here today, gone tomorrow.

My father-in-law was the right-waist gunner in B-17G Belligerent Beauty, 8th Air Force, 335th Squadron, 95th Bomb Group (Heavy) out of Horham, UK. Replacement crew.....he did the nose art. He's the last of the lads at 100 this past February. I believe the "Instructor" in the training film is Kevin McCarthy (original Invasion of the Body Snatchers). Met him in Modesto, CA at a horror movie convention in, I think, 2000 or 2001.

The museum of the Air Force in Dayton has a great display on the first gun use from a plane. Including one of the generals saying accuracy was Much to low, to ever have success in war

Dad was an airgunner in 223sq RAF. Flying Blenheims then Baltimores in the Western Desert.

I found that the check list was long , beyond belief really & then go to war on top of that . Unbelievable they all deserve to be remembered for fighting for our freedom . Honour & Respect . Lest we forget .

Just to think the wright brothers made the first flight only 40 years before?? Mind blowing 🤯

@RobotsEverywhereVideos

2 ай бұрын

a person could read about the wright flyer in the newspaper as a kid and watch the moon landing on color tv in their retirement community....

I love these 1940's training films.

My boss at Lycoming in Stratford was a belly gunner in the 8th. Fred was a pretty small guy and I guess that is why he ended up in that little bubble.

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

Bless him

I'm curious about the B-36 having a "hushed" sound and where you might have heard that. With 6 28 cylinder engines (168 cylinders total) one could hardly call it hushed. I distinctly remember reading a recollection of a crewman's son watching B-36's coming over base housing on short final. Even with the low power demands at that point in the flight, the noise was enough to shake the houses below.

@MrJest2

8 ай бұрын

Yes, but at 30k feet the sound was barely perceptible compared to that era's jet aircraft. Of course, if you followed the sound based on what your ears perceived, you would be several seconds *behind* the jets, too... it's a delicate balance. Trying to locate and lock on to aircraft at that speed and altitude was a vastly greater challenge than today...

B-29's losses were almost 2-1 mechanical/fires/landing and takeoff accidents vs enemy fire. The turrets were quite good.

I checked out the Ronald Reagan Library WW2 exhibit last year. They had a B-17 turret on display. Couldn't believe how small it was. You had to be a pretty small dude to get in that thing & sit in the fetal position. An old timer volunteer laughed at me when I asked him if ear protection was provided🤣Much respect to the WW2 generation.

@kennethcurtis1856

5 ай бұрын

Those heroes were not 'dudes'. Show respect.

@episodebeats2817

5 ай бұрын

@kennethcurtis1856 You misinterpreted the comment. Didn’t literally call the service men dudes. I’m referring to the size a person(dude) has to be to fit inside the turret. I also stated, “Much Respect” at the end of the comment. Where I’m from dude is used like “guy”, “bloke” or “man”

Well done video and great topic. I've been intrigued with turrets on bombers since I was a kid, probably from watching the Twelve O'Clock High TV series in the 1960's. As knowledgeable as I consider myself on the topic, I was unaware that the B-36 had retractable and hidden turrets. I just "assumed" they had only a tail gun like the early B-52's. Fascinating.

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

👍

@dukecraig2402

9 ай бұрын

They were removed from the B36 after a while, only the early variant's, maybe even just the first one, had the retractable turrets.

My grandfather was a naval air gunner in WW1. Perry M. Cummings, he died in 1975 when I was 5. I have always wondered which plane he flew in.

@Dronescapes

8 ай бұрын

Bless him

Well spoken.Very educational.Thank You

Fantastic! Looks like real fun if not at war. Thanks! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 😎👍

the gunner turret was so interesting I wanted more of that don't have time to watch it all but some of that instructor stuff was pretty amazing. Thank you.

The B17 was a good looking plane and certainly a fortress, but there was a price to pay for all those heavy guns, ammo and extra crew members - bomb capacity. The B17 carried 2 Tons of bombs compared to the 10 Tons in the more lightly armed Lancaster.

Those bomber guys had some guts . Heroes the lot of them

A Stuka would have been unpleasant. The gunner can’t see the ground during the attack and is thrown forwards in his seat under the high-g pullout.

On October 5th, 1914, the first aerial victory was won by Franz and Quenault, on their Voisin 3 push-propeller scouting biplan. It had a front observer basin in which Gabriel Voisin had just mounted an Hotchkiss machine gun.

The Lewis gun wasnt available until 1911 on wards, production started 1913.

"Almost 'hushed' sound"?????? Those things used to fly over my house in San Antonio, TX in the mid-1950's and they would shake the fillings out of your teeth! Loudest plane I ever heard.

This was a great training film! Only wish there were some more B-17s hanging around at our local municipal airports that we could rent for a few hours.😉

@mattmatt6572

9 ай бұрын

If I was was on a crew for the b17 I just wouldn't want to sit on the other side of the target the brits had painted on it.

My hat goes off to the Test Pilots who wrote the the standard operating procedure. Aussie Jeff Moore

Thank you! Awesome turrent content!

I always thought the B-52 was the king of bombers maybe not the biggest but definitely the Best.

Less than 10% of B17 and Liberator losses in the European theatre were due to enemy fighters. 25% were due to aircraft malfunctions like engine failures or fires and the rest were due to flak. The weight of the ball turrets and ammunition badly limited the effective bomb load to less than half of that carried by Lancasters. Even a Mosquito could carry almost as much.

@anthonyeaton5153

9 ай бұрын

It wasn’t just the overall weight of the B17 that impacted its bomb load it was it’s capacity to do so ie, it had a very small bomb bay. There was no more room to carry extra bombs.

That video made with actors I recocnized from ww2 movies was perfect instruction tool and a pleasure to see after all these years THANKS

WW1 German pilots and observer/gunners had electrically heated flight suits!

How many lived long enough to memorize all it took to just fly this warbird?? I had no idea what it took to fly. I love the 40's military training films...jokes included!! 😂

I learned the turrets were a British invention today, thank you.

B-36 was a true peace maker. It was never needed in warfare. Walk softly and carry a B-36.

That was great It makes me want to go flying😊

100 mph takeoff with that big of a plane? That’s nuts

That was Really good. A lot of work flying one of those. I was fortunate enough to actually get inside but not sit in the Cockpit. Amazing how many gauges and analog at that on that Beast of a plane. I'm Sixty and it still scares the hell out of me thinking about being in one of those over Germany in WWII. RIP To all of those who did not return. You will Not be Forgotten. Thank you for this Excellent video. I forgot to mention my mom used too be part of the building of the B17's. I think she and other ladies were called... Rosie the Riveter.

Very informative. Thanks for this fascinating video

@Dronescapes

8 ай бұрын

Our pleasure!

(Ref pt. 6:50) Slight error here. During WWI the observer’s primary purpose was to watch for the enemy and when possible, fire on him. Generally, in a two seat airplane of the era only the observer had a gun, thus he was their defense. So if the observer was required to direct artillery how can he also see to their defense? He can’t, therefore the pilot directed artillery while flying the plane. How does the pilot fly as well as send/receive code? First, a number vs letter grid was used to designate targets (trench war, not a lot of movement). Then a simple code was used to indicate short/long and left/right of the target to dial-in the fire. This was carried out by the pilot while the observer kept their arses safe.

My great uncle tony was a tail gunner 42 and some of 43 he was injured several tims from shrapnel in a b17 d or e model

Am all for the B17 , but why is the B24 left out it carried turrets , but a better Bomb load and built in greater numbers , and it went through just as much an its just as important.

Excellent video. Lost opportunity with the turreted fighter. 264 Sqn love their Defiants.

Excellent instructions, knowledge based ❤

I love it 6 truing an 4 burning great stuff

I watched a video on how to start a b seventeen bomber because I couldn't start my one bomber on my simulator. Turns out step for step it was really accurate and I got my plane started. Just today randomly I came across this video. Now I know how to keep my plane in a low fuel set. I also know the fuel and r p m settings for the now as well, due different phases of the flight

Good stuff, pedant point Blenheim is pronounced Blen.emm

Many years ago i was told of a interesting story. A fellow that worked at my power plant a very old unit.He was in WW2 and he was trained as a gunner and apparently he and his buds shot up some sheep as they came back from a training flight. Well the army air corp wound up paying for the sheep . So thats what they got to eat . He stated the other flight crew's would have done some serious damage to them if they could find out who did it . Lucky they shipped out pretty quick lol. I have no idea if this is correct but it was interesting story

propellers with variable pitch? all metal construction?! fully enclosed cockpits!?! Madness! Those Whippersnapping pilots will be wanting heaters installed next! Mark my words!

*Let the Sunshine In...* Form what I have learned the Fokker D.VII was the best performing airplane coming out of WWII with its lightweight welded pipe frame and powerful mercedes engine, and yielding twin forward facing machine-guns.

Thank you, bravo

A friend of mine dad was a gunner in a bomber during The Korea War

Awsome curlymo

Compared to large modern jet aircraft, the B-17 was a handful for the pilot.

Love that your thumbnail is an edit of a photo from a display at my local air museum, The Yorkshire Air museum, Elvington

@Dronescapes

9 ай бұрын

Correct, It is in fact credited in the description. It is not exactly the same, as we colorized several parts.

@robmurphy165

9 ай бұрын

Awesome, it's a brilliant aviation museum.

Video thumbnail would make a badass poster!

We're with yu' David..

The second half of the video was the most entertaining.

29:15 “It’s time to see how far you can go with her and still stay friends” hahahaha damn it must of been so nice to live back in those days…

It’s always baffled me how they could time the propellors with the firing of a machine gun. If it even slightly jumped time,the pilot would shoot his prop all to pcs.

@Chris-bz2vk

4 ай бұрын

It was a mechanical interrupter that only let the gun fire between the blades. Was very reliable system. There was an earlier 'system' that involved plates on the blades to deflect the bullets, and no interrupter.

Very interesting indeed.

Fantastic video thank you. 👍🏻

@Dronescapes

8 ай бұрын

Thank you too!

Youre at 999k views. I'm hoping me watching this throws you over the line to a million, and I gain some extra knowledge.

Amazing film, Bee

The added footstep sound effects! 😂🤣

The Ju86 was beatiful.

This is something that was in my mind even as a child

Good stuff.💛

@Dronescapes

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

NOW l know why l never became a pilot, plus it's easy to see the logic in the joke about "lf you can count to 10 without using your fingers they made you a bomber pilot. But if you couldn't count to 10 without using your fingers they made you a fighter pilot". l never knew there was that much involved in flying a B-17. TV & movies make it look SOOO easy, lol.

I am convinced now that is a species we spend more time effort and money on making instruments of death for killing each other than any other endeavor ! am I close?

@giggiddy

9 ай бұрын

It appears you're correct. But without these machines we likely wouldn't be enjoying the freedom we now have. But any way you cut it, the purpose for all these machines can be depressing. Especially the older I get. I have the utmost respect for the men and women tasked with fighting with these aircraft.

@jeebusk

9 ай бұрын

We've always hunted other animals, the question really is what makes you distinguish one from another.

@jeffrenman4146

9 ай бұрын

@@jeebusk interesting comment. Remember that Einstein was against the war. Also it wouldn't be far-fetched to say that most educated people were against killing one another. So what's left? We are distinguished from animals because of our intellect correct? Now considering the world as we both see it how much intellect do you see this specially on KZread? Now you have the answer you're looking for. Looks like were screwed and we really are

@jeffrenman4146

9 ай бұрын

@@giggiddy I also respect them for their brave sacrifice and to be honest their suffering. It should never have happened. But yeah when you get older you just see the stupidity in all of it more clearly.you can also see more clearly history really does repeat. Another war is coming only look at the technology that will be unleashed. I should really get off KZread… War here is just sensationalized entertainment. Something's wrong with that picture

@jeebusk

9 ай бұрын

@@jeffrenman4146 arguably our problem is that we're too successful, we beat all the bears and saber-tooth tigers. Now we can't even agree what the problem(s) are, let alone how to solve them...

7:10. Wrong. It’s nickname was the Bristol Fighter. Because it was actually a bomber, but it had the performance of a fighter.

Wow good teacher .. Top

old school to the max

The checklist before take off is a nightmare. Jeez...

If you look at up to date pictures of the Russian Bear bomber it looks like it has some kind of cannon or heavy machine gun in it's tail.I don't know if any of these aircraft have been attacked by fighters in the current Ukraine crisis .

Flying one of these was clear as mud, that's a lot to remember.

Amazing how complicated a pilots job is.