Wow! What a difference. Twelve joules extra, that is some extra power.

@cunnyfred9562

3 жыл бұрын

From your ascent, you sound like a British man that is having a lot of fun in France.

@replikvltyoutube3727

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your experiment

@J0HN_3_16

Жыл бұрын

Will dieseling affect short barrel airguns like the Umarex HDR50 or TR50?

@wileyanglin3728

Жыл бұрын

50 years ago my mum bought me a German.177… I used Wd 40 and it would group 2 inches at80 meters. The gun still works perfectly and know I know it’s called dieseling.. a spring still shoots 3000 rounds later… dieseling doesn’t 😞

@l.m6836

Жыл бұрын

Es gibt kein Dieseln. Es nennt sich selbst zünder.

I'm 67yrs I got a .22 Diana air rifle for my 16th birthday and my dad taught me how to diesel then. Since then I have always deiseld my air rifles, I've always used and found diesel fuel for model engines to be the best and easiest to use, you just squirt a bit in the tin and give it a good shake and your ready to go. In all this time I've never had any damage caused to any of my air rifles.

@georgegg4846

2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever had to replace the seals?

@B08Y

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgegg4846 only the little leather seal on the barrel face which dries up or wears out in time anyway. I've never had to replace the main seal, last time I put a new spring in, years ago, the seal looked ok then. But other than that I've had no problems with any seals on my air rifles, my BSA, which has a bit more power than my Diana, has a tap loading system and under leaver cocking. So only has one seal, which hasn't been damaged through dieseling. I think this damage through dieseling is just a myth probably created by people " Karen's " you know the type, who think it's wrong, your cheating the system by taking your air rifle beyond the legal limit. Or just by trolls who just disagree with everything or everyone, just for the sake of it.

@ratdad48

Жыл бұрын

@@B08Y your last 2 paragraphs are spot on

@mr.kumar1

Жыл бұрын

Only wimps cry about damaging the gun. They underestimate the power of firearms. They just follow everything literally, no common sense, in war everything goes you idiots

@c4r5on88

Жыл бұрын

Hi Bob just a quick one. So you put the diesel in the tin with the pellets and shake it up so they are all covered?

Using vaseline increases penetration so I've heard

@Maddogairguns

3 жыл бұрын

I've heard that rumour too.

@ewbie100

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maddogairguns Same here. Maybe you could knock up another excellent vid and show us if this rumour has any merit. I've had mixed results.

@bongkaos5519

2 жыл бұрын

In the night there came a scream.... Who put sand in the Vasoline?

@tomcatt998

2 жыл бұрын

As long as U put it in the back 🤪

@smellaphone1

2 жыл бұрын

You made me lol 😆

I guess I have been unknowingly dieseling my Crosman 760 pumpmaster since the early 80’s. I have always used 3 in 1 oil. The gun works perfect 40+ years later. Thanks for the video!

@cowboy6452

10 ай бұрын

That's funny. I love how everyone thinks it's so terrible for the gun. It's really not unless you have a cheap gun then I wouldn't even put oil in it. Of course I'm referring to like a daisy lever action from the 70s or some of these other ones that are not Gamo brand or Umarex. Just saying. Yes Gamo you can send me some stuff to test! I'm quite sold on that product! I recommend it to everybody

@cowboy6452

10 ай бұрын

Side note here, if you really want to have some fun with dieseling, get the Raptor pellets by Gamo and Diesel those with Vicks VapoRub. It shoots through a 2 L bottle of ice four times with the same pellet it's super sonic speed and it sounds like a 30-06 going off! Quite this real actually. Plus I killed a coyote at 103 yards with a 177 caliber Gamo Whisper! And it's confirmed I have a witness! A night shot one-handed with a flashlight and the other hand in the eyeball of the coyote! Look out Annie Oakley LOL

@cowboy6452

10 ай бұрын

"this real" - edit "Quite A THRILL actually!"

@cowboy6452

10 ай бұрын

"this real" - edit "Quite A THRILL actually!"

WD40 has a new GEL formula.. just fill the back of pellet. ALSO FYI always store your air rifles in a barrel down position, so the solvents do not flow back into internals .seals , etc...

You could clearly hear the pellets going supersonic and the echo around the field. I'm not familiar with the metric measuring system of joules and the lower measurement on you chronograph Ben but if it's going supersonic in old money that's 1100 feet per second which is the same as a 9mm Parabellum ( Luger) firearm round. Pretty impressive mate

@flinchfu

2 жыл бұрын

Around 335 mps is about 1100 fps... apparently. I've known this for like... two minutes.

@goodvibesbeats2221

8 ай бұрын

@@flinchfu roughly 3 feet plus some change to a meter. 3ft to a yard and a yard is what like 0.9m or just about

Vaseline definitely increases speed and penetration power. I've been able 2 send my .177 Pellets through steel. Supersonic crack roughly 1200 fps

"I love that Vaseline smell in the morning". Did it with my vintage 177 Hy-Score pistol. The JSB Heavy's went through the shed door.

@1tomanyguns

3 жыл бұрын

my wife was glad we had vaseline in the morning when things were rushed

I really liked the dieseling test you´ve just performed, I´ve been interested on this theme for a while and you video provided the information I am looking for. Thanks and best regards.

I appreciate your utter honesty. You are a man of your word and you made a nice video regarding this method. And I tested it myself and I found the same results that you did thanks for this video I got a lot out of it

Dieselling air rifles *on KZread* is a great way of getting everybody's power cut to 4 ft/lbs.

By using Vaseline you can also put a relative consistent amount of propellant into the skirt of the pellet, what helps with accuracy.

3 in 1 household oil does really well... 1 droplet in the reciever had my swarm +400 fps and the dent in my lead target was much wider and a lil deeper . Watch for ricochet

The best video on this topic so far.

This is the first time I’ve watched any vids about dieseling the gun. I think doctoring the pellets with Vaseline is a much better/safer way of doing it. I watched a vid where the guy poured some sort of oil into the part of the gun the air comes from. That looked a bit dodgy to me but giving the pellets the Vaseline treatment seems perfect. Such a lot more power!! I’m definitely going to give this a try.

A couple of points… yes, I know this works, and its fun, because I have done it myself many years ago. Firstly, yes the power increases significantly, but with very little consistency, so the accuracy is going to be bad (so its useless for hunting)… This lack of accuracy is probably caused by two main factors… transiting the sound barrier and the extra pressure deforming the pellet skirt unevenly so you get ‘fliers’. Heavier pellets would probably help in this regard. Secondly, and probably more significantly, whilst not wanting to be a killjoy, in the UK if you have an air rifle capable of producing more than 12 ft/lbs muzzle energy it is classed as a firearm, and you DEFINITELY wouldn’t want to get caught by the police with it (the supersonic ‘cracks’ might not be appreciated by neighbours and are a dead giveaway). Possession of an unlicensed firearm (which is what a dieseling air rifle becomes) in the UK carries an almost certain prison sentence, so its just not worth the risk unless you have it on a Firearm Certificate… in which case there are FAR better options available to you.

@Maddogairguns

Жыл бұрын

As you said, it's fun. And an experiment on my part to see if it actually worked. Here in France we can have a bit more power, up to 20 joules. But this exceeds even that. However I do have my cat C license which is like an FAC. But yes the pellets were tumbling all over the place, my Bergara BMR 22lr is much better when it comes to needing a bit more.

@johnredcorn2476

Жыл бұрын

​@@Maddogairguns a brit in France? Nelson would roll in his grave 😂

@Dr._Spamy

8 ай бұрын

It's not forbidden to lube your air rifle, is it ?

@peterg2yt

8 ай бұрын

@@Dr._Spamyof course not. But we’re not talking about just ‘lubricating’ it here… we’re talking about using oil as a fuel to significantly increase the power of the rifle, and in the UK this is not without very draconian consequences, and one of the consequences is that if the power of an air weapon exceeds 12 ft/lb of muzzle energy (6ft/lb for an air pistol), then it is automatically categorised as a ‘firearm’, and you need to be issued a Firearm Certificate by the local police force to own it. It also needs to be kept in a steel safe when not in use (and they won’t issue one for a dieselling air gun). The unpleasant fact is that this ‘fun’ carries a mandatory prison sentence. You have been warned ( if you live in the UK)!

@johna5484

6 ай бұрын

Wow , time to move to a free country !

As a 13yr old in the early 70's discovered dieseling my Diana SP50 with 3in1 oil after cleaning. Eventually use to use chest vapour rub. I have Never replaced to seals on that or any of my air rifles that I have had for decades.

Good points about the Vaseline not melting. Might be a good idea to pre load a bunch and keep em in a bag with a cool pak

@linkbond08

2 жыл бұрын

Alternatively you can get a small 1oz bottle of Lucas extreme duty gun oil, it has a needle applicator and the bottle is leak proof.

@ratdad48

Жыл бұрын

I use a rather big syringe applicator. Fill half way with Vicks vapor rub or equivalent. Needle out of course.The kind with a cap. This keeps the fumes in and from drying out. Easy to inject just a tiny bit in the cup. Works great.

It might be worth noting that the speed of sound is about 343 m per second and you are dieseling these pellets up a little past that. Two big negative effects are the extra noise from the Sonic crack and the significant accuracy loss by the pellets leaving your barrel just a little over the speed of sound and passing through that barrier in the first 20 or 30 m. Really a good idea to use heavier pellets if you're going to diesel so that you can keep your muzzle velocity down below 300 m/s or so.

@dutchsailor6620

Жыл бұрын

They are actually going twice through the transonic speed range, once going supersonic and once slowing down to subsonic. You will have the accuracy like shooting birdshot. Spot on with your pellet weight remark.

@DannyBoy11oc

Жыл бұрын

Stop running ur re tarded mouth

I don't need to diesel, I use air rifles for tasks where firearms are too destructive/potentially dangerous, I have an old S400 (11.4 ft/lbs) for rabbit/wood pigeon, and an S510 (11.4 ft/lbs) for 25 yard target, plus an MPR Precision (5.1 ft/lbs) for 10 metre/6 yard target, anything requiring more gun gets more gun whilst remaining legal. Plus all my .22lr is 1073 fps so no crack, but that might change as I'm getting a semi-auto and they may not cycle the bolt.

It sounds wonderful post dieseling.

My hw45 pistol dieseled for the first 2000 pellets .I don’t have a chrono but I’m sure it was well over the legal limits for the uk😬.plus points: loads of power negative points: couldn’t hit shit😂 glad it’s settled down now and shoots great 👍 accuracy over power every time for me 👌

"today we're gonna try something controversial with vaseline" Oh geez where did youtube take me now.....I'm going to jail for weird porn?

Thanks very much for that I will try it with my Baracuda pellets in my Gammo

I could've help but notice how skillful you were with the ol vaz. Hahahahaha good vid

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve have some experience with it.

@BRIANFORWARD1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Maddogairguns hahahahahahaha top man

Thanks for that info. I'll use it.

what they are talking about with the seals is when people that use oils, especially a lot of oil, it can work it's way down into where the seals are and destroys them, Vaseline is a lot safer but a real pain in the butt to load each pellet, i use a drop of gun oil which i put in the butt of the pellet after i have it loaded into the barrel then i make sure to keep the barrel pointed nose down right up until i raise the barrel then shoot quickly so nothing can run back down the barrel, it also doesn't hurt to run a piece of wading or cloth through the barrel after you are done shooting.....

"everyone diesels their air rifles these days" "oh yeah? like who?" "farmers" "who else?" "Farmers mums"

Great review fella very interesting, happy shooting 👍🇬🇧

Excelent. Is a nice video congratulations for your explanation . Good job👌👌👌

excuse me sir have you got a license for that vasoline 🤣

@jackberetta1

Ай бұрын

Barrack is using it a lot with big Mike

hi😀, very impressive the gain of powe💪💥 with the vaseline "dieseline", you buy it or please🤔

You think is possible for you to do on a video on airgun clean especially for the t4e air guns?

Thanks very informative.

Amazing results there. I also have the hunter 440...let me try this as well.. Thanks

I like to use vicks vapor rub. Seems to sound louder in my Gamo. Also keeps my sinus' open.

@charge9508

Жыл бұрын

That don't sound right dawg I wouldn't advise that but I am no professional

this is awesome. does it damage the breech seals or antyhing inside, I"m guessing you have to clean the barrel more often after diesling.

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

So far, no damaged seals, some people have been doing it for years, without any problems. Barrel doesn't really get that dirty.

I tried this with a hw97 and Webley patriot today can’t get it to work do I need much vasaline maybe they have changed the ingredients of it ??

Interesting. I like the idea of using the Vaseline instead of oil. Think I will try it and grease

@tomcatt998

2 жыл бұрын

i use food grade silicone grease

@DaveyMulholland

Жыл бұрын

Seen lots of comments saying vicks vaporub ignites easier than vaseline

Brilliant you should try this with the HDR50 I'm going to test it on my webley exocet 12 ft lb and my hdr50

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm going to give it a try.

Hi, do you think vaseline provoques the same effect in HDR50 steel balls?

I wonder if you could make a "from the ground up" purpose built gun utilising the dieseling principal entirely in the place of compressed air or a conventional chemical gun powder, I'm picturing a kind of twin tap system like on the BSA airsporter but one tap at the front for the pellet and one behind it which could allow a measured amount of a given fuel that sits in a prepared chamber once the taps closed and is initiated or detonated or whatever by a small spring driven piston,, like way smaller than an air rifle mainspring and just designed to slam into the petroleum jelly and maybe a way for it to lock in place until you open the tap again,, what do you think just in theory?

will dieseling work with the 10 pump Crosman classic hand pistol?

wow i'm gonna try this tomorrow!!

I’ve always used 3 in 1 oil. Just a tiny drop works wonders. I found that out when I was lubricating my crappy pellet rifle when I was a kid I about 1970! My rifle survived perfectly & its seals are perfect still! Quite a long time now.

@spiritualawakenings6251

2 жыл бұрын

3 in 1 causes a lot of build up that resembles cosmoline after a while. WD-40 is much cleaner and much more powerful.

@jasoncannon8402

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritualawakenings6251 dose WD-40 mess up the seal's with rapid rot rate ?? I'm seriously asking not trying to make any argument 🙂

@spiritualawakenings6251

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasoncannon8402 Not yet. But even if ot did it would be a cheap and easy fix, nothing to stress over. When I see these arguments online about seals it tells me one of two things, #1 someone is very inexperienced or #2 someone is very poor and stressing over a two dollar fix that is one day going to have to be done anyway.

@jasoncannon8402

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritualawakenings6251 thank you lots for that information. I'm 42 and never heard about dieseling and used brake barrel since I was 10. Man I would know so much more by now if I did.. DOES Vaseline make build up?? Cuz I tried it

@spiritualawakenings6251

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasoncannon8402 If you tried it you should know.

Youre the only one that explains what dieseling actually is. Soo many people think its because the diesel fuel creates a tiny explosion, but thats BS because diesel must be in vapor form to be combustable. All it does is create a better seal, for less energy loss, creating a more powerful shot.

I found that less Vaseline deep in the pellet works better than filling it.

@mitragyn-tonic8253

Жыл бұрын

The same with WD40, when i full fill the pellet, it not ignite all When i put less in, it better work

What I've tried putting in the skirt (1drop) of the pellet and worked. Gun oil (m pro 7) Synthetic motor oil (5w30) Actual diesel (red) Grease (white lithium) Lucas oil (red and green gun oil) Obviously Vaseline lol I'm sure other hydrocarbons work just fine, in the skirt of the pellet.

@fridaycaliforniaa236

2 жыл бұрын

In theory, every fuel has a point where compression is enough to ignite it, so basically every hydrocarbon should work, given the gun produces enough pressure =)

@ratdad48

Жыл бұрын

Vicks vapor rub. Makes a loud pop, if you like noise. It's the menthol.

Liquid wrench lubricating oil in the back of each pallet is the fastest I've found

@thefinalsay8330

2 жыл бұрын

Have u tried alot of different stuff? Also I was thinking of doing a drop of 91% alcohol, synthetic atf oil or synthetic 0w 20 and wrench oil?

Yes sir and take vicks vapor rub mix with fire cracker blackpowder and put behind pellet....wow!!!

ANYWAY TO LIGHT UP THE TRIGGER PULL ? OR MAKE ADJUSTABLE TRIGGER .. I HAVE A BEEMAN 22 CAL RIFLE

Awsome video Awsome results!!! I deisal my bigcat 1000 ... it WILL 'Hurt" things bad Thanks

Ever try blending Vaseline with linseed or wd-40 or charcoal lighter fluid or just using plain coconut oil or vegetable shortening?

Any food grade oil that we can use?

Curious to see if you combined Vaseline on the projectile and 3 in 1 In the air reserve 😊

Does this work with co2 air rifles

Ive always thought , how can it blow the seals ? The pellet would have to be stuck , or berrel clogged , ive never tryed this but maybe i will try now ....thanks

@Maddogairguns

Жыл бұрын

I have thought the same, I wonder if it comes from people that have tried it with a knackered gun, that needed a new seal anyway.

can you test the HDR50 and diesel a devastator round and see what's the difference between a nondieseled one and a dieseled one. Also I'm on a forum with these guys saying it'll destroy the Orings on the HDR50 but I don't even think there's any Orings by the barrel and the magazine where it holds the rounds, so no rubber parts will come into contact. Am I correct and please do a test TIA

Truth, the pellet takes the path of least resistance OUT THE BARREL 😜👍🇬🇧

Hi..Very interesting..Would this dieseling also work with co2 guns..Its compressed gas expanding or is it the molecular structure of the air..igniting under prearrure. IE will any preassure do ..from any source?

@MATTETRUEFACT

2 жыл бұрын

Keyboard now out the window:)

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to try, not sure it will work. But in the interest of science, I'll give it a go.

@zxggwrt

2 жыл бұрын

It might not work because Co² tends to extinguish fire. Just a guess.

@MATTETRUEFACT

2 жыл бұрын

@@zxggwrt Yes..but i meant co2 mixing with the chemicals of the vaseline..or if a chemist knows about a reaction wcompound that ignites with co2..thats what i meant..

@patthewoodboy

2 жыл бұрын

@@MATTETRUEFACT it will need air , you need the oxygen in the air for the ignition

Does this work with the HDR50?

Great 🐇 gun !!

is there a chance of Vaseline residue building up in the barrel and forming a gas seal on front of the pellet? or does it just melt away and get scrubbed by the next pellet..I'm dying to try this..

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

I've not noticed any in the barrel, I think the pellet does a pretty good job at scraping it out.

I like to use vegetable oil. It diesels just as good.

Little off topic.... Regarding the HDR50 what's better to lubricate co2 chamber. A drop of oil such as umarex t4e oil on tip of co2 cartridge or a specific type of silicone spray into the chamber. My hdr50 is arriving this week (Jan 7th) and I could use your advice on how to lubricate it and any other advice before its 1st use I recall seeing earlier video's where silicone spray was used

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

I started by putting a dab of pellet gun oil on the tip of the co2, now I use silicone spray, a quick squirt into the co2 chamber and all seems good.

@baddrabbit71

2 жыл бұрын

Any specific silicone spray or just any type

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

I just use this stuff www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B072BZZ41R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just a drop in the back of the pellet works good.

Safer for your seals too.

And the great thing is, your rifle itself is still legal🙂 ... If you get stopped with vaseline in your possession you can say you're doing a bit of pest control at Julian Clary's house

@removefear178

2 жыл бұрын

Love your gag bro!

What if you mixed diesel in with the Vaseline?

Purposely making a rifle diesel is nothing new . Gerald carded modified the HW35 decades ago to make a commercial gun that relied on an accelerant . It was called the Barakuda . The big issue with dieseling is the lack of consistency . It was the done thing for us back in the 80’s to try and get our rifles to diesel in the quest for power , that and stuffing the biggest spring we could cram into the compression chamber . Simpler times when we thought an ox spring was actually not a piece of crap 🙂 .

4:19 That's what she said! Haha haha!

6:20 « so we're gonna try it now, see how much power it gets » 6:27 *SCHLACKKKK* Me : omfg, that's a good one 😂

can you do this with a co2 pistol?

and dieseling with hdr50, is it possible?

My american ass is googling mps to fps right now.

Vicks works great

I just got the gamo g-magnum 1250 igt , it’s brand new and I’m afraid to ruin it but it’s definitely a temptation to try it out 😂

@savage22bolt32

Жыл бұрын

Man's quest to conquer new frontiers, to know the unknown... Cat's out of the bag, we all have to try this now.

Is it now a fire arm?

If you put the pellet into the barrel first, then really fill the pellet with Vaseline, you should get even more power.

i diesel with my old chinese B3 . It works great . i haven't blown any seals or damaged my barrel. only downfall is the smell

Does this not damage the gun?

So I've been trying to suppress my .177 Gamo Swarm but it seems that no one makes it! Any ideas? Or do I need to design the first one?!

@Maddogairguns

Жыл бұрын

You might need to design something, unless you can find a universal one that'll fit the barrel.

Wow, i wonder if this would work for my Crosman 1322? Its a .22 pump pistol rated at 460fps. Ill need to get a chronograph and see. Thanks for the video.

@Aliyah_666

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine it would work yes. Gains may not be as high as more powerful rifles but I'd say you'd get more fps.

@stevengleave9241

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aliyah_666 ive tried different pellets and im sure its just to weak. Thanks for the reply.

I take motor oil an put my pellets in it in motor oil on a .177 f 4 b barrel an pellets go in every time an loud an done this 4. About a year now no damage but man lots of kick 2 my gun about like a 410 gone off

anything changed after all these years of dieseling??

Use to do this in the fifties when we were kids, used model engine fuel.

@spiritualawakenings6251

2 жыл бұрын

What airgun in the 50s had the power to ignite any type of fuel?

I can't believe nobody has used starter fluid. That sh it works lots better than any

REQUEST= Bro can you do one more think in my favor i have air rifles but i don't have chronograph I'm so curious to know if we mix petroleum jelly and gun poweder or flash powder & put it in the pellet skirt then fire it

@wileyanglin3728

Жыл бұрын

Let me know results … I have thought about it

@SandeepKumar-sb3jk

Жыл бұрын

@@wileyanglin3728 i think i have to do it @ my owns without chroni

In the process of makeing crude oil into gasoline,, or petrol,, there r many , many other things captured,,, from perifin wax to propane to vasaline,, "petroleum jelly", ,,,

I’m pretty new to this concept..so forgive me of it’s already occurred to folks in the air gun community has tried it, but what about soaking pellets in WD40?

@Maddogairguns

2 жыл бұрын

I guess, anything that has the potential to ignite might work.

When I was 12 my airgun smoke more than a firearm 😂.

I would like to know accuracy as well !

I do not know if the speed increase is a result of the dieseling, or as a result of the increased lubricity from the oil in the pipe. It may be that the lubricity is what is gaining you speed, and not the compressive aspect of the dieseling expanding the gasses. You could test this by using a non flammable lubricant and seeing if you still had speed increases.

@jasmine66666666

Жыл бұрын

Compressing deiseling causes small explosion behind pellet

@danielcadwell9812

6 ай бұрын

It's definitely not lubrication that causes the increase in power and speed.

Can you diesel a 72 cal. Air rifle????

Will this work with round projectiles.?

@Maddogairguns

3 жыл бұрын

If the chamber is sealed and you can get something in there, then I don’t see why not.

mix vaseline with smokeless powder, then put it in a 38 joule gamo magnum igt

I have a question: Does "Dieseling" also work with cal.68 or cal.50, with HDR50, HTP 50 or HDS 68?

@Maddogairguns

11 ай бұрын

Probably not, there is too much of an air gap around the magazine, rounds and barrel. For it to work you need a good seal for the compression.

I've got a Hatsan mod 130qe and it only lasted 1 dieseling session . It was fun but my gun died

I remember when they made guns kinda like the Red Rider BB gun but this gun didn't shoot BB's you added some oil in the oil hole cock it and shoot, a little noise n a little smoke.

Lol license for an air rifle. Thx good vid.