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That is not DCS in general, that is the Growling Sidewinder server specifically.
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Essentially xDDDDDDD
@apersonthatshere3029
14 күн бұрын
Yh GS is essentially just climb to 40k feet and launch the largest amount of aamrams at everything with a radar signature
Watching my derbys loft to the moon from obama has been hilarious
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Derbys are on bathsalts
@Agm1995gamer
15 күн бұрын
Derby is essentially a python 4 You launch it in less than 10km and you've got a free kill, anything more than that and you're up to luck.
@Agm1995gamer
15 күн бұрын
The loft is because it has a powerful booster but short burn.
that menu thing is relatable. Trying to increase throttle/pitch up while tilting left
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
It's quite annoying xDDD
HEY THATS ME IN THE FIRST CLIP
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
xDDDDDDDDD
@flyingtiger0506
15 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle hey, if u wanna do a bvr fight, I'd be down to fight u
@outlaw5075
15 күн бұрын
wait i think i know you, we would play custom games in WT a bunch with red right?
@tylerentertainment4115
15 күн бұрын
Prove it
@flyingtiger0506
15 күн бұрын
@@tylerentertainment4115 prove what?
Not gonna lie, I'm kinda butthurt the Italian F-16 doesn't have AMRAAMs. It should, really - Italy only used AMRAAMS kn their 16's and never Sparrows.... Gaijin never fails to disappoint. 😂
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
as per the usual
@gravityhighway1254
15 күн бұрын
And the Taiwanese f16 as well
@gansior4744
15 күн бұрын
Really? Italy never bought Aim-7M's for them? Intetesting
@PotatoeJoe69
15 күн бұрын
@@gansior4744 Yep. They only used AMRAAMs and AIM-9L's. The Italians never used AIM-7's or 9M's on their Vipers
@kennybewley4420
15 күн бұрын
I agree that realistically, it should have got amraams, but if you think about it from a tech tree oriented perspective, it's a bad idea. The grippen and the F-16ADF don't both need them. None of the other A variants got them besides the AM either, so if Gaijin gave the AIM-120 to one of the ADF/MLU variants, it would have to go to all of them.
I'm just going to say this. This update is the best update that has ever come to War Thunder (in my opinion). Multipathing is on the start to going down, Fox-3's have finally been introduced, a buttload of FM corrections, a bunch of MFD remodelling, Gaijin listening about the F-15C carrying more than 4 Aim-120's, i can go on. Personally after playing this game with the new fox-3's (coincidentally first one was against you Aero, hey man good fighting), i don't feel overpowered nor annoyed. In every conforntation where i died by an R-77 or AAM-4 (heck an Aim-7M at one point) wasn't this frustrating experience but more of "ahhh, i shoulda done this instead of that". Its clear when you make a mistake and it honestly begins to get easy to learn from those mistakes. I haven't gotten that feeling since my very short time on DCS. Now i will say i had plenty of help prior to this with heaps of knowledge on avoiding these missiles and also heaps if knowledge for air combat. For those who are getting decimated by Aim-120's, Mica's, AAM-4's, or any Fox-3 one Aero has already done a video tailored to WT itself so I'd definitely say go check it out. These missiles are evadable, very evadable tbh, it just takes the knowledge of what to do in the situation and the understanding of how energy states work. All in all, I love this update. A bunch of bugs need to be fixed still, however thats to be expected by now. If they keep things as they are rn while fixing all the bugs, i think we have ourselves a great game and a great future ahead of us as long as we keep in this direction.
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Yeah this update really feels like a quality of life update. Also the FOX-3's are very dodgable if you know the basics on how to evade em. Gaijin is 100% going in the right direction :D
As someone with none of the planes that carry ARH besides the F14, I will not be playing
@Hadgerz
15 күн бұрын
yeah this feels like one of those power creep/arms race moments where if you don't IMMEDIATELY start grinding them, you're going to be stuck with 2x 9Ls in a lobby full of fox3s. maybe in sim there'll be some goobers committing bobrun to farm, but it's going to be slow going
@bagelmaster2498
15 күн бұрын
@@HadgerzI’m so scared to play the f4f ICE for the first time lol
@creepyfishman6858
15 күн бұрын
@@Hadgerz Thats how it feels playing sweden rn but I have to grind an entire plane to get fox3s
@Red_Lion2000
10 күн бұрын
Phoenixes have actually been getting a lot of kills. F14 is doing well this patch.
Now THAT looks like a game about modern jets
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Oh yeah!!!
I’m finding that the teams that have the most players up high win every match. I think that people are slowly going to start realizing the meta has changed.
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Eventually
@adamlury6443
9 күн бұрын
Definitley with amrams you need to give your missle as much energy as possible and give yourself as much potential energy to evade incoming missles. Those who play dcs will have a huge advantage.
Glad to see US mains pretty satisfied for a moment at least...
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
wait until something feels slightly nerfed xD
@sherifaljeddawy2467
14 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle I've been fighting UFOs in my Frogfoot for a year or two bro... shit BR.
@VivianVeltra
13 күн бұрын
i mean i played all nations and lemme tell you when f16+f15 was addedwith their new missles USSR(which was its comp) could BARELY compete. Finna hear the "cope" after posting this xD
@cvrbon6
11 күн бұрын
me before the Gripen came out and the F-16C magically felt different
@Red_Lion2000
10 күн бұрын
@@VivianVeltra Cringe.
I got the R77 on the mig29smt and I felt like a god. It’s good in BFM and BVR. Was able to use hmd in dogfights and R77 preformed like an R73. Awesome missile.
@thatguynk8044
15 күн бұрын
Does it still have a lot of drag like it did on the dev?
@MtnDewMonsterz
15 күн бұрын
@@thatguynk8044I definitely feel like it does
@sarcasticfox2352
15 күн бұрын
50G Overload which is 15gs higher than the AMRAAM, kinda ridiculous
@m1sz3lpl24
15 күн бұрын
It still has omegadrag so it gets outranged heavily by all other fox 3 but all in all not a bad missile to use
@TheConnorM
15 күн бұрын
It still does, the 50g overload doesn’t help considering its drag coefficient so if you launch that thing at a high aspect don’t expect it to do much
Played 1 match in rb today, usually fly in sb, and caught 3 amraam in a row while flying around 50m above the ground and perpendicular to missiles. That was interesting xd
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
It depends on the map sometimes.
Other than Germany getting the short end of the stick this update, I'm kinda impressed how good it feels. Every nation gets these new missiles that are pretty lethal but on the other hand, they can be notched pretty simply if you know what you're doing. There doesn't feel like there's a single nation running away while everyone else is powercrept. There's a surprising amount of BVR skills and evasion tactics that transfer over from the likes of DCS. I also think that even though the smaller lobby games are rare, the multipathing height reduction kind of solves one of the biggest problems with Air RB. Multipathing at 100m in a 16v16 basically led to almost nobody dying at long range because flying on the deck was basically a free ticket to the furball. Some people aren't happy that most matches are still 16v16 but it's a lot less chaotic now. Potent BVR missiles and less effective multipathing have made positioning and defensive maneuvers way more important. And at least in my case, I'm definitely having to earn my way to the merge, focusing on my aspect to the target and paying attention to my RWR to see if the guy I'm about to get into a turnfight with is about to chuck a last ditch FOX 3 at me or an IR missile at me, each requiring different evasion methods on my part.
Chaff and flares is still bugged by the way
Multipathing is 60meters it’s perfect in my opinion
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
100%
Multipathing has been reduced from 100 meters to 60 meters from the changelog
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
This is awesome
@foicex
14 күн бұрын
Unless they lower the amount of players in RB this is terrible for gameplay
@jonathanoriley8260
13 күн бұрын
@@foicex No, it's not. It means now players will actually need to _learn_ how to play in a BVR world rather than be babied by super unrealistic multipathing that allows you to easily hug the deck. Either learn how to play the way Top Tier modern jets were always supposed to be played, or go back to props and early jets where you belong. Top Tier should belong to the skilled, not the chaff.
@foicex
13 күн бұрын
@@jonathanoriley8260 yeah you are right, not 80% of ppl that are complaining. Clearly the majority is wrong and they should change their opinions -.-
@jonathanoriley8260
13 күн бұрын
@@foicex Considering that the majority of Top Tier RB players are woefully low skill due to having rushed to top tier via premium vehicles, or just many of them not even understanding the basics of aerial warfare necessary for props let alone 4th gen tech, they are _absolutely_ wrong. Nothing screams "low skill" and/or a lack of understanding modern aerial warfare like a player complaining about no longer being able to effectively avoid SARH and ARH via hugging the deck because multipathing has finally been made closer to realistic (which it still isn't, because based on the radar/missile system its realistic effectiveness would be as high as 50m to as low as 5m, not a base 60m). DCS players do just fine in a world ruled by ARH without training wheels like highly exaggerated multipathing. Top Tier WT players need to learn to do the same, otherwise ya'll might as well go play Ace Combat.
Why do I shoot more than 2 flares per click pls help I can’t play
im trying to grind the swedish gripen c and aim7e is hell with lobbies as big as these
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Select the smaller lobbys option in air realistic settings
@carroteer
15 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle I did but i dont seem to see such lobbies and theyre 12v 12 not 8v8 anyway😔
@booblizard104
15 күн бұрын
That's one of the few bad things about this update for me, Gripen A is a pointless grindwall and lack of x2 stock radar homing missiles.
Gaijin used the explosion from the Challenge space shuttle distaster in their artwork.
@AeroTurtle
11 күн бұрын
w h at
"oh shit thats a new menu" yeaaaah i Unbound that my second game 😂
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
It's a killer 😂
@treanttrooper6349
15 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle got my ass too Bro 🤣 Shift + A to roll and turn, menu, BOOM like awwww man 🤣
The Growling Sidewinder update
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
xDD
The reason you didn't die in that first missile in the SIM match is the R-77's and 73's for whatever reason got a fragmentation or explosive nerf 8 times out of 10 they'll just "hit" their target. On the practice range I hit the low altitude F-86 Sabre with an R-73 and no severe damage and the high altitude one with an R-77 from my MiG-29 and again just a "hit"
@AeroTurtle
11 күн бұрын
Ohhh. Makes sense.
I love the music choice by meteor
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
Thank you! You can't go wrong with it!
@andreastz1190
13 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle damn right my favorite piece is richthofen
Air RB got really busted after update, facing full f16c teams with aim120's all the time while trying to grind the gripen c, US was winning every single match against small nations just by lobbing mindlessly missiles from further than IR missiles can reach. pretty much only map that was semi balanced was the city map.
@excalibur_maga6188
15 күн бұрын
Just like it should be realisticly
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
You could try and fly sim
whomever decided the keybind for the new menu, hasnt actually played the game, obviously
@AeroTurtle
5 күн бұрын
real and true
Had to disable the Shift+A option. I use left shift to max out AOA in Sim where it actually matters and can't have this menu popping up. Honestly this should only be an option for console gamers, no one on PC should be so lazy to not have their keys bound efficiently.
@AeroTurtle
13 күн бұрын
Yeah it has gotten me killed. Removed it quickly xD
Lucky bastard I’m stuck at work. The visual selector menu is cool I guess but I don’t see it being more useful than key binds that let me switch things on the fly. Excited for DCS gaming in warthunder was really fun in the dev server. And super hyped about separate chaff and flares that’s probably the biggest and most important change besides the missiles.
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
Hope the update is going awesome for you man!!!
@corybrown2197
14 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle getting the amraam for the F-15C was agony. But with some perseverance. And maybe a little bit of money. Top tier is fun again.
how do you lock targets with the missle while turning at @4:51? im still trying to figure it out.
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
It's HMS, and it only works with jets that have HMS, and missiles that support it like the AIM-9M
Please answer... why does my chaff flares not work. I seperated them and have seperate binds but it drops like 20 at a time so i only jave like 5 clicks of countermeasures...
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
What jet is it doing this on?
The weapon options menu in game is kinda useless, I have 6 and X assigned to scroll through weapon types. I will be finding the option and disabling it. It is redundant to me.
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
Search of visual. Should be the bind for it. Yeah it's kinda useless.
I'm tempted to try sim in too tier, how do you mive your head so well?
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
I use trackir for SIM.
did they reduce the multipath from 100m to 50 m ??????
@damadscientifik7022
15 күн бұрын
They did
@TheSuperbadkid
15 күн бұрын
60m
@cutthroat795
15 күн бұрын
Guess I’ll die now
@garrettobrien5197
15 күн бұрын
I believe it’s 60m now
@majorborngusfluunduch8694
15 күн бұрын
@@cutthroat795Learn instead of dying.
If u don't have amraams ur dead if u have them and don't sleep on the ground ur dead I love it
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Just fly high and play passive
Do you use track ir for sim battles?
@AeroTurtle
13 күн бұрын
I use trackir
There is bug with the flares/chaffs feature on the Mirage 2K 5F, it drop like 14 flares a time sadly
@jeffthecameraman5551
15 күн бұрын
From what I’ve heard and experienced that is most aircraft
@NsK363
15 күн бұрын
@@jeffthecameraman5551 Except US ones haha
@NsK363
15 күн бұрын
And also the amount is bugged. The 5F is missing the 112 internal CM's. We just have 48 CM at the moment haha
@Captain1991-
15 күн бұрын
@@NsK363 try with a jet with only one cursor, it’ll be fine, idk why we have 2 cursors on the Mirage
I cannot get these things to work no matter what I do, any help or tips would be appreciated. Fly in orbit so they don't burn energy getting to loft, no joy. Fire them at targets low to ground, in the stratosphere, flying straight at me it doesn't matter. No matter what I do these missiles just don't connect, and I am keeping lock too, at least until they reach active seeking range. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. It doesn't matter how I use them, ALWAYS miss, they don't even have to notch. I only have like 6 aim 120 kills and I played almost all day.
Chaff is absolutely too strong right now
YET ANOTHER great video, dude! Keep it up and have fun with this awesome upd :D Also, here first and before the vid's done loading fully :D
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Thank you for the support!!!! Have a great time with the update. I hope you get many kills!!!
What gear setup do you use for sim?
@AeroTurtle
11 күн бұрын
trackir and hotas x56 rhino
Yeah first game that menu got me killed haha, such an awful keybind
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
It really is!
Would be nice if my chaff and flares weren't broken
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
What's wrong with em?
@Deadtrigger777
15 күн бұрын
@AeroTurtle well with flares each pop of them uses waaaay more than usual (around 30 or more). It just straight up wont let me use chaff at all it says I have 0 when I load in no matter how many are selected. I play on xbox.
@leschroder7773
14 күн бұрын
@@Deadtrigger777 visual bug
can you share how you set your controls for sim? i have both a controller and a joystick but setting them up is hard and confusing for me because i dont know what keys and how i should set it up, i have tried a few setting in the past and they work well but all of them have one thing in common and thats not being able to properly look around at your surroundings in sim ive even tried using the mouse to help me but removing my main hand for controlling the plane for the mouse to look around doesnt go well with my other hand
@ryant367
15 күн бұрын
On ur joystick there should be a button that u can kinda move around, almost similar to a d-pad on a controller, use that to look around
@supermarinespitfire3760
14 күн бұрын
@@ryant367 I do use the joystick nipple for looking around buts it's very rough not smooth and hard to control even with 100 hours in sim I don't find it very clean to use cause when you wanna look slowly you can't really adjust the speed and when you wanna snap from left to right it also doesn't work since its fixed speed
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
I'll probably make a video in the future on that. I use trackir to look around in SIM.
@supermarinespitfire3760
14 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle thank you very much
How did u open that menu at like 1:38, or does anybody know the control for it?
I will say the splash damage is definitely over the top. If I multipath a missile and it hits the ground it shouldn't be exploding because the warhead isn't going to fuse. Not exploding and killing me anyway,
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Well it only works if your slow enough. So if you wanna use MP just fly faster. In the case of the flanker I killed, he would've died if I used a 9m or guns. He was dead either way.
@IronDuke39
14 күн бұрын
The Missle has an impact fuse, so it should also explode when it hits the ground
So far i know 20 games trying grinding mirage 2000 5 kill 20 death ( 5 kills is on moutain map when i can protect against the fox 3). In desert/water map i just leave now can even have a interest in playing this without fox 3
Darby missle is broken please check them out it’s really bad
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Broken good or bad?
@Deeez9065
15 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle horrible. It over lofts and just commits suicide every time it’s fired
Anyone else going through flares like crazy for no absolute reason?
@jeffthecameraman5551
15 күн бұрын
There is some bug where it launches multiple in one go
@theboothy91
15 күн бұрын
@@jeffthecameraman5551 it's been launching 30 at a time for me
Seek and destroy update out?
@desertfalcon1539
15 күн бұрын
Yep, it is out
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
ye
So Active Radar Missile need you to keep the target on radar until it can go on its own radar?
@majorborngusfluunduch8694
15 күн бұрын
It helps the missile to keep tracking the target until it it goes pitbull but you don't "need" to.
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
This
@RT42069
14 күн бұрын
If you break lock too early, it will just keep going to where the target's last heading was when you broke lock. Meaning that if your target changes direction before the missile sees it, the missile probably won't find it
Justice for the Italian and Taiwanese Vipers! Give them AMRAAMs!!
Hey turtle. Have you ever heard of VTOL VR?
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Yes :>
Growling Sidewinder server be like
This update made germany unplayable for half a year, it gave germany a flying bus with aim-120s as a silver lining, it is the ONLY nation without a 13.0, and arguably should have been given the polish F-16 giving them an actual good plane with more AMRAAMS, if they dont give germany the eurofighter or swiss F-18 next update gremany will truly be screwed
I have the feeling that anything except amraams is kinda useless? Maybe just a skill issue
@AeroTurtle
13 күн бұрын
Kinda. I would still bring IR missiles in sim. This is because IR missiles in sim are far more op. But in rb, I would only bring 1 IR or 2 at most.
Of only gaijin would spend some time coming up with new game modes.
bluefor Spamraam "tactics"
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
OHHH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
Can the aim 120 still pull a 180 on the live server?
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
I gotta give it a test
@foxytube562
15 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle it works i died to one last match!
@Flaming_Hawk_1
15 күн бұрын
@AeroTurtle that would be awesome! I love dogfighting (and i play ps4) so this would be cool to see
As a DCS player, it does NOT feel like DCS lmao. Cant ever compare the two. That’s like CoD to Battlefield (in their better days)
@IronDuke39
14 күн бұрын
the sim mode is close to what GS server does... and BTW the radar is better simulated in WT than in the DCS F16...
only Tornado and nothing else !
Yo try f4 ICE I dare you
@TheSatiricalGamer
15 күн бұрын
He won’t put himself in the position of pain 😂
@notmyrealaccount5245
15 күн бұрын
@@TheSatiricalGamer Spookston does😂😭
@rgaeaben8043
15 күн бұрын
@@notmyrealaccount5245He’s a ground player tho. So you really can’t compare.
@notmyrealaccount5245
15 күн бұрын
@@rgaeaben8043 just doing it for fun? 🥺
@rgaeaben8043
15 күн бұрын
@@notmyrealaccount5245 Ok that’s fair then.
Pls do more rb videos
Can anyone answer my question I’m thinking of buying golden eagles can I then use these golden eagles to skip the research parts and get the fighter jet I’m new to this game and I’m a kid please anyone answer me
@vanshkhokhar5119
15 күн бұрын
Yes u can use ge (golden eagle) to get parts or u zay research parts yes u can and u can also ge the whole grind of the plane but i will recommend you to grind and play have experience before buying and getting dying cuz u don't know wht to do
@SheepFuvker0001
14 күн бұрын
@@vanshkhokhar5119 can I just use golden eagles to skip doing research for a fighter jet I just want to get F16 fighter now
What's the song at 10:41?
@VectorGhost
15 күн бұрын
Farts in yo face -gucci mang
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
All the music is from bolo heatblur soundtrack
@guilhermevitorio273
15 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle the One i pointed out had a shamisen playing, which isn't bolo :/ Edit: the song I was looking for is called "Kai" by Meteor, from the album "Of Ghost and thunder"
The R-77 having 50G overload which is 15Gs more than the AMRAAM is wild
@desertfalcon1539
15 күн бұрын
Whilst having pretty much half the range and crazy high drag
@sarcasticfox2352
15 күн бұрын
@@desertfalcon1539 Range is the same as the AMRAAM at least on Paper
@m1sz3lpl24
15 күн бұрын
On paper aim7 got like 60km range don't look at that shit lmao
@VectorGhost
15 күн бұрын
@@sarcasticfox2352 on paper...that's it
@Juho-uf8si
15 күн бұрын
@@sarcasticfox2352 yeah and skyflash has 50km range on stat card :D doesnt mean shit in practice
Is the update out now?
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Yup!
@theboostedbass5297
15 күн бұрын
yea
@FRANKARI-sk3qw
15 күн бұрын
Yep
HOW DO I DISABLE THAT MENU I HATE IT, I'VE BEEN KILLED MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF THAT :'c Edit: nevermind I just saw how you did it. Thx so much. Beautiful video btw
Wtf you pronounce missile 2 different ways?
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
Because I can
Brother it is the single best update in the history of war thunder. I love aim 120 and the reduction of MP.
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
It's absolutly amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MERICA!!!!!!!!!
@Red_Lion2000
10 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle Fuck America.
already nerf
And now everyone is doing the same thing. This is the peak of dogshit gameplay in general,its just not entertaning and satisfying anymore in my case,like when I got my first top jet I was so excited, but now I just dont even want to start the match,so the only thing I will do is just research new harrier because Ive waited for it so long and get outta this place
@AeroTurtle
14 күн бұрын
Just play a lower br if you don't want to BVR
@justgaming8664
14 күн бұрын
@@AeroTurtle funny thing is that I spent an entire day just to understand how it should be lauched and how to dodge them by myself and I got it xD
the moment when WT has a better simulated radar than DCS lol
still far from dcs
@NuclearFalcon146
15 күн бұрын
I see hints of the Growling Sidewinder server but that is it.
@I_Krypton_I
15 күн бұрын
@@NuclearFalcon146 Overall yes, it's similar to the meat grinder on GS, but I'd say the fights in WT are even more meaty now. And DCS is a simulator, WT is an arcade with a simulator flavor.
@majorborngusfluunduch8694
15 күн бұрын
@@I_Krypton_IWT Sim falls under a long dead genre called "Simlite". Where the mechanics are realistic but how you control the planes is simplified to some degree for accessibility.
@AeroTurtle
15 күн бұрын
Feels like the growling sidewinder server