Ive been playing 40k for 10 years, and I can confidently say i have never seen any slaneesh player be exxcited at all for any of the abilities they have ever been given. Truly the masochists army

@kharchieff

16 күн бұрын

the prevous temptation dice/depravity system was cool though. even if it was without the summoning

0:57 Battle Traits 3:06 Fane of Slaanesh 4:40 Battle Formations 7:10 Heroic Traits 8:25 Artefacts of Power 10:13 Spell Lore 13:30 Manifestation Lore 14:32 Manifestation Lore Mesmerising Mirror 16:15 Manifestation Lore Wheels of Excruciation 17:20 Manifestation Lore Dreadful Visage 18:54 Glutos Orscollion 23:18 Sigvald 25:19 Shardspeaker of Slaanesh 27:07 Lord of Pain 28:37 Lord of Hubris 30:48 Syll'Esske 33:31 Shalaxi Helbane 37:10 Keeper of Secrets 41:03 The Masque 42:26 Synessa 44:59 Dexcessa 47:35 Contorted Epitome 48:55 Infernal Enrapturess 50:23 Bladebringer: Herald on Exalted Chariot 51:48 Daemonettes 54:19 Fiends 56:11 Hellflayer 57:45 Seeker Chariot 58:15 Seekers 59:03 Hellstriders 1:00:22 Slickblade Seekers 1:02:26 Blissbarb Seekers 1:03:45 Blissbarb Archers 1:05:43 Slaangor Fiendbloods 1:06:53 Symbaresh Twinsouls 1:08:32 Mymisdesh Painbringers 1:09:32 Conclusion

Feels like they mixed up the abilities of the twinsouls and painbringers

@pavro_w0t719

28 күн бұрын

For real. Why is the unit with huge shields the offensive one and the one with less armor and two weapons os the defensive one??

@cegla_a

27 күн бұрын

Literally. Like, why...?

@Dreadnob

27 күн бұрын

It says it right there in the name. One brings the pain, the other... souls the twin?

@TrebleAmp

27 күн бұрын

Yeh absolutely! 🤣🫣

Bro how did Slaangor manage to get even worse. You've had 3 tries now, come on.

@LukeJohnson-uh6cs

29 күн бұрын

Haha 😂

@adolfoatreides4172

28 күн бұрын

They are rough. Lots more misses than hits in this book. It seems like it’s gonna be a spam demons book.

@rotm4447

28 күн бұрын

@@adolfoatreides4172 I dislike how you want a keeper for pendant/strongest alone but bringing it pigeons you into demons. They should have swapped the abilities of HoS and Shalaxi.

I feel that Blades of Khorne keeping blood tithe points, but tying it to activating abilities rather than summoning, was the better approach for Chaos battle traits. A revamp of depravity points, with a handful of abilities (one that could be giving euphoric) would have been a better core for Slaanesh to build around.

You're doing the AOS community-as well as anyone curious about it-a tremendous service with these videos. Thank you!

Man, I think whoever designs HoS at GW hates the army.

Can't believe GW cut seeker cavalry 2" move. Now seeker light cavalry are same move as Blood knights heavy cavalry. Also Lumineth keeps his 14" Dawnrider heavy cavalry. Seems like GW not even give you a battle trait that benefit opponent , and make HoS players to use it, to pay the temptation dice point cost for the opponent.

Worth noting ecstatic throngs battle formation synergises with the fane of slaanesh terrain dishing out d3 mortal damage

I am a Hedonites player for both competitive and just general play and I have to say I hate the battle trait. Yes the auto give your opponent a 12" charge is horrendous, but giving your opponent aeldari fate dice for wanting to play your army is quite simply... stupid. It even gets around (potentially) Keeper -1 to hit if they want to spend it on that. The fact that it only has a 33% chance to punish your enemy for using the Temptation mechanic (and only on D3 mortals) is not, imo, a sufficient deterrent on whether they want to do it or not. Even Slaanesh's relatively high rend is countered by this mechanic, because your opponent basically knows they can save if they've got a Temptation dice in reserve by just placing it there, and then be 'relatively' safe 66% of the time afterwards. By dice then, it seems like it is almost always more useful to do 2 hits over mortals that the spell can give you because it might make it mathematically worse off for your opponent to guarantee saves against you, however there is no *guarantee* that you'll get the extra hit, but there is a guarantee that your opponent will (potentially decide) to make the save against you. This is why I hate the mechanic with the passion of the Khorne v Slaanesh 'relationship.' It would imply that you will need to combo charge and overwhelm portions of your enemy, but you were probably doing that before anyway, but now things are more likely to bite you back for playing your army outside just your opponent or your plays.

Hrm. So I'm not at all surprised we lost the ability to ally in STD... ... I am actually pretty surprised we don't seem to have gotten our own Daemon Princes and/or Soulgrinders though. Daemon Princes particularly just feel like such a Pretenders thing, like if you wanted to play a mortal who's risen from the bottom to Daemonhood and now has convinced themselves they can snatch Slaanesh's vacant throne... Ah well. I had a backup plan just in case this should occur. And maybe come Battletome time those missing units will be included then. I can hope right? ... wait that's a Tzeentch thing... *is devoured for apostasy*

@bartek_ewertowski

29 күн бұрын

Yeah it is weird especially since the Daemon prince has a Slaanesh head option.

@worthless_punk

29 күн бұрын

yeah slaanesh loves stds

@KelstenGamingUK

19 күн бұрын

You’d think if any army had STDs, it’d be Slaanesh.

Thanks for the info , I have an entire 3k points of my Nurgle daddies I was looking at Slaanesh next

Where can i find all these full faction pack leak things? I thought these woloudnt come up like after 9th august

@eliasegger6625

29 күн бұрын

Yes would be good to know

@assift1246

29 күн бұрын

Some chosen ones got them earlier. We peasants can just wait a little longer.

E-pit-oh-me is correct pronunciation Joyous Battle Fury only gives a maximum of plus 1 for a single turn unless there is another way to get those tokens

@RionikuAnjiru

24 күн бұрын

The tokens don't expire, so you get as many attacks as you have tokens until the end of your next turn, but if you don't keep fighting, the extra attacks turn off.

Every turn means you would have to do said things at every turn. Any turn means you don't have to do it at all, you can do it on 1 turn or both turns.

Praise be Slaanesh! I am very excited to test these guys out. The Battle Traits had all of us worried, but I think the warscrolls and extra stuff might make them work

@rotm4447

29 күн бұрын

I don't see why, basically every single unit looks worse except the keeper in an army that already had bad scrolls and crutched on allegiance abilities that are now gone.

@Troobalaro

29 күн бұрын

@@rotm4447 almost every single unit in the game this edition got nerfed. Look at it in a new light. Some standouts: Glutos still very good, Dexcessa + Synessa combo is actually playable, Daemonettes went from 5+ to 6+ 6+++ and get +1 attack on the charge. Spell lore is decent. KoS is better. Our cavalry is still very capable. Also keep in mind we haven’t seen points yet

@rotm4447

29 күн бұрын

@@Troobalaro Gluttos is slower, lost damage, lost his giant -1 hit aura, lost a save. He isn't a standout from where I'm standing. A standout is demon prince or belakor or something that you know, actually got better instead of worse. Dexcessa is a combat monster with 10w and 5+ save, just nah. Like that's worse than a aleguzzler. She just dies. The points already had to drop drastically without command point spamming and depravity. Now the shooting is way worse too.

@Troobalaro

29 күн бұрын

@@rotm4447 Dexcessa also has a 5+++ and -1 to hit assuming you’re bringing Synessa, and she actually has a way to heal now. Our army has always been a glass cannon army, so idk why you’re surprised. Give an enemy Phantasmagoria and she can easily retreat from combat. Glutos lost the -1 to hit aura but now massively buffs the melee and control of nearby mortals (the downside being it takes time to reach that bonus). His heal is more reliable too. I think he’ll still be pretty damn strong, and him going down from nearly 500 points isn’t out of the question

@rotm4447

29 күн бұрын

@@Troobalaro Yeah better go buy the other $110 model if you want to get to play the one you bought.

Hanging on your every word! Can’t wait for your coverage of the Cities of Sigmar!

Hell yeah thanks for the breakdown rob!

Depraved carnival formation with terrain piece can damage a unit to get the terrain +1 wound ability which would make then also +1 to hit as they will have the damage from terrain. Makes things a bit better for that one I guess

Great vid as always

PRAISE SLAANESH! \o/ (Excited, thank you!)

Pleasure to tune in to you. Im still laughing at "if you stand near a donkey on a wednesday..." for the conditions of some ability.

I'm excited by this - lots of cool abilities and combos that if you can get off you'll slap! Painbringers and twinsouls may have mixed up warscroll abilities but they both have key roles now and with some simple buffs they'll be scary. Blissbarbs may have got even better as a screen, whack a block of 20 in front of your army, make them euphoric turn 1 and even if you go second you'll probably get to fire those 40 shots at something using covering fire. Glutos looks a really good centrepiece, as does Shelaxi - need to decide which to paint first now. Yes, loads of scrolls seem very meh but feel there's plenty of play here.

Didn't realize until just now that the Shard Seeker is Rita Repulsa.

Thanks Rob. Fantastic video

kruelboyz or nurgle next lord high daddy honest wargamer. thank you for doing these also

Is there a link to every leaked warscroll or was it just screenshots?

I feel like Dexcessa and Synessa should have 4+ saves for the points they have. With how many profiles have 1 rend and anti (something) that I've seen this edition a 5+ save is basically tissue paper. I'm probably gonna run them anyway because the models are cool, but they definitely don't look great.

Keep up the great work 🎉

In my personal opinion, this is spicey

Great review. Thanks. One question: if the opponent uses the temptation dice to get a "12" on a charge roll, will Glotos' spell counter that or how does that interact?

Pity Lords of Change are trash :S HoS Feels like a high skill ceiling army with the tempation dice

@timwilhelmi9358

29 күн бұрын

If by high skill you mean winning after giving your opponent a 12" charge takes a lot of skill or a miracle, then yes you are right

Man some units got so damn bad. Like slaangors are nerfed so hard. The harp also massive neff to only mess with a singel spel. The mirror hero used to be such a good caster with a realy nice spell also massive nerf. I realy hope dexcessa and synessa will be cheap af and not useless like last edition. Did they also remove alot of the chariot heroes? Used to be 3 varients (which felt a bit too much). Im surprised there aint much buffing your own speed. Some things looks realy nice. I hope the archers on seekers get 14 inch range otherwise you cant do 2 euphoric killers since u will be within guaranteed charge range 😅

where did he get this from??? is there one for any of the undead armies?

Hi there, the clear objective markers from your shop just arrived. Very nice, thank you. Good Idea. So many are ruin the map because of different colors

You’re a rockstar! Thanks a ton!

Love you, Rob!

Phantasmagoria, because of the timing, wouldnt the unit get to pile in as part of the fight ability?

Let’s see if they are as bad as the internet says :D

So what I got from this video is that every unit needs Euphoric to be decent.

@thehonestwargamerstreams

25 күн бұрын

They could have it

@rotm4447

25 күн бұрын

Well points are out so I guess our list looking like 60 blissbarbs and 10 slickblades again.

Can you also do Beasts of Chaos? We haven't had a single leak or attention yet.

Keep up the great work

The big demons make it seem very interesting

Rob can you please do Khorne as soon as you can, thank you for the videos!

Enjoying content on the internet yeah that’s my jam

@thehonestwargamerstreams

26 күн бұрын

Love ya

Crazy Glutos lost his 3+ armor while other big units got to keep theres for some reason

@thehonestwargamerstreams

26 күн бұрын

He has wild healing + rally

still kinda sucks that we have to use an ability AND magic to get mortals while some other armies just have it, but the army does look better than I thought it would but I agree that there's not really much to deal with the charges and no reason to use all three of the available points. The blissbarb homunculus and blissbarb seekers are just worse and the only other issue I have is that I hate the twin soul models compared to the pain bringers XD

Does shalaxi stop the charge move of the enemy hero?

What’s next review ? I am very interested into the orruk warclan review 🙏

Praise be Slaanesh

Is it possibile that attacks can go down to 0 attacks? A Limit gives only by Hit,wound and save .

@LukeJohnson-uh6cs

29 күн бұрын

Naah minimum of 1

The excess of all these faction reviews pleases Slaanesh!

Whilst the Battle Traits are still poor, he Warscrolls (for the most part) feel great. Looking forward to using Hell Flayers and Daemonettes again (points depending)

I'm so excited to give Hedonites a try! Just started to pick them up at the end of 3rd. Looking to run a regiment with exalted and 3 hellflayers

I don't know why I feel tempted by slaanesh this edition....

@LukeJohnson-uh6cs

29 күн бұрын

They'll be the hard mode of the game if they don't change that allegiance ability

yooooo lets wololo

Are these leaks or does it come more of em? Looking for FEC, Sigmar and Ironjaws.

@JoshMyers-yt9xx

28 күн бұрын

These videos take hours to make. He just started releasing them. Give him time. lol.

Yep we've been shafted. For a chaos faction that focuses on s&m we seem to have been given a whole lot of m with no s!😂

Wait, where is the warscrolls for the Viceleader, Seekers, Hellstriders or the chariot heroes? Im fairly certain i read that warcry bands are out but did I miss something else?

@icarosun8445

28 күн бұрын

Probably they will be remove too. Any model in finecast (like Viceleader) are dismiss this year.

@MocnySquall

28 күн бұрын

Seekers and hellstriders have rules. They are shown in this video.

@Juicyjim57

27 күн бұрын

The exalted chariot is hero only, the smaller two no longer have the option to become heroes.

@viatheanteprian5639

27 күн бұрын

@MocnySquall oh damn, i even reflipped through the video (skimmed really) and didnt see their scrolls. I must be blind af. Glad to know i just overlooked em :)

Worried about needing euphoria to actually do critical effects other armies does for free. Will have to feel how it playsbi guess.

Thanks for not doing Slaanesh last! Excited to finally dust off my Hellstriders

euphoric doesn't even effect gluttos attacks right?

@bigtom8925

29 күн бұрын

It's up in the air, companions can't be affected by another units ability, but the battle traits isnt coming from another unit. I expect an faq very quickly

Are you gonna show nighthaunt?

Wait is there a way to give sigvald 3d6 charge?

@NicholasMoen-le3fo

28 күн бұрын

There was in 3.0 if you played chaos warshrine as an ally. Doesn't seem to be a way to do it so far in 4.0

@jamesoconnor505

24 күн бұрын

Deamonic speed.

They somehow made fiends even worse. Glad I got an FEC army ready for 4th instead.

Oh my, this is wildin' out awesome. Nurgle Bless you Chaos lot.

So not only did most of warscrolls get way worse (and before someone says everything has gotten worse, that’s blatantly untrue and there are several channels on KZread doing the mathhammer proving it.) We are pretty much playing without an army rule. Our command traits are meh, we have one good formation, and our artifacts are once per battle or garbage. Unless we are comically cheap and are able to go horde mode, I’m thinking HoS will be sub 40% winrate until they get rewritten just like DE, ad mech, and DG in 10th. They all had the same problems as HoS and HoS will probably require the same solution.

SLAVES TO DARKNESS WHEN

Do Tzeentch and try to find anything nice to say about them

Hey guys I'm really interested in going for a full mortal army with hedonites. Is it viable ? I find the mortal minis so beautiful compared to the kinda aging daemonettes.

@Troobalaro

29 күн бұрын

100% Viable. Glutos is a great center piece model if you want him, and the mortal infantry should be relatively cheap. I have run lists with all of the small mortal heroes before with, for example, 2x5 Myrmidesh and a unit of 5 Symbaresh (would run more if I had the models), with either 2x11 Blissbarbs or a big block of 22. The Mortal Seekers are really good and fun to use, too. The main nerf to Hedonite MORTAL units (lets not talk about our army abilities) this edition, IMO, is that Blissbarbs got a big nerf to their homunculus and the Lord of Pain got knocked toa 5+ ward which really hurts his strength

can nighthaunt be next please

Slaves when?

GW still doesn't like chariots. Definitely feels like there's huge misses. Fiendbloods. Don't know why they don't have something like can't be targeted outside of 12" if they're near terrain or something. Painbringers and twinsould are weird. Not very well defined roles imo

Thanks for doing my faction bud

"hey man, what do you think about my girlfriend? she's so sweet and loves me!" Rob: 8:01

This is Slaanesh, therefore it IS pronounced DOMage. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2mouqmQipSwhZs.htmlsi=YTVEDoCZL6bwTHxY&t=2080

Interesting Combo: Lord of Hubris with say; a Keeper of Secrets. Cast Phantasmagoria on the Lord of Hubris and combo charge the enemy death dealing unit, force the lord of hubris choice, if they decide to accept, phantasmagoria away the Lord of Hubris out of combat wasting the enemy attack, then attack with the keeper.

It's hard being a man in the hobby.

@thehonestwargamerstreams

29 күн бұрын

Really hard

A bit disqppointed. Love the army but the rules are so convoluted.

Rob is the goat

Jesus what they did to this army is horrible

@BruderSenf

17 күн бұрын

yup, the temptation dice were never a really powerful mechanic but it was a fun one but now its god awful

An immortal master duellist and Slaanesh' favourite champion shouldn't rely on a gimmick to punch above a nameless foot hero.

PLS FEC AS NEXT FACTION PACK ❗❗❗

Glutos can't even use crit 2 hits right? Since his attacks are companion weapons....?

Feels like they mixed up the abilities of the twinsouls and painbringers