Hera was constantly on the backfoot when he needed to take initiative. Good HRE game - haven't seen many before.

Once someone goes handcannons you're forced to match them I've found in my games. Once a mass is built nothing stands up to them except hand cannons and your own mangos

@PotatoMcWhiskey

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucaxtshotting2378 No shot dude, look at hcannons hp they are insanely tanky considering their dps only thing that counters them is getting a triple mago shot into the center mass otherwise with even a trickle of spears and seige support they will melt anything

@mircearadio5474

2 жыл бұрын

only english archers counters handcanonier mass , other civ must do mangos ... ralbequin is not an options cuz of its small range

@felipeuseche332

2 жыл бұрын

I find it beautiful. Late game handcannons just destroy everything, like they did eventually in history. I find it appropiate that they are so powerful, just like mass cannons and buldings. Castles became obsolete against late medieval artillery.

@siorac1147

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucaxtshotting2378 true but longbowmen are a lot cheaper - 90 resources vs 240 - and of course longbowmen don't need gold which is an advantage in itself. Longbowmen also outrange hand cannoneers. It isn't a perfect counter at all, of course, but the English can churn them out really really fast.

@firmanimad

2 жыл бұрын

yea you don't throw men-at-arms at musketmen

Something about watching late game battles is beautiful. Because there is so much each Civ can do.

@male_maid5951

2 жыл бұрын

except dehli..... becouse everything take so long to research

The coat over the horse is called a caparison. It's like the gambeson for the horse.

That reference to Indeed Holy, indeed Roman and indeed an Empire... only true elites would understand.

@drenghel4641

2 жыл бұрын

Would you indulge of this knowledge ?

@TheKingDain

2 жыл бұрын

@@drenghel4641 It's an often employed Voltaire quote. "The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy nor Roman, nor an Empire.” Mind you he is writing this in the middle of the 18th century.

@drenghel4641

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKingDain Thanks I shall go the bed less stupid

I love these more late-game games. And Sacret Sites are one of the best additions to the game to the game in my opinion. Really pushes players to meet in the middle at some key location and throw everything they got.

i died when he try to pronounce the mangudai upgrade

Thanks for the classic HRE reference at the end! Hahaha

Hera had 4k stone in bank when the game finished. Certified bruh moment

The outro was hilarious

12:20 oh man i love this part so much

Great game thx Drongo

your commentary is amazing, keep doing it

Indeed Holy indeed Roman and indeed an Empire

Hera sitting on 3k gold and not make a push into the middle hurt me physically.

@TonyValdezCeballos

2 жыл бұрын

I have seen a lot of Mongol players fall into that trap. If you have the Silver tree you should be pushing like there is no tomorrow. Once Leenock took the middle it was game over.

@BeckJoseR

2 жыл бұрын

And he shouldn't have put so much into his mangudai. They are such a terrible unit, the moment he saved his trade line, he should have went full Lancer and counter pushed

Greetings from Canada! Love your videos. You should think about doing a series like Harstem in SC2: Beating Grandmasters with stupid stuff. Soooo many fun videos you could try with AOE!

Funny you should say "so you're not gonna see those cracks [in the mountain leading to the middle] anymore" because I got exactly that today on my second ever game of french pass

Love the sheer power of HRE

indeed holy, indeed roman, indeed an empire.

"If you've got a crack then you can control it" Well.. do I even need to say anything

leenock is a legendary sc2 player, from the fOu clan

The only Option Hera had was to switch to the other site. Dude had an unbeatable amount of culverins, a handcannon ball and mangonels xd, nothing can deal with that except mb chinese very late game. However he kept trying going wich was not great. Leenok macro and economy was not perfect however on a strategy level he was 3 steps ahead it looks like :). Very promising for the future of this game.

The over commitment to Mangudai, and lack of offensive pressure, lost it for Hera. The moment he preserved his trade line, he should have switch over to full Lancer and counter attacked. Mangudai are terrible units with a very narrow window where they can be useful.

just in time for dinner!

"if you got crack you ca control it" 😆

Good game.

I would be interested to see you commenting on your own game play. When can we see that?

sooo what do you consider us monggols to be? is it too zergish ?

I dun understand why hre player never garrison extra relic in forward keep and build town center around them . He could have use the emergency repair to heal the keep instead of repairing with villager

@Falindio

2 жыл бұрын

That's great in theory but might be tricky to pull off, depending on the level of play it is pulled, the map, and opponent's aggressiveness, since it's a lot of investment made into static buildings.

The late game comp for HRE is Xbow+M@A/spears, 3 mangonels, and a culverin or two to defend the mangonels and kill enemy mangonels. the culverin is such a powerful late game unit.

Can't help myself, gonna be that guy. The Holy Roman Empire was Germany mostly almost no italy/Rome at all lol

@Toonrick12

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, it did contain a good amount of Italy in the early days. Granted, it was always rebelling, but what can yea do.

where can i download the age of ampire 4 please anyone tell me the site

I just got a crack in my most recent french pass

I love how drongo says Lee NOCK

@Vonias

2 жыл бұрын

how else would you say it?

@GoldfishLiberty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vonias Leenock. Without a massive pronunciation on the nock part.

13:55 combine with? :))

Abbasid feels kinda similar to Zerg too. Source: I'm Abbasid and Zerg-player :D. Lead in economy, scout and counter what the enemy has and overwhelm him.

@KreaSHeR

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh, current abbasid gameplay is nothing like you said. Just build mass mangonels + spearman like braindead. You are not lead in eco unless you build 2 more tc which is really hard if you not playing at a big map.

@sanethoughtspreader

2 жыл бұрын

I was about surprised to hear Chinese were the Zerg. I found them thematically at least Protoss like. I played Zerg and I love Mongols and Abbasid. Mongols though I guess, dare I say it, might be Terran lol.

Hi im a low rank player who struggles vs people who tutle with HRE what is a good tactic?

@rickf6375

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on your civ and the map but early pressure and denying relics is what I'd instinctively do

Hera could've trashed him when he had 20 villagers repairing that castle. One push with lancers.

HERA had soo much stone, form memory if you build the Monastery and research a tech that allows it to act like an Ovoo (IV age) then you can make many Monastaries and x2 build your amy, basically many Ovoos

Man has Hera ever won a game?

As a low level HRE main I don't quite understand why pros don't go for more m@a or landsknecht plays.. Especially against mass archers man at arms do really good.. What am I missing?

@andreidraguloiu2587

2 жыл бұрын

they are slow and from archers the opponent can just swap to crossbows and they melt MAA but the main problem is that they are slow... im sititn at 1400 elo atm.. and when im playing hre i mostly go mass elite knights with siege and handcannons.. dno.. maa are wierd to use.. they also bloob up and mangonels just take them down

@PolarMuttaqin

2 жыл бұрын

I mean he originally used crossbows to fight mangudai since it doesn't cost wood and he need them for siege MAA is good for spam if you high on food but they aren't the brightest when mangonel come in

@nocil134

2 жыл бұрын

Early game is mostly horseman raids and anti-horseman defences with their APM. Since they can easily micro the horseman out an MAA fight, MAA can't catch them. In late game MAA only serves as a meat shield, where a knight works both as a meat shield and can also do damage. Against mass archers you would want to go siege rather than MAA. Also, the current meta relies on professional scout with mass scout into fast imperial, and the only counter to mass scout is horseman/knight, which a reasonable player will do. You can't really defend the scout with spears or MAA, so you will have to go horseman too. Just my salt

@saraathena

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreidraguloiu2587 gow do you get elo? I thought that ranked games are disable.

@rickf6375

2 жыл бұрын

@@saraathena Quick games have a rank

oh my lord, are you kidding me? Mongols get 13 range springalds too? i swear, the more i learn about that civ, it feels like they get everyone's tricks

They're SUPOSSED to be underpowered at this time..... But I got my trick

Mongols is not the best pick for this map. I played 3-4 match with mongols on this map and it was really hard. The base spawn is far away from enemy and they can easily go with their eco boom while your base constantly open for raids.

Lost so many traders to just a handful of cavalry. If only he didn't have a moral objection to spearmen...

12:28 It's not true

Where's the Kurultai

Hera is a very reactive player like zerg.

Mongolian language and Chinese are totally different. Rather it is same language family with Korean.

@Toonrick12

2 жыл бұрын

It is? Thought it was closer to Turkish or Finnish.

@user-ij4nc5hn2r

2 жыл бұрын

@@Toonrick12 search Altaic languages

u said archer does 10 dmg on crossbow. actually it was 18, because it does +8 on light infantry

@ChefLeandroTV

2 жыл бұрын

actually 16, 10+8-2

@PolarMuttaqin

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

@PolarMuttaqin

2 жыл бұрын

Bonus damage against light "melee" infantry

@michaeljordan5905

2 жыл бұрын

noob comment

indeed roman and indeed and empire?? hahahahha what?

Lol

Man i really really love your content, big fan, but for the love of god and all his angels, please look up how to pronounce Landsknecht/ Landsknechte. As a native german i feel something die inside me everytime i hear you say Lahndtschkenägt. No ill feelings friend.

Everyone saying Mongol is top 1 race. For that i have to say i see them lose a lot

First

nice videos but u talk too much for me