Me:Im going on a healthy diet Me after 3 Seconds of Diet: 5:19

@thenoonegamer2678

3 жыл бұрын

Underated comment

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

@@thenoonegamer2678 Not anymore: I pinned this comment :D

@alokinrainborn

3 жыл бұрын

😆

@shivbaba2672

2 жыл бұрын

First Africa has to revolt against Christianity and Islam because that was foreign to Africa and import Hinduism and Buddhism from India once you become spiritual you will be liberated from the foreign mind set. Even India is suffering from this similar situation but now you see Indian politics is changing and they want to elect Hindu leaders and become more Hindu and it took 78 years but it is happening in India. You have to study Sikh and Hindu history how they fought against foreign invasion for 1000 years with more than 10 thousand battles . Don't just import European democracy make your own democracy that fit for your culture. Stop taking funds from Europe and missionaries for feeding poor. It is better to die than being a beggar. You have land and now farming is modernized and food will not be an issue in the near future.

@mirinah4719

2 жыл бұрын

@@shivbaba2672 hell no. All religions are trash

france still keeps its hold over the former french colonies through the CFA franc, they even hold half their foreign currency reserves

@timvanrijn8239

3 жыл бұрын

True thou that fall more inline with a sphere of influwence then a exual colony. Thou the sentiment is accurate

@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33

3 жыл бұрын

and south africa is still colonising namibia using the south african rand or maybe using a more stable currency isn't a proof of evil imperialism?

@d.a.5788

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33 maybe holding half a nations foreign reserves is. And then deciding to loan their own money back to them. Legit just cherry picked and ignored the rest.

@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33

3 жыл бұрын

@@d.a.5788 this is an agreement, if they do not want the drawback that come with the benefit then they can leave anytime they want, and in fact, half of the country are leaving right now

@definetlycringe5379

3 жыл бұрын

Algeria isn't in cfa

For a country like France that defines it's history for the French revolution, freedom, democracy and all that, they're awfully terrible at sharing that sentiment to their colonies.

@listenmullahsb

3 жыл бұрын

They benefit to this day from their slavery past yet hate blacks & arabs...

@Flo-gb1fk

3 жыл бұрын

@@listenmullahsb what

@Banom7a

3 жыл бұрын

it still is the case with their modern colony (i.e: french guiana)

@rubengargano3369

3 жыл бұрын

Did ever cross your mind that all those benevolent words are just hypocritical propaganda bullshit? We're in 2021 and with all that's happening we're looking at democracy 's very face.

@pecadodeorgullo5963

3 жыл бұрын

@@Banom7a That's not a colony though since all colonies that chose to remain with their coloniser were changed to overseas territories and were given citizenship equal to that of the people on the mainland.

Imagine being an African colony and spending you whole existence trying to fight for your independence. And then Egypt just sorta gets it one day outta nowhere. 👀

@khaledaldalabih5530

3 жыл бұрын

One of the big differences is that Egypt was always a country, and at times a super power in the ancient world under the pharaohs, Egypt was never a group of tribes living on vast areas, Egypt was a country built around the Nile with huge population with an identity, same thing for Ethiopia with a less degree. people mix North Africa with the rest of Africa, North Africa had been always countries or part of great empires and kingdoms, from the Pharaohs in Egypt, Carthage in Tunis, part of the Roman empire and then Part the Umayyads and then the Moorish kingdoms and ending being part of the Ottoman empire for more than 350 years. at the same time the rest of Africa had a hard time creating any kingdoms that was worth the attention of any Islamic or Christian empire of that time, that's why a lot of Africa was pagan and had no major religion

@thedevine7963

3 жыл бұрын

@@khaledaldalabih5530 we were not pagan. We don't believe in organised religions.

@crazeelazee7524

3 жыл бұрын

Still doesn't come close to Singapore, which gained independence against its will.

@rageraptor7127

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazeelazee7524 👀

@sohniya7681

3 жыл бұрын

@@khaledaldalabih5530 well, it isn’t doing well now though. With all it’s history it should be a first world.

Leopold killed ALMOST 3 times as many people as Hitler killed in WW2.

@jejehdh

3 жыл бұрын

Both were horrible fart brains.

@DawitWondim

3 жыл бұрын

@@jejehdh That is true! They both were bad. Not trying to say one was worse than the other. Just find it sad that everyone can remember Hitler, but not too many people are even aware of Leopold.

@jamesneedham6265

3 жыл бұрын

That's not actually true as estimates are around 1- 15 million with most figures around ten which while utterly appalling actually is about the same as Hitler. Amazingly both Stalin and Mao killed even more of their own people with the same mixed methods of brutality and utter incompetence that Leopold employed in the Congo. I think the moral difference is the number of they intended to kill as Leopold, Stalin and Mao while they didn't care how many people died the number of people they intentionally killed as part of a deliberate genocide is smaller where as Hitler killed the Jew, gypsys and other minorities with no other motive beyond a deliberate genocide. Therefore most of Hitlers victims where killed on his direct orders and the victims of the other because of the they didn't care how many people died to achieve a political or finical aim. Its a small difference, the difference between someone who shoots someone dead during a bank robbery and one where someone commits murder because they like killing, but an important one.

@jejehdh

3 жыл бұрын

I understand

@GizmoFromPizmo

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it ironic that Belgium is the home of the vampire capital of the European Union?

I'm Nigerian and you really hit the nail on the head on how neo colonialism still continues in Nigeria till today

@alexanderblack389

3 жыл бұрын

Your minds are actually colonize too.

@daggerdan12

3 жыл бұрын

@@roadtonever please elaborate

@daggerdan12

3 жыл бұрын

@@roadtonever what do you mean by don't look back further than colonial times

@daggerdan12

3 жыл бұрын

@@roadtonever Doesn't really make sense to me, sorry. I suppose it probably sounded clever in your head.

@daggerdan12

3 жыл бұрын

@@roadtonever Well of course, it's the cradle of humanity and peoples there have had longer to diversify than anyone else. Still don't see what that has to do with neo colonialism.

Portugal: Angola é Nossa Cuba: Not so fast

@nirbhaisinghkooner2831

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@neutralfellow9736

3 жыл бұрын

The Portuguese still won the war, Angola, Cuba and allies lost. The world forced Portugal to abandon Angola diplomatically.

@clintonrodrigues4776

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@Joaocruz30

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't the world. But the "revolução de abril" ou "revolução dos cravos" do your home work first. Merry Christmas and a healthy new year! peace

@lionjbvida

3 жыл бұрын

Kl

Love this feeling of studying history and realizing why things are the way they are today

@kieranrollinson8750

Жыл бұрын

THE WAY THE VIDEO AUTHOR PHRASES """"A BUNCH OF WHITE DUDES TELLING AFRICANS WHAT TO DO"""" ONLY SHOWS THAT THE VIDEO AUTHOR IS A BIGOTED ILLOGICAL, WHO KNOWS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT BASIC GOVERNANCE AND NATIONAL FINANCE ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D ALSO, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! A BUNCH OF HIGHLY EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO GOVERN AND CRATE LAWS AND ADMINISTER FINANCES OVER THE ECONOMY, IN WHICHM SUCH EXPERTISE, IS EXCLUSIVELY HELD BY WHITE PEOPLE AT THE TIME, IS EXACTLY WHAT THE AFRICAN COLONIES NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

@jasonx1174

6 ай бұрын

It's like putting together a giant puzzle piece or re reading a book for details you missed.

@Respectyourlegacybooks

6 ай бұрын

Indeed and there are so many pieces to put together

@AntonioKatan

5 ай бұрын

This video fudges loads of details. Like saying that the Portuguese invented apartheid when it’s a boer word or not going over what happened in Rhodesia in which a white government seceded from the UK to avoid giving rights to black people. The Congo isn’t navigable from the sea due to the falls near it’s mouth and Europeans couldn’t invade the interior until the 19th century because Europeans couldn’t stand African diseases and medicine needed to step up. It’s mostly right on the larger picture but the details are woefully distorted.

@Layde36

2 ай бұрын

Yet westerners do nothing about it cause they are too busy enjoying cheap slave labour products from third world countries and blood oil from war torn nations

My grandfather and grandmother were actually martyrs in the Algerian war of Independence! My grandpa sadly passed away in a car accident years after Independence and I never got to meet him since I still wasn't born, but my grandmother is doing good these days!

@screamingseal4805

Жыл бұрын

Don’t you have to die to be a marty?

My grandfather was one of the first government workers in Northern Nigeria, they took them all out of school in like grade 9 and put them in an intense 1 year training program and sent them into the work force for a few years as clerks and apprentices for a few years, then sent them to an accelerated post secondary program, then back into the workforce. They essentially had to build and entire public work service in a few years. It's amazing how they pulled it off

@mr.takethingstooseriously

3 жыл бұрын

For the north. That shit turned to nepotism fast.

@khalilibrahimi3807

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 And when the people rise up guess who come to help the corrupt to protect their interest and offshore companies? never tell half a story.

@radioactivedetective6876

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 It isn't really the same though. The socio-political situation in the Indian subcontinent when the Europeans came in to colonise was very different from the condition in several African regions during the scramble for Africa. Also, the entire Indian subcontinent was under the British, hence had a homogeneous system, and there were fewer partitions during decolonisation. The one partition still causes bloodshed. Also, the British really relied on the Indians for the bureaucracy in the Raj, so that system was set up by the time we got independence. And the entire freedom struggle was stretched across a century, over multiple generations, each better prepared to handle administration. That is very very different from a country with 30 graduates at independence.

@mr.takethingstooseriously

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 africa is doing great things. Nigeria will be in the top 5 most powerful countries in the world by the end of this century and will be in top ten in the next 30 years. You are acting like alot of african countries aren't making large strides. This arrogance and ignorance is why china took the united states spot. In the 70s and 80s china was a shot hole and now the are the shiters. Nigeria's corruption has decreased so much in the last 20 years and will continue to decrease over the next 30.

@mr.takethingstooseriously

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 did you just say africas performance has nothing to do with colonialism? You should really do some basic research.

The more African people get the right education, the better we get to understand certain things. Little by little out paradigm is shifting. Slowly we will get there. I hope it happens in my lifetime.

@CivilizedWasteland

3 жыл бұрын

They just move to Europe or richer countries, now chinese are moving in to fill the vacancies probably not gonna happen in our lifetime

@historypaul1657

3 жыл бұрын

You can do it!

@valletas

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe not in your life time but you can help prepare the soil for the next generation

@traviscolkitt4955

3 жыл бұрын

@@valletas China: we are going to help them. we need new slave labor. I mean employees!!!

@KevEonTHINKS

3 жыл бұрын

The 1st College was created in Africa!!! The people have loads in knowledge in a different way.

Brilliantly made video, never learned this much in school, thanks for making and sharing

i am an african, i don't know, if you are african or not, but you know very well the history of Africa, that of colonization, Algeria and Guinea are two countries that never give up, there are many resistant countries, but these two are exceptional, you know that africa has three histories before colonization, time of colonization and after colonization.

@evilchaperone

3 жыл бұрын

The 4th Africa will be the debt trap of China.

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

Very complex histories too and like the European to often a bloody one . I

@juliandowen1621

2 жыл бұрын

You missed out eight hundred years colonization of Europe (Iberian Peninsula) by Africans. Africans developed Spain and Portugal into world powers. Guess Africans should've kept away from the peaceful Iberian Peninsula and the world today would be a different place.

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the small state Liberia . Descendants of the transatlantic slaves returning to Africa . Sad fact they used the native people as slaves .

@evilchaperone

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliandowen1621 can't have facts getting in the way of the narrative.

*In the Berlin conference: All colonial powers are invited, including Belguim.. *Sad Dutch Noises*

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting point you bring up, actually. I did some research and the reason the Netherlands wasn't invited to the Berlin conference (while countries such as Austria-Hungary were) was because "The Netherlands were, as far as the colonies were concerned, a 'saturated' power where - at least before 1900 - the will to operate in an imperialist way was missing." source: www.jstor.org/stable/181300?seq=1

@drum4416

3 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryScope ok thx for the respond : )

@timvanrijn8239

3 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryScope also it is proable if the dutch take any stance, it be to claim protectorates over boer states. Wich the british will take offence to. Bismarck proable knew that.

@DeFraans

3 жыл бұрын

@@timvanrijn8239 proable = probably

@timvanrijn8239

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeFraans sure

Belgian King: You should be thankful for everything we’ve done for you! Congolese: Ah yes, *H A N D S*

@AlteryxGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 Who do you think created the system of brutality there? It’s literally explained in this video that yes, the Belgians may not have explicitly been the ones to do that, however they are still responsible for it happening in the first place. It’s like saying Al Capone murdered people, he himself often did not but he most definitely ordered it to happen. Thus he is responsible. Think before you criticize

@khalilibrahimi3807

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 you sir are a hypocrite. And not only hands but nosestoo. Imagine living without a nose

@MDMAx

3 жыл бұрын

*Leopold the 2nd* : Raise your hands if you want independence! Noone? That settles it.

@whoisjoe5610

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyzaero9656 Ah yes, because when someone holds a gun to your head and tells you hand over your wallet, you are willingly doing it.

@E4439Qv5

3 жыл бұрын

@@whoisjoe5610 gun or no gun, you can have my wallet, sir. ❤️

My grandfather and his older brother fought for independence from France. Until their own deaths in 2011 and 2013 they were traumatized and they have told us very gruesome stories what they have seen.

@Cbreezy510

3 жыл бұрын

Both awesome and sad at the same time. What country?

@brendanrodgers9753

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cbreezy510 Sweden

@maarten9272

3 жыл бұрын

@@brendanrodgers9753 Sweden wasn't a part of France.

@harrypotterhatesohio5996

Жыл бұрын

Bernadotte

I went through your back log of videos and to be completely honest, im glad you shifted to your own art style. Your modern videos look so much better.

i actually have no idea why you only have 160k subscribers, with all this effort you deserve way more

@niles1492

3 жыл бұрын

I mean 160k is alot!!! They deserve it

@r.9158

3 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up every video you watch and help him out. This channel is definitely going to explode soon.

@morganfreaman

3 жыл бұрын

160k more like 161k

@ethiobuzzfeed

3 жыл бұрын

Because he fuckup history .Ethiopia is Africa's Oldest Independent Country and never been colonized.

@steviegoodgravy8624

3 жыл бұрын

Dude’s overall outlook is pretty one-sided.. colonization brought Africa into the 19th century.. no wheel, no modern medicine, ridiculously high infant mortality.. it wasn’t all like Leopold in the Congo

History Scope: *THIS TIME FOR AFRICA*

@drum4416

3 жыл бұрын

*2010 Flashbacks

@itsblitz4437

3 жыл бұрын

@@drum4416 Arab Spring?

@accent1666

3 жыл бұрын

You’re everywhere

@alexanderlittle9786

3 жыл бұрын

Whoopdie doo!

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

You know you've made it on KZread once Avery the Cuban-American comments on your video.

This is sooo beautiful 🥺🥺 Well explained I learned a lot! Im loving your videos so much. I'm binge watching right now!

Thank You. I was curious. Thanks for summing it all up.

Leopold II in the Congo "anyone who wants to be independent raise your hands" Congo's citizens: "......"

@deepstariaenigmatica2601

3 жыл бұрын

that's dark lmao

@momo-cchi5978

3 жыл бұрын

⚰⚰⚰

@leonardoleo5740

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@dimitarlazarov8815

3 жыл бұрын

Humour so dark it stole my bike.

@joemamaobama6863

3 жыл бұрын

he do be lending a hand tho

This is the most underrated history channel on youtube by far! I love all of your content and the amount of research put into every aspect of your videos. Thank you for all of the great content!

@YTho-ev1ej

3 жыл бұрын

@T teg Egg yeah, the vast majority of white people I meet are really good people

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

And thank YOU for the great comment!

@helderteixeira6742

3 жыл бұрын

*Portugal committed the Wiriyamu, Mozambique Genocide in modern times (1972) right under the United Nations noses and NOTHING was done! Why is that??*

@kieranrollinson8750

Жыл бұрын

THE WAY THE VIDEO AUTHOR PHRASES """"A BUNCH OF WHITE DUDES TELLING AFRICANS WHAT TO DO"""" ONLY SHOWS THAT THE VIDEO AUTHOR IS A BIGOTED ILLOGICAL, WHO KNOWS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT BASIC GOVERNANCE AND NATIONAL FINANCE ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D ALSO, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! A BUNCH OF HIGHLY EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO GOVERN AND CRATE LAWS AND ADMINISTER FINANCES OVER THE ECONOMY, IN WHICHM SUCH EXPERTISE, IS EXCLUSIVELY HELD BY WHITE PEOPLE AT THE TIME, IS EXACTLY WHAT THE AFRICAN COLONIES NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

@Raveded

8 ай бұрын

​@@helderteixeira6742They forgor 💀

This is a well-structured video! this should have more views. Thanks for the post and resources added to the video for further reading.

This is an excellent peice of research, a lot of young people can learn so much about the mother land, thank you for this, keep up the excellent work.

This video was very well made and deserve way more attention. Not just for how bloody good this video was, but how important this history is not just for Africans like me, but for everyone to learn and understand. We cannot repeat this nor forget it

@hansonlee5847

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who enjoys modern European history, I'm glad that I learned about the African side as well because we don't learn much about this in schools. Unfortunately, it seems Africa can never catch a break and might again be in a situation where superpowers (EU/USA and China) will start competing for their resources.... Hope Africa will have its time to shine someday and be free from political squabbling!

@annnee6818

Жыл бұрын

@@hansonlee5847 In fairness NO country is free from political squabbling. So political squabbling appears to be inherent in the hunan condition.

@kieranrollinson8750

Жыл бұрын

THE WAY THE VIDEO AUTHOR PHRASES """"A BUNCH OF WHITE DUDES TELLING AFRICANS WHAT TO DO"""" ONLY SHOWS THAT THE VIDEO AUTHOR IS A BIGOTED ILLOGICAL, WHO KNOWS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT BASIC GOVERNANCE AND NATIONAL FINANCE ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D ALSO, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! A BUNCH OF HIGHLY EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO GOVERN AND CRATE LAWS AND ADMINISTER FINANCES OVER THE ECONOMY, IN WHICHM SUCH EXPERTISE, IS EXCLUSIVELY HELD BY WHITE PEOPLE AT THE TIME, IS EXACTLY WHAT THE AFRICAN COLONIES NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

i didn't even notice the video was 43 minutes long until it ended and i exited full screen. Very well done and written! Thank you for this beautifully informative video

@teafallbliss3409

Жыл бұрын

Beautifully? This makes me disgusted in your face and so proud Ethiopia was never a colonial win, monsters.

This is very informative and detailed. Thank you very much for sharing.

@carlajones8697

3 жыл бұрын

Why did you not discuss chattel slavery in this video?

I appreciate the work you put into these projects/videos. Thank you for this channel.

Native Africans: we want freedom! Various dictators civil wars and genocides: well yes but actually *no*

@badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

3 жыл бұрын

All of that comes from the resulting power vacuum. Not to mention competition to control resources to meet the West's ever increasing demand, all systems that are inherited from political and economic infrastructure that was built primarily to export and supply global networks but not enrich the locals. Let's also not forget that while in Europe, Germans have Germany, Portugal has the Portuguese, France has the French etc., but in Africa everyone is grouped into arbitrary territories drawn for them by foreign interests, yet are still binding to globalisation as well as international relations and capital. So of course there'll be infighting. The instability of which is in the interest of western powers like the US, because it means that their resources won't be nationalised, and it'll be easier to get them for cheap.

@johnfisher1006

3 жыл бұрын

@@badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348 look you have a point but at the same if we didn't have the large amount of corrupt leaders a lot of our problems wouldn't exist in Africa

@badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnfisher1006 Absolutely agree, and we have to own that corruption, but likewise the genealogy thereof, if we are to engage with the complete reality of the matter.

@second2none914

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnfisher1006 Corruption isn’t unique to Africa. There are dozens of countries in Africa comparable to corruption to China, Russia, Brazil, India and various European countries. If corruption is the deciding factor in African poverty why is South Africa (the least corrupt county in BRICS) also the poorest? Why is Russia more corrupt than Ghana, Senegal, South Africa, etc but also infinitely richer than them? Overall corruption in Africa is comparable to corruption outside Africa & Most countries in Africa have never fought a war or had a genocide.

@johnfisher1006

3 жыл бұрын

@@second2none914 corruption is not created equally. The issue of corruption comes down to how much it affects the people of the country. First world corruption doesn't lead to mass level starvation of its people and very high unemployment rate so I dont understand how you can say that corruption is equal around the world. I am Nigerian and we literally have billions of dollars disappearing from the reserve with no one accountable. Obviously there are lots of third world countries outside Africa that are suffering due to their leaders so suffering isn't just unique to some African countries. And I am sorry...did you just say majority of the African countries haven't fought with each other?

Great video, thanks a lot. Just a note. The independence of South Africa in 1910 was not an independence to the native people. It was just a union after the Anglo-Boer war which was a war between the British and Boers (Dutch). They occupied and ruled different parts of the country. Only in 1961 Queen Elizabeth II ceased to be the Queen of South Africa. The native people continued to be under the rule of the Europeans who had naturalised their inhabitants in South Africa. The system of apartheid was even stronger from 1948 after the National Party of the Boers took over. South Africa got her independence in 1994. What that independence mean today is a discussion for another day.

@barryirlandi4217

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of internal colonialism

@rubenstrydom5367

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you , atleast its not just me who thought that was a lie

@helderteixeira6742

3 жыл бұрын

*Portugal committed the Wiriyamu, Mozambique Genocide in modern times (1972) right under the United Nations noses and NOTHING was done! Why is that??*

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

Native South Africans are called KOH'SAN . The Bantu are black migrants from central Africa . The Boers lived from the 16 hunderds in these regions, white migrants from the lowlands , Seven provinciën . Apartheid or cultural genocide in equality , there are not more flavors to chose from. The great Apartheid you find in India , 6000 years of cast system and the non-humans the Paria's .

@bongsmasuku

2 жыл бұрын

@@barta9342 yes, I don't blame you for your answer. That's the history you were taught. It was meant to to make the Black Africans look like they only arrived after the Boers in South Africa. And that is a false teaching. Do your research properly. Don't just take things on a face value. Research on the kings of the south, the Vendas, the Shonas, Mapungubwe, great Zimbabwe. If you so wish I can give you links of documentaries that were done by non Africans.

"Set up in the most illogical way" It's only illogical if you intend to foster a sustainable political system where people can cooperate and govern themselves. That was clearly never the intent colonial powers had for these areas. The problems of Africa aren't accidents or Europeans just being dumb or shortsighted. We should remember these problems were and are intentional. They are the result of the intentions of the old colonial powers being misaligned with the general wellbeing and prosperity of the region and people who lived in the region.

@Biafranbushboy

Жыл бұрын

Ding ding ding correct, African nations states are dysfunctional because it was always intended to be that way

Well written and narrated, I would like to add that the decolonization of African did indeed give the people political independence but the European colonizers laid down conditions that will benefit them financially. The Europeans demanded that their mining companies will remain in these countries and that they will export the menerals as raw materials with minimum text that is not regulated on quality or quantity. Up to this day the African countries still do not own most of their mineral reserves and people are only promised jobs in return because corruption in Africa is sponsored by the Europeans

@2regarded

Жыл бұрын

Except now the countries that rob them don't have to maintain civilization in these areas... They can't be expected to do it themselves if they don't control their resources. Some of these places would probably be better off as colonies than the fake democracy they were given

Quick Note: Nations that were protectorates and had few settlers and mostly were ruled indirectly gained independence peacefully Nigeria, Ghana, all of French West and Central Africa except for Algeria, Egypt, Sudan etc. On the other hand, those that had large European populations and were settler colonies had to fight for independence. Algeria, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Angola, Mozambique are examples. Exceptions are Zambia and the DRC which had large European populations but avoided wars of independence, largely because both nations European populations were mine workers and administrators, rather than being land owners as was the case in the other nations highlighted.

@Antarius1999

3 жыл бұрын

Algeria was a colony, not a protectorate.

@geraldmaxwell3277

3 жыл бұрын

@@Antarius1999 I highlighted that . In case you did not read clearly, Algeria, Kenya, Zimbabwe ,Mozambique and Angola are under "settler colonies"

@geraldmaxwell3277

3 жыл бұрын

@@knockhello2604 Yes, they fought for independence because the Algerian War of Independence ,the Kenyan Mau Mau etc forced the settlers to realize that they were never going to control those nations forever as they wished and thus paved way for the pathways to independence.

@helderteixeira6742

3 жыл бұрын

*Portugal committed the Wiriyamu, Mozambique Genocide in modern times (1972) right under the United Nations noses and NOTHING was done! Why is that??*

@luisgoncalosilva6194

2 жыл бұрын

@@helderteixeira6742 OK you are just a guy copy and pasted the same comment in every comment there is, just pathetic to be honest. You are just trying to spread hate in internet like there is enough already without people like you. Just toxic and a deplorable action from you.

i thought france still controlled most of its ex colonies by controlling their monetery system.

@swaggery

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I heard too. Colonization never ended with France, they just practice a more covert system now.

@MeidoInHebun

3 жыл бұрын

​@@swaggery Covert?, they keep sending their military over there every few years.

@thelakeman2538

3 жыл бұрын

that's just one part of their control over their former colonies, look up France-Afrique.

@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33

3 жыл бұрын

france doesn't control any african country, there's a reason why noone call these countries puppet state, but france does have a big influence on these country, the cfa being an example of french influence, and they will fight against anything that plan getting rid of this influence(recent exemple are france being so involved in the fight against ai quaida in mali and france intervention in libya(note:libya was a dictatorship with racial segregation and slavery)) but france's influence isn't some kind of curse (exept during the election when you're in the opposition), taking the exemple of the cfa again, there are multiple instance of country using a more stable currency(such as djibouti with the us dollar and namibia with the south african rand) , but france, having multiple deal like these, end up with a great influence which help them for negotiations and other things (hopefully this was clear and not useless) edit: also as I've been pointed out this wasn't always the case and france used to fund coup in africa to keep the countries on her side, though this era is over now

@thelakeman2538

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxsupersayen34xxnoe33 ah yes the man who was a close friend of Mandela and opposed Apartheid and funded the ANC and other pan-African movements had somehow enforced racial segregation in his country while also promoting Pan-African unity and literally wanting a United States of Africa, what can be said without evidence can be dismissed without one. Though the stability of the CFA franc is a genuine point in support of the French sphere. But you forgot to mention that also means giving up a lot of fiscal and monetary policy in hands of an institution the country cannot control or have a say in since the CFA franc is tied with the Euro, that is on top of the fact that France extracts more money from the West and Central African countries than they get in benefit, and holds control over the reserves of these countries. Speaking of dictatorships France kept oligarchs favourable to them in power through bribes, economic aid and even military intervention to keep dictators in power. Not to mention French corporations which benefited from such agreements and money meant for aid in Africa and from the French corporations magically ending up in coffers of French political parties.

This was a great video overall, my only issue with it being it failed to mention the Rhodesian Bush war and Apartheid South Africa

No mention of the Rhodesian Bush War?

Extremely informative, I learned a lot from this one! Great video and thanks for all your hard work in making it, can't wait for more!

So refreshing to see these researched and smoothly-animated vids popping into the feed Keep it up man!

Excellent video 👏👏 Keep up the good work my friend.

14:22 the french didn't put the sultan on the throne, they just supported him over his brothers because they though he was easier to deal with. The protectorate over the kingdom of Morocco was an agreement signed by a treacherous king who sought french support against the revolting Berber population.

43 minutes of amazing content. Thank you so much for this video : )

Commenting for engagement. Love how thorough your videos are, your efforts show.

my grandma was born in morocco but is also french, that always confused me and I never got more explanation. she had to leave the country and move to france. now I know why. thank you!

This video was really helpful thank you for your hard work. I laughed when you said Nigeria has more ethnic groups than Europe, when you think about how the EU gets along you can only shudder at the amount of conflict that occurs between differ ethnic groups. I find it beautiful that such a diverse group of people can be found in such a comparatively small space, but on the other hand that likely makes nation building so difficult. Here I was thinking Sudan is too ethnically diverse to weld into a nation. Then again, it's just another legacy of colonialism, the borders of African nations didn't really form according to the ethnic groups of the lands, but really what was convinent for colonisers, which just lead to a mess after decolonisation, I know Sudan has border disputes now, based on conflict on redrawn borders by the British and Egyptian occupying governments. Federalism makes sense to a degree, but even then it's so hard to wield a state that is just one of opposing micronations, but then if they were to break into micronations, it would be even easier for foreign powers and regional conflicts to occur.

As a African American born and raised in Central Florida the older I get the more I realize how little I know and understand about why the injustices of the past refuse to go away. This video struck a cord with me I didn't expect.

@louvendran7273

3 жыл бұрын

@Chad Neal Colonisation was a terrible evil. It continues to this day by the US in Puerto Rico and other US possessions and China enforcing itself globally. Moreover Africa has been plagued by corruption and tyrannical governments no different from its colonial masters. The only exception being Botswana.

@Extreamkarioke

3 жыл бұрын

@@louvendran7273 The ongoing corruption in some government agencies and some private businesses is very upsetting. The more you look into the history of how the West got so rich the more you realize it was largely a ponzi scheme built on exploitation. However maybe as humans we could all take more lessons from what the US historically has done right, if mostly only for white men, and what China is doing right by it's growing middle and upper class.

@Sceptonic

3 жыл бұрын

@@louvendran7273 Noyone is stopping Puerto Rico from becoming independent. Thing is, Puerto Rico benefits more by staying as a territory of the US because they get US aid and don't have to pay taxes

Portuguese here! My mom was born in Angola and my grandparents lived there and from what they tell me in Portugal life was so bad (due to the dictatorship) that people would live better in Africa instead of Portugal. Things like Coca-Cola, Seven Up and things like that were only available in the colonies.

@antoninus7600

Ай бұрын

How's Portugal today?

@andrecarvalho1339

Ай бұрын

@@antoninus7600 Much better thenks to the EU and several reforms in the 80’s and 90’s but we keep lagging behind western Europe and Eastern Europe has caught up to us. We are country with Romanian wages but good weather

My grandfather fought in the Portuguese Colonial wars in Mozambique and guinea-bissau, he has a scar in his leg from a shot. Truly horrible what happened, the government at the time was really awful, at least the former colonies got their independence eventually. Still took to long tho. Love from Portugal

@kieranrollinson8750

Жыл бұрын

THE WAY THE VIDEO AUTHOR PHRASES """"A BUNCH OF WHITE DUDES TELLING AFRICANS WHAT TO DO"""" ONLY SHOWS THAT THE VIDEO AUTHOR IS A BIGOTED ILLOGICAL, WHO KNOWS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT BASIC GOVERNANCE AND NATIONAL FINANCE ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D ALSO, YES!!!!!!!!!!!! A BUNCH OF HIGHLY EDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO GOVERN AND CRATE LAWS AND ADMINISTER FINANCES OVER THE ECONOMY, IN WHICHM SUCH EXPERTISE, IS EXCLUSIVELY HELD BY WHITE PEOPLE AT THE TIME, IS EXACTLY WHAT THE AFRICAN COLONIES NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

@hotman_pt_

4 ай бұрын

Bet they are doing so good

5:20 Reminds me of Chocolate with Nuts from Spongebob.

@Angrade

3 жыл бұрын

Did you say, chocolate?

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

CHOCOLAAAAAAAATE!!!!!!

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

That's actually one of my favourite episodes. Patrick saying 'I love you' is the second funniest moment in all of Spongebob

I love whenever an episode of yours gets posted. Also I knew about Leopold II and the Congo but damn I didn't know about that, breaks my heart :(.

@HistoryScope

3 жыл бұрын

I also thought I knew about the stuff that went on there... but then I read first-hand accounts and the policy leading to the brutality and it just boggles my mind how anyone could set up such a cruel system of 'governance'.

@sketchiefello9002

3 жыл бұрын

@T teg Egg non-sequitur

@frankbixler5076

3 жыл бұрын

You should read "heart of darkness" by joseph conrad. Great book about the belgian congo.

@hannahbarbara6361

3 жыл бұрын

@T teg Egg war implies a counterpart who can fight back. A raid, incursion, invasion, military aggression and conquest is what happens all over africa. Kingdoms, tribes and people, and entire civilizations trampled or wiped out.

I like how you picked a photo of the statue after it was vandalized in 28:28 lmao

@sweettea3879

3 жыл бұрын

As it should✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼

This is beyond Brilliant, encapsulated with mastery

Great video on a subject that is far too often overlooked.

I have been looking forward to this.

Great video, just to add Eritrea got its independence in 1991, it was federated with Ethiopia in 1950 and annexed in 1960 which led to 30 years war for independence

A very informative and important video. Thank you.

I appreciate you making these videos! Thanks!

5:20 Chocolate? Did you say chocolate? Chocolate...chocolate...CHOCOLATE! CHOCOLATE! CHOCOLATTTTTTTEEE

8:07 Eritrea was given to Ethiopia against the will of the eritrean people , who wanted independence, because they never were part of Ethiopia. That caused a 30 year independence war which Eritrea won and gained independence. That's really important I think because the eritrean people were never asked what they want but the decisions came from Europe and Ethiopia. And I think you should mention that because at the end of the video, Eritrea was still part of Ethiopia in the map what implies that Eritrea is part of Ethiopia which is untrue.

Great video!! P-s Seychelles is pronounced say-shells 39:00 And great Borg reference.

Am watching this on Christmas Day 2020. My Christmas present to a number of friends and acquaintances will be sending History Scope documentaries by email or passing verbal recommendations these are must-see videos. North American education systems have bee dumbed down for far too long.

Thank you for another great piece of work. It’s for creators like you that I don’t click ”Skip this ad”. Merry Christmas!

This was an informative video, great job.

This is one of the most interesting documentaries I’ve ever watched

Great as always, love your content!

Wow, another BIG episode! Thanks for your research.

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

We can call this: Africa for the Africans politics . Ultra nationalistic , racists sometimes marxistic or Jihadistic violent politic movements . Using violence for power over the different regions sometimes using methods of genocide . It explains better the ongoing violence after in dependency in Africa between the warlords who are ruling . The UN perspective Durban Pact 2001 UN : the European perpetrators and the non-European victims or the whites are to blame . UN politics =international socialism. An attempt to cover up African perpetrators and their victims nowadays and in history ??? The modern UN nations not able or willing to provide human rights or basic needs to many ?? The cause of so many refugees but still part of the General Assembly UN . Remember national socialism ; the Jews were to blame and the consequences. dank voor jouw reportages .

This is really, really well done. I would love to see you summarize the invasion of the Americas, or even just the United States. The Indian Wars are usually just brushed over in history classes.

Watching from USA. Very nice video and very educational. Thank you for the knowledge.

Please do Chinese debt trapping of Africa currently This is amazing work as a south african watching

@TylerSolvestri

3 жыл бұрын

They just put the fishhook, Africans and Westerns open their whole mouth.

@appleslover

3 жыл бұрын

It's a new way of Europeans shifting the blame from themselves to others(china in this case, the Soviet union previously and any industrialised powerhouse in the future, maybe india?). They love to exaggerate and compare it to their misdeeds in the past *and* present. "See! I told you" . Or when confronted with their crimes *"bUt WhAt AbOuT cHiNa?"*

@FatAlan_

3 жыл бұрын

@@appleslover if you think China is any bette then you're wilfully ignorant

@janejan9728

3 жыл бұрын

@@appleslover The soviet union was European....

@appleslover

3 жыл бұрын

@@FatAlan_ yes it IS! speaking from first hand experience, and please don't think that you were any *GOOD*

There’s a Netflix docu-series called” Journey of an African colony “ on Nigeria-British colonial era

@burinvoyager8964

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t find it btw I’m in canada

@con1676

3 жыл бұрын

@@burinvoyager8964 please use vpn to change your location and then you can find it. You can try “Star Vpn “ it is fairly good and free.

@frankbixler5076

3 жыл бұрын

Does it suck like most shows on Netflix?

@Solo-vh9fm

3 жыл бұрын

Which country’s Netflix is it on

@con1676

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankbixler5076 it’s fairly good

I LOVE this video, also. Can you make a video on the pros & cons, shortcomings and successes of the UN? It's a topic I'd like to know a lot more about

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

The role of the UN ,the General Assembly was the force behind the decolonization and the independence movements . Another more realistic perspective , wars for power by nationalistic, racial political movements. It explains better the ongoing atrocities done by Africans and Asians. Mostly ultra nationalistic or marxistic political violent movements even racists sometimes Jihadist of nature. The UN perspective is ;the racists European perpetrators and the non-European victims . It's an attempt to cover up non-European perpetrators and their victims. An Attempt to make the Europeans responsible and accountable for faling modern UN nations. Many not able ore willing to provide human rights or basic needs for many. The source of many refugees

This is one of the best history channels on KZread

This video is great! Entertaining the whole way through, and an amazing amount of info in 45 minutes. Hope it gets the attention on KZread that it deserves!

well done scope, youve done a great job on this video, especially seeing as it only took you a month! keep up wth the good work!

Excellent video, thank you .

Well done that was very thought out with so many colonies turn countries to explain their history one by one marvelously

Africa: China:Ready for round two?

@bprogressive

3 жыл бұрын

let start from the Greece..

@mr.takethingstooseriously

3 жыл бұрын

Most African countries know how china operates. You gotta be dumb or desperate to take chinese help.

@ASMORPHEUS1979

3 жыл бұрын

I wish the Chinese the best of luck. may they finally rid humanity of its last living cousin.

@sc1338

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.takethingstooseriously unfortunately a lot are desperate or naive.

@legendaryunclecabral2522

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.takethingstooseriously or maybe corrupt.

Amazing video! Really enjoyed and appreciate it! However, could you do a video on why UK abolished slavery? Just like African decolonisation is mis phrased I feel like is an occurring pattern

This educational video was obviously created to explain this Decolonization period, and has done an excellent job. Someday I hope to find a documentary similar in quality about the period of time before colonization began, which might shed light on why parts of the globe had civilizations which advanced so much more quickly than others. Some of the earth's land masses had primitive groups of people who appear to have fallen far behind those which had advanced rapidly, yet I do not understand why that is. I am aware that theories exist which relate some of this phenomena to climate, location, diet, natural resources or the evolution of languages. But even these factors cannot explain entirely what gave certain countries or regions such a jump start... leaving others in stagnation. For instance, Africa is blessed with a decent climate, natural resources, pretty easy access to Asia and Europe, and was at or near the beginning of human evolution - yet seems to be untouched by The Industrial Age which swept over Europe, Asia and the Americas. Why?

@brycelambright5116

3 ай бұрын

I think the similar answer is Europe was more developed. The colonization of Africa also took place during the first golden age of global capitalism. We're there were massive increases in trade and lowering tariff barriers. Nations wanted new markets and cheap raw materials. Also when one nation began to colonization Africa there was increasingly presence on other European nations to colonization. Through colonization European nation were about to extract more (value world system theory)

@brycelambright5116

3 ай бұрын

I think it is mainly due to industrialized and a greater need for markets and raw materials. And a large opportunity cost if nations did not grab more territory

@brycelambright5116

3 ай бұрын

I think until later there was little incentive to colonization Africa until much later. Due to the first golden age of global capitalism

Such an amazing video! I can tell that you made a lot of GOOD research! Thanks a lot for making this video. We need more people like you to show the real things that happened on Earth and that are still happening nowadays.

@lorenzobellon8503

7 ай бұрын

You just forgot to say that Gabon was first a Portuguese colony, then French.

This is interesting when you realize China is currently undertaking the "loan money" role Italy & France had with Tunisia, except the Chinese are doing it in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. I wonder what happens when countries in those regions can no longer afford to pay their creditors back?

@mr.takethingstooseriously

3 жыл бұрын

China comes in and takes the things they pay for. Its happened enough times for alot of countries to know this and stand clear. Folks act like most Africans who are in government and bussiness dont have access to the same of not more accurate information than a random guy on youtube. They can figure it out themselves.

@extremosaur

3 жыл бұрын

No need to look far, China leverages those debts for territory, military, and infrastructure assets. That's why they have aquired so many ports.

I recommend "Africa Addio" on youtube, for a better analysis on decolonization

@DOCTORKHANblog

3 жыл бұрын

No it's not. It's a narrow minded shock documentary focusing on mainly the Zanzibar Revolution and pitched by antiblack far right types.

@scottanno8861

3 жыл бұрын

@Am I Disabled? Raw footage of decolonization, plus the fact that the filming team was at the site of many atrocities as they were happening. It's not right wing at all, just old fashioned

@pisceanbeauty2503

Жыл бұрын

Lol @ recommending shock media as education.

African colonization was and is very good civilization and development for all African Countries.

This is a great and informative video, I love the content and I really never new how we were decolonised.

France: "Fine! You can vote to stay in or leave." Africa: "Okay, I wanna leave" France: "Wait, no!"

@inthefade

3 жыл бұрын

*chaos, war, and human rights violations ensue* *edit: not that it was much better before.*

@genieglasslamp5028

3 жыл бұрын

@@inthefade How about you learn some actual African history before you type racist nonsense. I know this might shock you but Africa had multiple complex civilizations before Europeans showed up. In fact some European traders even traded with African civilzations.

@inthefade

3 жыл бұрын

@@genieglasslamp5028 I didn't deny any of that.

@baule4475

3 жыл бұрын

@@genieglasslamp5028 it's not wrong I guess it's basically what happened after what's what I heard from youtube history channels

@ethanvibritannia3993

3 жыл бұрын

@@genieglasslamp5028 You're both right. Before, during and after European colonisation, Africa has suffered from issues of governments abusing human rights, getting into wars internal and external so again, you're both right

I like it when mention about the Congo because my great grandmother Rose from Jamaica who live 102 years old has mention her mother from the Kongo which she means from the old Kongo Kingdom which is located in northern part of Angola, DR Congo, R Congo and Gabon. The people in DR Congo had it rough during Congo genocide by the Belgian colonist

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

Genocides still goes on in Central Africa ,done by Africans . The Belgian colonists were part of the development of the region. The Belgian King was a madman who used the greed of people to motivated them to cut of the hands of their own people or other "tribes" . They lived for ages in structural warfare. His soldiers were many paid African hirelings .. Makes the narrative even worse. The African kings/ warlords ruled feudal , structural warfare and slavery, rituel killings their trade. Perhaps this explains the ongoing atrocities in Central Afrika , not much is changed .

Ghana’s life expectancy is an embarrassment to humankind but, I know our standards in the West are still new even to us, so hopefully they get better.

@helderteixeira6742

3 жыл бұрын

*Portugal committed the Wiriyamu, Mozambique Genocide in modern times (1972) right under the United Nations noses and NOTHING was done! Why is that??*

@mant8vaei314

3 жыл бұрын

How...are you talking about now because it’s really not that bad

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

Treu ,live conditions in the 19 hunderds were in Europe also very bad . After WW1 and WW2 it toke two decades to recover. The reason why many European migrated , nothing to lose.

you make such great videos it's amazing

Wow never thought that this would be so interesting, I watched the whole thing 👍

@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070

2 жыл бұрын

It's only an explanation of how European greed, pillaging and racism brutalized and set back several well-to-do nations the affects its citizens today. How interesting could that possibly be? lol

Thank You! We all appreciate the incredible effort you put into making this content.

@sleepy2364

3 жыл бұрын

Nice name

@isallowed6293

2 жыл бұрын

saddam hussein

Have you done a video talking about how South America is changing similar to this one about Africa?

Brilliant video. Keep going!!!

The problem the British created, the several military coups and the most ill- thought out constitution you can think off are why Nigeria has failed. Great video.

@mojotheaverage

3 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how often whites blame Africans for the problems that white imperialism caused. It's great to have a video like this that explains why that isn't the case

@tobiasogbon2835

3 жыл бұрын

@@mojotheaverage while whites caused a lot of Africa's problems we Africans have also played major parts in them. Thankfully, things are improving throughout the continent.

@sweettea3879

3 жыл бұрын

@@mojotheaverage It hurts my brain reading comments that defend the European countries. Like, how the hell do you expect people to suddenly govern theirselves as an Independent country when you spent decades killing, imprisoning, and exiling those who dared to?

@Atribecalledsuccess

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alaois pay back the money that was stolen through taxes, unfair wages shit like that

@Atribecalledsuccess

2 жыл бұрын

@John Williamson Lmfaoo white Americans aren’t native to this land dummy

Thank you for all the research that you put into this well-done historical explanation. As a white guy in the U.S. from European descent, and having experienced the racial frustrations expressed during the George Floyd demonstrations (I live in Minneapolis - major angst was expressed), I've realized just how absolutely ignorant I am in terms of the continent of Africa and its amazing history. (And this is just about the shtoopid white guys meddling, selfishly creating colonies with self-righteous profit always being the motive.. Not about the rich prior native peoples' histories and stories I hope to learn more about ...). Anywho. I can't make up for the transgresses of previous generations. I do hope to learn/grow/and ultimately share, with a genuine respect. We are all brothers and sisters

@websurferwizard

7 ай бұрын

Wait till you find out the history of warfare and conquering and murder before any white man every came to Africa. Then while you are at it, check out how "native americans" were. How most indigenous tribes were. Stop this weird white guilt stuff. Literally every nation on earth was built on conquest.

@shape4234

5 ай бұрын

Cringe

And thank you for the presentation! 🙂

Very educational and not going to lie I always knew there was history and something there (when they briefly mentioned any this over 5, 2 hour classis in highschool) but life gets so busy and you just forget. That is until one day you happen across a random KZread video that resparks that interest, and now that the internet is a thing and we are in a pandemic I'm going to go do more research for my self. TL;DR Thank you lol

in Nigeria, ethnic lines are used as cheap tactics to hold on to power while the real issue is the disparity between the Rural and urban Nigerians. Ignoring that divide is what is causing problems.

thank you for making this video and bringing light to this topic. it's sad that this isn't taught in european schools and the public has so little knowledge about all of the suffering that the africans went through.

@DearBill

2 ай бұрын

It’s very different for Vietnamese , Hmong , and Cambodian. They rebuilt very quickly.

Thank you for such information

It's funny how all of these events are not that far away. I mean in my mind I always put them way back in history. But there are actually just one generation between those events and us. My grandparents were actually colonised. I don't know it's just a bit mind blowing for me. Some of these events took place even in the 70s!

@ShubhamMishrabro

3 жыл бұрын

Not surprising if people think about these things like ussr dissolved only in 1991

@IssamMbarek

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShubhamMishrabro exactly!!

@barta9342

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting that the mass migration towards north Europe started also in the 70's with all consequences for the "native European ".