AFL Teams that changed nicknames and mascots (and why they changed)

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  • @rollingout8416
    @rollingout84163 жыл бұрын

    West Coast chose the eagle as it's one of Australia's apex predators and there is a story that it is because the team had to fly so often to play in the eastern states. Additionally the eagle always faces east (right) on the jumpers to face (and prey) on the other teams in the league. Oh, and eagles are freakin' cool!

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Makes sense to me!

  • @wayneburgess5336

    @wayneburgess5336

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey latterature I really enjoyed this video. Thanks heaps.👍 I was wondering if you could do a 'hypothetical' episode one day. The Mason Cox success story in recent years has resparked an old obsession of mine. Mainly of how to get our great game the traction it so deserves as a world class league that attracts the best athletes in the world and create a truly cosmopolitan competition. If we were to ever crack a major market of let's say the USA how would it be done?. How can the AFL even get a foothold in a nation that already has other huge sports? Our marketing campaigns and tv deals have yeilded very little traction over the decades. Iv developed a strategy and I'd like to hear your opinion. In one word 'KIDS'. What if each AFL club picks a town or region in the United States to set up base. That club introduces an Ozkick program to every school in the area from grade 1-4 or 5. And stick to that for 5 years. And then double down on that and bring it the junior high school aswell for another 5 years. As the decade draws to a close the AFL would have indoctrinated thousands of US kids to the fundamentals of our game. Those kids would teach other kids and so on and so on. And the love of the game will spread. But the real kicker is....that the AFL club that introduced Oz kick to that region would develop a kinship with that particular Club back home in Australia. Maybe even calling themselves idk the Austin Magpie's or the Salt lake City Tigers. You know what I mean. The point is we've created a talent pool. And it feeds directly to the AFL. And then flow in effect is in full motion. It takes time but I think the fruits it will bear would be promising 🙂 let me know what you think. Cheers once again for the vid👍

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wayneburgess5336 not a bad idea at all Wayne. I think teaching kids would definitely be the way to do it, and I love the idea of having partnerships with established AFL teams. The biggest hurdle is that there's no widely-available AFL available to watch in the US, so the kids wouldn't necessarily have the games to watch to help them develop their interest in the sport. The League would have to invest heavily in broadcasting the home-and-away season in an accessible way. Also, if they were serious, they could have a few games in the states each year (like they sometimes do in China) to build the international market.

  • @dragonoftheeast7572

    @dragonoftheeast7572

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool topic. The AFL has had games being broadcast overseas for years. There has been a slight decrease in that in recent years tho. And they have been bringing exhibition matches overseas for a while as well( battle of Britain comes to mind) and a USAFL league does exist and are going along in small strides. But I totally agree with @WayneBurgess a slight focus on a younger generation is needed for the game to really take flight overseas. Because those kids GROW UP. And with some patients those kids will do alot of the development process for us themselves. Besides it shouldnt cost too much to bring a whole bunch of balls and Guernsey's over there am I right

  • @cyclone571

    @cyclone571

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact eagles were the first non Victorian team to win the premiership

  • @ajdynon
    @ajdynon4 жыл бұрын

    I think "Warriors" and "Wolves" were also proposed names for GWS.

  • @chrisc3797

    @chrisc3797

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember when they were taking suggestions from the public online I coincidentally suggested the colours of orange, grey and white and the name Wolves, but then they selected the dumb name Giants and I've been salty ever since

  • @natashapettitt864

    @natashapettitt864

    3 жыл бұрын

    And sharks

  • @ethanbeinke2618
    @ethanbeinke26183 жыл бұрын

    Port couldn’t use pirates due to the fact there is a soccer club called the port pirates in port Adelaide

  • @Nicholasgoatifi6

    @Nicholasgoatifi6

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s true because my brother use to play for Port Adelaide pirates soccer team

  • @pzaikis

    @pzaikis

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think that's the reason considering they are an amateur club. PAFC have also used Pirates in their marketing towards kids, with Pirate mascots roaming around on game days.

  • @alexthemaltesefalcon5418

    @alexthemaltesefalcon5418

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pzaikis port are a federation club not amature, And they trademarked the name in 1996, I know because a friend of mine whos a life member of the soccer club got it trademarked

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    Pirates is the most lacklustre name of all time. Power was sort of smart. Its a neutral name and its needed because everyone in Adelaide knows that Port are the magpies. So why given them a name like penguins or pirates, it would confuse and not catch on anyway. I'm not from Adelaide.

  • @michaelschlitzer8742
    @michaelschlitzer87422 жыл бұрын

    This is really interesting. As an American footy fan, I’m fascinated by the history behind the game. Thanks for sharing!

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're a yank then the Eagles are a good to team to follow, especially if from California. West Coast... American Eagle and all that.

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    All the States have very successful football leagues until the late 1980s. WA (WAFL) SA (SANFL) Tasmania and Victoria (VFL that morphed into AFL), Ultimately, too many clubs drove themselves towards bankruptcy in the 1980s due to overspending on players. Then VFL got representatives from the other state leagues to join and pay a big licence fee. Of course VFL (at the time) then benefited also from increased TV royalties with more people watching the game in other states. So first you got Eagles (WA) and Brisbane Bears (from Qld). In early 80s South Melb Swans had relocated to Sydney. In the 90s you then had extra clubs from WA and SA. Then about 10 years ago extra teams from Sydney NSW and Qld. Tasmania is set to be the 19th team. As for a 20th team who knows. WA will end up having a third team. But maybe not for another 15 years.

  • @ajmullaaaaaaa

    @ajmullaaaaaaa

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BDub2024Isn’t Tassie the TSL?

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ajmullaaaaaaa Tasmanian new team. Not sure what TSL is.

  • @ajmullaaaaaaa

    @ajmullaaaaaaa

    7 ай бұрын

    @@BDub2024 The Tasmanian State League, their Footy league. Wasn’t part of the VFL.

  • @IH8PWS
    @IH8PWS3 жыл бұрын

    they are the West Coast Eagles because of the Wedgetail Eagle found on the west coast of Australia.

  • @rodneymcgiveron

    @rodneymcgiveron

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes .....and everywhere else...In Tassie we see beautiful wedge tail eagles all over the place. .

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    Blood oath and what a magnificent bird of prey it is. Pre match an Eagle flies around the stadium in Perth with an Eagle handler. Unique.

  • @ngaire-jasminbarrett5096
    @ngaire-jasminbarrett50963 жыл бұрын

    I still remember when the Gold Coast Suns came in. Some guy came in one day in primary school handing out these postcard things, I think it was a competition of some sort. I was like “ooo cool” and I’ve been a fan of AFL since. I’m a Hawthorn supporter 😅

  • @lindijones9893
    @lindijones98933 жыл бұрын

    Re Hawthorn Roy Cazaly in a pre game speech told his players that they would "fight, scratch and fly like hawks" it was in the newspaper the Monday after the match and from there on they became the Hawks. Hawthorne spelt with the E is a type of flower/plant thats where the "mayblooms" nickname came from.

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    teams were obsessed with flowers after WW1.

  • @hoddo33
    @hoddo332 жыл бұрын

    That must have been so much work to collect. Thanks for such a really interesting video.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Foul_Quince
    @Foul_QuinceАй бұрын

    A couple of those old nicknames travelled up to the Brisbane competition and were adopted by teams that wore the same jersies as their Melbourne counterparts - so Morningside became the Panthers as they wore St Kildas colours and Kedron the Redlegs, for the Melbourne colours they wore.

  • @deantsar6246
    @deantsar6246 Жыл бұрын

    The eagles chose their name at the time to copy the Hawks. At the time Hawthorn was in nearly every Grand final and they wanted to be also a bird of Prey They obviously chose the eagles who resemble the Hawk as a Bird of Prey This is fact and was mentioned at the time they came into the AFL

  • @Hello-qd3uy
    @Hello-qd3uy3 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised by how good this video is

  • @shaggyirl
    @shaggyirl Жыл бұрын

    As a fitzroy supporter I gotta admit that the freo theme is a banger

  • @jessedini9417
    @jessedini94174 жыл бұрын

    Great video 🙌🏽

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jesse

  • @jaymze6444
    @jaymze64443 жыл бұрын

    Good vid, keep it up mate

  • @tommym123
    @tommym1233 жыл бұрын

    Great video mate, you deserve way more views and subscribers, go pies

  • @trbikes6865
    @trbikes68654 жыл бұрын

    loved this👌🏻👍🏻

  • @Seahorse20
    @Seahorse20 Жыл бұрын

    Carlton were originally known as the Wanderers because they constantly changed home grounds. They were called the Butchers because they recruited many meat workers from Brunswick. They were called the Brewers for two reasons, firstly because of CUB, but secondly because many brewery workers played for them. Western Bulldogs need to return to the name Footscray. Collingwood were originally called Britannia. Essendon were also known as Fire and Iron. Hawthorn got their colors because of the Hawthorn brick works. Richmond were originally known as the Wasps. South Melbourne were called the Bloods, and blood stained angels. They became known as the Swans because they recruited many players from Western Australia.

  • @ajmullaaaaaaa

    @ajmullaaaaaaa

    5 ай бұрын

    South Melbourne were also once the Cecil Football club😂

  • @spaniardjr7918
    @spaniardjr79184 жыл бұрын

    This was so good

  • @papaproduction
    @papaproduction3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid bud keep it up

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michael!

  • @gondola0969
    @gondola09693 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Learnt heaps 👍

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @GHOSTY345
    @GHOSTY3454 жыл бұрын

    The Giants were actually inspired by the MLB team the San Francisco Giants who won the world series around the time of GWS' inception. You'll notice the colours are the same too.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Thanks for the info

  • @orang-utan

    @orang-utan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@latterature I read recently in a book on the history of the AFL that GWS were also named the Giants due to their image and idea being that of big and grand. They were going to be called something else (that I’ve since forgotten), but they wanted GWS To represent the grand heights they could reach.

  • @hanajinks1044

    @hanajinks1044

    Жыл бұрын

    Should be in a Sydney comp...no relation to Footy

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    To be honest orange and charcoal was a popular fashion combo then. Same as purple in the 90s and we saw the formation of Dockers, Glory soccer and Storm (thugby). In the 80s it was more about bright colours and yellows. Surprise surprise we saw Eagles and Brisbane start with a home jumper that was yellow.

  • @millertas
    @millertas Жыл бұрын

    Robbie Flower was a Demon Champion and captain in the early 80s. Thanks for confirming the actual origin of the Swans because of the WA Origins.

  • @ItzRobbie05
    @ItzRobbie054 жыл бұрын

    boi this was an amzing video

  • @theallies_09
    @theallies_092 жыл бұрын

    i like to think of the prison bars for port as the section of there current song "we'll never stop stop stop till were top top top!" as "we'll never stop stop stop running from the cops!"

  • @43scout74
    @43scout743 жыл бұрын

    this is a great video man!

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate!

  • @potatofridge8711
    @potatofridge8711 Жыл бұрын

    great video

  • @versaarchi
    @versaarchi4 жыл бұрын

    Great Video! deserves more views.

  • @reubenagboola
    @reubenagboola Жыл бұрын

    Strange bit of synchronicity going on with some of the football teams of England - Collingwood, formed in 1892, nicknamed the Magpies, wearing black and white striped jerseys. Same goes for Newcastle United - nicknamed the Magpies, who wear black and white striped jerseys and were formed in 1892. Funnily enough, they also have a big rivalry with a team that is nicknamed the Black Cats...

  • @CAD390
    @CAD3903 жыл бұрын

    FYI in 2008 for GWS the Sydney Celtics was a contender comprising Green and White livery to depict an Irish heritage influenced theme

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know that, thank you!

  • @mehhhhist
    @mehhhhist2 жыл бұрын

    the early nicknames that emerged organically are almost always better than the top-down re-branded ones. also i wish more clubs had uniquely australian names that made sense culturally, eg freo wharfies rather than dockers (american term)

  • @hanajinks1044

    @hanajinks1044

    Жыл бұрын

    Freo shooda been "The Doctors"..

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember you have the painter and dockers union in Australia. Everyone calls them the Dorkers anyway. Interestingly when they started there was speculation they'd be called Fremantle Doctors (you know after the breeze). So I think it was then very easy to go for Dockers. It was maritime. Sounded familiar as it sounds like Doctor anyway. Not too bad. Of course you're right about wharfies. I'm just glad they didn't go for pirates dolphins or the mariners, that sporting teams now seem obsessed by. When will we get names like Renewables!

  • @peterpiper831

    @peterpiper831

    Жыл бұрын

    Dockers was not copied from America. It's the original name of the wind that enabled sailing ships to dock at Fremantle. (Later got bastardised into Doctor)

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterpiper831 Docker is pretty catchy, as everyone was used to Fremantle Doctor, so it easily rolled off the tongue. The alternatives were Pirates, dolphins, mariners etc which would have been appalling. There are painters and dockers unions. Sharks would have been a better. Purple was a poor choice, but at least it was unique. It was a trendy colour with Storm and Glory choosing purple at the same time. Sadly Fremantle has turned its back on tradition and the Port heritage. No anchor, no original colours green and red, no acknowledgement of port heritage at games (its all heavy rock and ACDC). Container at game gone, so has anchor, mascot different, purple now a very dark navy purple. My advice. Embrace the Port of Fremantle. I know most of the fans have no connection to Fremantle, but regardless a club needs a heart and to recognise it home base, even if they are based 10km from the Port.

  • @tayloryermolaev7969

    @tayloryermolaev7969

    Жыл бұрын

    @@peterpiper831 It was never called "the docker" that was a lie made up by the two cunts who gave us the shitty team name. They were Victorian mongs who thought that everyone called wharf workers "dockers", people in WA have always used the term wharfies. Hatt and Kelly made up the "Freo Doctor used to be Docker" to justify their shitty name choice over the much more logical Freo Sharks, which made sense due to the East Freo Sharks playing in the WAFL, plus purple being a combo of red and blue (South Freo and East Freo). Sadly ruined by two morons obsessed with Victorianism.

  • @I_hate_Vegemite
    @I_hate_Vegemite2 жыл бұрын

    Followed footy for 50 years, but never knew that Fitzroy were the Gorillas for an extended period. While Port Adelaide are a significantly older club than Collingwood, playing many early games in Adelaide and Melbourne against Vic teams before even Collingwood existed, I thought that Collingwood were the Magpies first, with Port only adopting the colours, stripes and nickname in 1902. Prior to they wore Magenta & Blue.

  • @berranari1
    @berranari1 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. You kept saying red instead of yellow in the Tigers part, but we know what you meant. I have been to Albert Park, the lake was full of white swans. South Melbourne merged with Albert Park at one time, look it up. Anyhow there are South Melbourne Swans and that's why the team was called that, because of the Swans in Albert Park Lake in the south of Melbourne and very close to South Melbourne the suburb. Also, SM FC and Albert Park FC merged. Go Pies! 😀

  • @tonesbones502
    @tonesbones5022 ай бұрын

    Carlton were the 'butchers' because they used to play in small butcher hats, there's old photos of them in the hats. Carlton became the blue baggers during the war. After training the players used to bag up groceries for the needy at the local grocers. Some people mistakenly attributed the name to the little blue bags they used to put in the wash to make their away shorts whiter but that was a media based story that came later and is not the true origin of the name.

  • @jerseyforhawks
    @jerseyforhawks Жыл бұрын

    late here somehow - new sub.

  • @kaineverett3220
    @kaineverett32204 жыл бұрын

    I am a Carlton fan so obviously Carlton vs magpies beef but I gotta give respect, this is a great video

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kain, let's hope it's a blockbuster next time the teams clash

  • @extreamaussieguy2968
    @extreamaussieguy2968 Жыл бұрын

    You did miss a lot of Port's history as they did have a few different nicknames prior to using the Magpie. Cockledivers, Seaside Men, Seasiders, Magentas, Portonians & Ports. These were all used prior to 1900, which is also the last time any Port side finished bottom of the ladder.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn't know this. Thanks!

  • @extreamaussieguy2968

    @extreamaussieguy2968

    Жыл бұрын

    @@latterature It also highlights that Port did use a lot of different Guernsey colours prior to 1900 due to various issues with dye availability in SA.

  • @jackaspley3283
    @jackaspley32833 жыл бұрын

    This may be wrong but I believe Hawthorn were also known as the Mayblooms because in the early days of their inception into the VFL they would generally start a season well, "blooming" in May, before struggling for the rest of the season. It did take Hawthorn until 1957 to make their first VFL finals appearance.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Would be great if the teams researched these stories themselves so we could get an official history.

  • @gary36104

    @gary36104

    Жыл бұрын

    Also known as the mustard pots

  • @deantsar6246

    @deantsar6246

    Жыл бұрын

    Wrong They were called the mayblooms because of the predominant flower in the area that bloomed in May each year. FACT.

  • @theflyingdropbear2009
    @theflyingdropbear20092 жыл бұрын

    fun fact about Adelaide, they were originally either going to be called the Adelaide Sharks, or the Adelaide Rams, with jumper colors being Blue, White, and Green, which admittedly would have been much nice, rather than having to rely on state colors with state identity, it would have been nice if Adelaide chose to create an identity of their own, as every other team has done.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know this! Would love to see those jumper concepts

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    Is Adelaide got a blue or black as the third colour? I heard they were going to be the Camry Ramrys at one time. AFL didn't want Rams. Dockers never should have dropped green from their colours which was unique. They dropped the anchor and go for the unimaginative purple and white. Not a lot of flexibility with merchandise there.

  • @razorracer3472
    @razorracer34723 жыл бұрын

    The Freo theme song gave me a heart attack when it came on

  • @tonehall6384
    @tonehall6384 Жыл бұрын

    Someone might already mentioned this, but I always thought Geelong were known as the Pivotonians because of the Pivot fertiliser factory at Corio.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    Haven't heard that! Interesting. Thank you.

  • @pzaikis
    @pzaikis3 жыл бұрын

    It has just occurred to me why Carlton don't just adopt the "Blue Heeler" as their mascot? They can still keep calling themselves the "Blues" for short but they can actually have a decent mascot for the kids.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea! Beats a bloke in a jumpsuit

  • @Hornheart22

    @Hornheart22

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here in the US we have a hockey team called the blues and the mascot is just a blue bear

  • @AJWRAJWR

    @AJWRAJWR

    Жыл бұрын

    Or a blue-ringed octopus?

  • @iankearns774

    @iankearns774

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ben72 Not anymore mate. We will be right amongst it this year.

  • @lmproductions203

    @lmproductions203

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Hornheart22 well there is no version here so we can't name it that

  • @christiansrensen5958
    @christiansrensen595811 ай бұрын

    Invincible Whites... that aged like milk.

  • @rhyssanders9122
    @rhyssanders91222 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't it collingwood that were the shinboners? I'm pretty sure I saw a magpies player saying that one time in a vid

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    2 жыл бұрын

    They're mistaken! Only North have been the Shinboners (as far as I know, link me if you find any further info).

  • @damianoregan9160
    @damianoregan9160 Жыл бұрын

    It's called a Gernsey in AFL as apposed to jersey.

  • @alexjones9038
    @alexjones9038 Жыл бұрын

    can't believe i thought that teams had the same name since the beginning

  • @paulfromperth5713
    @paulfromperth5713 Жыл бұрын

    The West Coast Eagles had a board member on the news once in the late 90’s who said the club had discussions about changing the club colours to light blue and dark blue and being called the Perth Pirates. I think the Eagles need to put “Perth” on their logo. Not change to Perth Eagles but put “Perth” on the logo and on the back of their jumper at the top, like Brisbane have FFC at the back top of this jumper.

  • @4whomittolz846
    @4whomittolz846 Жыл бұрын

    come on man, the Port Adelaide Pirates would have been amazing!! how do you come in to the league with something as nebulous as "the power" when there's already an long suffering example of a club's long struggle with vague branding in the Blues?

  • @peterworp2583
    @peterworp25839 ай бұрын

    At least mentioned the fact port did not start wearing the black and white until 1912

  • @gastongianfreda5170
    @gastongianfreda51702 жыл бұрын

    Just a little light reading on the side there

  • @jltredrea
    @jltredrea2 жыл бұрын

    Port Adelaide went with Power as so no "living thing" replaced the Magpie.

  • @millertas
    @millertas3 жыл бұрын

    Failed to say that Collingwood formed by a split at Fitzroy.

  • @kspcrawf2091

    @kspcrawf2091

    Жыл бұрын

    Makes sense basically the same suburb.

  • @brettr5547
    @brettr5547 Жыл бұрын

    GWS Giants & Suns two American names for an Australian football teams....nice work Gill....

  • @zaco21_
    @zaco21_3 жыл бұрын

    The Adelaide Crows has different names that were never chosen and 2 of em are the Adelaide Lakers because they played at West Lakes and would make sense because it’s located in a lake area but was turned down because the LA Lakers from the NBA weren’t to happy for them to use the name. The second was the Adelaide Sharks and it was nearly the AFC Nickname because Adelaide’s Coast is known for sharks and also because they were located near the beach and was an ideal option to use but then the AFC settled on Crows because of the Croweaters as u said.

  • @pzaikis

    @pzaikis

    3 жыл бұрын

    And because Port Adelaide thought of it

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard Rams was the preference but disallowed by AFL. Second preference was Crows.

  • @angushealey6836
    @angushealey68362 жыл бұрын

    I think Fremantles colours come from a mix of the two Fremantle sides- red & white, and blue & white. Not sure where the green comes from though.

  • @jordanklingsporn763

    @jordanklingsporn763

    2 жыл бұрын

    The purple comes from South and East Freo (red and blue) but the green white and red is the Italian flag as Fremantle has a lot of Italian history

  • @mikespearwood3914

    @mikespearwood3914

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordanklingsporn763 The shade they use now is weird. Why is the purple so dark now???

  • @dreamstate1973

    @dreamstate1973

    Жыл бұрын

    The red and green also represented the lights leading out/into the port to guide the ships

  • @pzaikis
    @pzaikis3 жыл бұрын

    A "Pivotonian" is also commonly known as a Ross Geller Source: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGprtLuCj5PZk5M.html

  • @berranari1
    @berranari12 жыл бұрын

    The South Melbourne Team played at Albert Park where the lake is full of Swans.

  • @Seahorse20

    @Seahorse20

    Жыл бұрын

    South Melbourne were called the Swans because many Western Australians played for them, when the name was proposed.

  • @berranari1

    @berranari1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Seahorse20 The source of this is the internet and its source is Wikipedia. It is likely that the South Melbourne team that wore the Albert Park colours of Red and White would have used the white local swans as their mascot. Many logos featured white swans for Sth Melb and Syd Swans. White Swans not Black Swans, until the indigenous Sydney jumper had a West Aus Black Swan on it. In 1870 Albert Park played in the South Yarra Presentation Cup, the foremost competition of the era, and wore red and white striped guernseys. So striking was the uniform that the players were known as ‘those red and white beauties’. In 1878, the most powerful clubs in the colony formed the Victorian Football Association. Albert Park was among them, and in the first season they played 11 matches for one win, three losses and seven matches that were described as ‘unfinished’. One match against Melbourne attracted 3000 fans, but the rival South Melbourne club was on the rise. South Melbourne stepped up to the senior competition in 1879 and finished third behind Geelong and Carlton. With Albert Park on the wane, the two parties amalgamated in 1880, compromising on name and colours. South Melbourne kept its name but abandoned their blue and white strip in favour of the red and white of Albert Park. I understand that the internet says that in 1933 the South Melbourne Football Club officially adopted the Swans as their name. But the association between the mascot and the team is obvious if you have been there. I am sure that they told W.A. players that they were naming the team after their state bird. Why not tell them that? It was 1933, newspapers were the "internet" of the day. Think about it. Unless you are old enough to remember 1933. I was born in 1975. I don't think the man who made the video researched by finding people who remember the old names or what really happened. He would have looked online. Here is what "online" says- The team became known as the Swans in 1933 when the nickname was suggested by a Herald and Weekly Times artist. The nickname was inspired by the number of Western Australians in the team (the black swan being the state emblem of Western Australia), and was formally adopted by the club before the following season 1934. So according to this no one saw any swans in Albert Park before 1933, but people wanted to cheer for a bird that was from the other side of the continent. Or the newspaper wanted to make a story about Western Australian players. According to Wikipedia- Originally known as the "Bloods" in reference to the red colour used on players' guernseys, the Swan emblem was adopted in 1933 after a journalist at the time referred to them using the moniker following a large influx of Western Australian players. Wouldn't a newspaper say that they are the South Melbourne "Sandgropers" then? I doubt this wikipedia version unless I can see some proof. Wikipedia is not a source, it is a rough guide at best. I tried to find a Herald and Weekly Times article but the Herald Sun wanted me to subscribe and I will not give them even one dollar. If you are a subscriber to them please try and find the original article. If it even exists. Even if the newspaper called the team swans after the W.A. players the club officially called the team swans most likely because of the swans that swim in the lake there. Of course, the newspaper has the final say. Have a look at a Swans logo from the 1980s. White swan. W.A. players and the black swan may have been the initial inspiration but the team went with the local white swan as its mascot. th.bing.com/th?id=OSK.90a81c16b2846bf9e6cb62d74b14a2b4&w=124&h=168&c=7&o=6&pid=SANGAM th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.a8mrTYvZ0KAU1qj2rjrNTgAAAA&w=178&h=178&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&o=6&pid=3.1&rm=2 th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.a8mrTYvZ0KAU1qj2rjrNTgAAAA&w=178&h=178&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&o=6&pid=3.1&rm=2

  • @dazza0018
    @dazza0018 Жыл бұрын

    I am from the UK and support Footscray / Western bulldogs ( bulldogs being my favourite dogs ).

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    go Doggies

  • @thomes7318
    @thomes7318Ай бұрын

    My hometown had a team called imperials and they wore bulldog colours. Interesting

  • @steph_baltov
    @steph_baltov10 ай бұрын

    Mate, if you ever drive in the outback over there in the west, you would be surprised how many Eagles and Falcons there are.

  • @andrewpenn295
    @andrewpenn2952 жыл бұрын

    That outro was so weird, are you ok bro?

  • @millertas
    @millertas3 жыл бұрын

    You confirmed what I heard about how how the Swans got their name. NOT from the swans around the Lake Side Oval (which smartarse radio commentators from Sydney insisted) but from the high number of Sand Gropers playing for them at the time.

  • @tubester4567

    @tubester4567

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats total bullshit. They did get the name from swans at the lakeside oval. Footy was a total amateur sport until the 1970's. Men are not leaving WA to move across the country to play for free in the VFL, during the 1930's.

  • @millertas

    @millertas

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tubester4567 Amateur? Yes but that is not to say that cushy jobs were made available by wealthy Club Presidents.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tubester4567 From Sydney FC's official website: "In 1933 the eminent journalist Hec de Lacy referred to the Club in The Sporting Globe somewhat facetiously as the Swans due to the number of West Australian players the Club had recruited - the Black Swan being the emblem of Western Australia. Cartoonist Alex Gurney drew a cartoon that drew further attention to de Lacy's words and thus the 'Swans' emblem and name were born." www.sydneyswans.com.au/club/history/heritage-list

  • @peterkehoe1984

    @peterkehoe1984

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@latterature Sydney FC is a soccer team, mate. The four time A-League champions and the current reigning A-League champions to boot.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peterkehoe1984 Peter, I provided a link to the website I got the information from. It says 'Syndey Swans' in the URL. Please check before commenting in future.

  • @Driftty
    @Driftty2 жыл бұрын

    The red legs are what Norwood is in the SANFL

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    PErth redlegs became the demons.

  • @markwhelan9887
    @markwhelan98873 жыл бұрын

    When he talked about western bulldogs he said 1980 when he was meant to say 1880 and also Richmond is yellow and black not red and black not that it's really important thanks again for giving us some insight into our teams and there history cheers buds PS I'm just being possessed correcting you but I'm a little bit anal when it comes to facts silly I know 😉👍👌👏

  • @pzaikis

    @pzaikis

    3 жыл бұрын

    And he said Red and Black TWICE! lol

  • @alexthemaltesefalcon5418
    @alexthemaltesefalcon54183 жыл бұрын

    They didnt use the pirate nickname coz port adelaide soccer club who are named the pirates trademarked the name Port Adelaide pirates

  • @ianb4801
    @ianb4801 Жыл бұрын

    In those early days, ALWAYS Essendon AERODROME

  • @benjaminparkinson5255
    @benjaminparkinson5255 Жыл бұрын

    I miss Fitzroy and south Melbourne

  • @ashleighcruickshank345
    @ashleighcruickshank3453 жыл бұрын

    Re Geelong: There is still a basketball club there called Pivot City

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Didn't know that.

  • @giuseppinator9493
    @giuseppinator94933 жыл бұрын

    Coud someone tell me the deal between Carlton and The Baggers?

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    From the website blueseum.org (which has a few more nicknames I missed, so check them out if you're a Blues fan): "C'MON BLUEBAGGERS!....is an interesting one. Our best theory at this stage relates to an old laundry product used in all Australian households during and after WW2 (and internationally), called "Reckitts Blue" which came in a small white muslin bag. Reckitts Blue was put in the Copper or Washing Machine to whiten whites and brighten colours, and came in little blue bags."

  • @giuseppinator9493

    @giuseppinator9493

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@latterature thanks for the info. very helpful.

  • @anthonyversace9548
    @anthonyversace9548 Жыл бұрын

    Claims dockers be a better name than the sharks, *next shot drinks out of a shark mug

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    my docker mug was in the washing machine

  • @xavierkoch8705
    @xavierkoch87052 жыл бұрын

    Should've been the Port Adelaide convicts

  • @Driftty
    @Driftty2 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure that the crows were originally going to be called the sharks but they decided crows were better

  • @DylanStratton824
    @DylanStratton8244 жыл бұрын

    13:18 Red and black you mean yellow and black

  • @tubester4567

    @tubester4567

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea he said it twice.

  • @brettmcmahon7263

    @brettmcmahon7263

    3 жыл бұрын

    Typical numbnut pies supporter. Hope his teeth fall out prematurely 🐯🐅

  • @zaco21_

    @zaco21_

    3 жыл бұрын

    brett mcmahon bruh calm down with the messages.....I’m legit laughing too much 😂

  • @shatogirl

    @shatogirl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brettmcmahon7263 i don’t think he meant it intentionally 😭😭 calm down

  • @Podgorski37
    @Podgorski372 жыл бұрын

    Nothing about Melbourne being the Fuschias. Something about Ron Barassi or someone saying "play like Demons" and hence the name change

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    I mentioned both of these things.

  • @MrBlazemaster525

    @MrBlazemaster525

    Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't that "play like Demons" quote from Checker Hughes?

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    It was Checker Hughes from 30s or 40s

  • @F1bongbong
    @F1bongbong Жыл бұрын

    The blue baggers is cartons

  • @rerooar
    @rerooar10 ай бұрын

    Port Adelaide Est.1997

  • @leftovercrass5210
    @leftovercrass52103 жыл бұрын

    Fitztroy Goraillas

  • @Magpie_Mark92
    @Magpie_Mark923 жыл бұрын

    Im proud to say Collingwoods never changed their jumper and nickname

  • @MD-pl4ww

    @MD-pl4ww

    2 жыл бұрын

    maybe, but it was taken from South Australia…. the SA state team first played in black and white colours: “According to club records, a supporter had suggested the black and white colours after being impressed with the magpie on the South Australian coat of arms. Large numbers of magpies also frequented the banks of the Yarra near Victoria Park, and so this nickname was picked up with gusto.” the SA state team first wore black and white vertical stripes in 1891, Collingwood was founded 1 year later and their colour choice and logo was inspired by the SA state team

  • @kenbrand2123
    @kenbrand2123 Жыл бұрын

    Carlton were known as the butchers because butchers wore navy blue aprons, so I've heard.

  • @politicslaidbarewithtimoha8223
    @politicslaidbarewithtimoha82233 жыл бұрын

    Living in Western Sydney I wouldn't say 'Rugby' is as important here as Aussie Rules is to Melbourne. Game attendance suggests that Rugby League everywhere in Sydney lags well behind AFL attendance in Melbourne.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Thank you for the correction.

  • @Jwalktv
    @Jwalktv Жыл бұрын

    Gold Coast, is 2011 btw not 2009 and same as Giants they are 2012 instead of 2009

  • @masonator8
    @masonator8 Жыл бұрын

    pivotonians greatest name ever

  • @spade6240
    @spade62402 жыл бұрын

    Collingwood were the original magpies and the original black and white striped team, prior to 1902 port adelaide wore mageta and blue

  • @MD-pl4ww

    @MD-pl4ww

    2 жыл бұрын

    the South Australian state team wore black and white in 1891 … they were the original magpies!. The Collingwood magpie emblem was inspired by the magpie on the SA coat of arms

  • @UtWeak_CustardFarts

    @UtWeak_CustardFarts

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ha !! Colliwobble SA emblem biters..

  • @jdog6835
    @jdog68353 жыл бұрын

    Why did dogs change from Footscray bulldogs to the western bulldogs?

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    3 жыл бұрын

    Marketing, mostly. They wanted to appeal more broadly to all of the western suburbs, not just Footscray.

  • @carlrayson3104

    @carlrayson3104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Down through the years the Bulldogs supporters have also referred to the club as the 'scrays (short for Footscray) and the Scraggers as in scragging the opposition.

  • @mikespearwood3914

    @mikespearwood3914

    Жыл бұрын

    @@latterature Geez, lucky there wasn't a team named "West Coast" from WA already in the comp! That would've been embarrassing!

  • @BDub2024
    @BDub2024 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting to hear the stories of WAFL and SANFL. East Fremantle was Old Easts and changed to Sharks in the 80s. West Perth was Cardinals and unfortunately changed to Falcons in the 80s (thanks Cometti). WA State team became the Black Swans. WA formerly known generally as Sandgropers. Not many sporting teams would want that nickname. I think Subi was the maroons before lions and Perth the redlegs before demons. East Perth Royals changed for a few years to Eagles in the 1950s. But associated with poor form. Their coach surname was Sparrow. The press labelled them one sparrow and seventeen galahs. Fremantle Dockers were strongly rumoured to be the Dockers before they started. Named after the famous Fremantle Doctor. Club decided too high risk and went for Dockers which is a catchy and fans are already familiar with saying Fremantle Doctor. Just remove the t sound. Easy.

  • @frankmachin5438

    @frankmachin5438

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah my old man was grew up in Perth and always supported the ‘Cardys’ - hated the name Falcons and never used it. Refused.

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frankmachin5438 West Perth had a great traditional name in Cardinals (Cardies) and even wore Cardinal red. Cometti wanted to make it more marketable and loved the Atlanta Falcons apparently. Annoying. My team East Perth Royals was a huge rival to West Perth and played in Perth Derbies, where crowds were up around 20k. I went to one game where 25k were packed in to Leederville. Your dad would have hated East Perth. West Perth were also known as the garlic munchers for their italian/greek/meditteranean supporters. More politely as market gardeners. Mind you, EP had their fair share too.

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    @@frankmachin5438 West Perth still play in their iconic red jumper with blue sash and shorts and striped socks. Such a good jumper I'm surprised that AFL teams don't have it or something similar as an alternative. West Perth went to Joondalup about 30 years ago. Left their heartland to go 25km up the freeway. In even a sadder move, Perth Oval (EP home ground) was turned over to soccer Glory and EP were forced to relocate to Leederville oval. Something that doesn't sit well for EP or WP fans. One last bit of trivia. WP won the grand final this year and the WAFL grand final was at Leederville Oval. So a nice touch for the Cardies.

  • @Luke-ty2cj
    @Luke-ty2cj Жыл бұрын

    how's him throwing up the 666 sign constantly, then right at the point when he discusses Melbourne's name change to the 'demons' he throws up the horned devil sign!

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao mate your friends are worried about you

  • @ajexxan3415
    @ajexxan3415 Жыл бұрын

    I always think it’s stupid that a team in the east of Australia is called the WESTERN bulldogs when there’s 4 teams more western than them

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    True, considering they changed names in the 90s when there was already a national competition.

  • @heidiforgan3133
    @heidiforgan31334 ай бұрын

    The bloods are in the SANFL 15:04

  • @leighreganarblaster9852
    @leighreganarblaster9852 Жыл бұрын

    Did you Collingwood and cartoon wear in red, white n blue in est years I know Freeo sharks because south freeo sharks in wafl

  • @Ducatirati
    @Ducatirati Жыл бұрын

    Carltons original nick name , the butchers , came about because the of First of Carltons Gurnseys was a bit like Melbourne's A navy Blue bottom two thirds and a yolk like Melbourne red , Carlton had an orangeyRed that looked like a blood soaked Butchers shammy of the day, in fact , there is footage with Carlton on the ground, wearing 2 distinctly different gurnseys apart from the NAVY, one gurnsey was the original Mostly Navy with Bloodstain Butcher shammy along with a new Gurnsey a variation of the CFC Motto , both on the ground playing as a team , must have been hard in those days , why bribery allegations surface in 1910 , anyway that's history, and all I can say is......GO BLUES.....RARARA

  • @callumcarlyon9864
    @callumcarlyon98642 жыл бұрын

    I've heard people call carlton the "baggers"

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, a deviation from 'Blue Baggers' that seems to have made a comeback in the last decade. According to fansite blueseum, it may refer to a post-WWII laundry product that came in a blue bag, but that's not confirmed.

  • @christiansrensen5958
    @christiansrensen595811 ай бұрын

    As any gay fan will attest to, dock workers on grindr is definitely an enjoyable part the footy experience ;P

  • @Goatofafl.
    @Goatofafl.9 ай бұрын

    He said for Richmond red and black

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    9 ай бұрын

    Amazing work.

  • @dmax9946
    @dmax9946 Жыл бұрын

    Carlton Blue Heelers Tongue lizards Whales Winged kookaburras

  • @benjaminparkinson5255
    @benjaminparkinson5255 Жыл бұрын

    They are still footsgray in the vfl

  • @leighreganarblaster9852
    @leighreganarblaster9852 Жыл бұрын

    Did you know port Adelaide ware in 1970 pink n blue And bold bath hf

  • @ertyui710
    @ertyui710 Жыл бұрын

    I am surprised that you did not mention that the kangaroos were going to become the Gold Coast kangaroos

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't mention any of the proposed relocations of established teams. North Melbourne alone had had about half a dozen. Possiby a good video idea though.

  • @BDub2024

    @BDub2024

    Жыл бұрын

    they should have been the gold coast kangaroos. one of my mates dropped the kangaroos when that happened. admittedly they alternated between Eagles (being perth) and Roos. But enough was enough. Tassie roos is another option that hasn't happened.

  • @christiansrensen5958
    @christiansrensen595811 ай бұрын

    The pivot is a reference to being a pivoting point in the Ballarat/Geelong/Melbourne triangle, during the gold rush of the 1850s when Melbourne FC (1858) and Geelong FC (1859) were formed. It thankfully was overtaken by Cats. Your opinion is correct. It is a truly stupid name.

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the context! Very interesting.

  • @christiansrensen5958

    @christiansrensen5958

    11 ай бұрын

    @latterature cats v pies is always my favourite Match. It has basically always been a tight and evenly split rivalry. It's not like say roos, dees, tigers (until very recently) and dogs where we only lost once or twice in a decade or GWS where we rarely win. I think your boys will go all the way this year. I wished our QF last year was the GF or that you had beaten Sydney. I was stoked to win but it was boring AF if I'm honest.

  • @PluckYeah
    @PluckYeah Жыл бұрын

    What is a Gorailla?..

  • @latterature

    @latterature

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow epic comment bro

  • @stevesymonds7724
    @stevesymonds77242 жыл бұрын

    Collingwood and Port Adelaide get the nickname "Magpies" from their black and white strip. The word "pied" means black and white and has done since the 14th century. The European magpie is black and white and many sporting teams in Britain with those colours are called the magpies. The Australian magpie is unrelated to the European bird but it is still a big black and white bird so the name transfers easily.

  • @MD-pl4ww

    @MD-pl4ww

    2 жыл бұрын

    the South Australian state team wore black and white in 1891 … they were the original magpies!. The Collingwood magpie emblem was inspired by the magpie on the SA coat of arms

  • @markbenson84
    @markbenson84 Жыл бұрын

    Eagles are named after wedge tail eagle..

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