Omg I just moved to Tokyo about a month ago and I can't describe how accurate this is.

@user-nm2vf3lq6x

5 жыл бұрын

People outside of Japan laugh, people inside of Japan cry.

Japanese bureaucracy makes the DMV look like a Taco Bell

@jensenex9270

3 жыл бұрын

What's DMV? Thanks..

@asperand7550

3 жыл бұрын

@@jensenex9270 the Agency that regulates driving in the USA

When I was in Japan studying abroad, I had to move five times in one year. I became quite used to visiting city offices, ward offices, and other city buildings. It left such an impact on me that it's one of the biggest reasons I don't really want to live in Japan long-term. It weeds out the weak BUT I don't ever complain about the DMV anymore. That stuff is a breeze.

Meanwhile in Sweden: “Please write your personal identity number. Please sign.”

@rompom3833

5 жыл бұрын

by an app on the cellphone

I saw this video before moving to Japan and thought it was a funny exaggeration. After moving to Japan and having to make a couple visits to the city office, I realize I was sadly mistaken.

こんにちは、初めて道元さんの動画を拝見したのですが、これもはやショートコントというよりは新作落語の部類ですよ… オチが日本の市役所に対する良い皮肉になっていてニヤッとしました（もしかしたら海外の市役所も同じくらい面倒なのかもしれないけど笑）

Not to mention there's not enough boxes for English names. And you'll have to write another form just to change it.

And here we see the "Death by Bureaucracy" joke taken to its logical conclusion. .. If we don't see any future videos from Dogen, we know what happened.

Thanks a lot Dogen... Now I'll have to suppress a lot of laughs when i have to do this in January 🙈

お役所仕事って、簡略化すると仕事が無くなる人がいるから無駄な事やってるパターン多すぎ

@ethanstump

3 жыл бұрын

それは米国でもそうです。 ありがとう資本主義

I have the perfect solution. Have three different stamps that have your name, address and phone number so you can just stamp all your worries away!

@tiaxanderson9725

5 жыл бұрын

I also suggested this on Twitter with a passive agressive tone as if you only had the stamp to spite the person doing their honest work at the counter. But I was informed you need to use a pen that uses ink ;_;

@SnowyEvans

5 жыл бұрын

@@tiaxanderson9725 Get a stamp that uses pen ink.

@GustavSvard

3 жыл бұрын

Having a stamp of the king's signature was how the Swedish government operated for a while during the 1700s iirc. At first at the king's express wishes since he didn't want to sign several copies of the same papers!

one trick I learned, always stamp your 印鑑 from upper side

OMG this is literally what's happening in Japan!!! How realistic you can depict it!! Foreign subscribers leaning Japanese are advised to support this talented man! 凄い描写力ですね！日本人も顔負け！！！あとコメディとしてもかなり面白いです。

印鑑のしぐさ、分かりみが深い･･･ red tapeという言葉を最近知りました。 なんでどこもそうかと思ってましたｗ

Omg!!!! So truueee!!!! I get sick after visiting Shiyakusho once.

This literally happened last week, plus I have like 63729 middle names that they absolutely want

Okay so after binge watching your entire channel these last 3 days (with work and university in between) I have come to this conclusion: I need to start pay attention in Med class and in the ER.

I was so happy after hiring a local agent do handle all the paperwork on my behalf.

Funny to think that I experienced this just a few hours ago. Luckily, people were nice enough to forgive all my double crossed mistakes I made in almost all my forms...

無限ループじゃんw

I feel this on a spiritual level. And it hurts, it hurts so bad. Dogen, why remind me of this...

this is so true. i remember filling up three times because my hanko is a bit off

I believe I shall need to practice as much as I can before going so that I can re-fill out applications efficiently within the regular hours of operation. Is there a futon for people who have paperwork that will be going through the night?

ほんとすこ

This was so great!

I lived in the university dorm while in Japan, and I passionately hated writing my long address once... Can't even begin to imagine having to fill it thrice per document, I think my hand would fall off

Excellent !

First time KZread have notified me of your uploads 😂

this is actually much better. In my hometown there's no guide if you didn't ask and no one to remind you if y fill it wrong. and if y fill it wrong, you application ignored, they'll do nothing. unless you ask and then you have to make another application.

Germany: "I'm infamous for my bureaucracy." Japan: "Hold my sake."

I TOTALLY agree with this! For some reason, Japan really hates to computerize these types of things. So EVERYTHING is a handwritten form with tons of text. I'm sure that if you wanted to, you could learn Japanese in its entirety if you just read all the forms you have to fill out. I experienced the same idiocy even at the language school where I studied. So I suppose this was a cultural lesson in bureaucracy in and of itself. But seriously...How can a country that is trying to become a "world leader in technology" still have many major areas that are stuck in either the pre or early Internet development stage? Please don't get me wrong, I love Japan and find it absolutely fascinating, but I don't see how they are going to move forward without looking at their inadvertent aversion to technology. (PS. US bureaucracy, I'm looking at you too.)

@jannepeltonen2036

Жыл бұрын

I've heard the British are even worse at this :D

Fuck me if this isn't thr most relatable shit Ive ever watched

Hahaha I just moved to Japan and that's an accurate description of what I've been going through daily haha

well-done!

The fact that I have to go through this in a months time terrifies me.

Too true!! Too true... *tears*

Hooray for My Number Card and printing in Konbinis.

こんにちは。僕はDogenさんの作品が大好きです。Dogenさんが作るような知的で皮肉のこもった作品にはなかなか出会えません。もしDogenさんが本を出す事になったら私必ず買うでしょう。

On point

Ah, government waste. Truly a human universal.

Thank you Dogen. Lmbo. 😂😂

100% can relate to this. 😅

This was entertaining (.)

市役所楽しいよね

🈁と🈁と🈁　😂😂😂 BTW, when are you doing stories again? I mean, I can't be the only one missing the stories, can I?

Literally just did this, can confirm

面白すぎますねー😂😂😂😂

I thought it was going to be a joke about how they expect a foreigner to have an inkan

@dafaqu694

5 жыл бұрын

Well in my first week in tokyo, I already had my own inka

@tidenly

5 жыл бұрын

Foreigners do have inkan 😋

@dinapolarbear5435

5 жыл бұрын

I'm happy you do

I don't think I could survive japanese bureaucracy. My hand would cramp too fast.

市役所 was okay in my case, but I had to write my address 3 time for opening my bankaccount

It's so real it hurts. Only add the "MAINAMBAA" if you have to deal with taxes...

Serious question: can you download or just scan in a form and fill it out using a computer?

this is so true it hurts 😂🙈

I can so relate to this. -_- Though my problem came from how I write my "6". Apparently they look like the quick way of writing "4" for most Japanese people. My host mother and the city official were confused by my handwriting.

@LadislausKallig

Жыл бұрын

What? How is it even possible to write 6 like 4...

Great. Much better with slowing down so we can read the translation. This is really a cosmic problem. bureaucracy...

This is so true of Japan. lol

日本つらい....

ブラジル人ですがよーくわかります😅

The video: advanced Japanese lesson Me, a beginner who knows like 50 words: hmm yes very interesting

I moved recently. my god my god my god what a terror it was at the kuyakusho

Sounds a lot like the DMV 🤣

You managed to not forget your middle name? Impressive. It has been insisted that I write my middle name in every application! The Japanese don't have middle names and don't quite grasp how tiresome it is to write > 3 names over and over again.

@Math617261273

5 жыл бұрын

I have 4 middle names, latinos naming traditions are not suited for japanese forms that almost never have enough space for this amount of katakana.

Paperwork always seem stressful and tiring

I thought there was going to be talk of the a seal from the water.

面白かったー‼️(笑)

paperwork...the fetishism of Japan

最初にハンコを押すのはダメかな？

@user-pz2fg9ji1e

5 жыл бұрын

Diq＠ディック 思いつかなかった私は完全なる日本人だ😭笑

なるほど。外国人が日本人になったのではなく、日本人になった外国人が法的に日本人になったという。

For a moment there I thought it's any Polish City Office. Same vibe...

wow, you should change your 市役所

I would be hitting my head on a wall.... But that's kinda what happens here in some banks...

訂正印認めたげてwww

This is a joke but I've experienced this dungeon level in Japan first hand. 🤓

please do one about getting your driving license renewed, especially if you've been naughty and got some points

悪夢だ

and this is why when I need to move I avoid buildings with long name like グランドロイヤルブルーユニコーンハイツ．

At least Thank god they dont ask for inkan anymore now

You will not ask for signature stamps on your feedback application forms. It's a very special occasion, is not it?

You could solve this by stamping the seal first.

Why i can't stop to laugh XD

Japan, Glorious country with advanced technology Cute girls dress in cosplay Cute girls Girls Food But doesn't use carbon copy paper...

@dafaqu694

5 жыл бұрын

Food?? Japanese foods aren't even that good Indian/chinese/south-east asian foods are much better, bcs spices are gods

@noahparsons649

5 жыл бұрын

#6CBB3C wtf is wrong with you? Is all you think of in a country is dumb stereotypes?

@veemon

5 жыл бұрын

Japan isn't as advanced as people make it out to be.

@viliml2763

5 жыл бұрын

@@veemon People don't make it out to be advanced, after all Japan still uses fax machines.

@veemon

5 жыл бұрын

Vilim Lendvaj I assure you that nearly every person who has never *lived* in Japan makes this claim. After all, Japan has a worldwide reputation of being a "super advanced country"

河野太郎氏にインタビュー申し込んで欲しい

yeeep this is accurate. I'm Japanese but I don't like the bureaucracy.

@veemon

5 жыл бұрын

Marin W It seems nobody likes it.

Ah, bureaucracy...

ここにお名前を。。。Oh dear :D

印鑑ｗｗ

As usual, very Kafkaesque...

後ろの棚にある本は一見永遠のゼロに見えるがそうではない気がする・・・。何の本ですか？

@Dogen

5 жыл бұрын

永遠のゼロです。

@wind-flower

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dogen Ah, so my eyes weren't deceiving me after all.^^ I was about to ask whether you like it or not, but I just watched your "Lines from Japanese Literature" video where you read a quote from it, so that more or less answers that question as well. I haven't read it myself, but it seems to have been quite successful and also a bit controversial, just like the autor's latest book. I'll check it out sometime. On another note, I found you the other day through Twitter and have been binge-watching your videos since. I like your humour and taste in music (esp. Shiina Ringo/Tokyo Jihen)! Seeing your Japanese novel/随筆 writings on Amazon was really inspiring for me - I've been thinking about writing in Japanese for quite some time and have never tried it so far, but after seeing your stuff I'll definitely give it a shot. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to future videos.

大爆笑

As a lifelong Chicagoan, I do feel this. At the rate I can write Japanese, this sounds like a full-day affair...if I’m lucky.

🤣👍

Llegué aquí por recomendación del sensei Rafy ; )

ないないないw

ｈｈｈｈhh-はい。xD

まぁ最近ではコンビニで住民票とられるようになりましたが…（笑）

フィードバック申請書はワロタ

Oh, I can feel the triggering from here :_l

紙食いしかないでしょうw

Jajajaja

The worst thing is that -- it is just like this... and i have like 4 names (which i have to use even tho we normally omit middle names) so fuck me. Gj dogen-san :)