Motorcycle marketing is very odd. How many motorcycle riders are riding the Dakar? Kove and KTM sell 450 Dakar bikes. How many of us have been begging for a lightweight off road oriented 450 cc ADV bike with enough power for the occasional highway use and a large fuel capacity? We've been told to pound sand for decades.

Hello, I'm from Brazil and in January I bought a Honda Sahara 300. Here in Brazil we don't have many options for trail bikes in this engine range. Even though it doesn't have a water-cooled engine and upside down suspensions, the Sahara 300 is a very well built motorcycle and a great option for those who want a versatile motorcycle that performs well on all types of terrain. Its conventional suspensions have long travel (240mm) with a package that favors agile chassis and an engine with good torque at low speeds and good performance on trips. Congratulations on your channel!

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the insight 👍 Very helpful 😎

@stoicwarrior346

Ай бұрын

Seems like a great bike, what speed would it be comfortable on a highway without stressing the motor too much.

@FocoMotor

Ай бұрын

110, 120km/h. Top speed = 155km/h

@digobonsi

Ай бұрын

@@stoicwarrior346 Its engine at 110km/h will be at 6,500rpm. The operating range goes up to 8,000 rpm. I also have a CB 500x and the Sahara seat is more comfortable than the CB

@Liberty4Ever

Ай бұрын

I'd love to buy a 300 Sahara in the US but Honda is protecting its sales of other bikes rather than making a version of the Sahara that meets our safety and emissions regulations, which are mostly meaningless given the mods people do.

Honda 300? The title snagged me instantly

i would love that new honda 300. i had to look up the XRE and why honda doesnt sell this outside of south america ill never understand... its a modern xr street legal bike with spoked wheels and good suspension. exhaust doesnt go under the friggin engine either.... honda needs to sell this in other parts of the world!

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Agreed 👍

I am not a rider of smaller capacity bikes but it is astounding that the bigger brands (KTM, Yamaha, Honda) have been beaten by the Chinese manufacturers in bringing rally style, affordable 450cc bikes to market. Thanks for your great content Solid👍

I like the arrangement of the 300 Sahara and think it would probably be a better fit here in the U.S. than the CRF300 Rally. It would be a direct competitor to the Royal Enfield Himalayan, and a low-tech and cheaper alternative to bikes the Versys-X 300 or BMW's G310 GS. But I'm a huge fan of the simplicity of an air-cooled engine and still miss the old air-cooled dual-sport and trail bikes of the 80's, 90's and early 00's. If Honda would come out with an air-cooled CRF400 with electric start (basically the old EX400 quad engine minus the reverse gear) I'd be first in line to buy one. Those old 350-400cc air-cooled dual-sport and trail bikes like the XR400, DR350 SE, XT350, etc. of the 1990's were just super good bikes which is why nice clean examples still fetch a premium price in todays used market. Unfortunately now those bikes are at the age where many OEM parts are getting extremely difficult to find.

450 rally for the public ?? oh yes, bring it on

224 kg dry has to be the heaviest "middle weight". The 1290 SAR is 221 kg and no one would ever call it a middle weight.

@christianjohnsen105

Ай бұрын

often its not the weight they talk about with middle weight

The Yammie gear shift sounds like a winner for me. I have some issues with my left foot and ankle and this would be a game changer for me both on and off road. Bring it on!

I'd love a Sahara 300 in USA... Sounds like a great alternative to the 300L Rally for someone who wants low HP, 80-90% street all-rounder.

Good on ya mate glad to see your fit, healthy and kicking goals with your videos. Regards from Brisbane

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate 👍

Yamaha YESSSSS more automatic / semi-automatic gearboxes is a GREAT thing. I already have an order for MT450 in which I will thoroughly enjoy riding, but if Tenere 700 semi-auto (no clutch) comes out, I'm buying one!

Not a lot there for me this week Solid to be honest, however the Safari 300 might be a good seller as a intro bike if it ever came to Australia.

Honda looks good, rider looks great. Got enough with the CRF 300

Middle weight category or middle displacement? A 230+ kg bike is not a middle anything in my head, anyway.

@jarrod1687

Ай бұрын

Yeah that's a purely on road bike at 230kg

My man, please don't call that MV a middleweight, even if it's their marketing that names it so. It's a heavyweight. No doubt about it. Call a spade a spade and stay true 🤙

could you make an update in the new beta alp 4.0? It just released!

Yamaha has used a similar system for years on the FJ1300 ST motorcycle. Worked great just different having a button instead of clutch lever. I've used it now for over 20 years on my Honda Rincon atv. No issues. Full manual push button with with automatic over ride or total auto. China don't care junk from our experience as of late. MV, crowded field for big ADV bikes and expensive.

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Since 2006 👍

The Orange bikes are designed to make you visit dealers often. I do hope the new design includes new oil pump pinion. Its a gamble to get lost out in the open with one of those. Air cooled Honda got me but I do hope they bring one out for the big boys not just for learners permits. Thank you for video, deserts down there must be amazing to ride.

how would you actually charge the apocalypse bike during an apocalypse 🤔just a thought.

@MotoCampAdv

Ай бұрын

Right makes zero sense

Unless, Yamaha has really advanced the semi-automatic electronic shifted transmission, it is doomed to fail. Nothing works like a true DCT when it comes to smooth fast gear changes.

the Tenere, the MT07, XSR 700 and Tracer 7 deserve a better clutch, like a slipper/assist clutch... I have a T7 and it gets "heavy" real quick while riding in the city and through traffic

The KTM is a toy for the rich or dedicated racer. Interesting to see the CF Moto 1250. Doesnt shock me, looks great. As im on line to get the 450. Suites my riding and my size very well. With the CRF300L we already have here in the states, that 300 might not do well. But does give an option to those looking for something like that. Similar to a Versys 300.

@tsehlotsehlo8806

Ай бұрын

i have lost interest in ktm due to not being affordability, its impossible to get ktm, i opt kove,a good choice for us

@trioli10000

Ай бұрын

agree, except for the term toy. KTM is not a toy, it is the benchmark. Benchmarks are the reason for continuous improvement pushing others to make things better. KTM is, like you mentioned, not affordable for anybody, but imported for the market.

I trust Kove 450 Rally reliability over ANYTHING KTM puts out.

@AussieDazza

Ай бұрын

I have had ZERO issues with my KTM’s .

@jarrod1687

Ай бұрын

The ktm 250-500 excf are rock solid. 690 less so but still decent, anything else I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole from ktm

@okanaganrider4332

13 күн бұрын

My friends new Ktm puked it’s clutch oil the first year. He had to truck it home.

Like how you talked about the KTM Rally, that's excactly what Kove is doing, AJP with the PR7 from 2017. But nooo not if you're a big brand snob 😢

@jimtitt3571

Ай бұрын

KTM have sold a Rally Replica since 2011, they are hand-built race bikes nothing like the Kove or AJP.

@johannescarlsson4559

Ай бұрын

Kove 450 Rally is also a race bike. It might not win the Dakar but it's ready to race and priced less than a dual sport

@jarrod1687

Ай бұрын

Ew

@timbrandt7211

Ай бұрын

@@jimtitt3571I’ve got 4 orange bikes in the garage so I’m not being a Kove fanboy, with all politics aside, agree they’re not the same level of build, but they are exactly the same class, a 450 rally bike made to compete in the Dakar and rallies, at a fraction of the KTM cost. Not to mention the KTM almost being unobtainable.

@johannescarlsson4559

Ай бұрын

@@jimtitt3571 Nothing like what? They are all hand built race bikes, PR7 can´t go dakar onky becouse of fuel and engine capacity

If they take the clutch away what happens when I b=need to slip the clutch?

@baenkt

Ай бұрын

The system will slip the clutch for you. But i think the Honda e-clutch is better, because you have the lever and can always override the system.

My local dealership just added MV Augusta. Can't wait to see some of their bikes. Glad you seem to be feeling better, Solid!

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Thanks Bill👍

A 500 EXC Rally would be awesome!

KTM really needs to put those sweet front tanks on their 500 EXC. 18.5L down low would be perfect for dual sport.

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Amen

@mikeisland7382

Ай бұрын

@@chroniclesofsolid That new Rade garage aux tank looks to be a pretty sweet option since the factory rally tanks aren't available.

Hi, I am in Canada. Seeing 2023 KTM 1290 SAS going for $18K ($CDN) new! . So unless CF is intending to sell their Big MT under $15K kitted out with Panniers I would not consider them. No resale, spotty dealer network.

Can always count on you to bring me up to speed quickly. Less KZread and more riding. BTW, only 1290s with a 21 front is of interest. Thanks!

To say that the technical feats are ‘considerable’ is a bit of an understatement. I’d have thought making a single-tracked vehicle able to steer rather more complex than that.

People say air-cooled like it's a bad thing, but it cuts down on weight and is easier to maintain than something with a radiator. I bet that Sahara 300 is very lightweight - if it came to North America i would strongly consider it

From China there are few interesting bikes, I got a Lextra 300, 2 T, ( in USA and UK is sold as GPX), their quality is quite good, at affordable prices.

sounds like if someone wants auto clutch to just get a rekluse and keep the foot shifter

Greetings; Good to see you looking better! Thanks for an interesting report on the bikes The last 'bike' was just nuts! LOL... CF Moto is competing with the Big Brands and price is the key issue, something the big manufactures seem to fail on, constant price increases... David...Adelaide...Triumph Scrambler 1200X.....

I would love the honda 300

I’d be pretty skeptical of that Oruga thing, as both those images appear to be AI generated by my eye. Cheers mate

@okanaganrider4332

13 күн бұрын

Looks like it can only go straight

That Orugo Unitrack , If it has only one track "How does it turn"?

I think there is a market in western countries for simple, cheap, light and reliable bikes such as this 300 Sahara. the 300 crf l is a great exemple. bikes at 20ke euros is now for old and rich people. if you are young and with less money you can only get old used bikes.

That KTM 450 Rally bike is on fire 🔥. If KTM made one at a reasonable price, I think the ADV crowd would be waiting in line to buy one. It's the 🦄 bike a lot of off road riders have been waiting for. However, at $26,000 dollars, only dedicated rich riders can afford one. 😢😮 3:49

...i would like to see...a490 or a 590 ktm2 cyl...!!!

Definitely not interested in a semi-auto T7 (already own a regular one), but with that motor and gearing, you can keep it in 2nd for damn near everything trail-related

Semi-automatic system looks like more weight up top.

Any guesses on the Unitrack's slow speed turning radius? Or any speed for that matter?...

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

No idea 🤷 I cannot see it being easy to achieve though 🤔

Why cant Honda make the crf450l with long oil change intervals. Would make the perfect rtw bike. The 300l doesnt have enough hp for my liking

@LaneHadway127

Ай бұрын

Oil changes can be extended. The oil analysis has been done.

@vindiesel5466

Ай бұрын

@@LaneHadway127 would 5000km intervals be realistic?

Love this channel. I'm surprised that it's still not larger I'm really only commenting to feed KZread and give it that tiny push to people's feeds

If only KTM used their brains and made a basic version of their rally 450 nobody would be talking about Koves...

I have thought about a system similar to yamahas for a couple of years. With the qs up and down moving the gear selector to the bars seem like a natural progression. I dont buy the argumet that changing gears in off road situations could be harder. Maintaining a good foot position in these situations is super helpful and gives your upper body and hands more freedom to be relaxed and move. Why do you think there are thumb brakes for the rear brake? However, i think the Honda e-clutch has an advantage in keepeng the lever giving the rider full freedom to override the system. I think i would prefer a good E-clutch over the Rekluse.

Enough of these 300s already, they are just too small. Let's get a platform based on 500cc engine.

T7. Forget the clutch. Tubeless and cruise please Yamaha.

Weird question but what hoodie were you wearing? Looks good!

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Not sure, I got it at a thrift shop 😅

Do the KTM competition rally bikes have ride-by-wire throttles/rider modes etc or are they tech-lite? Seem interesting to be if they could make a tech-lite road legal version.

I was shocked to learn that you can use a 450cc to win the Dakar Rally, as opposed to 900cc or bigger as is the case with the Triumph 1200 or Super Tenere 1200, Hondas 1100 /900cc Africa Twin .......

KTM 450 Rally $30k +, Kove 450 Rally $10k, how come? Does this channel ignores the Kove?

Solid, I heard that they are making a Live Action Saitama Movie and the Internet is looking to cast J-Sins in the role of Saitama & I think you should apply for Casting and try to go for auditions for that role, Now that I have seen you with bald head , I can help but notice the similarities between you and Saitama !!

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

Better start doing some pushups I guess😅

A Sahara 300 built in the Amazon. Sounds like bad marketing. Can't imagine an automatic T7 with menus! Maybe a third handlebar?

Oh Solid, you had my hopes up on the Sahara 300, but it will not be available in north America. Strangely, you can still buy the XR650L here new. I've had a chance to borrow one of those and abuse it on and off-road. The prospect of spending $1500+ to fix its deficiencies is something of a negative.

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

It’s a shame, we’re not getting it here in OZ either. Jealous you still get the big red pig. It has been discontinued here since 2008 😢

@suzyamerica4679

Ай бұрын

@@chroniclesofsolid A fun bike to be sure, but I found a lot of downers from riding it for a month or two last summer. Once it got all of 104 miles on a 2.8-gallon tank on a pavement/gravel rally outing. The gears are oddly staggered, with awkward 1st-2nd-3rd spacing. Battery should come stock as lithium since it's in a strange place for rear frame loading under stress. Absolutely needs some kind of rear frame support to carry anything. Ergonomics straight out of caveman days. You basically need to spend a chunk of money to turn it into what it should have been from the factory. Many pluses however. On gravel roads and on some kinds of dirt, its Dominator heritage shines. The front suspension is very old-school but is good at soaking up big square hits.

gee, with mountain bikes all the shifting is done with the hands. I'm not sure how well that translates, but as a basically novice rider, moving my feet off the pegs it more of an issue. More the brake than the shifter. For competent riders, i can see this as a 'no go'.

hope not got the TOFU cams like the KTM790/890 & Husquvarna Nordon 901

KTM makes some crazy business decisions. Full size sport bike for the road? Nah. 450 Rally for the public? Nah, we just want to sell dirt bikes and Dukes.

Okay Sahara 300 is a little disappointing now, I was hoping for twin cylinder like the versys 300 with a slightly more dirt set up

Mountain bikes which can be ridden in even gnarlier/rougher terrain use electronic shift controllers but on the right hand due to no throttle I for one would be delighted to have both brakes hand activated and button shifting if as ergonomic as say a mtb

@muskokaliving2072

Ай бұрын

I agree. Shifting with your foot through gnarly terrain while standing wouldn't be easier than with your thumb. I would be interested in trying a hand shifter but I don't think it'd be a game changer and if it costs a lot of money I wouldn't bother.

I'm not buying a Honda Africa. I just don't want one. The Sahara 300 on the other hand I would. I don't like the Rally 300 styling. What are we still back in the 80's? Someone at Honda thinks so. Ok, don't bring the Sahara 300 to Australia. That just equals one less bike you sell, Honda. 🤔

That cfmoto rendering is so clearly ai. So many telltale signs

Sahara 300? For sure never going to show up in Europe, it will very most likely not Euro5 compatible, neither regarding emissions (air cooled) and all other electronic gimmicks Euro5 is dictating.

😂 Yeah standard clutch... Mandatory off road

Air cooled 😂 👋

If the Kove 450 came out after the KTM450 Rally, many would have said that the Chinese copy or stole from KTM.

@HartyBiker

Ай бұрын

The Kove 450 did come out after the ktm 450 rally. What do you mean?

@user-vo8ij2jj4r

Ай бұрын

@@HartyBiker he just has no idead of what he's talking about

@mmaaddict78

Ай бұрын

The Chinese copy and steal everything. They have zero innovation of their own.

@kl9518

Ай бұрын

​@HartyBiker Apologies, I thought all these bikes are 2024 in production fir the masses. So these KTM, Honda, CF Moto, all came onto the market back in 2021.

sorry by the question, What is doing honda sahara in this video jajajaja

Why are there no sub 500cc adventure twins already!?

@Ntmoffi

Ай бұрын

Honda has the CB and now the NX with a 471cc twin. The Versys X-300 is also considered an adventure bike and it's a twin. At least that's what I can find here for the US.

@Gracinda80

Ай бұрын

@@Ntmoffi The NX is too heavy, and there are no more X-300's for sale in Europe, so not enough to choose from. Aprilia could have done it already with the new 440 engine, the Norden 501 has been promised and never delivered, Triumph missed a golden opportunity with the 400 class... Disappointing.

How would you steer a unitrack?? Weights are not even close, surely it would weigh at least 600 lbs. and be a pig to handle.

An electric apocalypse bike is an oxymoron. When society collapses there will be no electricity to power charges. We'll be on horses again. 😂

@juliollfilho

Ай бұрын

Solar power

KTM & Ducati are both manufactured by CFMoto of The People's Republic of China.

Nobody wants a ChiCom bike 😂

KTM sounds great and flies a long way through the air but the paint scheme is as ugly as the back end of a baboon. I have the 2014 450 SXF

What’s the point of a KTM anymore? When I can get a CFMoto… esp if you’re in a rush. Shame on you KTM.

You can't ride off road without a clutch unless you are on a stupid E bike(cycle).

@leeinwis

3 күн бұрын

My Ebike does have speeds , I haven't rode it in a year tho lol , because I have real bikes .

Who would want an automatic or semi-automatic? Certainly not a true motorcyclist!

@nerychristian

Ай бұрын

I would. Those of us who use our motorcycles to commute to work, and want something that isn't going to leave our wrist sore after a long ride.

@jarrod1687

Ай бұрын

X2 just drive a car at that point

@nerychristian

Ай бұрын

@@jarrod1687 Motorcycle allows me to use the carpool lane and get to work faster.

@MotoCampAdv

Ай бұрын

Why do you care

@AndyPat239

Ай бұрын

what is a 'true motorcyclist' ?

The ktm is the most succesful rally racer, because the regulations don’t forsee any other bike type, and there hasn’t been a competitor so keen on winning that very specific niche category as ktm was desperate to establish, and maintain such category. It’s like saying there hasn’t been a more successful flat-tracker in the indian FTR category than the Indian FTR. Ridiculous for someone with a historic context view. A gentleman’s adventure bike, wow, more BS marketing statements. Fluff-Puff-Blower. MV talk without experiencing it, but snitching snippets of information fro other sites, anyway a strategy of this poser in his channel. And talking about things he doesn’t know at all, as they don’t exist and so trying spinning speculation wheels from an irrelevant position on the social market.

Ktm is bipolar

Sorry to nitpick but pretty sure road-oriented isn’t pronounced “road-orientated”. 😢

@chroniclesofsolid

Ай бұрын

I’m guessing you’re American? Queens English uses orientated. Then there was that little tea party 🎉 and the USA developed its own branch of the English dialect 👍 Either is accepted but outside of the USA, amongst the colonies, orientated is the preferred term 👍

I'd be interested....CAN it be street legalized in the US?