Hope you enjoyed the video!

@LeviJonMeyer

Ай бұрын

Honestly, one of your best👏🏻

@limitedhangoutlive

29 күн бұрын

Hey dude, you're looking like you're gaining a bit of weight. As someone who just went through something very similar recently, and I recently lost my best friend in February due to it (not to say you're that bad or anything), I urge you to bite the bullet and work on it. If I can do it, you can too.

this tutorial was so detailed and comprehensive! i’m so excited to use firefly and create mockups

This is great for webdesign and online ads because most of time we work with zero budget for this kinda of art and have to use sobpar options in image banks. This give the art director way more input than just search in those dreadful image banks.

INCREDIBLE video!!! I am just not watching but it is in my favorites already! Thank you!!

Graciasssssss! Despues de buscar mil tutoriales, con este logré hacerlo.

I just downloaded Photoshop Beta. I love it!!!

Really awesome, was wondering why Firefly could not be part of Photoshop and now it is here.

I really liked ur desk step..

Very cool tool

Awesome 👍🏼

감사합니다

I have a design presentation coming up soon and I love how this video got me so motivated. It’s a tool that we have a hand to control, it might not be perfect but it does help to save a lot of time.

@NomadicSims

21 күн бұрын

Wait til it replaces you. You’ll be really thrilled then. Literally just saw a video where a poor designer is now frantically job hunting because his company replaced him with AI. He was with them for 7 or so years and they fed his work into a machine to make him redundant

@mobarakjama5570

15 күн бұрын

@@NomadicSims Saw the same video.

@mobarakjama5570

15 күн бұрын

A tool is incomplete without you, AI is more than complete without you, so AI is not a tool but a replacement for, well, YOU.

i followed the same steps buy everytime i generate its showing me the same green slime ball

@willpatersondesign

15 күн бұрын

I’m going to work out a fix - others are having the same issue.

Hello will! i couldn't stop looking at the doodle painting behind you, how its called that type of art?

1st🥇 I really love your optimistic thoughts how AI and graphic design could collectively work together, which is amazing.❤️

@willpatersondesign

Ай бұрын

:D

@zk4929

29 күн бұрын

Yet, extremely naive 😂

Good Bro..keep it up.....

Thrilled from the get go! Thanks

It doesn't replace the graphic designer (until it's made so simple that our clients can use it themselves don't forget) but what about all the professional photographers, lettering artists and 3d artists who's work was used as learning models to teach these AI engines to do what we want? What about their careers? Whether you like it or not it's coming for us!

@NomadicSims

21 күн бұрын

Just saw a video where a graphic designer lost his job due to being replaced by AI, a model that was trained by the designer unwittingly. It is actively replacing us, and its so sad. Poor dude is now having to hope he can get a new position after 7 years or so at that firm all because a computer is now able to do our jobs cheaper

@reuterss306

21 күн бұрын

@@NomadicSims If you are a graphic designer who can be completely replaced by AI, you are a pretty bad graphic designer tbh. Please link the video you mentioned, because I am working in graphic design for many years and AI is not even close to touch my job. All it does is speeding up my workflow, but its still years or decades away to do what a real human is capable of. Until then we got enough time to adapt and find our niche. Even though AI is one if not THE biggest thing in human history ever, it is normal that jobs get replaced (industrial evolution etc etc). The positives that AI brings outweighs the negative a LOT, if people learn how to use it correctly.

@NomadicSims

21 күн бұрын

@@reuterss306 i think you are possibly the most naive human being I have ever spoken to, and also have a massive ego to boot. I would never work with someone like you and your work is probably uninspired and basic because i doubt you take criticism well. Critically think for two seconds. Look at how swiftly AI images have developed in the last YEAR. Its insanity. They have gotten good, good enough to fool a huge portion of the population and is only being worked on harder. In the next year, designers will absolutely be replaceable by AI. And they will be, because its cheaper for companies to tell a computer to do it instead. If you cant see that, there is no hope for you lol

@techtipsuk

20 күн бұрын

@@NomadicSimsI don’t believe you.

@NomadicSims

20 күн бұрын

@@techtipsuk so go watch the video that talks about it. Or don’t critically think lol be naive forever if thats more comfy for you

how did you upload your letter into the software?

V3 is really good...have been using v2 for while, too poor, but v3 isn't similar to what mid journey deliver us.

Hi i keep watching all these videos and do exactly step by step the same and never get Firefly to do the structure i asked about. many of my colleagues tried as well. What seems to be the problem?

@user-mt8bz1lw6g

16 күн бұрын

Me too.I don't know what to do.

@vik_vektor

15 күн бұрын

Same here, added a simple structure, set everything like Will and it didn't do much :S

@riverdavis2520

6 күн бұрын

literally spent hours replicating this and nothing....

Fab video and this is exactly what I have been playing with this week. I absolutely love it! I would add one more step though. Take the image back into Illustrator and use the Mockup > Make tool for more curvy surfaces. There's definitely a skill in writing the prompts too, quite the Adobe Credit eater! Taking sketches into Firefly and creating 3D characters is also amazing. Just oodles of fun!

why doesn't it work for me? I have followed all your instructions in the video. but when finalizing changing the font to reference style, it didn't work out in the font I wanted :( help...

@rabiasaif8483

18 күн бұрын

same :(

@chrisstocker

17 күн бұрын

Yes its a fake video

Mine does not work, it keeps creating the prompt but ignores the estructure, why?

@ErikaWild

8 күн бұрын

Mine too, doesn't do any structure upon an object... (

I like this approach to using ai. Not an outright replacement for more advanced tools with more control. Like any other tool, it depends on the restraint of the artist. You "Could" design everything 100% with ai but it's not wise in the long run. I do disagree with words like "realistic" and "excitement" being used to sell this tho. On further inspection the images still have an uncanny-valley feeling, and it's not as if it makes the artwork "Better". Wish people trying to sell ai would just calm down a bit.

I used this method one a logo that has more letters (about 10) and it seems to struggle a bit, its definitley not as clean, it tries to do both logo and background

@TheQgamingChannel

12 күн бұрын

Maybe try to do each letter separate

I have followed the same but I have found prompt result not at the structure

@calistojunior5030

15 күн бұрын

I have the same problem... My Letter did not create like a latter... Do you solved your problem?

@sourodrigoseixas

9 күн бұрын

Export into JPG not PNG.

@mothership7288

8 күн бұрын

@@sourodrigoseixas already but same results

@sourodrigoseixas

8 күн бұрын

@@mothership7288 try with a wider font and mark art instead of photo

Will, I just added an elemento into structure and another one suggested by the app to style, adjusted strength and visual intensity and hyper realistic...Clicked and generate and I still see only the style...it didn't apply into the structure.

@nicoloveltroni691

Күн бұрын

Me too

The tool did not generate what is on the video

@enginaktas6798

28 күн бұрын

it worked. be sure you export your letter as jpeg format. If its still doesn't work inflate it in illustrator then export it again as jpeg

@chrisstocker

17 күн бұрын

yes its a fake video

And this is only the beginning. This will change everything. Thank god I retire in 3 years...

@kamm3021

Ай бұрын

Yeah AI software will take over most jobs

@NomadicSims

Ай бұрын

Congratulations on your planned retirement! I’m jealous you wont see the financial end of artists and designers getting paid for work. He says he wont be replaced but that is incredibly naive, especially with how AI had developed the last year alone.

@Leadership_matters

27 күн бұрын

It will change some things. Most people have no desire to mess with this and will be happy to outsource their graphics regardless.

@davidpharo

24 күн бұрын

@@Leadership_matters Or, they actually won't and there'll be a plethora of derivative guff by simply voice-prompting "Can you make an image of that looks like ." Having had the "Can we just make it like the whatever…" 'brief', or its current trend equivalent, I think that perhaps 80 percent plus of clients may be happily served by an AI which facilitates that. There's so much value in being able to generate assets with minimal friction; and an 'AI art-director' to bring some flair and unity is surely but moments away. All great in one sense, but on aggregate making it ever hard for things to achieve cut through perhap? Reminds me of something a great photographer once said: "There's nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy idea.' Ansel Adams

@Leadership_matters

24 күн бұрын

@@davidpharo there will definitely be a sea of guff. Nonsense knows no limits in 2024.

Hopefully adobe will give Firefly the ability to control resolution soon.

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *🖥️ Introduction and Overview of Adobe Firefly V3* - Introduction to Adobe Firefly V3, - Explanation of creating 3D images without traditional 3D software, - Mention of Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Firefly. 00:54 *🎨 Initial Steps and Prompt Creation* - Sketching and digitizing the design, - Typing prompts into Adobe Firefly, - Initial attempts and adjustments to the generated textures. 02:27 *🔍 Using Style Reference and Structure in Firefly* - Using style references to guide AI, - Uploading images for structure, - Combining prompts, style, and structure for detailed results. 04:02 *🧪 Experimenting with Materials and Textures* - Experimenting with different materials and prompts, - Assessing the realism and quality of generated images, - Applying various effects to enhance the output. 06:04 *🚀 Upscaling and Refining Images* - Using Kive AI for image upscaling, - Importing upscaled images into Photoshop, - Enhancing details and making adjustments in Photoshop. 09:15 *🌟 Generating Entire Images in Photoshop Beta* - Using Photoshop Beta's image generation feature, - Creating realistic mockups from text prompts, - Benefits for graphic designers using AI tools. 11:03 *💡 Creating Mockups for Client Presentations* - Generating business card mockups with specific details, - Using AI-generated images for client presentations, - Highlighting the uniqueness and realism of AI-generated mockups. 12:11 *📢 Conclusion and Call to Action* - Final thoughts on the potential of AI tools, - Encouragement to subscribe and check out Skillshare courses, - Offering a free trial for Skillshare. Made with HARPA AI

Oh yes, please, more videos about Adobe Firefly🔥

Couldn't it allready be done with Stable Diffusion and all of its Extensions, Control Nets, inpainting, LoRas and Checkpoints? 😄 Adobe is just doing it more accessible for none technical people, but you have to pay the price and also you have less control. Nice tutorial 👍

I did all process but i can get final result as u did.

@cravinadventure

12 күн бұрын

Keep trying! Use a better reference image

Thanks for the tutorial!!!

@willpatersondesign

Ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@steventapia_motiondesigner

23 күн бұрын

@@willpatersondesign Awesome!!!

Someone still has to control the interface and the ideas, so all is not lost for designers.

@mxgn0

28 күн бұрын

Lmao

I use photoshop how can I get this done?

I don't know why , but I tried doing this many many times and it doesn't work at all so I thought it doesn't understand what I want to do , so I did this exact same "a" and slime ball and it didn't work either , it just put the "a" in front of the ball , anyone know why this happens ?

@rabiasaif8483

18 күн бұрын

same happened with me :(

@sourodrigoseixas

9 күн бұрын

try without the ball word.

I was here yesterday looking for this tutorial 🎉🎉🎉

@willpatersondesign

Ай бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

@TheTimOlukayodeAjayi

Ай бұрын

@@willpatersondesign Sure. So much value. Thank you for sharing.

🙌🏻

1:09 is tihs a font?

I have tried to replicate what you've done. Somehow it didn't work. I saw you were still using the "green slime ball ...." prompt, and I have moved the visual intensity slider to the least and reference strength to maximum, and I used black M letter with the same proportion, the result was still a ball. I don't how you do it.

@jackychen8045

22 күн бұрын

I tried to recreate it with your 'a' font, and it works. 😂

@mothership7288

8 күн бұрын

@@jackychen8045 liar

i dont know it doesnt work for me, even i have used the same prompts as you.

❤

Everybody is freaking out about AI taking over their jobs, chill out, this is just a tool for us designer, things are changing and we need to follow it's rhythm. Our clients will still need our services because then don't have time to mess around with this stuff. AI is super powerful but will ever need someone to control it.

@thejagman22

6 күн бұрын

Of course what you're saying is correct, we now have no choice but to collaborate with this thing, that's unquestionable. We'd only be making ourselves unemployable if we refused to engage with it. HOWEVER... Any new technology that massively affects productivity in the way that AI does will always lead to fewer people ultimately being required to do the work. It's basic economics - if a job that used to take 3 designers 5 days can now be done by say 1 designer in 2 just days, that means 2 designers are out of a job entirely, and one can only charge for a fraction of the time they could have in the past. Now be honest - is your employer absolutely giddy with excitement when it comes to the topic of AI? Yeah, there's a reason for that, friend - productivity UP, employees required DOWN. Pay less, get more, faster. Go, capitalism! It will also inevitably mean there will be an expectation on those of us that still have jobs to do MORE in LESS time. We were never consulted about any of this, it just 'happened' AND to add insult to injury - our work has probably been used to train various AI models without our consent.

Why is it not working? I followed every single step but it's just not working out :( I honestly love your tutorial and I'm a super experienced designer but it just won't do what I want. I wanna cry :((

@chorypes

24 күн бұрын

Make sure that the used structure reference image is not a png with transparent bg. Background must be solid white.

@chrisstocker

17 күн бұрын

yes a fake video

why can't transform to my structure? what's wrong?

"why is there lemons in the background? I don't know" lool. The potential of AI as a tool is so great

If it’s 3d then rotate it 20 degrees

I did everything u did, and for some reason is not working!! why is that?

@RamadhikaLucky

26 күн бұрын

me tooo

@DOSSmusic

26 күн бұрын

@@RamadhikaLucky I found the answer that he didn’t mention, basically if u insert a logo or text, make sure that the image you upload is in white background, not as transparent, cus I did it like that and didn’t work, but now is fine ✔️

Yeah... Amazing for everyone not aware of Stable Diffusion, ControlNet, IPAdapter, Img2Img, Inpainting and so on and so forth......

Firefly broken not working as intended used, all by credits and the furry ball appeared in the background ignoring the white background prompt is ignored and making the structure reference a a pain solid shape.

Interesting

AI is taking over 😵😵

@__Rizzler__

Ай бұрын

nuh uh. not while im alive

@MathiasNewberry

Ай бұрын

@@__Rizzler__ let’s just see 👀

i hate that you waste a credit with that initial prompt. i wish all the options were there form the start.

AI and designer working together... But not for long 😅

OH MY GOD THIS IS PURE GOLD

AI is actually pushing the need for talent at the moment, because these hyper-realistic images are now being presented to clients as mock-ups and they do not accept anything less quality-wise. Therefore, you are going to need someone highly talented and skilled to create the mock-up and have full control over it, because the client can be specific and that is where AI cannot help. Additionally, AI is terrible at animations at the moment, so if the final requirement is an animated or VFX scene, then 100% you are going to need the right person. In a way, AI is creating more opportunities for talented artists. Speaking from real-world professional work experience.

i thought you were talking about illustrator 😅

FYI: Krea ai is better than Kive ai

woops wrong firefly video

@Sodium779

23 күн бұрын

Waiting for Adobe Ruan Mei

you don't need Adobe for this

Adobe makes you agree that the results are not for commercial purposes so the information at 11:00 feels a bit misleading.

@TheDrSwank

9 күн бұрын

You’re alleging that it’s illegal to use it for commercial purposes?

it doesn´t work

Nobody: I want to make 3D art but I have no will to learn. 2024 Creative industry: let's make it so people want to learn new workflows and invest time in understanding a machine trained on their own previous and current work instead of giving them educational tools to learn new actual real software with which they can push further the boundries art and creativity. Must be fun for this companies to try and "democratise" an industry built on diveristiy, originality, talent and loads of skills by standardizing results and making the basic (but today hella praised) act of having an idea the only valuable thing in the creative process. Because why not ? people don't care about skills and crafts anymore anyways ahah I advice the new generations of designers to approach this things as what they are, tools for art directors, not actual substitutes for your beautiful hands and brains.

Where can i find a similar font to the used for "A"?

INVOKE AI !!!! Stay opensource !!!

It’s crazy how everyone complains about AI. It’s like people are in love with doing tons of manual work hours rather than being more productive while failing quickly and iterating quickly to create something beautiful and useful.

@thejagman22

6 күн бұрын

No, not "in love with doing tons of manual work", there's no question that AI makes things easier in many ways for designers - The problem is that if something that used to take hours or maybe days is now virtually instantaneous, then that kind of work inevitably will require fewer designers. Hell, even the average Joe can get pretty good results from just messing around. Now at first that might sound like a good thing, productive even, but the reality is that if a job that used to take 3 designers 5 days can now be done by 1 designer in 2 just days, that means 2 designers are out of a job entirely, and one can only charge for a fraction of the time they could have in the past (hey, that's the reason 'big business' loves AI, because they can PAY much less for much more - yay, capitalism!). It will also inevitably mean there will be an expectation to do MORE in LESS time. So yes, we as designers feel massively cheated by the introduction of AI, because it WILL affect our careers and our money. On top of that all that, we were never consulted about any of this, it just 'happened' AND to add insult to injury - our work has probably been used to train various AI models without our consent. Think of it this way: it would be like someone had trained all their life to be a baker, learning the craft of making quality bread, getting up early every morning and opening a bakery and selling bread to the public. But then one day, without warning - reasonably good quality bread starts to spontaneously fall from the sky every morning as if by magic! All you gotta do is just go gather up your choice of bread for free... Now let me ask you this - you still gonna buy the man's bread? You think anyone else will? That's how we're feeling right now about AI.

@cmbazinet

6 күн бұрын

It's crazy how no one wants to put in the effort and learn how to do anything themselves these days.

@Thinkinghurts

5 күн бұрын

As a designer, I've always relied on automation to speed up my work. Automation has been around and many of our tools before and now have always been used to help with creative digital ideas or manual. It was possible that we could have chosen to be consulted, however; we all have shared data freely in our social apps since day one. This shift toward embracing innovation and technology has been happening for a long time. If people chose to not learn from the past and stick to old ways, then yes, some jobs might become obsolete as they have in other tech leap years. But as a designer, my focus is on solving problems with information, testing ideas, and using insights from data to drive better outcomes. I'm here to learn, solve, and share creative solutions, whether they're financial or personal projects. What’s the point of being creative if you can’t innovate? Think differently.

@thejagman22

5 күн бұрын

@@Thinkinghurts And precisely none of that will matter one bit if our industry finds that it can now do without YOUR services based on this seismic shift in automation. Someone elsewhere said, “Many portrait artists suddenly found themselves out of work with the advent of photography, but artists over time shifted towards the abstract or Impressionism and art has continued on regardless." - this is true of course, but how much do you think all of the professional portrait painters who found themselves suddenly out of work cared about “art on the whole continuing” when they themselves were suddenly unable to put bread on the table, due to photography being faster and cheaper? This is THAT kind of seismic shift, maybe even greater. How much will you care about the industry continuing on in some capacity, if you yourself are unemployed?

@Thinkinghurts

5 күн бұрын

@@thejagman22 by thinking differently growing my skill and knowledge so when it does take over my job I can be of value rather than replaced value. If your worth is by how many hours you are putting into any project then you are doing it wrong. It should be by your expertise and ability to understand what is viable, desirable and feasible.

Until AI kicks us out of the jobs, let's just be self-content and call it "it's just a tool" 😅

I guess I’ll quit being a designer or artist now, goodbye y’all

@ciphermkiii

Ай бұрын

Why not embrace it and adapt rather than giving up? I’ve been around about 4 decades and can’t say I’m loving the current development but I’ll be damned if I’m going to get bullied out of what I love because of a development I don’t fully agree with.

@joseph-the-seventh

22 күн бұрын

Designer aren’t going anywhere. These image generators are fun to play with but there’s very little room for editing. Take this 3D render-style image, for example. If Will was paid by a client to create this image, it’s very likely that they would ask him for revisions after the initial design is presented to the client. If this image was created in Blender or Cinema 4D, a designer could change the camera angle, lighting, texture, etc. This is a super important part of the process. With AI you are rolling the dice and are left with a static image that’s not editable.

@Gary_DeAfrique

15 күн бұрын

Over the past 20+ years as being a designer, I’ve learned even if people can do it themselves, they are still too lazy. And getting clients is to explain exactly what they want, I think AI is in for some frustration with humans 😄. Never give up, embrace it, it’s a great tool for us.

@buckycore

13 күн бұрын

I just use them as springboards. No differently than hunting around online and coming up with ideas. I think it's kinda childish and ignorant of people to think that this is going to "take our jobs away" Luddites have a closed mind in understanding how progress works, and how new technology workato our advantage. Think about how many more books were published when the printing press came about. And think how even more with digital fonts. And think about all the old school designers who used xacto blades, photos and colored gels to do visual design when Adobe came with photoshop and illustrator. And I'll assume these are the tools you use, yet that's ok because it's beem accepted for over 40 years. And some badass stuff came about that took design to a whole new level. so: people who adapt to the changes survive and thrive, and those who fall into oblivion are the ones screaming "WELL, I guess there's no point anymore"

AI hasnt repalced designers...yet. This stuff is getting so easy even the dumbest of dumass clients will be able to do it all themseves very soon. They'll need taste of course, but AI will probably help them with that too soon enough.

The script is so sus, was this a paid promotion?

@willpatersondesign

8 күн бұрын

No script. No payment from Adobe.

@NeroSaysNo

8 күн бұрын

@@willpatersondesign ah shucks Will, well i hope they get around to it. 😉

Absolutely does not work. Its just creates a ball of fur in the background. I meticulously followed this tutorial.

@willpatersondesign

16 күн бұрын

It works for me - but I'll check it out to make sure it continues to work for everyone else.

We (creatives) have paid adobe monthly subscriptions over the past decade so they could develop tools to replace us. Thanks AI and Adobe, you are sh*t.

@re.d.studio

28 күн бұрын

AI is a tool, not an overlord. You need to fear humans who use it, not AI itself. Humans will never be replaced, AI will always need something from us.

@Martijnwinters

26 күн бұрын

@@re.d.studio it’s so not true that ai won’t replace humans. It’s their whole business model.

Those "mockups" are honeslty bad. They LOOK fake as f&":K. So far, maybe in a few months it will look good. Right now it looks trash.

Or… you could hire a real 3D artist instead of using a program that is trying to make them moot. And they generally are not expensive to hire so the argument of “good for small businesses with a budget” is ridiculous. It's like when you see a really bad sign design above a near empty shop and the owner goes “did it myself” instead of taking the time to hire someone who knows what they are doing and will help increase revenue by bringing in customers. I feel bad for my friends, who are 3D artists already working in industry at minimum wage and struggling to get better or more 3D modeling jobs because of how competitive the industry is. This further shoves their degrees in the toilet, and in a few years, things like this will remove the need for their jobs all together. I wish visual AI never existed so the hundreds of thousands of debt accumulated by getting a college degree was worth it

@willpatersondesign

Ай бұрын

I get what you're saying. I feel sorry for those typographers who used the letterpress.

@re.d.studio

28 күн бұрын

Hiring someone for doing something you could reasonably do yourself just so "their industry stays alive" or something like that makes next to no practical sense. You said yourself that your friends are struggling to human competition, not AI. If you do any real research, your fears may not be as probable as you might think. Humans will never be replaced, AI will always need something from us.

@NomadicSims

28 күн бұрын

@@re.d.studio that is such an insanely naive thought and I envy that. If you replace humans in an already tough to get into industry, you further remove any chance of career. And to think AI will not replace humans, it already is. Just look at how people are using it to generate instead of hiring photographers for mockups or commercial use. That will cut into the industry and create less opportunity.

@re.d.studio

28 күн бұрын

@@NomadicSims Even photographers themselves use ai. Along with video editors, sound designers, and all kinds of other professions that many believe will erase humans still need overseeing. True, data management, calculation, large language processing and the like, computation handles well enough that it needs little assistance from us. How counterintuitive it would be to offer a service that replaces the very people Adobe hires! If anything, if used right, ai will help these industries rather than harm them. And "Team Human" is still going strong. Photography is expected to grow 4% in the next decade.

@NomadicSims

27 күн бұрын

@@re.d.studio oh how I truly envy your naivety! You seem to think AI is done growing, silly person. It isn’t. The sheer amount it has developed within a year has gone from “unrealistic and uncanny valley hell” to “oh no this video tricked millions”. Imagine what will happen in another year, and the one after that? Human art and creativity will be replaced, as we are already seeing occur, in lieu of cheaper and less effort products. And in doing so will remove entire swaths of industries, until all thats needed is an idiotic prompter without an iota of skill or talent. Humans are self-destructive creatures. If it’s counterintuitive you can be assured it will occur. Especially if some big shot thinks they can save some money to fill their own pockets.

Adobe are developing themselves out of business 😂 once designers are out of work because AI has replaced them and any talentless Joe can just write a prompt, who is going to buy their ridiculously priced products?

No no no no no not working.Not interested in skill stare not is this is how bad they are. Not working at all. Please dont try this tutorial. You will waste all of your time.

Oh yay, yet another content creator normalising this exploitative adobe product. Adobe hides behinds these claims of Firefly being ethical, but its all bullshi as people couldnt even opt of of the training. Gross.

Wow such skill, much impressed. 🥱