I pray that one day the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox churches will reunite, their liturgies are so beautiful as well as the people. Through the prayers of Holy Trinity may we be united one day!!

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

Their iconography too is beautiful!

@gerardgrywacheski1418

2 жыл бұрын

@@Patristix Agreed!!

@alexjoneschannel

Жыл бұрын

We need Terra-Florence to be ratified

@KB-eb8dj

Жыл бұрын

Amen ✝️🇦🇲

@oliverbezeg5432

Жыл бұрын

Prey for the Western and Eastern churches reunite like before was in the schism.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Proud to be Ethiopian Oriental Orthodox Tewahedo Chrstian❤

Thank you for not forgetting your Oriental Orthodox brothers and sisters

I can happily say that we in the oriental Orthodox Church sees that there actually is no difference except definition of word in saint Cyril’s work. And that we now have patriarchs and metropolitans that is highly educated in the Greek Aramaic and Hebrew language and is working towards reunion with the Eastern Orthodox Church ♥️☦️🙏🏽

I’m oriental orthodox, much love 🙏🏻 Love the sweater 😊

Greetings from coptic oriental orthodox, much love 🕊🤍 Really like the sweater ❤

@Patristix

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate that! It's a pretty comfy sweater

"....but there is another." I love it. ☦️🙏🏿❤️ Great sweater. 1 point for Grandma.

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, mate! Will tell her the sweater is appreciated

@FatherAndTeacherTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Patristix Maybe she can make me 1 someday. 😉

Coptic Orthodox here! Unity is very possible. Please read the common statement of Orthodoxy between the Eastern and Oriental signed in 1990. We recognize each other as orthodox!

Oh my God! You linked one of Jonathan Pageau’s Ethiopia series video!! I honestly didn't see that coming 🤯 How is it possible that someone can fall in love with a KZread channel in 10 mins though? 🤣🤣 I'm so so SO looking forward to more updates! I have a feeling this channel is gonna be epic and I'll be here, telling everyone I was here before 1k subscribers!

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

You're very kind! Thanks for subscribing and for the support! Hoping the links will help people that want extra research. We'll keep putting them in ;)

love from India, from Antiochian Jacobite Syrian Church... Kerala

Amen amen, I pray for unity also considering how close everything is! Then, next in line, the Church of the East! They lost their iconography under persecution, except for the Cross (which, along with the Gospel book, is displayed and venerated in the same way) and they value it so much so that the Cross is considered a sacrament, but, anyway, we'll see. Their new Patriarch is the perfect candidate for getting the discussion going!

I was just about to comment on your first video that you left out the OO Church...And then I saw this video! Thanks for this!

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers! I think it ended up working better like this, with a second video. Thanks for watching!

La découverte de la semaine. Cette chaîne est incroyable

This really is a wonderful KZread channel. God bless.

Love your fluency and Sherlock like manner ! Very useful for people who don’t like lengthy videos 🙏🏻😇

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Sherlock comparison!! And thanks for watching!

Hey Rooibos tea! That's the tea of my country, South Africa 😉Reformed Baptist over here really enjoying learning more about the Eastern Orthodox Church and church history in general. Thanks for this engaging and thought-provoking content Stephan! 🙏

Brilliant series! And I did notice the sweater immediately

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

I'll let her know! Thanks for watching!

Praise be to your grandma for that sweater. I could not imagine wearing a sweater in May but I think May is a different climate in your neck of the woods in May.

You missed to mention about the Church of the East, which [copying Wikipedia], "was part of the Great Church, shared communion with those in the Roman Empire until the Council of Ephesus condemned Nestorius in 431. Supporters of Nestorius took refuge in Sasanian Persia, where the Church refused to condemn Nestorius and became accused of Nestorianism, a heresy incorrectly attributed to Nestorius. It was therefore called the Nestorian Church by all the other Eastern churches, both Chalcedonian and non-Chalcedonian, and by the Western Church. ... Between the 9th and 14th centuries, it represented the world's largest Christian denomination in terms of geographical extent. It established dioceses and communities stretching from the Mediterranean Sea and today's Iraq and Iran, to India (the Saint Thomas Syrian Christians of Kerala), the Mongol kingdoms in Central Asia, and China during the Tang dynasty (7th-9th centuries). In the 13th and 14th centuries, the church experienced a final period of expansion under the Mongol Empire, where influential Church of the East clergy sat in the Mongol court." I belong to the Saint Thomas Syrian Christians from India, a community that was originally part of the Church of the East, and got eventually split into many churches (including Eastern Catholic, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian Church of the East and Anglican communion). Note that your video also has an error: the 'Malankara Orthodox Church (India)' that you mention at 1:50 was established only in 1665, marking the introduction of Oriental Orthodoxy in India, in communion with the Syriac Orthodox Church at Antioch. From the 1st century to the 16th century, only the Church of the East existed in India.

So this is my cup of tea... :-)

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, my friend!

Thank You My Brothers!!!

Great work

It would be a wonderful blessing if the OO church reunited with the Orthodox church. However, it must be in accordance with the truth and the acceptance of the 4th+ ecumenical councils.

I was admiring the sweater (I knit, so I notice sweaters)

Oriental Orthodox are our brothers in Christ, I don't see any difference or disagreements with them. Eastern Orthodox/Oriental Orthodox, we're one branch, like twins really, I love their churches and the people are wonderful. Even if an "official" union never comes to fruition, in the hearts of the faithful we're already together.

@Peginafication

2 жыл бұрын

Amen! Very well put. I'm in the Oriental orthodox church and feel the same about our eastern orthodox twin. God bless you

@soare5182

Жыл бұрын

The difference and disagreement is that they don't acknowledge the full humanity of Christ, only the deity one. That's a pretty subtle difference but very dangerous.

@clipaqua8848

Жыл бұрын

@@soare5182 if you go to any oo mass, you will see the full acknowledgement of the humanity of Christ. thats how I knew it was a dishonest accusation on the OO

@tomaspeter9540

11 ай бұрын

@@soare5182 Well healing takes time. As he mentioned there was a clear misunderstanding between the two churches for more than 15 hundred years. You can't undo that overnight. There are ongoing talks to solve the problem and God willing we will see a fruit in our life time.

@Lawrence-Gabriel

10 ай бұрын

​@@soare5182 "Amen. Amen. Amen. I believe, I believe, I believe and confess to the last breath; that this is the Life-giving Body that Your Only-Begotten Son, our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ took from our lady, the lady of us all, the holy Mother of God, Saint Mary. He made It One with His divinity without mingling, without confusion, and without alteration. He witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate. He gave It up for us upon the holy wood of the cross, of His own will, for us all. Truly, I believe that His divinity parted not from His humanity for a single moment nor a twinkling of an eye; given for us for salvation, remission of sins and eternal life to those who partake of Him. I believe, I believe, I believe that this is so in truth. Amen." - St. Basil Liturgy We read this at the end of every liturgy. "The difference and disagreement is that they don't acknowledge the full humanity of Christ, only the deity one. That's a pretty subtle difference but very dangerous." Idk brother I just can't see how what you're saying can be true from what we read in every liturgy.

God willing! AMEN

Yes I do realize that they are relatively small do to intense persecution but they were once the largest, in terms of geography, branch of Christianity..from Mesopotamia to eastern China and some say beyond..they need our payers, they've had a long road to hoe even until, especially in recent times..they may only be 400, 000+ strong but that is still rather good once people realize what they've endured..there use to be over a million in Baghdad alone..now 400k on planet earth..when I think of the branches of Christianity I generally think: protestantism (although lovingly I don't consider them Christians), Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy and......the Assyrian Church of the East..yes, they are small, but shouldn't be forgotten.

U should do one on the Assyrian church of the east cause they are the last branch of the apostolic churches im a catechumen in the antiochian Orthodox diocese of north America

Thank you I am Oriental Orthodox☦.

Armenia missed the Council because of a huge war against Persia and therefore they are seen as Oriental but it's all mainly semantics, Oriental doesn't mean a different theology.

Rooibos tea. Hey I also drink rooibos tea. It's native to my country

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

You're from South Africa? Thank you for sharing rooibos with the world! It's a great relaxing tea for evenings

Perhaps a less glaring omission would be the (Assyrian) Church of the East. Another separate branch of Eastern Christianity, but prior to Chalcedon.

@andrewrobinson8367

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's worth remembering that these Church history videos are focused on introducing topics to people who haven't had any background in it beyond the bare basics. It serves as a good warm up for people who are hungry to look further but doesn't get too tied up on every detail.

@Patristix

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinson8367 True! Otherwise I think we could get to several dozen addendum videos in very short time 😆

@yanalbertoagudelo9687

Жыл бұрын

Glad you pointed it out. I'm happy that the Oriental Orthodox church is starting to be recognized more in Christian videos on KZread, but yeah the Assyrian Church of the East is still pretty much a ghost for anyone that doesn't search for them.

@travishardesty1005

Жыл бұрын

It would make for an interesting topic.. these different groups. My immediate thought was, why leave out the first people of 'The Way" ? the Jewish believers of course. now known to identify as 'Messianic Judaism' in Acts known as 'The Way' They suffered much upon Constantinople's declaration that functionally interrupted their presence for 1600 years? Just a thought...

@froge4300

Ай бұрын

@@travishardesty1005 jewish believers are also known as "Christians" (just like gentile believers) and examples of those are St Paul or St Peter "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28)

You forgot the church of the East or the nestorian church the first division

Then you have the fifth branch: the tiny Church of the East (which only recognizes the first two ecumenical councils) and its even tinier schismatic groups. It is all that remains of the Sasanian Empire's state church, and considers NESTORIUS to be a saint.

@reidmartin6209

2 ай бұрын

Have they held to his heresy or have they moved towards a more traditional understanding? The most famous representative would be Mar Mari Emmanuel, who regardless of your opinion, you have to admit is a saintly man after the knife attack and his response. I haven't spent the time to research it, but from what I've heard they venerate Nestorius but I don't see them saying things like "God was not crucified" or "Mary is not the mother of God" which you would expect from Nestorians.

Well there is even a fourth the Assyrian Church of the East

What about the church of the east? They broke away before Oriental Orthodox

also church of the east

Armenia 2023- 95% Christian 95% Armenian 🇦🇲✝️🇦🇲

And then there's the other other branch ancient church of the east family

Woops! We forgot the Orientals!