Much happier when this Chanel actually made some chips. This new workshop is just one big advert in my opinion. Bring back the old stuff.

I didn't realise they still did infomercials

@garrettmoxley4108

Жыл бұрын

“But wait there’s more”

@andrewterry8092

Жыл бұрын

Adam is the reincarnation of Ron Popeil, remember the Ronco Rotisserie on late night TV?

@realfixesrealproblemssewel82

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha it's getting a bit ridiculous now all those really expensive machines that hardly any of us could dream of owning and you are not even wearing the paint off any of them

More adds than the Super Bowl on this one

I think the real proof will be how many videos we see going forward where Abom actually uses this tool.

@jerrylondon2388

Жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone really expects to see that. Probably yet another unboxing video!

@paulcopeland9035

Жыл бұрын

He has been using it for a couple of weeks on Facebook.

@gregfeneis609

Жыл бұрын

This is likely sponsored content, so there's likely already an agreement in place on the (minimum?) number of videos we'll be seeing with these vise jaws prominently shown

When are you going to make something Adam? You could literally build anything that you wanted with the machinery and workshop you have! It would be a crying shame not to make some awesome stuff

Give me a break! Yet another unboxing video! When was the last time Abom did production work needing repeatability? See Hand Tool Rescue break down and rebuild a Fractal Vise. Much more enlightening.

@CullenLorsung42

Жыл бұрын

"another great addition to the shop"

Would be interesting to test with an indicator how repeatable the part position is

@Phyde4ux

Жыл бұрын

You're asking the question we were all thinking. If you have one machined side among multiple parts, I imagine you could lock down that half and get some reasonable repeatability. I wanted to se him run a mic across that second part to see how close to parallel it was to the machine.

@3-body-problem

Жыл бұрын

Yup... We're all thinking it. It almost seems like the vice section needs to be on a lockable rotating base.

@JimWhitaker

Жыл бұрын

For repeatability, might you want an end stop in place?

@Ashjuk

Жыл бұрын

From what I saw I would say not that accurate. Good for a one-off operation, but not for a batch in my mind.

@vasyapupken

Жыл бұрын

it's not made for any kind of repeatability )) it's for holding odd shapes for quick jobs. if you want repeatability on odd parts then mill yourself a set of soft jaws.

An interesting device. They list the price on their site for the bundle you showed at $7700. Parts are very pricey as well. Hard to justify this for that price. Seems like a similar idea to a fractal vice.

@Bluswede

Жыл бұрын

Ding! I immediately thought of a fractal vise. I can see where this would be more useful in a production environment, though. You could bump the part around and get it to indicate true along a given axis before locking it down tight...then bust out 50 parts. I don't think you can lock down a fractal vise... Plus there are a bunch of chip-magnet crevices just waiting to cause trouble!

@ericgoldman7533

Жыл бұрын

I don't know, that sounds like a pretty reasonable price for a precision tool/instrument that is meant to last.

@Ropetangler

Жыл бұрын

I would have been interested to see how true the features on the second workpiece were when it was locked down, and how repeatable the that trueness was when removing and replacing parts on a production run

@rutgerhoutdijk3547

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluswede If you're doing large scale production, wouldn't it make more sense to make a custom jig for each part?

@asakayosapro

Жыл бұрын

I guess it’ll depend on the production volume (for CNC, anyway) Round 20 to 100 of the same part for a one time production run? Not worth the jig, but this finger vise will come handy. 250-1000 of a part that may possibly be produced again another time? Jigs, hands down, both for making the raw stock and for the actual machining of the parts. Naturally this will vary according to need, tooling available and budget, so these are just my two cents.

reminds me of the "fractal vice" that hand tool rescue restored last year. very cool concept with both vices

@boothbytcd6011

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but waaaay more simple mechanically than that system was.

@HyperactiveNeuron

Жыл бұрын

It's their version of the fractal vice. Old idea reborn but maybe tweeked enough to not infringe

That is a sweet vise. I must say every time I see you start a socket cap with that impact driver I get a shiver.

I saw a similar system for hydraulic turning-chucks years ago, not sure how good it worked. But this here is really well designed, i like the "parallels" - feature. Good product!

I have been eyeing these for a minute. Glad you did a review. Oddly enough, this is NOT a new idea. Hand Tool Rescue did a restoration of a fractal vise a year or so back, and while the mechanism is different the idea is identical.

@bendingsands87

Жыл бұрын

The channel "make everything" just released a video of him fixing up a similar vise to this one that uses small ball bearings behind the fingers to help them conform to shapes. It's pretty cool.

@winklethrall2636

Жыл бұрын

@@bendingsands87 I recently saw that same video, where the ball bearings equalized the force between the segments.

So impressed by the adjustable clamping of unparallel objects surfaces.

That is really cool. It looks like it indexes and holds odd shapes at the same time so that multiple parts can be machined one after the other with out re-fixturing. Nice. Expensive but nice. Adaptix should appreciate the way you rep their product. Great job.

It didn't click with me until you showed taking the part out and putting it back in. The repeatability for irregular parts like this is so cool!

The Adaptix vise oozes quality. A very impressive piece of kit.

Put an indicator on the end of that second piece and see how repeatable the placement is...

wow.....your industry has some of the coolest tools and parts! very cool

That's a pretty sweet setup there. The possibilities are endless.

That soft-jaw system looks awesome!

An incredible evolution of the fractal vise, very cool

@ricksosbee3913

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen hand tool rescues channel fractal vise restoration?

Brilliant ! Love watching Adam walk us through many things.

You definitely get some really cool stuff I can see where that would come in handy as for cleaning up I’m sure if you are in a production run the coolant and air would help. If I had one I would definitely put it through its paces

Works just like the old antique fractal vise. Pretty cool!!!

I've seen these or something like them on Instagram ads. I've always wondered how machined surfaces fare in those after they've been clamped onto those steel pins. Can't wait to see you put them to use. 🙂

Very useful, especially in a mechanical application with vehicle parts.

Please bring back the videos of you actually working on things.

Seems like it is best suited for CNC work. Others have questioned the ease of aligning critical features to an axis. I can see that being tricky on a conventional mill. With CNC, you can just indicate the location of two features and the tool paths can be adjusted by the software to match the alignment. You don't even need to worry about repeating the setup for a new batch next month. Just set the first part, indicate its position, and off you go.

Quite interesting application.Thank you for sharing.

Отличное приспособление для крепления деталей с фасонной поверхностью!👍👍👍

This kind of "adaptive" vise is something I have seen very old versions of, but the exact setup with the straight bars I have not seen before.

Adam are you related to Ron Popeil by any chance ?

@spikeypineapple552

Жыл бұрын

lmao

@andrewterry8092

Жыл бұрын

Either Ron Popeil or Billy Mays from OxyClean.

wow, this will be a nice addition to the shop though the price will be out of reach for many small / home shops. $7000!!! 🙀

@jerrylondon2388

Жыл бұрын

Just click your heels together 3 times! I need a new vise, I need a new vise, I need a new vise! Wasn't that easy? Now for the CNC machine...... But you'll have to settle for a used fork lift, can't work miracles! Sorry!

@HM-Projects

Жыл бұрын

@@jerrylondon2388 😂 or ask Abom for his when he gets bored of it.

@jerrylondon2388

Жыл бұрын

@HM I think the forklift was for Abby! Giggle, Giggle, snort, snort, cute! At least he got a NEW battery, really sweating that one knowing how tight money is. Have I told you about supporting me on Patreon...........

I can see many car part needing to be in that fixture. Thanks for sharing.

That's a pretty slick vise jaw I did some billing years ago when I worked for one place I haven't done it in forever but that would have been nice

Nice jaws. Hope they clean out pretty easy after use. I got a lot of Wera tools. Great quality tools.

Reminds me of an old fractal vice I saw on another KZread restoration channel who's name I forget.

I miss seeing the photo of you, your grandpa, and your dad. This is the first time you didn't include them that I've seen, and I've watched you grow for years. Great content Adam, keep it up!

Very neat system. I noticed that when clamping the sliding jaws on your second part that the upper surfaces of the part were not parallel to the X axis of the table. The irregular part was firmly held but if there are features that need to align with the machine axes there may be additional setup steps to indicate and bump your part into alignment before locking the sliding jaws.

@chainspending6343

Жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly

Nice system with lots of moving parts. It looks like it's made for a clean and careful machinist. No dead-blow hammers allowed with that pristine setup. I would like to see their repeatability of the setup with an indicator.

Showed up "5 minutes ago" and there's already 469 views! Amazing. Thanks, Adam. I very much enjoy all your videos!

I use the great granndad to this vise on my Carlton radial arm drill. It works good. Mine is more convenient to use since it does not require tools to adjust. I would not think it to have the positional repeatability to do part to part and be within .001" but you could probably get within .010"

@jimad

Жыл бұрын

Brian - could you post a short video of that on your channel? :-)

That’s awesome thanks for sharing

Great solution for a common problem!!!

@paulbeijer341

Жыл бұрын

Looks more like a solution looking for a problem to me.

That is a great set up .

yeah but how are you getting the part trammed in?

Indicate a piece in, then remove and replace to check how accurate it is.

That's pretty neat, nice going

looks nice! but will we ever get to see all of the "new" machines and things do actual work?

@slavikspakoina

Жыл бұрын

Maybe when he realizes the channel is going downhill fast and needs to get the attention of the people again with the content that made the channel big.

@clintbonnett3449

Жыл бұрын

@@slavikspakoina Couldn't agree more.

@jonesywebbles3708

Жыл бұрын

Come on Adam, starting cutting chips

@davehiggsinson2973

Жыл бұрын

Go watch Curtis from CEE in Australia Adam your channel used to be good to watch but you seem to be becoming a shop window for new machines and tools

Cool Vise. Very similar to a Fractal Vise designed about 100 yrs. ago.

Ive seen this idea before on a couple different sources, but this looks like a much more refined version for precision machine work. This idea is also used in a much cruder form for profiling areas to cut and fit for things like wood trim, flooring etc. -

That is a really neat vice, I can see a lot of potential for the unit in a CNC production shop. c

I was wondering why no one did manufacture fractal vices anymore. Not wondering no more. Cool piece.

Adam you need to check out your buddy Eric's channel (hand tool rescue) where he restores a very old version of one of these adaptable vises by a company called Mantle and Co from the 20s. Each jaw had 15 individual swiveling pieces with a total of 30. Its amazing how what you bought has roots and inspiration from a century ago.

@JohnBare747

Жыл бұрын

Nothing really New under the sun they say.

OMG..those jaws are $7K....that's crazy

@faustinpippin9208

Жыл бұрын

lol that's like a 2 year salary in my country

@themechanic6117

Жыл бұрын

That's crazy , on the high side I expected this to cost around $1500

@canonicaltom

Жыл бұрын

Since you already need a Kurt... $7K is an awful lot of soft jaws

@seancollins9745

Жыл бұрын

@@canonicaltom Spindle time is worth about $100 hr, it's actually a pretty good deal

@spikeypineapple552

Жыл бұрын

@@seancollins9745 Sure, if there wasn't an industry accepted, cheaper, quicker, more process reliable and more accurate alternative. Put it like this: if they were good value for money, they'd be everywhere. The fact I've never seen them in any shop says more than this ever could.

This makes me think of all of those times you've had to clamp things like carburetors to do broken screw extraction.

Awesome tool right there

Very cool vise!

that would be a good thing for the CNC machine

That's quite a neat way to clamp parts with unusual shapes. Can't help but wonder it the fingers will apply the same pressure on each area of the same shape with a standard tolerance or if they will need to be loosened, adjusted, and re-torqued for each part?

Must touch.

Really handy and useful

It's a new version of the old fractal vise but the old one didn't need all the setup and torquing.

Useful in a multi run parts job but the swarf will build up. Shame it won't be used to what it is ment for.

Those are really nice and American made

An awesome piece of equipment. But i guess it would cost more than my whole workshop. haha. Regards. Steve.

Way cool especially for parts that require custom fixtures. The repeatability is fantastic, but for $6,000 - it had better be.

@bobcarlson7729

Жыл бұрын

can buy a lot of soft jaws for 6,000

@floodo1

Жыл бұрын

$6,000 wouldn’t take too much time savings from not having to make soft jaws to pan out over a year or three

@helplmchoking

Жыл бұрын

@@ptv1250 I guess it depends on the shop. If you're regularly dealing with odd shaped parts that are always different, these could make sense. Like if you deal with a lot of repair/replacement jobs on customer components. If you do anything more in bulk, or you tend to have orders for a few of one part with a bunch of components you do regularly, then yeah machining your own soft jaws makes sense so you build up a bit of a library

@xxn0cturn3xx

Жыл бұрын

pocket change for a company that makes thousands per year, you all talk like these tools are made for the average joe.

@spikeypineapple552

Жыл бұрын

@@xxn0cturn3xx As a machining business owner, there's investing in the right tools, and there's flushing money. Most owners are going to want to buy 2x double station orange vices with 10 soft jaws over this.

Wow that’s super cool.

It kind of reminds me of the Fractal Vise that Hand Tool Rescue restored a while back. A very similar, but more modernized version.

Can I ask what sort of work you going to do on the flex cnc 👍

@bulfin21

Жыл бұрын

None whatsoever, its all about the money!

@Hasenfeffer1

Жыл бұрын

^^^agreed^^^. It’s just a dust collector at this point.

@andrewterry8092

Жыл бұрын

A question I would expect Flexarm to ask prior to delivery...

Interesting setup. My doubt is that if you need to align a pre machined feature likte the holes in the last piece you've put in the vice how are you going to be sure that those holes ale lined up with , for example the x axis? I think for that purpose a pocket in soft jaws or a fixture plate with some pins would be much more repeatable.

I like it. Great video.

That setup looks good. Have you ever seen a setup that has a chamber behind the fingers half filled with mini ball bearings that move allowing the fingers to self align? Flip a lever and they return to the start position. There's also an 1800's fractal self aligning unit that can hold an egg or crush square tubing. Mesmerizing to watch it work. If you ever want to challenge your skills... Make one.

Really interesting and useful, thanks Adam 👍🇬🇧

I don't know if I would ever machine enough standard soft jaws to balance that price-tag (I could buy 9 more Kurt DX6's for that much) but they are cool. All the money aside, what would be really cool would be a cam plugin for Fusion360 where you could put a pin in the chuck of a CNC and it would bump each jaw into place based on the geometry of a second op part shape. It might open another market for them since this has no rotational accuracy when forming itself to a part. More of a NYC-CNC thing for John maybe.

@MaxNippard

Жыл бұрын

Good idea. I would love to see someone make a powered version. Like the flying sliders sound recording desks used to have

That’s super fucking cool! It would be so useful! Thanks for sharing!

This looks like a really useful system. It's pricey, but if you deal with a lot of irregular shaped work pieces in a production shop, not having to make and switch out custom jigs nearly as often could save a tremendous amount of time. It's probably not terribly cost effective for a home shop though.

@douro20

Жыл бұрын

Those things make Erowa stuff look cheap!

@helplmchoking

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if I regularly dealt with the same components I'd probably invest some time in building a library of custom fixtures to have at the ready. But if the jobs are super varied and it's rare to get the same exact job repeatedly then this could definitely save some time

@shawnlund

Жыл бұрын

How would you ever know the parts orientation? There is zero ability to properly orientate the part in the vice.

@erikmewes6428

Жыл бұрын

Build one similar, looks to be doable in a home shop. Not even too hard to use existing vise and remove the jaws. This system isn't new !!! Also, why did they make the clamping portion so high off of the vise table. Creates a very large moment.

@arimunic

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnlund If you have a pre-machined part you could set up the jaws to hold it, then tram the entire vice into position off the part. Doing that, you'll have a repeatable, oriented setup.

Interesting tool and will be useful with odd ball jobs. I wonder if there is a way to integrate the torque requirement in to the nut to tighten the moving fingers. That way you wouldn’t have to have a torque wrench, just grab a regular wrench to tighten then the nut slips when it is to the correct value.

Saves you from having to make a custom machining fixture at least. I used to work in a different part of Norgren, weird to see the logo on KZread.

I have zero need for such a thing but, its frigging cool

I would like to see a measurement what the part does in z-direction once the whole thing is tightened down.

One of the best in a long time

I saw a fractal vise years ago beautiful piece of equipment :) best wishes :)

Most excellent.

We have this adaptix vise at our shop, and dont like them. Not worth the investment

Interesting device. Basically a beefed-up countour gauge. I wonder how much force it can apply before risking failure, though.

Interesting system! How do you ensure that the centreline or previously machined features of a part remain parallel to the X axis if required ?

Those are Slick 💯💯💯

I can see where that would very useful!

Nice!!! and exciting new.

Hand tool restoration restored the grandfather to that vice

Pretty cool tools. I'd be interested to see how it deals with an oddball piece that has a definite axis or centerline and how you make sure that axis is aligned with the axis of the mill.

@LeglessWonder

Жыл бұрын

Would there be any difference?

@josephcote6120

Жыл бұрын

@@LeglessWonder Maybe. Say you need to widen a slot in a part, the axis of the slot should line up with the axis of the machine.

@Kenionatus

Жыл бұрын

Guess you could indicate in the entire vice (measuring the feature on the part).

@shawnlund

Жыл бұрын

This vice does not allow you to know the true orientation of the part. It’s not meant for doing machine work on oddly shaped parts.

@canonicaltom

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnlund What exactly is it for then?

I love learning. So the half sphere has its rounded side pushing into the work-facing component, and the flat side pressed against the sloped face of the hook that's bolted to the clamp, or part of the moving block that slides in the clamp, to provide both inward work-holding force, and downward press-jaws-to-reference-surface force, through a single point of contact against the inside of the jaw? This explains why my dad was so insistent about never leaving things sitting against that bottom surface in the throat, or sitting on the tail behind the moving jaw.

THANKS ADAM

That is a cool tool.

Nice, very nice!!!

Those jaws are pretty cool Adam...I keep wondering where you are going with the new shop, are you planning on doing production runs in the future?.

That Adaptix setup is absolutely trick, without a doubt! But as others have said... at $7k+, I am clearly not the target market. Killer idea, though!

I think that the gloves are to stop the machines getting dirty? Awesome showroom though

I watched a video on KZread restoring a vice that had a compartment full of tiny (1/32") ball bearings in a light oil behind each jaw and when you tightened the vise the balls let the fingers take the shape of the part being clamped, far simpler and probably a lot cheaper than that very expensive kit