Adam Smith INSISTS The Casual Fan Wants Fury vs AJ, But TRUE Boxing Fans CRAVE Fury vs Usyk 2! 👀🔥
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Tyson Fury and Oleksander Usyk are set for rematch in October. talkSPORT Boxing's Jim White and Simon Jordan discuss alongside Adam Smith.
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I want Usyk to demand a 70/30 pay split, then get "injured" 3 weeks out, then retire.
@willevalle9371
24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@cha9165
24 күн бұрын
😂😂
@vincentserrano1595
24 күн бұрын
@@cha9165 Top comment
@geraintroberts4611
24 күн бұрын
I would pay the box office fee just to see that lol
@TranscendentalDentist
24 күн бұрын
70% and a caravan, and tarmac for his drive. 👍
I am a boxing fan. I loved watching Usyk Fury, although it was well overdue. Do I want to see them fight each other again. No. I want to see Fury get KO'd by AJ.
@oluwadamilareajayi5546
24 күн бұрын
right on
@themarkdoubleu
24 күн бұрын
I don't think it'll be quite that clean-cut 😂 I do, however, fancy AJ in that match-up. AJ has performed better against the guys they've both been in with (let's not count the MMA guy), but that only speaks to how devastating AJ can be. Fury is a tricky animal, and he's incredibly clever inside the ring. Landing on Fury isn't as easy as landing on, for instance, Wallin. That said... Wilder put Fury down hard. Wilder isn't the boxer AJ is. I also don't think he has the power AJ has. If AJ were to get that clean a hit on Fury that'll be all she wrote.
@otisdeayala7399
24 күн бұрын
Wallin literally landed heavily frequently on Fury. Fury's defense is so so overrated considering how many times he touches the canvas against less than stellar opposition, in his prime years aswell. @themarkdoubleu
@donn-nd3bs
24 күн бұрын
Fury will KO AJ more like
@user-oz7jn2kg5p
24 күн бұрын
100 percent! I’ve watched boxing all my life so I don’t consider myself a ‘casual fan’, what a load of tripe to come from that pen pusher, fans know what they want to see and fans make the money for these events.
Casual fans want Fury v AJ? Do we f***! We want to see John the fighting man Fury v Joe Egan.
@marcust123
24 күн бұрын
Joe egans a clown after a payday the guys broke ffs he lost to a guy who was on a 20 loss streak lmao
@SaiSaiGre
24 күн бұрын
As the self appointed president of the casuals, I approve this message
@199019852007
24 күн бұрын
Instant classic
@TranscendentalDentist
24 күн бұрын
@@marcust123 I informed Joe about your comment. He told me to ask for your address.
@TranscendentalDentist
24 күн бұрын
@@SaiSaiGre Thank you, President. I am humbled by your presence.
Simon talking without saying anything of any substance.
@redblacktichy7713
24 күн бұрын
That is why we like him❤
@kezvez
24 күн бұрын
That’s why they pay him the big bucks
@DARRENKAIRNS-fv7yl
24 күн бұрын
He can't cut through his own nonsense
@AlTarif
24 күн бұрын
@@DARRENKAIRNS-fv7yl 🤣
@Michael-yh5ec
24 күн бұрын
He is a Oueer
No, we've had Fury v Usyk. The UK needs Fury v Joshua; if they can't be the best in the world let's at least find out which of them is the best in the UK!
@rickunknown5744
24 күн бұрын
Casual 😂
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
Joshua got humiliated by Usyk twice despite using dirty tactics and corrupt judges. Fury can beat Usyk in the rematch and become 3 times😂
@RaseYourProbs
17 күн бұрын
I'm not British so i cannot understand the demand for fury vs AJ.... i genuinely believe dubois is the better choice to fight AJ right now.... fury is every bit on usyk's level, the fight proved.... and if i was British I'd back fury to win tje rematch....
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
17 күн бұрын
@@RaseYourProbs Millions of Anthony Joshua fanboys hate Fury and don't want him to surpass AJ. Most of them are from Nigeria or Nigerian decent people living in the UK. It's a matter of national pride/loyalty for them
Simon Jordan still can’t get over it.
@harrisonmonte-carlo8779
24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@Sean-pm3vd
24 күн бұрын
Only problem with Simon is he talks down too people unless they are foot perfect lol I think if I was down pub with him it would end up in a scrap😅😅😅
@ChampChamp2024
24 күн бұрын
@@Sean-pm3vd agreed
@thomascooper1144
24 күн бұрын
Man really thought the Fury that beat Wilder was good enough to defeat Uysk… 😭😆
@Sean-pm3vd
24 күн бұрын
@@ChampChamp2024 😄 I mean he was saying too Frank Warren the otherday your boy this your boy that about tyson I mean come on is that respect too a top world class sportsman no it ain't he needs a lil cheeky slap lol
Disagree. The true Fans wants AJ - Fury, simply because if Fury fight Usyk again, whether he will win or lose, he will just retire. And we already see Usyk - Fury.
@redblacktichy7713
24 күн бұрын
Fury vs AJ Usyk vs Hrgovic first, then the winners with each others
@RevealedFilms
24 күн бұрын
@@redblacktichy7713Hrgovic is a quicker Pulev
@redblacktichy7713
24 күн бұрын
@@RevealedFilms Hrgovis is an underestimated fighter, his problem that he didn't find his fighting style yet
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl
24 күн бұрын
@@redblacktichy7713 Hrgovic is a bum. Lost to Zhang but was gifted the decision.
lol never heard as much garbage as SJ comes out with. He was adamant that fury would win and only now is he giving usyk credence, SJ never gave Usyk credit for beating AJ he just said AJ is no good. SJ even continued to suck up to fury even though they banned him from going to the event. SJ gutted about that by the way.
Happy new year everyone 🥳💥
@UncleBurntApostrophe
24 күн бұрын
Fury was certainly doing the auld lang syne in round 9😆
@adzm1987
24 күн бұрын
Off down the tip with the Xmas tree 🎄 😂😂😂
@adzm1987
24 күн бұрын
@@UncleBurntApostrophe hearing those midnight bells 🔔 😂
@UncleBurntApostrophe
24 күн бұрын
@@adzm1987 😂
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
Happy Mexican New Year to Anthony Joshua's damaged chin. Ruiz gave him a concussion and made him forgot last 4 rounds😂
Bodybuilder vs Battered Sausage 😂 let's go
@CarlCampbellMusic
24 күн бұрын
☠️
@Energyceo
24 күн бұрын
Why do people violate fighters for losing to one of the greatest boxers of all time. People just hate for no reason because they’ve achieved nothing themselves. Pure jealousy 😂😂😂. (Incoming “bet you’re fun at parties” comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
Glass jaw Quitter Joshua Vs Undisputed challenger Fury😂
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
These are Anthony Joshua's Nigerian fanboys hating on Fury
@Life-of6hk
23 күн бұрын
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Fury fan? Usyk will beat Fury in the rematch, then all of your tears will dry up
That's it Usyks let's him, personally I feel Usyks has done what he needed and should now retire 😮
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
Usyk humiliated Anthony Joshua twice. He should give Fury a rematch. If Fury beats him, there should be a trilogy😂
Both fighters deserve all the praise!!!
Drivel, Usyk - Fury is done, he was robbed by a biased judge of unanimous, and the ref for meddling and getting in the way of a decisive knockout. AJ v Fury is what needs to happen, perhaps AJ can shut him up for good.
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
Glenn Feldman robbed Usyk of unanimous decision win against Anthony Joshua. The ref saved Anthony Joshua in the third round against Ruiz and tried to save him again in the 7th round by giving him 28-second count 😂
I want Usyk to retire. I don't need to see another fight from him. Fury vs AJ is closure for the division and proves 2nd best of this era.
@stephenhoward4540
24 күн бұрын
I'm sure that's a joke right? Usyk has gone out and unified two weight divisions. Did what he said he was going to do while his country is the underdog in a war. He's a amazing fighter and would like to see him do it all again. And it won't be closure because it's a fight. Any fighters you could have fight 10 times and come out a number of different results. Fury and usyk are the top two another fight or two to settle it. And in the meantime A J Vs Parker because that boy is a different animal today and so is A.J
@tomjones9934
24 күн бұрын
It has to be a joke, we had closure Saturday night
@lukesablade
24 күн бұрын
@@stephenhoward4540it’s already been settled.
@ShannonDavis-eq4fj
24 күн бұрын
He sure does cry every time he's hit below the head 😭
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma
24 күн бұрын
Anthony Joshua fanboys are praying for Usyk to retire. Last month they wanted Usyk to fight Anthony Joshua for the third time😂
I don’t know many true fans who crave Usyk fury 2. Usyk is 37 and is already slowing down and Usyk won 7 rounds to Fury’s 5 and almost knocked him out. We’ve had the fight and Usyk won clearly. These rematch clauses are holding the division back.
@lordfarquard9902
24 күн бұрын
Exactly! I suppose one way to look at it is does Fury deserve the rematch as much as AJ did when he fought usyk? It’s up for debate for real!
@Elnont
24 күн бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902 in my opinion no. AJ clearly underestimated Usyk but Fury knew exactly what he was getting into. Fury was arguably in the shape of his life and lot of people believed that Usyk could win. When Usyk beat Joshua for the first time a lot of people thought Usyk wasn’t that effective at heavyweight.
@agnikaineverdies7646
24 күн бұрын
Usyk was the one who fought for there to be a rematch clause in the contract so he only has himself to blame, a rematch is happening like it or not
@SurreyBasements1
24 күн бұрын
@@agnikaineverdies7646I’m fairly sure it was Fury insisting on a rematch clause
“I vill not leave you alone!!.. Domorrow!!!!”
@harrisonmonte-carlo8779
24 күн бұрын
Don't vee afraaaid!!!
@r.suryan
24 күн бұрын
Derek.... I'm coming for youuuu.. derekk..... 😂😂 *while canoeing in a lake*
I hope Usyk retires. Nothing more to achieve.
AJ was not good enough nor was TF but AJ beats TF at this period of there Carrer .TF will never fight AJ he can't afford to lose that one so he won't take the fight .
@theallmightycraig69
24 күн бұрын
Agreed. 5 years ago it would have been competitive. Now AJ stops him in 6.
@Joelfreedom4
24 күн бұрын
@@theallmightycraig69You really think so? Idk if its clear-cut cause Fury still has quicker hands and better footwork than AJ. Idk It’s def a tough one. But worse case scenario is we may actually never see this match up.
@revo1974
24 күн бұрын
Those 3 fights with Wilder took some out of Fury, out of both of them. AJ’s jaws is no less suspect. Fury could land a good shot and hurt AJ and he will turn into a pussy cat. Fury had Usyk hurt a few times. That’s why he kept fighting the way he did, he was hoping to just keep winning rounds and eventually land something that would put Usyk down. If he would have let his hands go more he may very well won the fight. AJ on the other never had Usyk hurt or down on the cards. I will say this, AJ looked like he had gotten his confidence back. And that was before he KO’d Ngannou.
@theallmightycraig69
24 күн бұрын
@@Joelfreedom4 what I saw last weekend with usyk softening furys body, i just kept thinking imagine if that's AJ cracking him to the body. Between that and AJ's counter punching, I Can see him breaking fury down and catching him.
@victorduru4822
24 күн бұрын
@revo1974 you clearly watched ice hockey instead of AJ vs Usyk 2. Usyk was ready to be knocked out but AJ couldn't get him out and was gassed in the 10th. But Fury fan boys like you still buy the hoax that Fury is some great boxer. Yet lost to Ngannou 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
True boxing fan don’t want Usyk v fury 2. We want Usyk to retire cause we know he gave fury a one side whooping and it’ll be the same. True boxing fans want Fury v AJ
@M-yz3mm
24 күн бұрын
Totally clueless 🤡
@kennywilkinson913
24 күн бұрын
Overnight fanboy alert
@onuchinathaniel9368
24 күн бұрын
@@M-yz3mm: You said @MichaelPhilps-vs9it is clueless. I don't think so. I disagree with the title. Boxing doesn't start and end in the UK. I wonder what he means by casuals. Instead of saying Fury's praise singers and UK fans with wounded egos want to see the rematch like next week. Yes the belts are on line in a rematch, but the boxing world NOW wants to see Fury vs AJ. The world is watching too. After all, AJ and Fury have now lost to Usyk. We all saw the arrogance of the Fury family, and his numerous sycophants. The belts became a source of embarassment in their custody. Ducking, snubbing, talking carelessly and cherry picking opponents. He says things like if defeats Usyk the rabbit, he doesn't need to fight AJ, bla bla bla.......... He cut his eyes to even delay the fight. The world is not stupid. Turki Alal-sheik knows the British people like money a lot, and uses it to somewhat carry out his fantasies and in some sense to even ridicule the so called boxing authorities and the logical order. When the Ngannou rumour came up, it sounded like a joke at first, but he made it happen. They said it was mere entertainment, before we knew it, Ngannou had another shot at AJ. That's straight to the top. When money talks, bullshit happens. I even see the Fury vs AJ fight happening instead of the rematch. He threw 100million each at the Usyk fight. He can throw 200mil or more, if necessary to circumvent the rematch. The money calls the shot. The Saudi prince from his interview also wants the Fury vs AJ fight as soon as can be feasible.
@joshladd5073
24 күн бұрын
Wasn’t one sided at all but ok
@Samanthabrown1496
24 күн бұрын
What a load of crap
Usyk was strategic, he let Fury work in the 4th 5th 6th and gain confidence, he threw arm punches and Usyk looped his shots on counter, gave Fury 4 5 6, he survived 10 11 12.
@delgriffithification
24 күн бұрын
Yeah I spotted that, he let him uppercut him and evade all his shots to get him tired didn't he? He's a genius.
@redordead4491
24 күн бұрын
@@delgriffithification Usyk undisputed x2! Yes 🤪
@maodijong3661
24 күн бұрын
Yep, did the same to Bellew all those years ago too. The only fighter that truly almost had him, imo probably a draw was Breidis. Dubois gets points for almost getting the KO.
There’ll be no appetite from ‘Bricktop’ to get his cash-cow in with Joshua. No way Fury survives a barrage of clean shots from AJ
@jamesfraser1340
24 күн бұрын
Fury ruins aj
@biggerissues6085
24 күн бұрын
@@jamesfraser1340Didn't you insist he'd do the same to Usyk?
@lordfarquard9902
24 күн бұрын
AJ isn’t Usyk. He’s a robot!
@oibab1475
24 күн бұрын
The only way AJ beats Fury is if his chin has actually gone. I can see Fury taking the piss for 6/7 rounds and AJ knocking him out when Fury gets too comfortable, as he always seems to do...
@user-nn2xj4es8k
24 күн бұрын
@@biggerissues6085Usyk is a different ball game to AJ usyk is another level to aj fury done better in one fight with usyk than aj done in two fights
It’s ridiculous there’s a rematch. It was pretty conclusive. Tyson was saved by the referee 👍
@EggBoxingFactoryManager
24 күн бұрын
It’s a rematch clause usyk wanted.
@T3akkeydhd
24 күн бұрын
@@EggBoxingFactoryManagerTyson did actually
@BobbyDaz
24 күн бұрын
Joshua Usyk 1 didn't warrant a rematch. Neither did Fury Wilder 2, AJ vs Ruiz 1, and plenty more high profile fights. It's called business.
@tomthumb2062
24 күн бұрын
I disagree, the real boxing fan wants AJ and Fluffy.. We want to see Fluffy get floored again
@blewis1733
24 күн бұрын
It was a split decision 😂
I could happyily watch Usyk beat fury for… 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 before wanting someone else to then go and beat him first 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 we are all "casual fans" who know as much shite as the next numpty.
Strange how no one in KZread's boxing comment sections are able to admit it was a fairly close fight. You're all a bit odd aren't you?
@royboxing5421
24 күн бұрын
I agree, Usyk obviously won, but he looked uncomfortable at certain points. A rematch is very warrented imo
I argued 3 years ago he wasn’t too small, I would love to talk to those people again lol
Casual fans buy ppv, “true fans” pirate them
@jmp0428
24 күн бұрын
If they dont make money, wouldn't that kill the sport? You're assuming others will take the burden of paying so you can watch for free! Not cool.
@willevalle9371
24 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@cha9165
24 күн бұрын
😂
@lordfarquard9902
24 күн бұрын
@@jmp0428Turki has got a bit of spare money mate, a few hundred trillion at least! 😂
@LunaticTheCat
17 күн бұрын
Honestly, if the fignts big enough I'll pay for the PPV just because I want to be able to watch it in 4k.
When Usyk wins again, only more ferociously I can’t wait to hear Jordan’s excuses for Fury. Definitely want Usyk to run rings round him again. The I’d love to see AJ destroy Fury and finish his career off for good.
Would like to see some more heavyweights coming threw
Winner of Fury Vs Usyk 2 vs winner of IBF title DDD/Hrgovic vs Joshua means we get undisputed all over again. Thats why true boxing fans want this because it keeps the prestige of the title rather than the names. Plus that's 4 more men who get a chance to make history so why not!?
@scottyc6341
24 күн бұрын
The only flaw in this plan, is that by the time this fight takes place another belt will have been stripped/vacated for failing to defend mandatory challengers.
@donttouchyerbumnsniffit
24 күн бұрын
Parker will probably be due a shot for the WBO Belt by the time all that happens unless he loses in the meantime. Not sure what his next move will be but would be good to see him fight Kabayel. Both men are in the form of their life! 🥊🔥
@meme4013
24 күн бұрын
You lot are desperate to shield AJ from Wilder lol.
@j2thebee
24 күн бұрын
who cares who wins the IBF title? We all know now who the real champion is
Usyk is one of the greats.. Olympic Gold then notable wins over Hunter, Briedis, Gassiev, Bellew, Joshua, Fury..
@RBC0405
24 күн бұрын
Best resume of any fighter of this era.
I'm a casual fan and I don't want AJ and Fury next, I want the rematch so what's he on about?
Joshua Vs Hrgovic for IBF in September. Joe Parker also expects to fight a bigger boxer in September or October. To be announced in 2 weeks.
Talksport looking like proper mugs after saturday. Simon, GAD and Spencer should all stop talking about boxing.
@i.m1981
24 күн бұрын
I agree about GAD, but same as you, everyone is allowed an opinion. I don't get why people give predictions tho, they mean nothing and often make themselves look silly.
@hustler666100
24 күн бұрын
but ur a casual
@hearmenow909
24 күн бұрын
@@hustler666100 What's wrong with being a 'casual' boxing fan?
@hustler666100
24 күн бұрын
@@hearmenow909 Nothing, but to assume someone should stop talking about boxing becaise they got a prediction wrong on a close fight is silly. Casuals dont tend to really understand the intricacies of boxing and its scoring system. Ive heard people say Usyk battered Tyson. On the eye test I'd agree but when you look at punches thrown,, effective punches thrown, ring control, punches blocked, the round scoring system in general, etc it was a close fight.
There should never be 4 belts should be a clearly defined gold belt and perhaps another belt that makes you first in line for the gold belt
Not at all, by consensus who ever wins the rematch will still be undisputed It’s like how David Haye was considered undisputed cruiserweight champion because he fought Mormeck and won and Mormeck was previously undisputed but vacated one of his belts to fight David Haye The same thing with Calzaghe who was considered undisputed despite not having every belt
@ChampChamp2024
24 күн бұрын
No it won’t haha Usyk is undisputed, if fury somehow manages to win he won’t be no matter what.
@RevealedFilms
24 күн бұрын
How without the belts! Hopefully the judge doesn’t step in this time and Fury gets KO’d. Then all his cheerleaders will be forever silenced.
@hearmenow909
24 күн бұрын
If fury was to win the rematch he would claim he's undisputed champion, even though he wont be because one belt will be missing. Just like he claimed to be the lineal champion when he wasn't. Just like he claimed the belts AJ won were his because he once held them.
@j2thebee
24 күн бұрын
@@RevealedFilms because undisputed doesnt mean having 4 belts it means that there's no question who is the champion of which now there isnt.
@baronmunchausen908
24 күн бұрын
@j2thebee no, you're wrong. By the time the rematch happens, there will be another IBF champion. This means that whoever wins the rematch will be unified, but no undesputed champion
How can Simon say that this is the first time fury has faced adversity, are we forgetting he was depressed and sucidal and about 26 stone before he climbed off the couch to box the head off wilder and get a draw that should of been a victory? Its an absolute disgrace the way people have been bashing fury, made heavyweight boxing entertaining again and was considered a hero and because he realised how fickle boxing fans are he stopped dancing to the tune of the public people have turned on him. Usyk is a class act and deserved the victory but fury is a legend who despite his mental troubles has given boxing fans some amazing nights. To be honest it’s quite obvious there’s more to the backlash than meets the eye.
Great to see Adam on the road to recovery, a big compliment to the health services in Cambodia.
Tyson Fury was never a generational great unlike Usyk.
@user-nn2xj4es8k
24 күн бұрын
I think he’s done the best so far though out of all the heavyweights
Is that a new record? The shortest amount of time any heavyweight boxer has held all 4 belts. Less than a week? All that build up for a unified heavyweight clash, ( which passed my expectations) the first in 25 years, and now the IBF have taken their belt away from Usyk.
We’ve all been waiting for AJ vs Fury LONG before usyk! Let’s get this fight over the line before it’s too late!
If you close your eyes and walk around a supermarket and hear smith talking at the meat counter you will automatically think BOXING
Boxing finishing for good would be the best thing that could happen to the sport
Regardless of what the fans want.. what we will get is Fury v Usyk 2 and it's a great fight.. A.J should go fight Wilder after Wilder KO's Zhang.. A.J v Wilder is a fun fight and would have an amazing build up..
@baldersn4474
24 күн бұрын
Lol Wilder 😆 Wikders awful ffs had his head caved in by Parker
@SurreyBasements1
24 күн бұрын
Wilder ain’t knocking out Zhang! 😂
The conman Fury has been exposed one of the best weeks in boxing.
@marcust123
24 күн бұрын
Exposed? It was a very close fight what did usyk expose ?
Aj will end him differently hence the years of ducking n excuses😂
Speaking facts the casuals are out in force asking for fury vs aj because they know it was such a close fight between fury and usyk the rematch needs to happen and aj needs to step up and earn his shot
@lloydc1092
24 күн бұрын
Behave yourself! We’ve been wanting AJ vs fury fight long before usyk! CASUAL.
@marcust123
24 күн бұрын
@@lloydc1092 aj ducked him tho didnt he and then aj went and lost to the fat mexican and then to usyk twice your the casual fan who adam smith is referring to you casual
@PorschaTaylor-tc4gx
24 күн бұрын
@@lloydc1092aj ducked fury remeber and also lost 3 fights so it wasnt as big of a fight it could of been
I want the rematch but not sure Fury does at the moment.
It has to be Fury v Uysk 2
I had no idea Adam Smith worked in both boxing and Clarkson’s Farm
TNT should hire Adam Smith as their lead commentator.
Joshua and Fury thought Usyk would be easy pickings. He beat em both. Time AJ and Fury stopped swerving and get it on. Usyk awaits
Tell us something we haven’t heard a thousand times already
Thanks talksport
Was a fury fan , got tired of his chat this last 2 years , wanted usyk to win .however , fury will fight out of his skin in a rematch , i dont think its an easy usyk win . Tyson has what it takes still
Why could real fans want a part 2 Fury vs Usyk when it was not even Ben a close fight. Josh vs Fury is a more even fight, so it makes more sense
Rubbish! Usyk beat Fury fair and square. He KOd the man and the ref saved him. Even one of the judges attempted to steal the win from Usyk and give it to Fury. Usyk beat AJ and beat Fury. He is the guy at the crescent of the heavyweights and should now retire and go down in history as the best heavyweight to ever do it. Retire undefeated after cleaning out the devision, fighting the most skilled guys in the devision, 40lbs heavier than himself. Real fans of boxing will understand that we just witnessed history and a rematch will only potentially undo what Usyk spent his life working hard to achieve. He's done it. He completed the game. Beat the final boss. Fury vs AJ is a great fight and when Usyk retires, the devision opens up again for more great heavyweight battles from all the top 10 competitors.
Other way round actually. Id much rather see Joshua beat fury then usyk beat fury again
I'd prefere Fury AJ. If Fury gets done again, he's retiring. Better fight AJ at Wembley for the battle of Britain
Fury doesn't want AJ just like he didn't want Usyk. He knows he's a threat, now more than ever. It's why he teased him with potential fights only to pull out. Was meant to fight him before fighting Wilder a third time and was meant to fight him 2 Decembers ago only to bring out a random deadline. Losing to AJ would absolutely be the final nail in the coffin of his legacy.
Fury gor batterrd no excuses
Usysk does what he always does, he wears hos opponents down in the earlier rounds with his footwork etc making fighters work twice as hard then in championship rounds Usysk always goes up a gear...Plus his engine and chin is amazing and he hasnt abused his body over the years like Fury has.
What were people watching
Furys punch resistance has gone. I'm sure his wife will be begging him to retire, as he took over 10 clear shots to the head and sent round the ring like a spinning top! Those punches from Wilder have left their mark. Never was he in that state with all the knockdowns with Wilder. If he carries on he could end up like Ali.
@MrErnestCC
24 күн бұрын
He's hardly had any fights, but has been hit alot yes
@J-lh5dc
24 күн бұрын
Did you not see the left and right usyk hit fury with in 9th. I'm surprised he was even standing. Wasn't like he got hit by a Jab. He was knackered, should have better fitness in the rematch
Each of the four Sanctioning Bodies are worth less than £10m each, why doesn't Turki just buy them all out and create one in it's place?
@jamesfraser1340
24 күн бұрын
Who told you that rubbish
Very little praise for the amazing ability and heart for Fury to survive the 9th round and somehow come out and get it together in the 10th and make it competitive in last rounds.
The Americans would argue that boxing is in great shape.
I don't know the ins and outs of rematch clauses but I hope Usyk shoves it right up Fury in the contract negotiations..
People don't mention the fact AJ fought Usyk 3 years ago, a reason I'm sure played into Fury messing him around for 2 years hoping he was on the downhill slightly. The guy is a machine but he isn't getting any younger & has a lot of miles on the clock from the amateurs
I dont think Fury will fight agsin. His legacy is alreasy questionable. If he fights a rematch and loses again his legacy becomes even more questionable. If he loses again to Usyk and then gives the causals their wish to fight AJ and loses there. Its now a forgettable career.
Its ridiculous theres that many belts in the 1st place,,everyone knows who is heavyweight champion,and it aint the chancer whos ending up with the ibf belt
@paultaylor9498
24 күн бұрын
You support a foreigner over a British fighter.
@davehoward22
24 күн бұрын
@@paultaylor9498 I allways support the british fighter,and whats that gotta do with anything? Beating usyk is how to become champion,not fighting for one of his taken off him belts
@paultaylor9498
24 күн бұрын
@davehoward22 doesn't sound like it to me
@davehoward22
24 күн бұрын
@@paultaylor9498 ? What me saying fighting for usyks cast offs being ridiculous has anything top do with me not supporting british fighters ive no idea.
@paultaylor9498
24 күн бұрын
@@davehoward22 read it wrong then
Now we have multiple undisputed champs create the lineal belt or crown, whatever in each division as the man. Keep the other belts if you want but to be the true world champ you have to beat the man, incase of a retirement you have a tournament👊🏼🇬🇧
The fight needs to be in Britain as I never got the buzz being in the mute Saudi Arabia crowd ,they both don't need the Money so fight in Britain, more atmosphere here .
I want Usyk vs Hrgović, AJ vs Wilder and Fury vs Zhang.
Simon ‘outcome’ Jordan
Should be 1 belt only world champion belt that way you get tru top 20 heavyweight s fighting each other
Hold on, but wasn’t Simon one of those very same people that said AJ got beat by a cruiserweight, and was mocking it? Hypocrisy at its finest
Boxing is broken. Need to get rid of rounds system, or at least re-work it into 15x 2 mins rounds, and give more points for a knockdown, and judges need to give more 10-10 rounds if it's a close round. Should mean more action and the right winner being announced more regularly. All the different belts is interesting, I like multiple champions, adds more jeopardy to the champion vs champion showdown. Perhaps a Super Championship could be given to those who hold multiple belts (or the most), to give more lustre to a single champ. But Turkiy is right, system needs tweaking at least, ideally overhauling.
@Kaiserbill99
24 күн бұрын
Don't like the idea of two minute rounds. Women fight 2 minute rounds and it is just awful. Less time for fighters to apply pressure and stop their opponent. I agree more 10-10 rounds should be scored. Unless it is crystal clear who has won a round then it should be scored as even. Also means poor referees can be exposed more easily as less scope to hide behind subjectivity of scoring. Also agree that fragmented belts is not an issue. The WBC belt has been held hostage by both Wilder and Fury and unified champions Joshua and then Usyk could only defend twice a year at most. Fragmentation means more meaningful fights with something on the line.
@HazardousTrip
24 күн бұрын
@@Kaiserbill99 I just think more rounds, breaking fight down into smaller chunks, makes it easier to score it, and give more action. Not massively against 3 min rounds fwiw, just want them scored properly
Fury will never step in with AJ. Usyk is his last opponent.
Speaking as boxing fan, I’d actually like to see Usyk call it a day. Got nothing to prove, got more money than he can ever spend. Do to fury what fury did to Wlad.
@williamsmith9315
24 күн бұрын
Do you watch any other sports?
@Mike-vi3vn
24 күн бұрын
@@williamsmith9315 yeah
@agnikaineverdies7646
24 күн бұрын
Fury was wladimir’s mandatory so there should never have been a rematch in the first place
I'd say 90% of boxing fans want Fury/AJ over the Usyk rematch
Nothing to do with casual fans the problem is simple Fury = Warren AJ = Hearn Luckily Usyk has honest people around him
SIMPLE SIMON AGAIN....WHO DID MIKE TYSON AVENGE HIS LOSS TOO???????
Tyson Fury can't fight Usyk. He's not good enough. There's no point. Fury needs to retire. He's too old and hasn't looked after his body properly. He's been unprofessional his entire career.
True boxing fans understand WHAT Usyk did to beat Fury and reckon there's not much chance those things are going to change in a rematch so want Fury AJ NOW!
Fury gave of his best and it was not good enough. No amount of perfuming the results could change the fact that Fury has lost the competitive edge and he's a tad slower and his reflexes not as sharp. You have to be a casual to think that Fury could win the rematch. Not going to happen and every man and his dog knows it.
@marcust123
24 күн бұрын
It was a very close fight only 13 punches in it between them fury could defo win the rematch if he makes a few adjustments
@louismartin4078
23 күн бұрын
@@marcust123 Who threw and landed more punches? Usyk. Who had more punching power? Usyk. Who was first and more aggressive? Usyk. Who was robbed of a KO in round 9 but for the ropes and referee? Usyk. Looking at the fight astutely, Fury won 4 or 5 rounds max while Usyk won 8 or 7 not forgetting that 10-8 round 9. I won't say that's very close.
It was a close enough fight for the majority to want to see them go at it again in my opinion. Can Fury make adjustments and pull through or will Usyk make adjustments and win with ease?! So many questions need answering.. What a great fight by two warriors. I'd LOVE to run it back. Fury vs AJ bores me for some reason.
No way could fury do any better in a rematch, and if AJ lands clean on fury it’s over, I doubt fury will fight either of them, I predicted usyk to stop fury and think he was robbed of that by the ref, but at least he still won,
@J-lh5dc
24 күн бұрын
Why can't fury do better?. He will be fitter in the second fight for sure if he continues to train.
@mrmoon1482
23 күн бұрын
@@J-lh5dc it won’t happen
even if there is a rematch it won't happen in October. Fury doesn't like to fight more than once every 10 to 12 months, he delayed the Usyk fight before the cut, then he got cut, and finally had to fight Usyk. I don't think we see the rematch this side of christmas if it happens. Usyk will want to make decisions of his own too. He's 38 next birthday, done everything, is now P4P king, undefeated, so if i were him i'd bow out at the absolute top and let the others squabble over the belts again. i think fury should retire too, he's shot. The punch resistance has gone and his work rate has dipped a lot. He looked good in rounds but he couldn't sustain anything for more than half a round and had to rest/ wrestle. If Joshua hits Fury he's out before he hits the floor. fury's been shot since the last wilder fight (wilder too) so i don't think it's worth the risk to his health any more.
BOTH should take place. Aside from Usyk who's dodged nothing and just fearlessly waltzed in and beat up everyone in the land of the giants, I've never known such a group of fight dodgers in all my life. The size of 'em too-you think they'd have a set of balls to match.
Fury's corner was a mess with his dad there shouting over Sugar.
@aah7806
24 күн бұрын
Why not both? Why not Fury face AJ, and then the winner dukes it out with Usyk? Best of both worlds there. The losers fight to get second place, whilst Usyk gets his much-needed rest.
No, we want AJ vs Fury as a final eliminator for the Usyk rematch.
Tyson has proven what he is capable of against Usyk. Now he needs to prove what he can do against AJ.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Usyk retire. Boxing fans and casuals wanna see both not one or the other.
Eddie just doesn’t have a horse in the race
How come we haven't heard Usyk tell us he's lineal champion?
Guess I'm a TRUE boxing fan 😅👍
3 ,4,5,6,and 7......uysk 1 .8.9 10.11 and 12. Plus knockdown. Round 2 was even.
Ye 2 many belts , but turki basically said on the mma hour with ariel that he aint in this for long time , its a hobby for this guy just dont knacker boxing with all this money plz
True boxing fans want to see AJ vs Fury. Casuals want to see AJ vs Fury. Let's make it happen