This is how its done. Informative and know exactly what is going on. Good Job here brother!

You can also use 05-12' Acura RL calipers with adapter brackets to fit the nuckle.

Nicely done Ping! You are going to love the brakes on track I sure enjoyed the improvement on mine.

This is probably the most informative video I've ever seen.

Such a good video you should get more views!

I don't even own a Honda, but this was hugely educational regardless, thanks Ping.

@josephyang8236

4 жыл бұрын

About time you own one.

@patrick.drives8730

4 жыл бұрын

@@josephyang8236 lemme drive yours at the track just to make sure I know what im getting into

I really enjoyed watching this video. I have been looking around the internet and I think there might be an even better OEM BBK Option. I have seen the Honda Odyssey community use a similar Genesis Brembo setup using a MDX rotor. So it might be possible to use the 07-13 MDX Caliper with the Nissan rotor. I think this would result in a powerful braking setup without the need for large/wide aftermarket wheels OR fancy adapters.

if you dont want to upgrade to a 5 stud hub, put MG zs180 disks on, they are 282mm 4x100 and the zs was based off the civic mb.

@ep3dre677

6 ай бұрын

This is good info! Would these be able directly mount into a USDM 2003 Civic EP3 which are 4x100?

@dahotrod1533

6 ай бұрын

@@ep3dre677 I don't know about the ep3 as it has a completely different suspension setup. This theoretically should work on EG, EJ, EH, Ek, MB, domani with double wishbone suspension. To do the conversion you will need disks, caliper and carrier.

@ep3dre677

6 ай бұрын

@@dahotrod1533 thank you for the fast response! Appreciate you!

@dahotrod1533

6 ай бұрын

@@ep3dre677 then again I've seen people use Renault Mégane 1.5dci or mini cooper disks and s2000 caliper an carriers on the MG ZS180 (forbidden British civic) so there's tonnes to experiment with .

Great video fam

10/10 would big brake again

Great info.

VERY nice video :D

That’s dope

I ordered the 12.1 rotors by Wilwood and 6 piston wilwood brake caliper. There incredible. Now if they would only show up. Been waiting on them to be delivered for 3 MONTHS!!!

Can you send a picture how these discs are centered in de caliper? Because if I'm right ep3 hubs flanges are 2/3mm more inward against the caliper. Would like to know if I can get away with it.

What setup would you do for a BBK for a 98 crv need a upgrade, thanks!!!

Would i be able to use the tls rotors with the genesis brembos instead of having to get a hub centric spacer for the rotor and then another hub centric ring to fit my wheels?

Does no one make a 320mm 4x100 rotor that will work and has the correct hub size?

the genesys sedan has a smaaler front brembo caliper with a 320mm stock rotor. has anyone looked to see if these calipers also fit on the hondas?

except a 1999 and 2000 civic si use a civic type r caliper which is bigger and a 262mm rotor

4 piston caliper is the way to go

ayyyy what up ping !?

What wheel sizes and dimensions will work with the genesis calipers? @formuladelta

A quick Q (not for me but for other viewers with similar cars who are interested). What did you do to the brake master cylinder size now that you've gone 35% larger effective piston area from the stock caliper (51mm)? Great content btw!

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

Joseph, stock MC on the vehicle is 13/16” I have gone to the 1” MC from the ITR to compensate for the extra fluid volume needed to work these brakes

@findtherightbeat

2 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG How much heavier was it switching from 4x100 to 5x114.3? Thanks

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

The 5x114 is definitely heavier than the 4x100, but I did not weigh the two. Also got heavier when I went to bigger brakes, and bigger wheels. The good thing is that the car got faster at the track with the bigger brakes, so it’s worth it in the end

will the tls 310mm combo clear a 16x8 +25 rim?

Thank you for all your work puting this info together and showing everything. Great stuff! I have a doubt that I think you can easly clarify: I have a 8th gen Si, and I am considering changing only the rotor to the TSX/Accord one, 300mm 28mm thick, as I dont need more braking power, but just a bit of thermal headroom. Will those fit the calipers straight in? Or will I need to mod them somehow? Main concern is if the calipers have enough clearence for the extra 3mm. Thanks in advance mate. Hope to see more videos in your channel :)

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Paulo, thanks for visiting the channel and subscribing, I would recommend also going to the TSX calipers with the TSX rotors. Technically speaking with some caliper bracket clearancing and used brake pads, you could probably get the TSX rotors to fit with 8th gen Si Calipers. My concern is that the caliper bracket doesnt have enough room for the increased rotor thickness of the TSX. For the cost of the calipers its not really worth this hassle.

@paulo..ferreira

2 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG thanks once more for the info! Sadly here in Brazil it is quite hard to find those calipers. Actually the Acura TSX wasnt even sold here haha. But... I know by looking the specs that some Accords have the same rotors on them, which I can order for a reasonable price. As the rotors on said Accords are the same probably the calipers are also the same, but I am sure it will be hard to find em. I think the number of these cars ever sold in Brazil is less than a month worth of sales in the US...

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulo..ferreira Get the rotors and see it fits your current calipers, if they fit then great! otherwise you can try getting the other calipers!

Hi nice 👍 I have a question The genesis break well fit a honda civic sport sedan 2021 i love the stil look beautifull

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

=) yep they are amazing for the 10th gen civics

👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

What rotors would you re recommend wirh accura rl calipers for the honda 13 exl ty.

Very Iinformative content bro.. Just a quick question... I have a CRV 2000 front knuvkle/spindle on a civic SiR and planning to go big brake set up too.. Was thinking of spoon monoblock but could not find a suitable 300mm Rotors because of the center hub registry issue.. Would like to run on 16 inch wheel though.. Any suggestion mate? Thanks for your help.. All the best.. 👍

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

Yea for CRV hubs you can either machine down the hub register, or machine the brake rotor center to fit the hub. Or look into RSX-S hubs which has a 64.1mm hub register without the step for the brake rotor but still accommodate the 36mm axles

@skotsephrenia1

3 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG thank you mate.. I think machining is the most logical option as it is way much cheaper and less straineous process.. 👍

Nissan 350z brake kit works also 👌

@itsjustWebbie

2 жыл бұрын

Did you have to machine those?

@Gofast1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsjustWebbie - evo brake kit works also 👏

Would you know if the Genesis calipers are compatible with the Civic FN2 Type R?

Can you enlarge the caliper inner diameter vs decreasing the hub?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

You could, but then you would have to do that everytime you change rotors

What are the disadvantages of running a stock Eg prop valve from a car with rear drums, when upgrading to a rear disk conversion?

@exchur1887

Жыл бұрын

I just made the rear disc conversion putting a 260mm rear brake disc and no difference, u might buy the prop valve 40/40 non abs and might see some difference

I’ve got a 2017 civic sport hatch and I’d like to upgrade to bigger brakes. My budget is around 650$ what’s your suggestions? I was thinking the integra dc5r Brembos and s2k rotors

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

Would recommend Genesis Brembos, lots of 10th gen owners going this route

Any rear OEM brake options for honda 5x114 that play nice with 16" alloys?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

The EK9 Type R and DC2R rear brakes have been tested. I havent personally felt the need for bigger rear brakes. May have to look at the Honda SUV, Minivan catalogue for bigger rear brakes

For the 8th gen si and the genesis caliper will the 17 stock rims work and will i need to change brake booster and/or master cylinder… thanks

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

not sure if your stock wheels will work, check out my other video on wheel clearances. MC and booster should work just fine, the brake pedal travel might increase a bit, but that is personal preference, so adjust MC size accordingly.

Hi i have a honda ef 1990 d series engine. Will the dc2 type r nuckle fit so that i can get bigger brakes???thank you

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

I am not entirely sure regarding EF chassis, would be best to check the forums on that one. Good Luck!

I have a 1995 civic EX coupe 1.6L SOHC VTEC, I bought CRV calipers which I believe it is the same as a ITR caliper , 280mm mini rotors, and TSX pads. Do I need to upgrade my Master cylinder or proportioning valve or booster ? I am only upgrading the front calipers for now and leaving my Stock rear drum brakes . I would appreciate your help please and thank you.

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

If you are leaving the rears as drums then there’s no need to change the proportioning valve. As for the MC and booster, it is more of a personal preference, going to a bigger MC will decrease the amount of line pressure for the same pedal force input and reduce the amount of pedal travel. If you choose to use the existing MC the pedal travel will be longer with the ITR calipers. If you go to a bigger MC (7/8”, 15/16” or 1”) there will be less pedal travel. Bigger booster will give you more vacuum assist, effectively reducing the amount of pedal force you need to generate the same line pressure. Do you prefer a heavier or lighter brake pedal? Do you prefer more of less pedal travel?

@cashmoneyivan4268

Жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG well now I got to contemplate all those things .😂 I REALLY appreciate your response and the knowledge👍🏼👍🏼

Any thoughts on using 08+ crv calipers (dual piston) and matching rotors?

@FormulaDeltaOG

9 ай бұрын

Dual piston calipers will be an upgrade over their single piston counterparts. Looking at the caliper shows that the mounting bolts are 14mm which means you will need to drill the holes on your knuckles to fit. The rotor is 296mm diameter and 28mm thick which is similar diameter (300mm) as the 8th, 9th Gen Si and TSX, but thicker. So the rotor will have more heat capacity than those previously mentioned rotors. I have not tried to use this combination before so I cannot comment on fitment.

What’s the smallest wheel size to run with the brembo 15/16

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

I think there might be a rare 16" that might clear this, but I never tried it. Even some 17" wont clear this, check out my other video on this subject

Do they make them spacers in 20 m they look amazing what kind are they ..

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

Novustech.ca they are a Canadian Company, they will have Honda fitment which is 64.1mm Center bore

320mm bbk over kill for a street driven eg civic hatch. Anyone run them on a car this light that's gutted?

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

OEM will work just fine for the street, OEM with upgraded pads and rotors will handle spirited driving on the streets, even light track duty will be fine on the OEM DC2R brakes. This is an alternative to other BBKs on the market, whether you are modifying for the aesthetics, braking feel or the performance is up to you

Any issues with pad overhang on the genesis brembos on the rogue rotors? I keep reading about that and it's the only thing really deterring me from putting together a set.

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

Not really, other than a slight step in the pad wear. Would recommend looking at the Sentra SER rotors, which has slightly bigger inside diameter, which gets rid of the inside overhang. Someone on Instagram recommended this option as an alternative to rogue rotors.

@FieldGenEJ

Жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG awesome thanks! Any issues with noise from the brake swap? I've been reading on a forum and there were several complaints about a squealing noise.

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

@@FieldGenEJ That’s more about the brake pad compound selection than the caliper and rotor choice. I know for sure that the Hawk HP+ squeals a lot, by design. Also the very high performance/racing pads might squeal as well, mainly because it’s purely performance oriented and noise is not a consideration during design.

Why not get a 2016 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 GT StopTech rotors? 320mm diameter 28mm thickness 114.3mm mounting bolts 69mm center hole

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

Rotor height is 56.7mm, if you bolt it on then the rotor won’t be cantered in the callipers. This parameter in conjunction with the rotor thickness and the hub mount thickness also has to place the rotor in the center of the calliper to get everything to bolt up

Do you know if theses caliber fit 2020 Acura RDX a-spec ✌️

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

Not 100% sure about the Acura RDX, but there are forum posts about a 2017 Honda Pilot that fit the Genesis Brembos with some bolt bushings because the Genesis Brembos uses 12mm bolts and the Pilot brakes are mounted with 14mm bolts. Not sure if the Pilot and RDX has any similarities in the brakes department

Will genesis brembo fit on 8th civic si?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, they will fit

Can the black brembo from the type r take a smaller rotor disc incase i will have clearance issues? Lets say From a 300mm to a 282mm? Is that possible? Thanks!

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

The limiting factor for wheel clearance is the caliper not the rotor. Reducing the size of the rotor will only increase pad overhang. It will not improve wheel clearance.

@charvlim5159

Жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG right., cause the caliper is the one that sticks out the most from the assembly., got you, Thanks!

Interesting 🤔. I already know about the Budget 280mm Mini Cooper rotor with DC type R calipers on regular DC Integra Knuckles... This got me thinking 🤔.... Could the TSX/ 8th Gen SI 300 mm rotor work in a regular DC Integra knuckle? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Would a regular RSX or RSX Type S Bearing And 5 lug RSX / type S Hub Fit into the DC Integra knuckle and then I could bolt in the TSX brake calipers/brackets to work with the 300 mm rotor??

@FormulaDeltaOG

9 күн бұрын

So the DC2 Integra had 2 knuckle sizes, the DC2R had a bigger wheel bearing which is similar to a CRV Hub/Wheel Bearing where as the other DC2 had a smaller wheel bearing. The RSX-S 5 lug hub will fit into the DC2R knuckle, I have not tried to fit the brake rotors or the calipers from the RSX onto the DC2R but it should fit with some slight potential offset adjustments. I do not think this combination will work for the smaller bearing DC2 knuckles.

@lamesamelame

9 күн бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG Ok.. Looks like my only option is the First Gen CRV knuckles, I haven't been able to find any, USDM or JDM, DC 2 Type R knuckles. The only thing I'm not sure would be the Outer Tie Rod placement for CRV. I will have to get a pair of CRV and try it out. Thanks for the response.

Would this genesis caliper bolt on the same with rotor to a 9th gen?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, currently a bunch of 9th Gen owners are going with the TL-S calipers, but the Genesis brembos are even better

@sikariodelm3korita

3 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG and the genesis caliper is a direct bolt on as well like with the dc ?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

@@sikariodelm3korita if you have a 9th gen it is a direct bolt on with a rotor centering spacer, 64.1mm to 68.0mm

Do you have a link to the type r rotors and pads you’re using?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

Hey John, For pads I used GLOC R12, which I personally find to be quite capable at the track and still be able to drive the car home on the streets, for more aggressive compound try the G16. www.g-locbrakes.com/products/brake-pads/search/?make=Acura For my DC2R setup, I just use Centric Rotors from Rock Auto, they are pretty cheap so replace them whenever you change pads, the part number is 120.40026. www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1280339&cc=1370641&jsn=965&jsn=965&jsn=965

@johnlegg6837

3 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG will those rotors also work for the rear?

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnlegg6837 I actually find the DC2R rear brakes to be more than what I need. Currently using GLOC R10 rear pads and they are a bit too aggressive for me. Should have gone with the GLOC R8 rear pads instead. If you are still 4x100 in the rear then there is the optional disks conversion that came on the EM1 Civic Si (US) or Civic SIR (Canada). For 5x114 you can go with the DC2R or EK9 Rear Disks. I use DC2R rear disks, Centric 120.40042. Rock auto link below www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1279885&cc=1370641&jsn=1329

What brake booster did you use?

@FormulaDeltaOG

10 ай бұрын

DC2R booster

I have a 96-97 spec jdm 4 by 114.3 swap and they do have a b bridge/bracket .

@sherryhilbert7888

Жыл бұрын

Its same 94-01 Acura Integra 32 mm hubs same as the 96 to 00 Honda Civic EX and I believe it's the 90s Prelude si hub 4x114.3 also the Acura ITR use a 32 mm

@Everydayprojects365

Жыл бұрын

@@sherryhilbert7888 yes 🙌🏼 I just upgraded to the 98-01 ITR calipers and I had to use the 96 prelude v-tec rotors 11.1 with the 4 by 114.3 bolt pattern and 96 accord ex rear rotors 10.5 for 15 in wheel.It was a nightmare trying to figure out this conbo.thanks bro

@sherryhilbert7888

Жыл бұрын

@@Everydayprojects365 if you want to upgrade your rear you can add the first-gen ep-3 si you just flipped them upside down on opposite sides so the right side goes on the left side

@Everydayprojects365

Жыл бұрын

@@sherryhilbert7888 would I use the same rotors? How much bigger are the ep3 rears?

@sherryhilbert7888

Жыл бұрын

@@Everydayprojects365 2003 ep si 10.3 in rear

What wheels did you end up getting to fit the brembos?

@FormulaDeltaOG

Жыл бұрын

I ended up going with 720 Form GTF1 17x9 +25 with a 10mm spacer. Other wheels that fit would be the Konig Hypergram or Dekagrams in the 17x9 +25 or the 17X10+18

@Solidsilver5

Жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG awesome thank you. Very helpful 👌

What's a good option if I'm still on the 4x100 gsr hub? I'm looking for an upgrade and get them as big as I can

@FormulaDeltaOG

3 жыл бұрын

DC2R with mini cooper rotors if you are on a budget, otherwise Aftermarket options exist for for 4X100

@slaps101

3 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG first gen crv calipers also work with the mini cooper rotors. Both dc2r and crv use the 17CL15VN calipers, obviously crvs are much easier to find in junkyards.

@Escalofrios29

3 жыл бұрын

@@slaps101 I've been seeing some videos about using the Acura RL calipers with re drilled rottors for the 4x100

@freeman8000

2 жыл бұрын

Mini Cooper base model rotors are 4x100, 64.1mm hub, 280mm diameter, and 23mm thickness.... That's basically an 11inch ITR rotor in 4x100

Will the genesis brembo fit 8th Gen civic ?

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, 8th gen Si. Cant confirm on regular 8th gen civic though

@djtorpedo876

2 жыл бұрын

@@FormulaDeltaOG thanks for the info.

What rotor would fit with the rear Brembos of a genesis looking to do this on my rsx base model

@FormulaDeltaOG

10 ай бұрын

just clarifying the question here, are you trying to put the rear Brembo Calipers of a Genesis on the front of your RSX? or on the rear of your RSX?

@saulvazquez8882

10 ай бұрын

Front

@FormulaDeltaOG

10 ай бұрын

It’s not a direct bolt on for the rear Genesis calipers, as the bolt hole spacing doesn’t match up to the RSX upright. You would have to get some kind of custom adapters made to get them to fit. So it can be made to fit around a variety of rotors

@saulvazquez8882

10 ай бұрын

The rear Brembo genesis calipers bolt on with no modification to the front of my RSX . Only thing is I can’t find the right rotors . I’ve tried the Nissan rogue sv and they are too thick

@FormulaDeltaOG

10 ай бұрын

Interesting, never tried to find a rotor that fits the rear Genesis calipers, I would imagine you will need smaller diameter and different offset

dc2 itr brake calipers + mini cooper S slotted rotors + acura tsx 2008 brake pads, would probably cost you less than $300 both sides.

@kirraxinn

2 жыл бұрын

The brackets need to be milled to fit or else rotor rubs bracket. Ask me how I know

For guys who want type R performance and want to stick with 4x100 without upgrading to 5lug, Run 2002-2007 Mini cooper base model rotors (4x100 280mm) Integra Type R calipers and brackets TSX pads

@irvingsalgado7263

2 жыл бұрын

Can I run 14" wheels with this set up?

are the Genesis calipers front or rear?

@FormulaDeltaOG

2 жыл бұрын

Fronts only