totally agree with Seymour. thank you sky news, if this was a NZ media post we wouldn't be allowed to comment.

@lifeliver9000

Ай бұрын

So true,

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

You mean it wouldn’t even be reported on.

@DossNZ

Ай бұрын

No. Just that we are talked at, but can't comment in return.​@giltee626

@62cripple

Ай бұрын

Winston will sort our biased government propaganda MSM, love this government, never thought I'd ever say this about any government....

@Camwin

Ай бұрын

sure you can talk about it. go talk to your friends about it. No one is stopping you

Race based politics have no place in nz one people one country. Why should one race get more than another.

@tomrobinson8593

Ай бұрын

Show, tell where that is happening with your evidence!!

@abeltasman7828

Ай бұрын

There was race based pakeha policy for over a hundred years, get a brain and think

@unSTEVOED

Ай бұрын

@@tomrobinson8593 How about Medical - Preferred treatment you see it advertised on T.V all the time under the Labour / Greens Government , Education - no or reduced fees, Workforce - pressure to employ Maori instead of others, even if the Maori candidate isn't as qualified for the Job, especially if this is a Government contract. This fantasy that Maori own the Water, meaning if 3 Waters goes ahead, they get the majority say in how Water is used as a resource That Cowboy hat wearing Clown is just trying to turn New Zealand into a Zimbabwe type situation. He gives me Robert Mugabe vibes

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

Maori have suffered under colonial rule for the last 164 years, that's why. Toitu te Tiriti. Honour the Treaty. That is all.

@CatherineAugust

Ай бұрын

Exactly why has that been the case for the last 160 years?

Sending Maori children to live in unsafe environments to satisfy cultural needs is just wrong

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

That's not what the policy is. Sorry.

@HTDSNZ

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766 Remain sorry, remain ignorant on the subject. Go on, talk before your brain can catch up, il be glad to educate you goofy

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

Well that’s not for much longer is it. Putting children back into abusive families is wrong

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

Agree completly.

@pclare7477

Ай бұрын

​@@detectiverogers5766We are foster parents, that's exactly what the policy has been doing. They are putting culture before physical safety and the best interest of thd children. We know heaps of children who have been left at dangerous neglectful homes all because of "culture". Who says they are even getting their culture needs meet at home anyway.

How STRANGE! Here we are able to make comment, NOT the case in NZ news reports (NZ media follow gobells formula...COMMENT DI S ALLOWED! Seymour is right 9 out of 10 NZers want to talk about the one way railroading of our once great wee nation. Our education on a world scale is 43......was 8 our ......"Universities bar & "deplatform " speakers! ...Maori naming of public institutions is confusing many.... roads are being lined up for re naming (or worse DOUBLE NAMING) renaming of fuel pumps is happening(a public safety issue) Maori custom &beliefs are bering given the authority of science?? Oral history is being presented as fact (even when written records conflict semi religious concepts are being given the force of law On & On .. seymour is right! we need discussion!

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

Absolutely true. If te parte Maori take control they will completely destroy NZ in every which way.

@iankinnell5643

Ай бұрын

Because our precious NZ media don't believe anyone who calls out any issues with Maori Culture, Trans in Women's Spaces or Against the Environment or Covid don't have the rights to an opinion

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

If you can learn the names of most of all your close loved ones, workmates, neighbours, favourite bands, actors, politicians, etc, you can bloody well learn Maori place names as well. Or are you not smart enough to do so?

@stu290bushrider

Ай бұрын

@@dragonballleague so why rename places. Example, Dunedin is Dunedin, Patea is Patea. You'd think there'd at least be a Suburb called Otepoti, if in fact it ever existed, in Dunedin. These are places that never existed as towns Patea was I'm sure a centre for the local tribe. The renaming of Mt Egmont to Taranaki is different, it was always there, and I'll assume that pre European, the locals did infact call it Taranaki maunga (noun) mountain, mount, peak.). That makes Mount Maunganui a weird name, Mount Mount Nui. Why isn't it just called Mt Nui? Why are Māori then, not getting rid of the European or colonial names? This quantum blood argue should then be to apply the same to names. I don't see that happening, and if so, why not?

There are many people here in NZ coming from diverse places on the globe. Many arrived with absolutely nothing, many coming from tyranny and brutality oppressive regimes. Who when they arrived, learnt a new language and found jobs, some in time started thriving businesses employing thousands. They educated their kids worked hard, didn’t blame others for their circumstances or cry victim hood, obeyed the laws of the country and were successful in-spite of their misfortune and ethnicity…..

no race based policy of any form. One NZ, one set of rules for all of us, one set of rights for all. Equality.

@J.Smith-rc6wh

Ай бұрын

get rid of the Waitangi Tribunal, it has served it's purpose, at great cost to us all, and it can be abolished as it's job is done

@gregsmith2164

Ай бұрын

thats not equality if the white people have undeniably ripped off Maori for decades after decades. Black Lives Matter, not all lives and if you cant get that then you are racist

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

Dumb

@stevecarr6175

Ай бұрын

@@J.Smith-rc6wh Not just yet. They have one last settlement with Nga Puhi - then the end.

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

They don’t need the tribunal to settle that. The tribe that it concerns have dragged their claim on for years. Perhaps they don’t want to settle because when they do it’ll be the end of the waitangi tribunal

This is what real common sense conservative leadership looks like. Australia take note. Vote one nation. ‘Reverse racism’ is just racism.

@FindAReason-mi7go

Ай бұрын

Reverse racism means unfair advantage, and state sanctioned revenge upon vulnerable members of the majority by the "disadvantage" minority... Look at the indigenous crimes against white people in Australia. The government deliberately suppresses such data. But of course the majority of crimes are perpetrated by indigenous people against other indigenous people.

@jonathanwright5550

Ай бұрын

He's not conservative either...

Well said bro... a course correction is overdue

Children first 🙏

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

All people first.

@manguparatene2774

Ай бұрын

Agree

The big joke is that you only have to be 1/32 Maori blood to be classed one and receive preferential treatment....

@jackiebiggs7071

Ай бұрын

I call them 'The teaspoon Maori'. They have a teaspoon of Maori DNA and are often the most rabid racists.

@rogerdewhurst5750

Ай бұрын

Really? Is that the cut off point? Is this set down in law?

@DrBojangles007

Ай бұрын

Sounds like BS to me, please provide evidence for your claim

@Camwin

Ай бұрын

Maybe in the 70s mate. They got rid of it because it's a racist policy believe it or not.....

@NipponKiwi

Ай бұрын

@@DrBojangles007 what's up Boomer!?

Yes, the Māori Party don’t address people as individuals. They address them by their race. NZ including the Maori battalion fought and gave their lives to stop a political force which was based on race. Maori tend to succeed more when they’re outside of NZ, where they are seen for who they are and not what they are. The likes of the Māori Party want Maori to be part of a cult like collective. This collective forces Maori to speak, think, behave and vote the same way. It’s as bad as Biden’s quote : ‘If you don’t vote democrat you ain’t black’. 😢

@charleswalker2484

Ай бұрын

You want to hold a people hostage in a political entity which they don't believe in and don't feel kinship to. What's so great about that? The Brits were just as racially motivated as the Germans in WW2 as well that's your modern reinterpretation of it. Brits at the time were deeply ethnically motivated and hated Germans.

@Camwin

Ай бұрын

Don't use the Māori battalion as an example. They went in first, some with no weapons and died an big, disproportionate numbers. Even then race was used against them. I don't think you have much knowledge at all of the Māori culture. amongst most of the people in this comments section. Shocking.....

@credenza1

Ай бұрын

Spot on. They treat vulnerable children as tokens in a race war, not as individuals with specific needs.

@unclejoe7958

Ай бұрын

@@Camwin It was based on class. The poorest and most uneducated were sent to the frontline first regardless of race throughout all countries.

@Camwin

Ай бұрын

@@unclejoe7958 that's right, exactly how they were looked at, poor and uneducated according to the crown. You said it yourself.

Aren’t you glad that we Said NO TO THE VOICE and STATE SANCTIONED APARTHEID AND RACISM here in Australia?

@CatsandJP

Ай бұрын

You’re lacking on important point…You do know that State sanctioned apartheid (Afrikaans = apartness) does not extend in Australia..it was only a political and social system in South Africa..educating oneself does help.

@valeriehughes1008

Ай бұрын

Survival first - culture can be learnt in time.

@stevecarr6175

Ай бұрын

@@valeriehughes1008 My mother came to NZ from Scotland after the war and as my siblings and I grew up we did many thing "Scottish" as a family. I never felt forced and enjoyed alot of it. Now that I'm MUCH older I haven't retained much of that tradition, it's just there, whether conscious or unconscious. I would rather that we all enjoyed the same rights, no exceptions. Only have to be a citizen.

@HTDSNZ

Ай бұрын

@@CatsandJP What a dribble mouth you are, don't ever talk about being educated again you simple cocco clock. What a completely useless mouth piece you are, what a fool lol

@FindAReason-mi7go

Ай бұрын

​@@CatsandJPThe word "apartheid" now has a generic meaning in the common vernacular. It now means racial separatism. It is like the word "taboo" - It once only applied to Polynesian customs, but now has a generic mean of "unacceptable". You might need to educate yourself about the assimilation of loan words in the English language. English has more loan words than any other language.

Well done David.

@sonnyalbert842

Ай бұрын

For what talking shit

One set of rules for all New Zealanders! Make NZ great again!

@danielharding7445

Ай бұрын

You realise that the Maori Roll was created just a few years after government was established?

@Camwin

Ай бұрын

These basic comments make me laugh. It's like slogan after slogan with no depth whatsoever

@abeltasman7828

Ай бұрын

Get a brain and think for yourself or shall I call you Donald

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

@@Camwin agree 💯 I would add, bogan after bogan lol

@tomrobinson8593

Ай бұрын

who's rules though, if you delve deeper, you will find that the current rules or law is based primarily on the (Westminster System). Obviously the law laid out within it, are prehistoric and draconian and therefore, I would love for that document be the target of change. To have it stripped down and adjusted to suite everyone in current times. Then maybe the treaty document can have changes to it as well.

What kind of Maori culture? Abuse, neglect and beatings? Have seen it again and again.

@professormutant3252

Ай бұрын

that's an unfortunate, but important distinction. there's a quite large "culture" of that that's cropped up, and that sorry excuse for a culture gets confused with the actually great culture of "ancient" Maori (I know ancient isn't quite the right word but I can't think of something better right now) civilisation. We do definitely need to stop excusing things like what's been going on in a concerning amount of Maori households though - they're disproportionately represented in crime/domestic abuse/neglect, and we really do need to fix that. Harming race relations definitely isn't the fix though Sorry if I was a bit rambly. I kinda just started typing as I thought.

@renatozanoli8722

Ай бұрын

@@professormutant3252 agree with your comments. But true change must start from within, the people who identify themselves with the Maori culture.

@peterstowers6219

Ай бұрын

Blame individuals not race I saw a European in Christchurch not long ago that killed her kids on purpose, let's not forget the Asian kids found in a suitcase, u can't blame a whole race for something an individual has done 😉

@1080sucks

Ай бұрын

+Murder

@renatozanoli8722

Ай бұрын

@@peterstowers6219 totally agree. However we have lived in a predominantly Maori district, I was employed in education, had our children going to school there. Witnessed the majority of dis-functional family environment not being European or Asian.

Waitangi Tribunal should be disbanded after the last clam has been settled.

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

Please learn about the Treaty of Waitangi before you open your waha.

@stu290bushrider

Ай бұрын

@@dragonballleague that's a big assumption. You imply that person knows nothing about the treaty. It's the kind of arrogant comments from people like yourself, we come to expect.

@danielmartin1860

Ай бұрын

The treaty of Waitangi was a treaty between the CROWN and MAORI... not everyother mouth that migrated to aotearoa .. Seymour can eat a fat dick

New Zealand can be grateful they have politician's like Seymour.

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

Mates he's basically despised besides some cretins who suck his dong, seemingly such as yourself.

@nikkster01

Ай бұрын

perversely I am this lot might last 18 months together before the govt implodes

@mezmernz

Ай бұрын

all three ✅✅✅

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

Yep. The new coalition will hopefully sort all this racist crap that favours a minority under 10% as opposed to the greater majority of 90% plus. Equal rights opportunities and respect for all of our 160 cultures residing in NZ please.

@user-FUCKYOU18

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 I didn't voted

Thank you David Seymour

@sonnyalbert842

Ай бұрын

For dividing our country ❤

@geofreyr

Ай бұрын

@@sonnyalbert842 "the importance of a loving safe environment for a child under state care ranks higher than cultural requirements" - and you disagree with this how exactly?

David Seymour is an outstanding leader. Both a politician and a statesman.

@tomrobinson8593

Ай бұрын

David Seymour just enjoys the sound of his own voice!! Can't stand the Rat!!

@rogerdewhurst5750

Ай бұрын

Except that he has nought in to the Covid vaccine idiocy.

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

Yeh like I'm guilty of thinking he was goofy but he's exemplary in Politics and explaining their wisdom. NZ was a great Country once until the Waitangi Tribunal debacle that worked to spread racist false narratives the caused a long term social engineering campaign to make Pakeha feel guilty and Maori feel victimised. It's th old oppressed vs oppressor mentality. It's Maori oppressing our heritage. Has to stop its getting nasty the Govt needs to require some resignations and disbanding of maori racists in all party's.

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

We'll get you two a room shall we?

Change the name too, so everyone knows what you are even talking about rather than just 4% of the population, and even most of that 4% only know a few phrases also.

We fought against apartheid here in New Zealand on behalf of South Africa , and here it is being cultivated by an entitled race. It's got to end Thank you to this coalition. Keep strong.

@charleswalker2484

Ай бұрын

Apartheid ending ruined South Africa. Everyone knows this except for you.

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

The term “apartheid”, an Afrikaans word, derived from the French term “mettre à part”, literally translated to “separating, setting apart.” Apartheid is a policy that is founded on the idea of separating people based on racial or ethnic criteria. You are being dishonest with your statement by comparing our situation in NZ to the South African Apartheid state of yesteryears. I wonder if you have stepped onto a Marae and even spoken to Maori regarding their views of the mistreatment of their people and culture over the last 164 years since the signing of the Treaty. Stand up, if you have a backbone, and get to know them before you spew your vitriol opinions about them.

@62cripple

Ай бұрын

@St_George_Wellington_R_League 🤣🤣🤣🤣 your lack of education is transparent, get your probation officer to show you a dictionary , learn to read, look up Apartheid, you friken plonker...🤦🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣 then tell me what tepati hate racist living in abundance of colonial oppression is, hypocrite...

@62cripple

Ай бұрын

@St_George_Wellington_R_League while you're at it look up pakeha, .....this is going to freak you out...yup....you are one 😱

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

@62cripple If things were fair and square in Aotearoa, we wouldn't be here having this convo. You know, heart of hearts, there is injustice here in Aotearoa. And you have the nerve to tell others to get on with it. Whatever Trevor.

Well done David!

Learn from this Australia.

@FindAReason-mi7go

Ай бұрын

Anyone without a vested interest, and an IQ over 85 knows exactly what is going on.

@WiremuEdwards

Ай бұрын

We ain't aussie

@antonmiles8167

Ай бұрын

@@WiremuEdwards I’m intrigued,Wiremu. How does your statement relate to my comment?

@Camwin

Ай бұрын

Australia are worse hahaha. You haven't even got anything remotely close to what NZ has for their indigenous people. Unless what you are learning is to actually have better relations wiht your first nations people.

@antonmiles8167

Ай бұрын

@@Camwin I think you’ll find,when it comes to left wing ideologues all consumed by identity politics,Australia is on par.

Sky news read the treaty. There’s nothing in the treaty about self determination. Maori ceded sovereignty to the crown in return for the rights to their own land and to be treated equally. Remember the maori version was translated from the English version so what it says in the English version is the truth. Not only that there’s written comments of maori at the time that they understood what they were signing.

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

Giltee26. I couldn't put it better. Agree tots.

@user-FUCKYOU18

Ай бұрын

Not all of them signed it There were alot of chief didn't signed it

@kentstevens5839

Ай бұрын

The words "self determination" do not appear in the English or Maori version of the Treaty of Waitangi. Maori along with other New Zealand citizens got property rights in the Treaty, which is different from self determination.

@anaruterry5483

Ай бұрын

What a stupid comment where it says the English version is truth. You had an English person translate it, how do you know there wasn't a hidden agenda? There were translation issues as words such sovereignty and governship didn't have exact translations for those which then change the context drastically. Please educate yourself

@anaruterry5483

Ай бұрын

Also where is your evidence that Maori understood what was ACTUALLY written? Are you able to understand Maori language?

If you Australians had voted for the Voice you could have got something like the Waitangi Tribunal. The Waitangi Tribunal creates report after report saying that the New Zealand government is wrong and is in breach of the Treaty of Waitangi. Recently, the Waitangi Tribunal summoned a minister who is part of the current government. New Zealand has more than 10,000 claims by Maori tribes that have not been settled.

The interviewer is a woke leftist. Such dumb questions.

Seymour got it right. Who is the idiot he was talking to?

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

He was talking to the man in the mirror.

politics need to leave raCE OUT OF THE DISCUSSION

@abeltasman7828

Ай бұрын

Go tell Seymour exactly that

The problem with the treaty stuff it sounds all good and wonderful on paper in really it does not work. The child welfare people always prioritise fostering children with family… this business of trying to uplift children from healthy family environments because the tribe decides that’s in thier best interests is madness.

@DrBojangles007

Ай бұрын

It's a consideration that should be taken into account so that the child has a connection to their Iwi, hapu and wider whanau.

@anaruterry5483

Ай бұрын

You obviously have no idea the history of Te Tiriti or the welfare system.

They put the Mao in Maori.

@RJH755

Ай бұрын

If Te Pati Maori called for Mao's landlord reform I'd vote for them in a heartbeat!

@josephjamesrollo9826

Ай бұрын

They put poo in urbanmonkey

Still cannot understand why a child with say 1/16th Māori blood should be compulsory placed with a Maori family as opposed to the most suitable family

If they are an eighth Maori or less how can you say that Maori is their culture?

@Smoshy16

Ай бұрын

$$$$$$

@charleswalker2484

Ай бұрын

When your grandchildren are 7/8ths indian or chinese you'll have the total opposite opinion

@cyrillawless

Ай бұрын

@@charleswalker2484 what makes you think that. Unless we get a handout for being pakeha

@charleswalker2484

Ай бұрын

@@cyrillawless I just want you to envision the future where your people are in that situation and consider how you'd like it to be handled. Do you want to be culturally erased?

@cyrillawless

Ай бұрын

@@charleswalker2484but if your less than an 1/8th, Maori culture is not your culture.

There is no reason why a loving foster family could not ensure that a child has access to culture. It is clear that the Maori Party is a threat to children, seeing them as tokens in their political game, indifferent to their individual needs. That should set alarm bells ringing.

@stu290bushrider

Ай бұрын

There is already cases where that has been proven right. Where the foster parents have emersed the child in Maori culture.

Haven't politicians watched once were warriors they could learn a few things

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

? The hell even is this implying?

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

Is this even a coherent conversation? My bros need to ease up on the p.

@professormutant3252

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766 my closest guess to this absolute mess of a comment is "Politicians were once warriors, modern ones could learn something from history" or some shit like that because I have absolutely no clue lmfao

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

I was married into a maori family and once were warriors was a good fit. I saw Emotional baiting, physical violence, alcohol abuse. Later I found out there was incest from the father and the brother.

@professormutant3252

Ай бұрын

@@giltee626 ***ohhhhhh*** he's referring to that movie. that makes sense.

I think most NZ are behind this man he talks

No racial division in law. The government is to serve all equally, not special provisions for some and not others.

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

So no disability allowance, for example? Sounds like a scummy view to me.

@Factoverfiction1-mk3rf

Ай бұрын

I was referring to race, not disability. No one is going to be denied disability allowance because of their race.

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

@@Factoverfiction1-mk3rf Oh so it isn't that simple then? Hmm weird. Just going to copy paste what I said here. - Mate, there's a systemic link between the class (ie in this case the poor and impoverished) and Maori. To put it bluntly, most don't come from wealth or have it in their family's due to multiple factors. Gambling, drug use, imprisonment, low paying jobs and poor education are just a few things that disproportionally affect people of Maori descent. Some families were literally slaves only a few generations back and came from absolutely nothing. This isn't even taking into account the environment these conditions can create and how it affects developing young kids. Literally, do any effort of looking into this, and maybe have some human empathy about people who have been generationally bashed. This is not to diminish anyone else who is struggling. This is not to deny there are rich Maori, or poor Europeans. Policies there to help assist those in caught within these conditions are not there to screw over anybody. The reason I brought up the disability thing, essentially many Maori have an inherit societal handicap, explained by the factors mentioned above (and then some).

@HTDSNZ

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766 We understand, your view is Maori are disabled and should be treated as such, many tax-paying Maori that have never met iwi might have a few words for you tho lol

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

Come on that want said. It’s time the New Zealand made a law that all legislation was to be colourblind.

The Treaty was and is a simple document, Apirana Ngata knew it well, but it was written in 1840 , we need to honour it as written not continually twist the meanings and add principals that just werent there...

Te Pati Māori emboldened by the Labour government who pushed most of these policies with their ill gotten majority (during the pandemic) are responsible for a lot of this rhetoric. They have no issues bullying & abusing other Māori MP’s in parliament who oppose their race obsessed views. David is right. They have weaponised the treaty & weaponised the Waitangi tribunal to further a grievance industrial complex. They blame colonisation for all their failures & refuse to take any personal responsibility. Some of the most successful politicians in NZ are Māori. So are some of the most successful people in all walks of like? Dame Kiri Te Kanawa, famous director Taika Waititi? How did they achieve it if colonisation keeps everyone back? The worst part is they are train a whole new generation to despise their fellow New Zealanders and see them as usurpers. Teaching them grievance culture. It’s ghastly & should be stopped. I’ve seen this type of rhetoric ending very badly in other countries. These radicals are not helping matters.

Keep it up David we need you and Winston more than ever also how about sorting out our judiciary Kiri Allen's case was the most disgusting I've ever read come on we all have very short memories when the next election comes up some of your promises from the 3 parties we are in still waiting for 😢

What partnership is there when there are still a Waitangi Tribunal to deal with the injustices of the past between the crown and the indigenous people of NZ. The Act party are emphasising equality for all people however statistics show that there is no equality- Maori are still at the bottom. Until the founding document the Treaty is rightfully and legally acknowledged by the current and future governments that it is a partnership between Maori and the crown, there will continue to be division, protests by the people and the govt ignorance and unfair policies

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

Lower than bottom 😅

Good.

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

bad

I live in NZ. Its a nut house. Bonkers.

@MandySam13

Ай бұрын

I agree. I live in NZ too & starting to wonder if I want to anymore. It breaks my heart because I love this country so much.

@austinbrown275

Ай бұрын

@@MandySam13 I was born in this country, schooled in this country have had business in this country and now can't wait to leave this country, i will be selling my land to the Chinese.

Thank you David Seymour, you're doing great work for and in this nation.

Jacinta has a lot to answer for.

Good to see…David is on the money

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

Oh he's sitting on a lot of money right now. We can agree there lmao

@lifeliver9000

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766like the Māori party ripping off nz taxes to pay their wages to make up crap and deviding nz. Disgusting racists

@ohnean1

Ай бұрын

Yep , Atlas money and backing ... you know, the same Atlas the fed the fear that undermined the aussie Voice vote !!

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

Not as much as member of the Liebour party. Adern in 3 years went from under 1 million in assets to over 24 million

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

David is absolutely right. I'd back him every time. Quite obviously the NZ public totally back the new coalition and we all know why. Sick of the last govt prioritising by race, spending money with no accountability, achieving nothing but turning us into a poor third world country and racking up debt for the tax payer of unheard inexcusable amounts. Increased poverty, increased crime, increased homelessness and broken promises, increased social issues. Yep they did a bloody good job of screwing us all over.

The treaty isn't the founding document. Why does the interviewer keep insisting that it is?

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

What document is in your opinion then?

@paulmarden3301

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766 NZ had a declaration of independence before the Treaty.

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

@@paulmarden3301 That's not a self-evident statement... There were documents before it too, I think there were even some drafts very similar to the treaty. The Declaration asserted Māori independence and sovereignty, but it lacked widespread recognition and support, and its authority was not internationally recognized. In contrast, the Treaty of Waitangi was a formal agreement between Māori chiefs and the British Crown, establishing British sovereignty over New Zealand while also recognizing certain rights and protections for Māori.

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

We have a constitution. The tee was an agreement to stop the warring between maori tribes. It’s very simple and has outlived its usefulness in a democratic world.

@kentstevens5839

Ай бұрын

There is no single founding document for New Zealand. Queen Victoria’s 1840 Royal Charter enacted the Colony of New Zealand, established a legislative council, an executive council and the courts, and granted certain powers and authority to the Governor.

How refreshing to see this debate by Sky Aussie, totally different approach than the constant "whack a mole" methods of NZ media. Well done the interviewer and David S.

Good idea to remove the cultural condition, as too many kids were beaten up and abused in such unsafe environments

This is necessary. As to 'the Crown' that is England & Spain. The N.Z. govt is Not the Crown

It must be a very good thing that children separated from or being mistreated by their parents if they are kept well away from a dysfunctional part of society. Don't listen to a thing said by the Waitangi Tribunal, which must be dismantled, the sooner the better. Good work David Seymour.

No special treatment and no extra money for MAORI. Enough. They can share and get everything what other people and children get. No treaty ... no reasond for that.

This culture still thought is was alright to eat people 180yrs ago

It used to amaze me during the protests against Springboks rugby tours I saw no Maoris participating.

Our next Pime Minister. Politely calls out the bullshit when he needs to.

Oh actually that kind of situation isnt unheard of in Australia.

How funny was that guy when he had to ask questions about the Waitangi Tribunal ? 😂

Having witnessed and supported a man completely derailed by those closest to him who claim to be Māori, I feel it’s about time Māori took take a long hard look at what has been happening to their Tamariki and change for the better.

TOW is not the founding document of NZ. Well done David great explanations.

Why is he putting all his energy on the Waitangi tribunal. He has given no direction or policies to help normal nz. He is a disgrace.

@donwall9632

Ай бұрын

righttttttt... ok BOT

Call the organisation something else if you want to make changes, you know it's a hard and failing subject, the name Oranga Tamariki puts blame on Maori when things go wrong. Besides I thought they want Maori names out of government organisations.

Good on the govt one people,one nation, one set of rules this Waitangi crap is example of apartheid, extra benefits for one race of people? About time we got a govt taking steps to sought this sh#t out instead of just hand outs.

As a non Maori this policy sounds like the old days when Maori could not speak their language at schools etc Also remember how many Maori have fought for NEW ZEALAND 🇳🇿 and how many Maori are still in the New Zealand Armed Forces be careful act

@Jasonmcintyre3011

Ай бұрын

What are you talking about you muppet

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

Rubbish

@Jasonmcintyre3011

Ай бұрын

No it’s just putting the child’s needs first instead of culture that’s what the purpose of the agency is, New Zealand is so intermingled all Māori have European blood also. There might need to be a conversation had with some of these people looking in the mirror at themselves.

Yip. About time nz was just one nation. No more hard done by moari. I was born here and I'm still suffering that moari didn't have opportunity I did. So far from the truth.

What guy in a fucking castle? The king of England?

“Removing them from that culture” sounds like a great idea…

Childrens well being before race. Well done David 👏 TPM have lost the plot.

Titiro David, kūare kūpapa!

Truth from David to counter Maori lies

Amazing Interviewer. What is his name?

Thank you Mr Seymour for your exemplary services to NZ thank you for speaking up for all kiwis and putting your foot down to all this Maori racists nonsense

@Craig154

Ай бұрын

He's not speaking for all Kiwi's. Most Kiwi's thinks he's an idiot. Classic tail wagging the dog politics. How many people voted for him again?

Act party only got 7% of the vote so …..

Hey guy's and gals from Australia, I'm an American but love Sky news Australia. However I'm not familiar with the Australian government and it's workings. I could use a few quick answer's if anybody's up for a question or 2 ? Thanks.

@Smoshy16

Ай бұрын

No. You seem unhinged and not able to discuss things rationally. Your spelling is a give away. Wish you all the best. Goodbye.

Keep up the good work David. Chloe has a secret crush on you

"Maori" is not pronounced "mahdee".

@DossNZ

Ай бұрын

Don't silence people. Be glad they're even interested in this esoteric topic.

@socialite1283

Ай бұрын

@@DossNZ Who is silencing people?

@DossNZ

Ай бұрын

@socialite1283 It's the result of people trying to pronounce, then getting picked up on it. You know what they're communicating, I know too. That's what language is all about. Be happy that so many people are interested in a very small minority at the bottom of the world.

@donwall9632

Ай бұрын

@@DossNZ muddee

🙄

Te tiriti is here to stay forever and you cant change it without both Maori and crown approval, no one else that means all you haters

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

It's our English Treaty that protects us from your shit!

Stop geoengineering NZ skies every day.

@charleswalker2484

Ай бұрын

Meds status: untaken

I lived in foster homes as a very young child i was beaten and bullied i wasn't aloud to talk i was told i was always dirty and with drawn I wasn't allowed to play with their kids toys i had to find somewhere to hide and be quite i got my love from a dog

Well done David Seymour

Dont want to lose their culture of abuse and death yeah that culture

Foster parents regardless of race, usually do go through courses in Treaty of waitangi principles and have access to resources through school. Cancellation of the principles will remove this completely. Kids are not uplifting because a foster parent is not the same culture, they get removed if a Family member is wanting them. This is the same for all children is foster care. Why dont we look at the failures here rather than the Treaty. Seymour talks about this being 'the vibe of the thing's however they could not produce research behind this idealism

Māori- Swimming at the shallow end of indigenous, colonisers themselves.

Waitangi Tribunal?? Unelected people just like you and me basically 🤷🏽‍♂️

Well I guess Maori have the backing from more then 1 out of 6 that voted for them and the protest proved that.

Controversial? Not with there average Kiwi.

Another brainwashed woke reporter.

The treaty is not a founding document on which New Zealand is based

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

Literally, it is... you're not clever or unique with your take. Try explaining yourself beyond shite quotes you got from youtube shorts. The declaration was not widely recognized or had little to no support. There were even some potential contending documents prior. You're supporting a minority opinion from a few hundred years ago. Well done.

@lifeliver9000

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766you comment doesn’t make sense?

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

@@lifeliver9000 Have you tried reading it?

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

@@lifeliver9000 Here it is, rewritten more simply for you. - The Declaration of Independence you're championing wasn't exactly the big hit you might think it was. It didn't get much traction, lacked broad support. So, when you're backing it up, you're essentially championing an underdog that didn't quite make it to the top. Nice try, but it's like supporting a B-side track from centuries ago. - Did you understand that?

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

Yes. 1. Maori gave up sovereignty to the crown in return for, 2. Right of ownership of their own land and possessions and 3 in return they’d be given the rights of British citizens. Maori chiefs at the time understood its meaning and when they ran out of singing room on the English version signed to translation

These radical parties were made by labor and the nga tahu mari

May I ask, if, before your interview, you had read 'He PuaPua', a Labour party-commissioned report that outlines the pathway for New Zealand to meet its commitment to the UN Declaration of Indigenous Peoples in order to provide a sense of 'balance' to the interview?

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

Maori arent indigenous. Ask Winston. They are colonisers like the rest of us.

@MaryAda-wj3dy

Ай бұрын

Moriori were here first. What happened to them? Elite tribal radical maori and te parte maori want tell the truth about that.

@anaruterry5483

Ай бұрын

​@@MaryAda-wj3dyWinston is the biggest troll of them all.

@user-bg7yb5nl6y

Ай бұрын

The united nations is a hypocrite joke

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

Everyone is indigenous to somewhere so that should include everyone otherwise it's racist

Keep it up David we are all behind you 🇳🇿

Sir David rules. Okay?

Cur

A despicable piece of shirt

@cascade3769

Ай бұрын

Thank you England for giving us rugby league.

@dragonballleague

Ай бұрын

@cascade3769 thank you England for giving us games we enjoy and can actually play it better than you could have ever imagined 😉

No one should have their race or heritage removed regardless if they are adult or a child…this is who you are and what makes who you are….I’m of mixed race and proud of it….there is also no need for racism of any kind…people who are…need to learn acceptance and tolerance and coexist peacefully.

@FlyingKiwi1958

Ай бұрын

nothing about these changes is to do with removal of race and heritage. It is about ensuring ALL children are safe and can thrive and that true democracy and equal opportunity of all citizens prevails. This idea that 180 years later there are two separate classes of citizens is dangerous and looking forward a further 100 years is just madness.

@whocares5773

Ай бұрын

Maori's used to practice cannibalism is this the heritage you want? When you look at cultures from a retarded view point you only get a retarded view.

@detectiverogers5766

Ай бұрын

@@FlyingKiwi1958 "This idea that 180 years later there are two separate classes of citizens is dangerous and looking forward a further 100 years is just madness." Mate, there's a systemic link between the class (ie in this case the poor and impoverished) and Maori. To put it bluntly, most don't come from wealth or have it in their family's due to multiple factors. Gambling, drug use, imprisonment, low paying jobs and poor education are just a few things that disproportionally affect people of Maori descent. Some families were literally slaves only a few generations back and came from absolutely nothing. This isn't even taking into account the environment these conditions can create and how it affects developing young kids. Literally, do any effort of looking into this, and maybe have some human empathy about people who have been generationally bashed. This is not to diminish anyone else who is struggling. This is not to deny there are rich Maori, or poor Europeans. Policies there to help assist those in caught within these conditions are not there to screw over anybody. We literally have a culture here which is unique to the reset of the world, and you just want to whitewash and say 'nah dude, trust me we're all just kiwi or whatever, nobody of different cultures here' because you have little to no association with anyone who actually is a part of that (I don't mean you don't know anyone who's ethnically Maori, I mean people who actually practice the culture.) Sounds to me like what you really want in 100 years is everyone to be in a black tanktop around the bbq drinking a tui and laughing about the latest stupid tiktok meme.

@giltee626

Ай бұрын

Remember most Maori lineage is less than 50% however it’s their right to choose how maori they want to be. However the bigger majority of maori I grew up with didn’t give a jot about culture. That’s been a more recent thing where it’s been rammed down everyone’s throats to appease a few.

@firequeen7872

Ай бұрын

@@detectiverogers5766There’s a systemic link between crappy life choices and bad parenting. Victim card has run out. Children’s safety comes first. Children need to be placed with safe and loving people no matter what their colour. End of story.

HE ALL TEKO!! THIS FULLA!!

@user-bg7yb5nl6y

Ай бұрын

Truth hurts does it 😂

Who are you to say where our Māori chidren should be placed Seymour. They deserve to know who they are, where they come from and their culture. If there are no safe placements within whanau, then look else where. Cultural needs are a priority. Stop trying to steal our children.

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

But you're not telling truth, you don't understand the Treaty you're dangerous

Wow really balanced reporting, noce. How much did you get paid to shill this?

why does he say in colonial times like its over or something...

ACT=THE ATLAS NETWORK =ACT

All I know is us Māori won’t be following no Anzac comrades to war when it all heads south because of ties to America, Australia Politics are exactly that “disgusting” 🫡 use can have all your guys close relations the kiwis 😂

@charleswalker2484

Ай бұрын

Bro Maori are going to be the scapegoat of the government for why the economy is failing. Be prepared to argue with facts and logic because you're not going to get through to pakeha any other way.

@cascade3769

Ай бұрын

​@@charleswalker2484You are Pakeha too, you absolute ass clown!

@StGammon77

Ай бұрын

We're all Pakeha here

@cascade3769

Ай бұрын

@@StGammon77 Including the "Maori."