“It’s not that bad.” All that’s good is the roof and the where the taillights go.

@jamessickmore236

3 жыл бұрын

“It’s not that bad.” Yea its worse lol just junk it.

So to summarize: you need a new floor, cowl, firewall, front rails, rockers, rear fenders, front fenders, rear deck lid, and a front rail graft. In the end the roof and the rear valance with some of the frame in place are the only things you are keeping. Good luck!

Gonna watch start to finish of project

This is the correct way of restoring sand blasting only touches the outer body shell good job many thanks

I am eating my heart out, here! I am too old to even think of a project like this! Look forward to seeing how this dream car winds up! Wishing you the very best on this!

I feel like the acid bath is the ultimate methode, because it kinda forces you to repair every single pinhole properly.

Absolutely love your positive attitude.. can't wait to see more 👌🤙🤠

It was very interesting to see how it was done. I'm going to keep watching more of your videos. Really want to see it make a comeback.

Just stumbled on your vid of 67’ resto. Really interesting, looking forward to the next instalment. 👍🏻

Great work! Glad to see this build underway

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Looking forward to seeing how the build goes. Subscribed.

Love the acid dip results, at least you know the true condition of the body now

Given the number of panels that have rust holes in them, if someone has this car and doesn't have the skills to perform the body work, I think they'd be better off selling the good parts of that body, and buy a whole new body from Dynacorn. Since you're in for a ton of money anyway, it might prove more economical in the end.

It is a really good thing that you can buy all these panels. I just hope they are better then the average aftermarket panels.

@ClassicNation

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Looking forward to continuing progress on your build. Going to be awesome! I have a 65 fastback (my first car) when I was 16, that has been sitting in the back of my shop for just a tad over 4 decades. It's a California car with no rust that I can tell. Wanting to start from bare metal like this. GT350 Competition (R) is my plan. Thanks.

My cousins did this with an old VW bus and I was like hly shit guys you might as well make a new car yourselves. Took a lot of work but the end result was amazing

Merry Christmas! Awesome video, looking forward to watching this project progress.

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Steve! I appreciate the support! Happy Holidays!

Great results with the acid dip!

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I'm super happy with the results!

Don't lean too heavily on the "Dynacorn Solution". Every dynacorn part needs work to fit it to a stock chassis. And their stampings often lack the crisp edges. Fenders can be very disappointing. Also, make sure you protect evey seam. The acid gets in between every spot welded panel joint. If you don't push something in there the raw metal will rust from the inside out and spread the the panel joints. Seam sealer is not enough. Look into it, please! Good luck! Love your attitude and your organization!

Oh. I was, and still am super impressed with the acid cleaning. But good lord friend she's buggered. But, if this is what you enjoy doing, do it. Screw the negative nancies.

Fantastic video. The passion on the build is commendable.

Wow. That acid cleaned it to the bare bones. 👏🏾👏🏾

All of these 1960's vehicles, unless they spent their whole life in Arizona, are going to need extensive body work. Good luck with the next 1000 hours of body work.

@cloakedgt

3 жыл бұрын

not really, mine for example is a canadian car its a 79 but in 79 most of the muscle cars cars were still solid, even up in canada here, still original quarters, just typical dash rot and toe boards, no structural damage, but i do agree that this thing here is a heap,

That is a lot of work ahead of you. I am in the middle of a 68 Convertible restoration and had to replace everything from rear seats back as well as front frame rails, inner fenders etc.. Like you it was "just" a 289 car but considering convertibles only made up 8% and fastbacks only 13% of all mustangs produced in 67-68 we have to bring these cars back to life. Will be following your progress, best of luck . hope your plasma cutter is working :-)

I agree with the comments below. Dynacorn body might be the way to go with all the sheet metal and prep that this car would require. A slight obstacle would be the VIN number you cannot assign the old VIN number to a kit car. But I think dynacorn might be able to Supply you with a special Vin or you can get one from your local DMV It would not be the same as the original VIN. But that's your choice.

Having done 4 “rusty car projects” in my past I watched this review and love my 2020 GT even more!

Makes me think about all the really expensive cars are out there that are just covered up by carpet, bondo and paint. You know the ad that says "frame off restoration" I believe there's alot of junk rolling around

@joshuaramirez6121

2 жыл бұрын

yeah when I first saw this mustang I thought why would you wanna acid dip that? it looks fine. Then I saw the aftermath and I was blown away by how rough it was.

@battlemasterszone1750

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaramirez6121 I have the feeling mine is going to look this bad when I tear it down, 69 Grand Torino been in a barn for a few years.

Please take this as conservative feedback, from experience to repair and replace that much structural metal you need a jig to target each fundamental point of the vehicle to ensure the car square when completed. With that much rust it has probably is already out of whack to begin with. I would cut your losses and re-shell the body. You will spend a mountain of cash to bring that one back, and it will always be a patchwork quilt. Ether way good luck, and I admire your enthusiasm👍

@fmorelli

2 жыл бұрын

And all that for a pedestrian fastback. Not like this is a GT350. A lot of work to "do it right" ....

@VHilts

Жыл бұрын

It’s in the restoration work that most DIY enjoyment is gained. Always save as much as possible in a renovation, without compromising safety. It’s also hard to claim true “numbers matching“ authenticity, when the numbers are just switched to new AMD (or other) panels, instead of original. But the budget usually dictates the restoration methods/hardware/quality anyway, regardless of intent.

@jeremygreen3392

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Awesome car. Awesome process.

With that much rust repair needed a dynacorn 67 Shell would be a cheaper and much faster alternative.

@claymaness288

3 жыл бұрын

Agree...check out Peterson restoration. He sells new dynacorn shells rust free for 19,000. Keeps what he can and keeps the VIN. This is already 14,000 and he’s replacing all the parts and interior.

@paulpichler

3 жыл бұрын

@@claymaness288 He usually asks between 22,000 and 30,000, depending on the options. And he doesn’t include an interior either. The body doesn’t look too bad in my opinion. I’ve definitely seen worse. It makes way more sense financially to just repair this one if he does all the work himself!

@danhenry8557

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulpichler hahhahaahahahahahahhahaahahahah

@paulpichler

3 жыл бұрын

@@danhenry8557 What?

@troykleeman4258

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with Paul. Most people scoff and walk at a little bit of work. This is a project car. With it stripped completely as it is, each section would take a day or less to repair and have ready for the paint phase. The most tedious part would be getting the sections on hand to weld in. As this is a mustang, everything is easily obtainable. This is not bad at all.

Im looking forward to watching this build

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! I'm pumped to be working on it.

Hi Evan. Well , your certainly spoilt for choice ! The really positive aspect is appears you have all the facilities you need and that jig looks brand new. I took my TR6 back to bare metal by machine . Think it took about 6months ! I'm sure you already know but don't look at the whole car it will overwhelm you. Just do one job at a time. And perhaps the floor is a good starting point. The great thing about the Mustang is you can get everything and at competitive prices. Well, the very best of luck and l'm sure you'll keep us in the loop . Take care and stay safe. Enjoy the rest of Christmas and lets hope for a positive 2021.

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John! Yes, agreed. I've got the car in the shop belonging to a client of mine, and they're going to be helping me out with the metal fab and restoration. Thanks again for the support: I really appreciate it!

A 427 stroker with a 6 speed! WOW! Sounds awesome!

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

It should be a rip!

@danfarris135

3 жыл бұрын

He’s going to have to build a subframe and new front suspension because it won’t fit between the stock shock towers!

You have a pretty good shell to work with and about 6mts to a year of sheet metal work or more. But its good to see old iron brought back to life. Dallas Mustang in TX and Classic Industries should have alot of what you need. But one piece at a time and it will get done. I am a Camaro person myself but I do like a nice Mustang. My year preference is 68-70 fastback. Good luck with it.

Go with the Mustangs to Fear subframe. That will help with your subframe. It’s stronger than factory. Now you have a really strong foundation for the 427. It looks very close to stock. From there, they use the 69 mustang floor pans as the have the seat riser improvements for headroom and seat belt location. From there, add new torque boxes, remove the shock towers, and you will have a chassis that is much stronger than factory. Mustangs to Fear make nice stuff and are great to deal with. Good luck. Keep us posted.

Merry Christmas!

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

You too! Merry Christmas!

Not really that bad? I have restored more than a few Mustangs but I wouldn’t attempt this one. I hope it turns out good for you.

@paintham9430

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda agree-this is a good bit of work for a unibody car. Although I currently have a project that’s way worse, but it’s a square body and parts are plentiful and has perfect frame rails.

@paintham9430

3 жыл бұрын

As Neil Young said “Rust never sleeps”

There’s someone out there watching this video that did the floor Pan work 20 years ago that just now realizes that they suck at body work.

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! I like to think they are a pro now, maybe even stacking dimes for @Roadstershop or @Kindigit

It really shows the results of the patch the outside panels and sell it majority of classic cars sold by dealers suffer. If you go to one of the dealers selling fleets of muscle cars, this is usually what you are buying for 25 Grand.

Thank you for sharing

this is a great advertisement for dynacorn

Crush it! I didn’t look that bad before stripping! Should have just drove it for awhile!

The roof looks good.

I can't wait to get mine back in a couple weeks. I don't even care if it's worse than yours. The car means far too much to me to worry about a bit of metal work/replacement. Don't jump right into the "replace the whole thing" until you look at someone like Fitzee's Fabrication work. Might save you some of the common repro fitment headaches and keep more of the original steel. Good luck!

@ClassicNation

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Looking for the next episodes.

Man... that thing is ate up. Lots of work ahead.

"A little bit rougher than I thought" #understatement

Sorry for my last comment it posted before I edited it. The moral of the story I wanted to say is that these old cars that we are in love with- you better know what you were looking at and take a couple of friends to give you extra sets of eyes. Because the current owner may not even know how deep the mud is in the vehicle. I have been trying to buy a 71 or 72 blazer but unfortunately all of the tubs look as bad as this mustang. My wife and I joke that if I spend the money on one I am really only buying possibly the firewall, title and the Vin tag.

This should have one like per view. 🇺🇸

Very cool, can’t wait to see the progress and the finished project. Say 2031? (Kidding). I looked back 11 months ago where i commented when you just took deliver of it. Keep it going bro!

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

New update coming next week!!

Its gonna rust from between all the pinch welded panels now....unless it was submerged in phosphate , just rinsing it with a rust inhibitor isn't enough. I had a 55 Chevy done in the late 90s......then spent 25K on body and paint by a very well known high end shop.....fast forward to now and there are bubbles and paint lifting in the gutters and the rocker pinch welds.

@Boatsandhoes44u8

3 жыл бұрын

That's true, most wouldn't think about that step

WOW.... Never seen so many pin holes in a car.

Looks like a job for "My Friend Pete" at his new shop in Utah. He has done a few of this vintage of Rustang.

Amazing !

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

I must of missed it, did you give a shout out to the place that did your dip ???..I have to agree, much better than media blasting. You don't have to worry about sand coming out of every nook and cranny for weeks, months, years after you finish your car. Much cleaner platform to start with.. Big THUMBS UP...

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

metaldipping.com

I went to the Barrett Jackson auction in Vegas in a couple of years ago and was shocked by the shiny cars there but had in their car descriptions the words “rotisserie” “frame off” “body off” And Coors

not much of it that hasn't got rust in it , will be interesting to watch how you approach this rebuild

Couldn't help but notice the Cutlas Supreme in the background . We dropped a Pontiac 400 station wagon (Vista Cruiser) engine into the Engine bay of a Cutlas once . It was faster than a Corvette . We could smoke the tires, all the way down the street in it !!

Esse carro é fantástico, amo no meu país esse carro é muito raro e vale muito, eu amo sou muito fã desse Mustang parabéns pela restauração!🎉🎉🎉

Not enough left to call it repairable!

it looks pretty good except for the bad spots

@ezacher4634

3 жыл бұрын

On. Every. Single. Panel. Crazy.

@rovai0

3 жыл бұрын

My frame rails are rusted through but it’s not that bad?!?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

I hope you got plenty of money.

@richsmith3300

3 жыл бұрын

It's not that bad he can weld and fabricate one section at a time.

So how do you prevent further corrosion in all the nook and crannies now that any factory coating is gone?

Does that unit start rusting the moment you take it out? Do you have to use some kind of primer on it, while you complete the patchwork?

OMG - the firewall is even gone! Wow, jack up the radiator cap and push a new Mustang under it.

@matthewwarfield4302

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO

the only good piece in your car is the roof panel

I think you have a Ship of Theseus problem...

@timfisher77

3 жыл бұрын

each part, in it's turn, replaced until only the VIN plate remains. Then, because it is too shabby, it to is replaced.

Good 👍 luck CN

Is the Mustang mounted on a Blackhawk frame bench? I have one but my wheels are adjustable front to back and up and down to level. I have my 1970 SCJ mounted on mine.

Note to self: never acid dip a car body.

@OffTheBeatenPath_

3 жыл бұрын

Mine would completely disappear

@92camarodragcar73

3 жыл бұрын

They do this with drag car but they then tube chassis the car

@NoZero-yc3xu

3 жыл бұрын

pointless excersise , might be able to save the roof and some rear supports other than that all that clean metal and money are going in the scrap bin

@tomp1612

2 жыл бұрын

Big issue is the rockers, they are galvanized and the acid dip takes that off and now the rockers will rust from the inside out. When you wash the car or it rains the water drains into the rockers. You need to prime or paint inside the rockers with a long wand or "soaker hose" that goes the whole length and sprays all around.

Do they drill a hole in the roof to drain the air pocket...

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, a small one.

I’d love to acid dip my 1983 Ford Capri but I’m worried it might come back in a body bag! 🇬🇧

very amazing, what type of acid is used??

Wow I have the almost identical car in the same condition. I have sat on this since 1981 up on blocks in a barn I did a mild build on a 69 351 windsor what did the torque box look like? Also mustang handicap easy to build a 500 to 600 horse windsor but no one makes 1-7/8 headers to exit with the stock shock towers. Alot eliminate them but it kills resale value

Starting from when you started prepping the car to be sent off how much money is invested in this project?

This is a Ruststang

for normal rust how to remove with basic way ?

Would a Dynacorn Body be a better Choice than fixing all the Rot????

Are the new body panels originals from the cars manufacturer?

Great start... Maybe you should now use a metal treatment like POR15 and a good epoxy primer before going further..

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, good call. I think we're going to do epoxy primer.

so, how is the build goes exactly?

The media blast would've left a lot of debris behind in tight areas that you'd be chasing for a long time. Please compare the cost of the Acid dipping to the media blast. If you can, for the cost of the media blast, please estimate the time that might've been needed to bring the body to the level of cleanliness the acid dip gave. Thanks!

How much did you spend on the acid dip?

How are planning to paint the inner cavities and inner rear wheel wels which a spray gun can reach or get into

@VideoCallInShow

2 жыл бұрын

They have nozzles that spray 360 degrees on a wand. That's mandatory for a chem dipped body.

That’s all to be expected, still a solid car though,, most have been wrecked or eaten up with rust or both.. good foundation I agree 🤙

@davebrittain9216

3 жыл бұрын

I don't actually agree with you because It is not a solid car when the floor and frame rails are rotted. Rockers have rot in them too. I personally don't think I would have gone the acid dip route since it was obvious that it needed a complete floor and front frame rails as well as aprons. Paying to clean what you are going to cut out anyway seems like an expense that was not necessary. I never quite trust how well they get the acid out of the pinch seams too. I always worry about issues down the road.

@rockofagesusa7942

3 жыл бұрын

@@davebrittain9216 , That’s ok 👌 Any old Ford is a good foundation ,because every one thats saved isn’t lost to a junk yard,,, If the fella wants to rebuild a fast back MUSTANG back to original , by all means he’s got my vote 🤙

@davebrittain9216

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockofagesusa7942 Ya I hate seeing them get crushed. Saw a video the other day of a guy cleaning up some old farm and he crushed about 15 mustangs, sad to see. I grew up with a family owned junk yard and saw way too many collectable cars go to the crusher. I have two 68 mustangs myself.

@XA351GT

3 жыл бұрын

@@davebrittain9216 I agree , By the time you add up the costs of the dipping process, the panels required and the massive amount and cost of labor it would be cheaper and faster to use a Dynacorn 67 replacement shell. besides you're getting all brand new metal not 55 year old steel that has been eaten with rust and now acid. The Dynacorn uses heavier steel than stock was in 67 . Everything he is talking about you get with the shell. New doors already hung , New trunk lid already hung all included in the price of the shell. I don't see how all this work is worth it especially as he said this car is a base model and nothing special.

@davebrittain9216

3 жыл бұрын

@@XA351GT You have a point but you have to remember the shell is close to 20k these days and by the way the metal is thinner than oem with most all Dynacorn panels. Here in Canada it is illegal to move a vin from one body to another so that would be an issue here where I am unless you fudged it.

You should have taken a hood apart and a decklet apart cuz there's tons of rust in between all those panels acid dipping that's great but you still can't get up and repair what's there until you take the hood apart and the decklid apart same thing with the doors you have to take the skins off the f

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing a new hood and new deck lid.

Not that bad? With all costs considered , dipping, metal, labour? Why not just sell off what you have there & buy an entire new dynacorn shell for 16k? Even comes with new doors and deck lid.

@JoseAguirre-ri8tg

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking. Not even the inner structure looks decent enough to put new metal in it. That shell is just too far gone. He might want to contact the guy from Peterson Restorations...

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

I definitely don't see it that way, but I suppose everyone has their own level of comfort for projects like these.

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Because then I don't have a Ford car? I like the idea of not owning a kit car, and I enjoy the restoration process.

“It really isn’t that bad.” Really?? Best of luck to you as you restore the vehicle. I admire people who have your skills.

Rest of the resto?

I hope it doesn't get to the point where you would have been better off buying a complete Dynacorn fastback body, it really is best to acid dip so you know exactly where you stand. Thanks for doing updates all i could fo when doing mine was taking pictures lol!

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

By the time a project is that far along to figure out a new shell would have been a better option, it's likely you're already too far along to change gears! Ha! I'm happy I went the route I did. I like the idea of starting with an original car, not building one from scratch with new parts. To each their own, though. I definitely don't blame anyone who prefers the new metal route.

@meek01__53

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClassicNation i agree, just from my past experience know costs add up quickly

Idk. Looks like parts to me. Good lu$k on the rebuild. I'm sure it will be awesome.

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Somebody knows what is the price for this procedure ?

As a novice that has zero experience doing sheet metal work where do you even start on this project? WOW, just WOW. 😳🤷‍♂️😃

@ClassicNation

Жыл бұрын

I'm getting some help from some really experienced metal fab and body guys..

Great video. First acid dipped car I see. Very gutsy approach. I’m working on my 66 and feel that I would be way over my 5th budget if I really knew what was underneath. I have a few questions. 1. Was the acid dip part of the original plan? 2. If it’s not asking too much, How much $ do you think your going to toss into the project? I have a 68 that at some point I will restore way after my 66 in part because of how much money goes into a restoration. However I enjoyed this acid dip approach and will strongly consider it when the day comes. I’ll tag along for the build and learn as much as I can from your build. Cheers 🍻

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

1. I was undecided between the acid dip and a media blast, but decided acid dip to make sure that I got all the rust removed, even inside of the frame rails. 2. Paid $3500 for the dip. It definitely costs more than a media blast, but I feel like it was well worth it, given the condition of my car to start with. Thanks for the support!

Look into Mustangs To Fear front clip...

Can you share what acid is used in this process? Since the repairs are going to take awhile, in that time if the metal is not sealed it will flash rust. What product is used to keep it from flash rusting?

@ClassicNation

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure the details on the type of acid, nor the rust inhibitor that was used at the end. I had a vendor do the acid dip. MetalWorks in Eugene, Oregon.

@tiredowalkin

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClassicNation , I understand. Great project, keep us posted and best regards

Oh brother it breaks my heart to see this happens. Can you imagine how many ho rods are hidden rust buckets. Try to buy cars that are from Florida Texas Arizona or California. I airplane stripped my 1969 AMC AMX 390 X CODE WITH EVERY AVAILABLE OPTION. GOO LUCK WITH YOUR BUILD BROTHER. Neal

"Some work"... "not too bad"..... I must be looking at a different car.

@Chadnmurfreesboro

3 жыл бұрын

$14K got this??? Its a Mustang, for chrissake! I say this guy definitely got taken.

@Chillingnutslap

3 жыл бұрын

"Super happy with how it turned out" wtf half the car dissolved

@adamtomala9601

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to say the same. I did not notice one element that does not require serious repair.

@narancs5

3 жыл бұрын

In terms of classic cars this is in fact in fairly good condition. You can find several projects involving ultra-rare cars which are restored from a pile of rust. They are making all panels for it from pictures. Here you can clearly see how it was originally, so you can do precise restoration much easier. Lots of work, yea, but for a car this old this is more than decent.

@cloakedgt

3 жыл бұрын

@@narancs5 no..its not...both front rails, part of the firewall, rockers, entire floor are all gone, inner/outer wheel houses, id even like to see the rear rails which he neglected to show... and thats not even including all the body panels which are pretty much useless other than that one fender, if this is fairly good condition than my 79 T/A would be in excellent condition that just needed dash corners and toe boards also passenger rear pan...wrong.. doesnt matter how old the car is because some cars rotted out on the ships to america..and ive seen cars 5 years old where i live with more rust than this thing..... this thing isn't worth 14k when you can purchase a brand new shell from a company in California for less than what you'd have into this heap...

Ruststang 4 sure! What is the DSO? In the previous video it looked like there was a lot of stress hangin the body by the A pillar only. You paid 14k for the car+ 3.5k for rust removal + the cost of transporting back and forth. What is your estimate for the Eng/trans set-up, body & paint, interior & wheels/tires?

@timfisher77

3 жыл бұрын

hanging the body by the A pillar would be a lot of stress on a complete car. the bare shell like you see it is less than 1000 Lbs & the A pillars are the strongest part of the car

I have a question.....How much does it cost to have a Mustang fastback body dipped???

@rufusdavies2160

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I'd say this cost him $14k as he started with a decent looking car and ended up with a pile of scrap metal.,😭😭