Yeah, SynthV is great and all, but sounding not very human-like is one of Vocaloid's greatest charms. That being said, one of Vocaloid's reasons for falling behind is due to it's ridiculous prices despite it's current quality and accessibility, so yeah...

@Kaitot_t3681

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, also I heard that vocaloid is making a new engin called vocaloid B and it sounds a bit better than vocaloid 6, so maybe in the future we will get a better version of vocaloid for vocaloid 7 if it even happens

@nguyenhuutrung3413

6 ай бұрын

​@@Kaitot_t3681We can only hope, for now I'm looking forward to Piappro studio, I wonder what Kaito NT will sound like when it's finished...

@warmnoodlez

6 ай бұрын

The problem is that the noise engine ends up hindering the success of Vocaloid, since this type of product is aimed at professional music production, not amateurs, so the noise is a disadvantage, which is why Synth V is growing more and more, for having high quality products, attracting investments from this area of the industry such as AH-Software and other companies, in addition to being most requested by music producers who need quality voices! That's why Vocaloid isn't going forward, we're no longer in 2014 for the world to like a hologram girl who has a robotic voice, we're practically in 2024 and we need powerful and realistic voices to sing songs efficiently.

@saruwatarisa

6 ай бұрын

That was the initial point of the Vocaloid, it's a Vocal "Android" and if I remember correctly, that was their point, to sound robotic. But yeah... people wanted the realistic ones. I still like the somewhat robotic sound of Vocaloid but if it's realistic human sounding voices that's not really human, yeah Synth V. I think both has different goals. Still like Vocaloid but also like Synth V. I wanted ALL the cryptonloids to have a Synth V (but personally, I just want the Kagamines LOL) but since they created NT... I feel like that might be a miracle if it comes true.

@marsb0t

6 ай бұрын

the great thing about synthv is that you can have realistic vocals for consumers who need that, while those same voices can also be fine tuned within synthv to sound just as charmingly choppy and robotic as they used to. There’s literally no downside.

I hope this opens up the platform for discussion As a long time vocal synth user, the reason why I almost never used vocaloid was because of a multi-layered issue it had for a lot of years It refuses to adapt and when it does, it's always half-baked. From the tuning UI being fucked to the point where people notebend basic curves bc of how inflexible vocaloid's pitch tool is, to zooming in distorting the UI and the start-up of the program taking 30 years... Vocaloid isn't just behind, it's held together by duct tape and glue, only staying relevant because the community works REALLY hard to make things sound good. Even UTAU has better tools for realism, expression, and pitch control, and it hasn't even officially updated (ik ameya is working on smth) in over a decade! Now contrast that to my experience with SynthV, the devs feel like they completely understand the plights of the community as it supports tuning styles whether you came from vocaloid/utau, it has fantastic vocal quality, a constantly improving engine, and a UI that's both straightforward and an absolute joy to work with I hope synthV shakes vocaloid and has it question its massive price tag

SynthV also has a free version which is also really nice! But yeah Vocaloid is falling behind a bit. I still kinda want vocaloid though just because of Flowers voicebank.

@warmnoodlez

6 ай бұрын

ci flower was a failure, will we see a voicebank for SynthV as powerful as Rose in the transition from Cevio to SV? let's see what happens

Tbh I just care about Yukari and Flower not flopping

@SORA_SODA

5 ай бұрын

Flowerflopped

@emilypatriciagarciacanals4588

2 ай бұрын

I JUST CARE SO MUCH ABOUT ALL OF VOCALOIDS 😭🙏 I literally just want all of them to be alright

the hilarious thing about all this is that crypton actually was part of the team working on teto synthv!! so the fact that NT sounds like...that...is even funnier

@GeneralNuisance00

6 ай бұрын

They weren't. CFM just got twindrill in touch with Dreamtonics but had nothing to do with development.

@HYPNOPOSSUM

6 ай бұрын

@@GeneralNuisance00 oh really??? i had no idea that was the case!!! sorry for the misinfo!

Omg if the Crypton Vocaloids got into SynthV, that would be awesome! I'd love to hear Meiko in SynthV! Crypton really gotta step up their game

MIKI MY BABY THANK YOU SYNTHV THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU KIYOTERU TOO I LOVE SYNTHV SO MUCH GUMI IS ALSO GETTING A VOICEBANK

Idk but I hope that this starts ringing alarms for the people in crypton, even if they have the most popular vb they're really gonna get left behind if they don't do anything abt it lol

I just bought vocaloid today toi get Fukase and it is PAIN. I should've bought SynthV Update: I got SynthV and Kasane Teto!

@kttstrwbry

6 ай бұрын

fukase is silly and lovely though i hope you make many covers and songs with him !

@TehAwesomeGod

6 ай бұрын

@@kttstrwbry yes yes but it's still a pain to tune in vocaloid

Gumi will always be my fav (literally for a year now)

Miki: i have a SynthV voicebank!!! Piko: I'm still death...

I love how human Eleanor sounded when she said "Hi GUMI!~"

LOL the slap got me

poor gumi getting slapped in the face by miku

@ShaloJaxcel-oe4oq

5 ай бұрын

Finally someone talked about it lol

she has an ai Vocaloid vb now shes becoming synthv!

HAHAHAH I LOVE KIYOTERU ACKAAKAK

All i Want for Christmas is SYNTH V MIKI :3

We need to save sachiko I need to use her at least once lol Her voice has always been my favorite

" Have fun in Piapro Studio ". 💀💀💀 We need CryptoLoids and everyone else in SynthV. Luka first. And it's also a chance that Kaito and Meiko will be finally understood while singing. I love them with all of my heart.

Miku's little "mhm" is so cute 🫶😂

Honestly, if the software gets an update or the prices start to match the quality of the product then thats good enough. There is a reason why vocaloids and utau are being used for songs despite programmes like vsynth with more realistic voices existing. Its because some songs like housewife radio, hito mania and bug benifit from the robotic tone of their voice. So im not really that thrilled at gumi getting a vsynth. Especially because it sounds like a stand alone voice with only hints of gumis previous voice, even more so than teto, who still sounds very much like her old voice.

@evrenisprettyuniversal

5 ай бұрын

Bug was actually commissioned by project sekai for a character event, they commission people involved with the vocaloid community specifically, so i don't think it's an exact example... the reason it got commissioned was the vocaloid part. But your point is 100% correct!!!

@DrizzingSakuras

5 ай бұрын

@@evrenisprettyuniversalyeah yeah ik, I'm a pjsekai player and nightcord is my fav group! But I mean like the electronic vocals really complemented mikus voice. But I think a better example would have been a maretu song probably. There are very few people that can pull off a maretu song

BRO BRO BRO BRO WHAT IF.... AND HEAR ME OUT... GAKUPO GETS INTO SYNTH V

@kttstrwbry

5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he's the same company as gumi so it's possible!

Hi gumi!

You can also play Stop Nagging Me for people who think they have never listened to fanloids

KIYOTERU??? OMG NO WAY ME LOVE ME LIKE ME LIVEEEEEE

MikiSV?? Woooo! Finally we’re getting vocaloids ported to someone who actually cares about them as characters and not *just* money

I honestly hope Piko, Fukase, Ritsu, Ruko (Both male and female) and Lily would get their own SynthV AI voicebanks too

Wow gumi... when are you bringing your husband and child to synth v

@DefokoDelicDreamer-eq2cn

6 ай бұрын

GAKUPO AND RYUTO-

@inkytheblink

6 ай бұрын

@@DefokoDelicDreamer-eq2cn bro every vocaloid with poid at the end is part of the poid family😭

I'm probably taking this too seriously but for the vocaloid being twice the price of synth v thing wouldn't the number of voicebanks included with the editor (8 for vocaloid, 1 or 2 for synth v pro) be a decent part of it?

@kttstrwbry

6 ай бұрын

Actually yea that makes sense, I didn't think abt it that way But also SynthV voicebanks are crazy high quality and even less expensive than most vocaloid voicebanks, like miku is 120 bucks still and is hella outdated

@SERAPHIM715

6 ай бұрын

It’s to make up for how crap the audio quality is

1:21 - Wow, so it is true... B-but.. what about Yuki?? 🥺

@kttstrwbry

7 ай бұрын

Her voice provider is all grown up now so idk how'd it work

@pastelflowers9781

7 ай бұрын

@@kttstrwbry I mean, I get that, but they were still able to produce her Vocaloid 4 voice bank despite that fact, and I think that was by taking the already existing samples from her V2. Can't they just do the same thing for SynthV?

@kttstrwbry

7 ай бұрын

@@pastelflowers9781 Oh yeah that is true I hope they can do that, but Idk what the process is in making synthv voicebanks... But now that I think about it maybe a SynthV Yuki would be possible, we'll see once hiyama/miki come out maybe there'll be news ?

@pastelflowers9781

7 ай бұрын

@@kttstrwbry I hope so too.

@KaliopaTsutomu

6 ай бұрын

@@kttstrwbry they could always find someone who sounds like the voice providers younger self or something :/

KIYOTERU IS A SYNTHV NOW???

Honestly, at this point, I feel like even UTAU is better than Vocaloid. Like, OpenUTAU is free, has an accessible interface, and has thousands upon thousands of voicebank options. Its even beginning to get AI voicebanks. Like it's actually kinda sad when you're being beaten by a free program.

@kttstrwbry

6 ай бұрын

UTAU has AI voicebanks? :0

@sheppin_

6 ай бұрын

@@kttstrwbry Yes! They're called ENUNU (I honestly don't know much about it yet, but I do know that Yokune Ruko has a new female ENUNU VB) and Diffsinger (Generally tend to specialize in English from my knowledge. Not super popular yet, but my personal favorite is Peiton DS!) voice banks! At one point ENUNU and Diffsinger were just plugins for the program, but now they're automatically included with the most recent update.

miku wished she had a realistic voice

Gackpo when, Crypton?

ohg is teto voicebank and utau

Crypton is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind tho 💀

It would be funny if they get the AI voices and they say that they can talk normaly now

Can you do a tutorial for ai voices?

nah,miku lover are in your walls💀

Hily fruit, I didn't even know Gumi was also a Synth V Voice bank, how did it happen?

okay wow i missed a lot can someone pls explain

@kttstrwbry

6 ай бұрын

Gumi got an AI voicebank and it sounds soo much better than her vocaloid 6 voicebank, pointing out how much better SynthV is than vocaloid in terms of realism

Pls put vocaloid in synthV! Why that can’t happen?!

VOCALOID IS BETTER (IMO)

Put LUKA in synthV!

@Abn0r3a1_F2ce

4 ай бұрын

And Miku,Rin,I.A and meiko! and also defoko and momo although they are not vocaloid

Kaito: *Wakai mode* GUMI,that's not nice to said that epecialy in front of Miku. And Miku,that's very rude to slap her face like that *angrily scolded both Gumi and Miku* Len: Kaito-nii,calm down Meiko: Well,that's just a daily life of being everyones big brother is. Stoping agruments and fights like you and Rin Luka: I agree Rin and Len: No we don't Teto: Oh yeah, then what about that icident on Good Big Brother Day when the both of you want to spent time with Kaito-san but both of you fight then got each end of his scraff and pull on it tighty on Kaito's neck and he chocked before he passed out. Our masters is very mad but also very angry on the both of you that they gave the both of you a very strict time out Kaito: Yep,it happend

Im still calling it vocaliod

Stuff like this is why Vocaloid 4 is probably the last good Vocaloid engine 💀 which is funny because the only other good one is Vocaloid 2 (which is mostly due to nostalgia) If they actually improved things instead of letting their fandom carry the weight with good songs (mostly on V4) then they'd actually have a future Its no wonder why Crypton tried making their own engine, because the UI and such for Vocaloid 6 sucks! Too bad Miku NT sounds horrible though :/ But I could not imagine Miku being on anything besides vocaloid... so her V4X voicebank may very well be the one people will use (since its still on sale)

Is this an advertisement for synth v?

@kttstrwbry

6 ай бұрын

I didn't mean it to be lmao synthv did not sponsor this video to me it's just vocaloid slander lol

Why does everyone trashes or sass on Miku saying that her and the cryptonloids are getting ignored by Crypton by saying that she has waaayyyy too many stuff sis only has 10 voicebanks Gumi is deadass the Vocaloid to have 18 Voicebanks no joke.

@kttstrwbry

4 ай бұрын

Idk the video isnt meant to be taken that seriously lol but what bothers me is Miku's company focuses too much on merch and not on the voicebanks. Gumi is getting quality voicebanks while Miku is just getting new figures lol

Tbh i like tetos old vc better

Ok but vflower 💔

This is less a talkloid and more the creator of the video expressing their dissapointemnt on crypton

@kttstrwbry

5 ай бұрын

pretty much yeah lol, when I wanna talk about smthing I make vocaloids say it

@Neaxnoir

4 ай бұрын

oh hey you're the guy that's always on the hello street cat streams

@galaxyexpress1020

4 ай бұрын

@@Neaxnoir how did you find me here in this video lol

@Neaxnoir

4 ай бұрын

@@galaxyexpress1020 I'm a vocalo-P on my main account lool

Tbh gumi sv was pretty bad