Abortion (Part 2) | Unpacked with Relebogile Mabotja - Episode 15 | Season 2

2 women who have both had illegal and legal abortions share their challenges and learnings
Studio Guests: Gaopalelwe Phalatsile
Zoom Guests: Lebogang Brenda Motsumi
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  • @Gao_Phala
    @Gao_Phala3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you again Relebogile and team for inviting me and Lebo to share our stories. Thank you for this show, I have been interviewed many times but this was different, it was real, authentic and you spoke to us from a sense of such empathy. Wishing all of you so much success and growth. Your show is changing lives.

  • @nwabisanomgca

    @nwabisanomgca

    3 жыл бұрын

    I stumbled upon your page on insta and I love your mommy content on socials. To hear your story has just made me see how much of a strong woman you really are. Love and light to you❤

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nwabisanomgca Thank you so much sis. This really means a lot to me. I appreciate

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    Arrest me and send me to jail

  • @sphumelelesijadu

    @sphumelelesijadu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-jp3yq8my4i please leave

  • @stellamooibedi9027

    @stellamooibedi9027

    3 жыл бұрын

    She's the best and non-judgmental...

  • @ambrociahventer4576
    @ambrociahventer45763 жыл бұрын

    Yho this for me is so sensitive.. The way that I cried and feeling the same pain again that I felt when I had mine 18 years ago... I didn't know I am still hiding on to this pain. My body just went through that pain again and it's so uncomfortable.. People who rapes put us through a lot.. I am thanking God that he blessed me with 2 beautiful children and a husband.

  • @Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz

    @Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry that happened to you

  • @mpumelelontombela589
    @mpumelelontombela5893 жыл бұрын

    This has made me appreciate my high school principal even more. She took such good care of pregnant learners. From counseling them, informing the parents, ensuring they didn't miss assignment dates and exams. Some if us judged and felt like they got better treatment whereas they have disgraced the school but as I am now an adult I understand why she was so understanding and cared about them. I'm not saying teenage pregnancy is right but we see it all the time. Watching Lebos story made me realize what other students go through. In our school you would get in trouble for making any student feel uncomfortable no matter what the circumstance.

  • @kopanomsiza345
    @kopanomsiza3453 жыл бұрын

    Termination is not easy, I hope more women understand that they don't owe anyone keeping a pregnancy and stories of it might be your last is nonsense. Let's take away the shame of termination. And starve the illegal market and save lives of women.

  • @moitshepisparkles
    @moitshepisparkles3 жыл бұрын

    Rele always ask relevant questions.

  • @AllThingsLindo
    @AllThingsLindo3 жыл бұрын

    Something to ponder on as we all watch this video. We are very good lawyers for our own mistakes, and very good judges for the mistakes of others. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Dont judge people because they sin differently from you. That's all.

  • @user-jp3yq8my4i

    @user-jp3yq8my4i

    2 жыл бұрын

    Abortion kills a human being.

  • @monchoolorato2424
    @monchoolorato24243 жыл бұрын

    I think schools need to educate young girls about abortion In schools,and distigmatize the process.

  • @lwazimsibi7355
    @lwazimsibi73553 жыл бұрын

    Thank you to the ladies who shared their stories with us. It takes a lot of courage to share a story around abortion. It's so traumatic and to anyone who sees this. It is your body and your choice. Do what is right for you. No one has any right to impose any beliefs or their views on you.

  • @annwanjiku5923

    @annwanjiku5923

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @iambloopy
    @iambloopy3 жыл бұрын

    I've learned so much on this channel 🙏 thank you Rele and special thanks to the guests for sharing their stories and educating us 🙏

  • @LethoHali
    @LethoHali3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lebo for this topic. And thank you ladies for being vulnerable to us by sharing your stories! Thank you for being the voice for the voiceless! God bless you all!

  • @nobuhledlamini3481
    @nobuhledlamini34813 жыл бұрын

    I wish the ladies heal and dont blame themselves for what they did in survival mode

  • @stellamooibedi9027
    @stellamooibedi90273 жыл бұрын

    I love that all the questions Relebogile asks are not judgemental for me it qualifies her as the Greatest interviewer I have ever come across

  • @relebogilemabotja215

    @relebogilemabotja215

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏾❤️

  • @queenvee777

    @queenvee777

    2 жыл бұрын

    She is the GOAT

  • @thandolwethu_SibuM
    @thandolwethu_SibuM3 жыл бұрын

    Both episodes were mind opening and informative, I always pray not to judge but to try and put myself in a position so I can understand the situation more better

  • @mphihlengmagoro2957
    @mphihlengmagoro29573 жыл бұрын

    I always vote for the protection of individual rights, freedom and choices. This has to be one of the most difficult decisions anyone can make.

  • @user-jp3yq8my4i

    @user-jp3yq8my4i

    2 жыл бұрын

    Abortion kills a human being.

  • @tumelolobakeng6069
    @tumelolobakeng60693 жыл бұрын

    Lebo and Gaopalelwe were so transparent and honest. I was brought to tears hearing Lebo’s story. No girl or woman should ever have to through that. I love that Gaopalelwe said abortion is not a moral issue, it’s a medical issue. Information is there now, thanks to technology. Safe places like Marie Stopes. I wish something could be done about these illegal establishments💔

  • @user-jp3yq8my4i

    @user-jp3yq8my4i

    2 жыл бұрын

    Abortion kills a human being.

  • @mohauwamorena
    @mohauwamorena3 жыл бұрын

    Rele, can't get tired of giving praise to your hosting skills, but gift... You are amazing ❤️

  • @lumkayamkelamadikazi4636
    @lumkayamkelamadikazi46362 жыл бұрын

    My take from this is that let people have safe abortions. Pregnancy on its own is a risk. So why not allow someone who wants an abortion the freedom to do so safely?

  • @cyliamotsoenengzengele
    @cyliamotsoenengzengele3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for another thoughtful provoking topic and enlightening too.

  • @sipandrelax
    @sipandrelax3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for part 2 ❤️🙏🏾

  • @gugulethunkosi6686
    @gugulethunkosi66862 жыл бұрын

    This conversation is so important. Thank you. 🙏🏽

  • @pontsomudau414
    @pontsomudau4143 жыл бұрын

    To us who like before watching the video 🥂🥂🥂we love you and your work Ausi Relebogile ❤️❤️❤️

  • @bridgettemakgareetsa6269

    @bridgettemakgareetsa6269

    3 жыл бұрын

    🥂🥂

  • @mariampeete7180
    @mariampeete71803 жыл бұрын

    What a deep topic, I am not in support of abortions unless you have been sexually assaulted or raped. But I learned a lot from this episode, I also think its important that we teach young girls about safe sex, contraceptives and emergency contraceptives. Very informative episode.

  • @Yassmiinn.

    @Yassmiinn.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone has the right to choose what they do with THEIR body. It's not for you to "support" it.

  • @lethabomadiga8332

    @lethabomadiga8332

    3 жыл бұрын

    Young girls and boys

  • @nothandomyeni4449

    @nothandomyeni4449

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Yassmiinn. It's not their body that is killed during an abortion. It is the baby's body

  • @Nelca_Mmolayi

    @Nelca_Mmolayi

    3 жыл бұрын

    The thing is whether or not Maria supports abortion, people will still have them if they want to because it's their decision to make.

  • @tebogomaupa_
    @tebogomaupa_3 жыл бұрын

    Tbh whether we like it or not , Abortion will happen . If we keep judging people for doing legal abortions , that will just persuade them to have illegal ones. Easy as that.

  • @eyecandymetirua5238

    @eyecandymetirua5238

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-jp3yq8my4i You get pregnant and keep yours, no ones stopping you....

  • @user-jp3yq8my4i

    @user-jp3yq8my4i

    2 жыл бұрын

    Abortion kills a human being every single time.

  • @annwanjiku5923
    @annwanjiku59232 жыл бұрын

    Thank you rebo for this kind of stories, they help a lot, for me I don't judge anyone course there is a lesson for everything thank you galz

  • @Keekeembhele
    @Keekeembhele3 жыл бұрын

    At the rate that the youth is having sex and unprotected at it, is really scary. The number of unwanted pregnancies and later abused children is also something so scary. I had my legal abortion at a South African Hospital, I was cleaned and given counseling the morning after I spent the night in excruciating pain only to find out I am still pregnant. My baby is a beautiful and healthy 8 year old now...I guess it was not meant to be. I wish information about this was correctly shared and a follow up process was easier.

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, reading such stories gives me so much hope. Thank you for sharing your turth. I see you, I am with you

  • @nomsazwane3505

    @nomsazwane3505

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to sound so insensitive babe and im sorry if i sound like i am but did you bleed whilst they kept you in the hospital??

  • @Keekeembhele

    @Keekeembhele

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nomsazwane3505 yes, I did and a lot... there were clots and yellowish bloody fluids. I bled all night long and was cleaned the next morning

  • @mantelekhitsane3490
    @mantelekhitsane34903 жыл бұрын

    Now my daughter is 19yrs always talk to her hore please talk to me with everything be open to me cz I always have flashbacks of that child in the bucket nd mother helpless on the floor, thank you ladies for sharing ur stories I'm going to give my daughter a chance to listen too.

  • @tebogomaupa_

    @tebogomaupa_

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are honestly a great mom. ❤️❤️❤️

  • @lebohangm7252

    @lebohangm7252

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow I hope you shared that story with her. My 19 year old self would be very grateful if my mom not only told me to be open but shared her experiences to backup her statements cause as children we are very curious we want to know why we shouldn’t, we want to try things out.

  • @bridgetmgaga1095
    @bridgetmgaga10953 жыл бұрын

    Let's not judge we are not God and we all sinned one way or another..no sin is better than the other... thanks beautiful ladies for sharing your story sure it will help alot of woman out there

  • @nothandomyeni4449

    @nothandomyeni4449

    3 жыл бұрын

    However one of the 7 deadly sins that God hates is the shedding of innocent blood

  • @yande_z

    @yande_z

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its hard, what simply is the truth feels like judgement to you because the truth hurts really. It's not always judgement, sometimes it's people that honestly care and love you telling you the truth, but we are humans we will always pick what we want and from the truth someone gives us we choose to pick judgement and not truth, Love has lost value, it should lie to protect your feelings instead if helping you to realise your mistake and heal. We all have sinned, the more reason we have to be our brothers keeper and be truthful as we help them walk to their healing and ours else we are harming them more...

  • @preciousmndaweni5157
    @preciousmndaweni515711 ай бұрын

    This episode was much needed.

  • @sisiphoB
    @sisiphoB3 жыл бұрын

    Lord help us. I think as women we get soo messed up when we find out we are pregnant. We dont give our selves time to think. Fear take hold of us. And at the end we suffer the consiquenses. Having a baby is not that bad. God always provides. But we panic I dont know why.

  • @ellahnokane4536
    @ellahnokane45363 жыл бұрын

    How do hospitals allow illegal services to be advertised on their property. I was referred from a clinic to an illegal clinic 😣 and I lost one of my Fallopian tubes.

  • @NthabisengLetsatsi

    @NthabisengLetsatsi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yoh this is sad sisi. I'm sorry

  • @ellahnokane4536

    @ellahnokane4536

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NthabisengLetsatsi Thank you. One step at a time

  • @desleyntjie7864

    @desleyntjie7864

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love and Light sis🥺🤍

  • @messiahkendrick8803

    @messiahkendrick8803

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why didn't you take pills?

  • @matlhogonolobusang9323
    @matlhogonolobusang93233 жыл бұрын

    I was really triggered with what happened with her first abortion 😢I'm not really supportive of their decisions but I feel it's very important for one to get the right type of help. No one should ever go through such trauma

  • @pulanemoloi5858
    @pulanemoloi585811 ай бұрын

    This is a really sensitive topic, but glad they unpacked it🙏🏽

  • @sizakelediya4080
    @sizakelediya40803 жыл бұрын

    I just think it is very important to be have open communication with your kids and be open minded. It 2021 now it's not 80 or 90 for safety and protection of life let be open minded about abortion. I might not want or see myself in that situation but maybe one day your love one might be in the same situation you can be help that person to save her life. Even if your 16 yrs old is pregnant and want to keep the child let support as mother. First let start educating our kids even about abortion because when they are faced with these situations they talk to their friends than their mothers. Let be open minded South Africa. I don't have kids but one thing I learned through growing up I would have loved to be informed about things I went through as a woman e.g periods, body changing, that's when is it okay for me to date, what to expect and even when I have a committed what to do prevent so many decease and given support to use contraceptive and even knowing about infertility that I'm going through right now instead of going through all by myself. We need to change mind-set so that we can be better mothers. What you wish you talk with your mother but you can't because you know you will judge don't do it in your child life. Let stop instilling fear to innocent kids, yeeey having periods is not a curse , let just open our minds so you don't bury your child because your stigma.

  • @thulilezulu4705
    @thulilezulu47053 жыл бұрын

    5 weeks pregnancy shouldn't even be surgical. Meant to be pills and almost painless

  • @messiahkendrick8803

    @messiahkendrick8803

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also want to use pills,can you tell me please where to get them and how much they cost

  • @thulanitshabalala1983

    @thulanitshabalala1983

    Жыл бұрын

    @@messiahkendrick8803 Go to your nearest clinic or hospital, private or public and they'll help you.

  • @tlameloross9172
    @tlameloross91723 жыл бұрын

    I am here for Gao. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you my friend

  • @mamothusifrancina1132

    @mamothusifrancina1132

    Жыл бұрын

    Who is that?

  • @lebzlee4008
    @lebzlee40083 жыл бұрын

    Yeah ne, people go through the most out there.

  • @Bonisilexaba
    @Bonisilexaba3 жыл бұрын

    Love you Gao ❤️you are so brave.

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Boni. Love you too

  • @Bonisilexaba

    @Bonisilexaba

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gao_Phala owning one's truth is very difficult especially in our 'society' while we don't understand the implications of not owning one's truth: depression, shame, PTSD, not being open to love so I'm bloody proud of you. ❤️

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Bonisilexaba Thank you sis, this means a lot to me.

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joeydlaminivlogs Thank you my love

  • @Thabsile_Thwala
    @Thabsile_Thwala3 жыл бұрын

    Let me be the first to comment by saying, I love your podcast Relebogile

  • @phumuzilendimande5982
    @phumuzilendimande59823 жыл бұрын

    It doesnt matter what any of us thinks is right. What matters is what God says is right which is y we should consult him when we r scared or not sure what to do. Do not be wise in your own eyes fear God and shun evil. You r not ur own, u have been bought with the precious blood of Jesus so glorify God with ur body. Let us stop advocating for abortions and start advocating for truth. Children r blessings from God.where we r not sure lets get on our knees and give it time and the Lord will let us know.

  • @ayakhashumane3424
    @ayakhashumane34243 жыл бұрын

    Wow👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @ZeeInterpretations
    @ZeeInterpretations2 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm... I had my baby when I was 19 and I was not ready... The trauma and shame yooh I wanted to terminate so badly. I think emotionally I would have been able to carry the "shame". The emotions a woman goes through shouldn't go through it alone.

  • @nenesibanda4171
    @nenesibanda41712 жыл бұрын

    This story is just so sad.

  • @michaelkelly9468
    @michaelkelly9468 Жыл бұрын

    If somebody can't raise a child, then giving it for adoption is a good option. Much better than killing.

  • @cyliamotsoenengzengele
    @cyliamotsoenengzengele3 жыл бұрын

    I am so looking for part 1 of this, can't find it😭😭😭😭

  • @ntombizodwantombi3862

    @ntombizodwantombi3862

    3 жыл бұрын

    It available. Research

  • @LM-he7eb

    @LM-he7eb

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/aKV7u5l8mNnNpc4.html

  • @Okuhle14.
    @Okuhle14.3 жыл бұрын

    Gao👏🏽❤

  • @TapiTTwala
    @TapiTTwala2 жыл бұрын

    Unless you are going to Marie stopes clinic. Most girls attempts to get an abortion is very traumatic.

  • @zandramorgan440
    @zandramorgan4403 жыл бұрын

    Abortion is not a form of contraception. You need deliverance. Use valued contraception. Stop advocating abortion that can be mentally and physically damaging. 🙏🏾🦋🙏🏾🦋🙏🏾🦋🙏🏾🦋🙏🏾🦋

  • @philanation4866
    @philanation4866 Жыл бұрын

    What about hiv eish being a woman is hard

  • @candyphillipchipopa7879
    @candyphillipchipopa78793 жыл бұрын

    🙌🙌

  • @estherkhalo4397
    @estherkhalo43973 жыл бұрын

    This is so triggering😭😭😭, had to fast foward where they talk about the way it was done because it just takes me back to that place 8 years ago..

  • @philanation4866
    @philanation4866 Жыл бұрын

    That monster he's out there doing this to other girls.

  • @luciateffu9608
    @luciateffu96082 жыл бұрын

    🥺

  • @jeanmmanga
    @jeanmmanga Жыл бұрын

    I know this is an unpopular opinion but why would a woman keep getting pregnant (not from rape) yet she's not ready for children? And you keep going for abortions? Why not use contraceptives until ready to have one? First time was understandable, but the following 2 times? Nah!!

  • @labrytdt8206
    @labrytdt82063 жыл бұрын

    First I think its okay. But 2, 3 and more naaahh fam. You are old enough to take prevention if u dont want a child. Just sayin

  • @phindilepetros3534

    @phindilepetros3534

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @nthabisengfotoyi4469

    @nthabisengfotoyi4469

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately women don't choose how many times they get raped in their lifetime.

  • @fulufhelanitshivhasa216

    @fulufhelanitshivhasa216

    3 жыл бұрын

    To a certain extend I agree , even with rape there are measures you can take to protect yourself to avoid more tragedies. It’s a matter of being informed, and we can not blame our families for not informing us enough about such issues . I feel like you should make it your responsibility to educate yourself on certain matters . One thing I can advice ladies is to not be naive , you had sex ? Take a pregnancy test . Whether there are signs or not .You got raped? Reach out and get assistance, there are people who are more than willing to assist you without judging you . Just be informed.

  • @Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz

    @Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz

    2 жыл бұрын

    But rape?

  • @motherofcubs
    @motherofcubs3 жыл бұрын

    Rape victims it's really understandable but in a relationship why not use contraceptives, they are free. Some people threshold of pain is enjoyable, I really don't understand the level of addiction to abortion the lady in studio.

  • @phethilezulu9874
    @phethilezulu9874 Жыл бұрын

    TOP is very sensitive hard to talk about

  • @reneleonkuna9343
    @reneleonkuna9343 Жыл бұрын

    Yes we mustn't judge but let's just prevent guys please am not judging them please

  • @Godsmasterpiece33
    @Godsmasterpiece333 жыл бұрын

    The lady in studio... I disagree with her on some of her points.

  • @mphomajoro5509

    @mphomajoro5509

    3 жыл бұрын

    I also agree

  • @tlameloross9172

    @tlameloross9172

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's OK.

  • @phindilepetros3534

    @phindilepetros3534

    3 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely agree with you.

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    I personally do not expect everyone to agree with me.

  • @gugulethunkosi6686

    @gugulethunkosi6686

    2 жыл бұрын

    You don't have to agree, it's not your story or your opinion...

  • @jaiyaalexandra144
    @jaiyaalexandra1443 жыл бұрын

    Think about the voiceless fetus.

  • @user-bm3un3ct2g
    @user-bm3un3ct2g2 жыл бұрын

    Shameless killer.

  • @user-jp3yq8my4i
    @user-jp3yq8my4i2 жыл бұрын

    THE EASY WAY OUT. SHAMELESS KILLERS.

  • @jaiyaalexandra144
    @jaiyaalexandra1443 жыл бұрын

    So Gao doesn't believe in contraceptives but believes in abortion? As for "It's my body", poor men lose their kids.

  • @ladybee1909

    @ladybee1909

    3 жыл бұрын

    What men? Because a lot of them run away from the time they're being told about the pregnancy? 🙄

  • @Godsmasterpiece33

    @Godsmasterpiece33

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ladybee1909 what about those who dont run?

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where did I say I do not believe in contraceptives? Are they 100% safe. What kids? a feotus is not a kid and men walk away from children who are born every single day.

  • @yande_z

    @yande_z

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gao_Phala you were abused, that's so sad, no human deserves that, my apologies. And whatever decision you make is really entirely yours, but life does begin at conception, whether a foetus or not, that's life, the argument is not about the state of life but one's decision to deal with the result. I hope you're better now

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Nthabi14 Your opinion does not bother me at all. You can hold it, just don't think I will believe it just because you do. Its a fact in your head.

  • @mrmanq9517
    @mrmanq95173 жыл бұрын

    3 ABORTIONS?????????😒 😞 uManto yena??? You murdered 2 kids

  • @minniesihlobo5054

    @minniesihlobo5054

    3 жыл бұрын

    😭So she had 3?but only God can judge, we will never understand her situation

  • @Gao_Phala

    @Gao_Phala

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and I do not regret a single one of them.

  • @cassandramabote6089

    @cassandramabote6089

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mr ManQ... you can’t tell me you watched the entire episode and still have that mentality around this issue. I’m disappointed! Please take me out of my misery and tell me you only saw that part and decided to come and drop this comment 🥺

  • @stellamooibedi9027

    @stellamooibedi9027

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gao_Phala le gone ke eng banna bone are not using contraceptives. It's always women that are held accountable for pregnancy as if they had sex with themselves...Big up for you for speaking your mind and telling your story, most of those that are quick to judge for me it's usually projection

  • @LM-he7eb

    @LM-he7eb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gao_Phala Do you mind me asking how different the procedure was, when you were older.

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