wow, this lady stephanie, she is so articulate and full of information that seems to be hidden from the public. very informative

@yisian4747

5 жыл бұрын

she is so wrong tho

@vjbragae

4 жыл бұрын

@@yisian4747 yes... she is wrong. I wont tell you why, but she is SO wrong

@yisian4747

4 жыл бұрын

Víctor J. Braga lol

For any pro-choicers out there, could you please link me to an abortion debate, where the opposition didn't get plastered? I would honestly like to see one...

@vanderlin4966

6 жыл бұрын

Think about this good and hard - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZyrttmCiLeXeKg.html

@TheWorldsStage

5 жыл бұрын

@@vanderlin4966 Links to a removed video

@88feji

4 жыл бұрын

How interesting is it that people who think the pro-choice speaker got plastered are "coincidentally" pro-lifers ...

@Seethi_C

3 жыл бұрын

@@88feji Do you think Dr Fellows won this debate?

@Seethi_C

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanderlin4966 Who was debating in this video? It looks like it was removed

God bless you Stephanie Gray for all the good work that you do!!!

I actually feel bad for Dr Fraser. He mumbled and talked so low that I could barely hear him, and his only argument was that society wants abortion. In fact, even with closed captions were very wrong a lot as his speech was so poor. Gray on the other hand had a series of arguments.

@grezdaed

4 жыл бұрын

Well he had to concede that she is a professional debater. I was surprised to see that his opening remarks didn't take the full 20 minutes. All I got from his argument was that women that are willing to kill their unborn children will have a higher risk of death when abortion is illegal. He also argued that women may just have the baby and kill it later. For him, death is inevitable for the unwanted child so he'll just collect the paycheck and perform the operation of abortion safely.

@laurentheheiress98

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, I can barely understand him. He must be ashamed that’s why he speaks so low and mumbled

Good and Evil at the same table.

Anybody who watches this debate and still leaves pro choice is just pure evil.

@chrischutebox

8 жыл бұрын

+Gerald Boulin They clearly prove their reactions of evidence, how they fail to hold any logical points and are very contradicting.

@TheDarkGBJ

8 жыл бұрын

***** what do you mean? Who is they?

@chrischutebox

8 жыл бұрын

Gerald Boulin Sorry that was not clear lol. They meaning pro choicer fail to hold any logical arguments when a pro choicer debates.

@TheDarkGBJ

8 жыл бұрын

***** exactly, but then again, that would be any form of liberalism lol

@tatortfanforever864

8 жыл бұрын

+Gerald Boulin I fail to see how I should have any control over YOUR uterus, or YOU over mine? Don't like abortions? Don't get one! That's how far YOUR rights go. Choose life! Don't worry about MY choice.

Stephanie wrecked this "doctor" just as he does with the unborn babies...

at 24:40 when they show real abortion footage.... I once thought that I would do that to my child but then the thought gave me nightmares. I feel like the idea of "easy abortion" is an abuse to girls leaving them vulnerable. Luckily I grew up without making that terrible mistake and eventually became prolife once I understood that abortion is not an easy out and it does do harm.

thanks for doing this debate

48:48 “Doing an abortion is not something one is proud of, but providing a safe abortion is something to be proud of.” 🤔mmmmmm come again

@KSharon13

4 жыл бұрын

With the 2 people involved, Mom & babe, abortion is debatibly safe for Mom but definitely not safe for babe

@judevine1

4 жыл бұрын

Staycie did you know that an ex-planned parenthood provider informed that many a times after botched abortion where baby comes out alive, they are then just left to die. And in some cases survive even that - just google the number of abortion survivors. As you are so pro-abortion, you can volunteer to offer yourself for post birth abortion (I don't mean it but hope my last statement wakes you up finally). Really I wish you the best, as you too should wish everyone the best including the foetus (and not just the mother). The strong must protect the week and defenceless and fight and even die for them. God bless you.

@ironymatt

4 жыл бұрын

@@judevine1 Jude Noronha I'm pretty sure Staycie is on your side. If you reread her post, you'll see that she's pointing out the inhuman absurdity of what the pro-abortion speaker is saying in this debate, as evidenced by the timestamp provided in her comment.

Hi @Rc Crawford. I only came across this video and the comments this week. Sorry I didn't see this earlier. Are you still around? I wanted to give a reply to your comments you made. If you are around, then I can start work on my response. Thanks.

Fellow talks so looooow.. I cant understand his words further. -.- Stephanie tho said a billion words.

:( This video is too quiet

It is nice that Stephanie left her catholicism out of the debate. It is a shame that the comments section on these types of videos is always full of religious fanatics showint that their involment on abortion debate is about dogma, not about a sociological and medical issue.

This guy needs 10 microphones

Logically, Ms Gray has the stronger argument re. human rights apropos the unborn child, & breast cancer risk [while not a statically high probability, it is certainly a possibility & a real factor in a number of cases; there is no logical argument as to why it would not be, frankly]. As to the impact of illegal abortion & the fact that such often deadly options are pursued regardless of the risk at aprox. equal rates to their safer legal counterparts, the Doctor has the stronger position, & he is utterly correct to state that a focus on prevention is vital & very helpful all around.*Now, both ignore the fact that abortion on the pregnant person's end does not only affect women, but also hermaphrodites such as myself [who has never wanted or had an abortion, & is overall more male than female but pregnancy capable, & the parent of a child had by rape], & some men. This is an important point because it not only rids us of the ridiculous gender politics surrounding this important moral issue, but also affords proper address & ensuant aid to those of us who are pregnancy capable non-women.*The morality of this matter is essentially this : It is immoral & unquestionably murder & torture to kill the prenatal child, & it is also immoral & unquestionably torture to force a person to continuously provide life-support for another person for a certain period of time, & to undergo all the often permanent physical changes a full-term pregnancy brings with it, & the physical agony of birth. Both of these facts are valid, & logically undeniable. Neither will go away because one biased side or the other wishes it would. The solution, the only wholly moral solution, is this : We must pool our resources on this matter to the development of artificial womb technology, so that in one stroke we save the child & spare the person of any age & gender the unwanted pregnancy. This is what we must strive for, this & a campaign of prevention that involves providing all non-abortion based forms of birth control, as well as advice & support for those who chose abstinence. People can have 'physical relations' with each other & act in entirely moral & loving ways, just as they can be abstinent & do so, but either way, whether you do or do not agree with the manner in which they elect to live, we can agree that no child should be murdered nor that any person should be tortured by forcibly undergoing a life-changing & painful experience, so let us end this circuit of endless partial victory & go forth at last to win a true solution.

@grezdaed

4 жыл бұрын

Your argument is a bit flawed. When abortion is illegal, women, that don't want the baby but still give birth due to the inability of finding an abortionist, will have a higher chance of a survival rate than the unborn child. There's no denying that a woman that doesn't want her unborn child will likely suffer if she can't find an abortionist. However, she will live in most cases. On the other hand, once she finds an abortionist, her child will surely die. Who suffers the most? Instead of hoping for an artificial womb, why not focus on ending the woman's suffering without the need of killing her child? Why kill the unborn now as we wait for the development of your artificial womb? Our society can focus on helping women that are pregnant now regardless of circumstances.

@kylehobkirk2902

2 жыл бұрын

No one is forcing a woman to be pregnant. We are simply stating that a woman should not have a license to kill her unborn child. There is a fundamental difference between these two things. If you focus attention on the former, you must dehumanize the unborn child in order to justify your position of providing a license to kill the unborn child. If you focus on the latter, we can all attain common ground by recognizing that human rights begin at conception and the unborn child is a human being who ought be protected. Remember, whenever we seek to dehumanize a specific group of people belonging to the human family, egregious human rights violations always follow.

1:05:09

@jimmymelonseed4068

2 жыл бұрын

Plain and simple. Smoking gun.

What’s wrong with his body language? Crossed arms and mumbling? I can barely understand him.

She claims that abortion harms women, but humiliation and force doesn't.

@chrischutebox

10 жыл бұрын

you see the problem here is abortion harms the women and kills another innocent human being. force? now what do you mean by this to force a women to give birth and not be allowed to kill her unborn child? here is the fact is no one should have the right to kill their innocent unborn child. The pro choice stance is very much illogical and contradicting as we even see in this debate. The pro choice stance NEVER follows a logical stance proving there very invalid on there stance. They say its a womens body a women choice but yet they want to limit the killing of the unborn at a certain stage . proving they do not believe a women body a womens choice . So how is it you people say ''womens body womens choice'' but yet limit abortion ? PROVING they are against a womens body a womens choice . it follows no logic.

@RosannaMiller

10 жыл бұрын

*****, I am not pro-choice per se. I am pro-free will. Who said anyone has a right to rape, murder, etc? That has nothing to do with this issue. Obviously, you aren't preventing anyone from raping, murdering, and/or having an abortion either. So tell me where your logic is? Looking back, when I became pregnant, I did not have people in my face, telling me what to do and I am thankful to Jesus for that. Here is a fact, you don't have a right to impede on a woman's free will. There are pedos and rapists and murderers in the world, all around you.....yet I bet you aren't knocking on their doors telling them what they can and cannot do. Do you believe in Jesus Christ? It doesn't matter what I believe in regards to other women. I pray for them and trust the same Lord that led me when I was pregnant. I say that we belong to God and He is more than capable of leading even the most rebellious of us. He opens doors that no one can close and closes doors that no one can open. Of course I have my opinion about abortion. I know when I was pregnant, I did not choose it, it actually made me sick at the thought of it. It doesn't bother me to think about a woman who chooses to have an abortion before the child's able to feel and think. I do not believe it is murder at that point but then again only God, who is with her can judge the truth of that for her. He knows her situation. I cannot stand watching and hearing people judge all women generally as being the same and they are not. Again, I am not one of those, it's a woman's body and a woman's choice, people. I am a, it's God's child and her God given free will, kind of people. When a child is able to feel and think, I believe that being takes on it's own life....which means that it's God's child and the child's free will must be protected then. To me, an abortion at the earliest stage is no different from a woman who has a miscarriage aka spontaneous abortion.

@chrischutebox

10 жыл бұрын

Rosanna Miller I am not pro-choice per se. I am pro-free will. Who said anyone has a right to rape, murder, etc? That has nothing to do with this issue. Obviously, you aren't preventing anyone from raping, murdering, and/or having an abortion either. So tell me where your logic is? >>>Your pro free will do have the freedom to kill another innocent human being. Now no matter how your try to ignore that fact or how you want to word it. Your for a women having the right to kill her unborn child and this is very immoral. I have used the examples of murder because in FACT the only difference from murder is the legality in it. other then that it is murder the killing of the unborn. >>Abortion is very immoral like i have said like murder, rape, these acts are very immoral and its because of the EVIDENCE in proving how immoral abortion is. along with every other immoral act. Looking back, when I became pregnant, I did not have people in my face, telling me what to do and I am thankful to Jesus for that. Here is a fact, you don't have a right to impede on a woman's free will. There are pedos and rapists and murderers in the world, all around you.....yet I bet you aren't knocking on their doors telling them what they can and cannot do. >WOW! you thank Jesus for that? and why is it Jesus and the bible speaks out against abortion? Abortion is the worst or one of the worst things someone can do according to Christianity >>FREE WILL to kill another innocent human being a free will to kill your child? here is the facts abortion KILLS A INNOCENT HUMAN BEING. Its fact proven with science the unborn are living human beings who are unborn children. you keep saying free will and the free will to kill . sorry that is very immoral. >>You make no logical sense in the pedo , rapist example. Because If these people do this immoral act they should be punished . so YES we are against people who do this also. IDK how you think your making logical sense. . Do you believe in Jesus Christ? It doesn't matter what I believe in regards to other women. I pray for them and trust the same Lord that led me when I was pregnant. I say that we belong to God and He is more than capable of leading even the most rebellious of us. He opens doors that no one can close and closes doors that no one can open. >>>amazing,. please don't tell me your trying to say Jesus would be for abortion .ARE YOU SEROUS? now how is it that Christianity is against abortion how the catholic church is against abortion. BECAUSE ITS IN THE BIBLE. would u like the verses that speak about the unborn? come on now. Do you think Jesus would be for your free will to kill your child when you were pregnant with them? ask yourself that question do you believe that you honestly had the right to kill the child you have today when you were pregnant with them. of course not. I suggest you accept the teaching of Christianity because if you think it supports abortion your out of your mind. Let me know if you want the verses that proves the unborn are living human beings who are children. Of course I have my opinion about abortion. I know when I was pregnant, I did not choose it, it actually made me sick at the thought of it. It doesn't bother me to think about a woman who chooses to have an abortion before the child's able to feel and think. I do not believe it is murder at that point but then again only God, who is with her can judge the truth of that for her. He knows her situation. I cannot stand watching and hearing people judge all women generally as being the same and they are not. >>Feeling or think does not make it unhuman or not your child. The facts are ITS YOUR CHILD and science proves a living human being. >>>Oh im sorry we are telling women they cant kill her child so we cant say this horrible act is wrong. THINK OF WHAT YOUR SAYING! here is a women who is killing her child but yet we cant judge? Its like the women dumping her baby in the trash . ''oh now we cant judge'' this is how exactly how your logic is going because killing your born or unborn is in fact killing your child. Again, I am not one of those, it's a woman's body and a woman's choice, people. I am a, it's God's child and her God given free will, kind of people. When a child is able to feel and think, I believe that being takes on it's own life....which means that it's God's child and the child's free will must be protected then. To me, an abortion at the earliest stage is no different from a woman who has a miscarriage aka spontaneous abortion.  >>You think God wants people to have free will to kill another human being and let this horrible act be allowed? lol >>FEEL OR THINK. does not mean anything but feel and think. Now this is why your arguments do not follow any logic at all. BORN human beings do not feel or think. someone in a comma. does not think., someone who has a rare birth defect does not feel or think and can we kill them? of course not but according to your logic of ''feel;; think'' this devalues a human being ? >>Now listen to what your saying you keep saying ''to me'' now lets look at the facts. abortion in the early stages is okay but not in the early? you follow NO LOGIC. and this is why your stance in invalid. because again your saying we can kill your unborn child during this age but not this age. it follows no logic. >>No matter what stage your unborn child is in the act of killing your child is KILLING YOUR CHILD. it does not matter how early or later the act is the same thing and that is killing your child. >>zygote,embryo,fetus,baby, ext ext for a SCIENTIFIC fact we are a living human being and should not be killed. we do not slowly turn into human beings . I suggest you honestly understand that Christianity speaks out very much against abortion.

@coolblaze442

10 жыл бұрын

Rosanna Miller Well when did you gain he ability to reason and make choices? Certainly not directly after birth. So killing infants is okay in your view who don't have the capacity to reason and make deliberate choices as we do now. Do you see an inconsistency there?

@RosannaMiller

10 жыл бұрын

Cool Blaze, where or how in the world did you conclude that I believe that killing infants was ok? It is because God made things the way they are that women have that right. Do I pray that she, like me, comes to the conclusion that the miracle growing inside of her is something so wonderful that there is no way that she could consider an abortion? ABSOLUTELY. But see that is what we call FAITH in the Christian world. Jesus said we merely need to ask this mountain to be moved.....and if we have faith but of a mustard seed, it would be thrown into the sea. I have it, where is yours? Or isn't your God in control and/or able? Or do you not believe in God and we are wasting each others' time?

as said in my video's: Stephanie Gray supports abortion! i.e. when the women's life is in danger! And Stephanie admits it! So her pro-choice stance seems a bit hypocritical, to say the least!

@johnlee6780

10 жыл бұрын

I think you misunderstand her position. I suggest you study the nature of double effect on atopic pregnancy where the fetus is growing in the woman's tube. When this happens, the death of both of the child and mother are in play. Under this circumstance - it is permissible to remove the fetus in order to save the mother's life.

@buckman2170

10 жыл бұрын

When BOTH will die or only one will die, unfortunately one death is the "better" choice. But removing a cancerous uterus that will kill the mother AND the baby is NOT the same as aborting (suctioning the brain, pulling apart, burning from the inside out, etc) the baby. Also, if the baby in the uterus is able to live outside the womb, than the baby will be taken care of and live. If the baby is not far enough along, that is a very unfortunate reality. With ectopic pregnancies, most babies will die on their own before they get to the point where the mother's life is in danger, or they will drop down into the uterus and develop normally. When that is not the case, the tube has to be removed to keep the mother from dying along w/ the baby. As for chemo and radiation, a baby does not have to be aborted before those procedures are done. Most of the time, the baby will be fine. If not, you didn't ACTIVELY kill the baby; it was an unfortunate consequence of saving the mother's life. This is Josh's wife, Abra, typing.

@chrischutebox

10 жыл бұрын

This is very ignorant of a statement . PRO LIFERS are fighting for the unborn life including the mothers life. we want to save the unborn AND the MOTHERS LIFE! this has been the stance the whole time and it still does not change. Now pro lifers are against KILLING the unborn when they do not need to kill them . Lets look at the facts most of all women will not DIE from there unborn so this means there is no need to kill your unborn . The reason why women get abortions is NOT TO SAVE HER LIFE. it is for other reasons that follow no logical sense meaning there stance is very invalid. This is how the pro choicer never follows a logical stance in debates. They keep saying a ''womens right a womens body' okay so lets use this logical stance of ''womens body womens choice' if this is the case then why would most pro choicer be against the killing of the unborn at ANY TIME for ANY reason? until your born it is a womens body meaning it should be a womens choice. But pro choicer will even disagree with themselves. PROVING to be contradicting and illogical, Pro choicer are for 2 counts of murder when a pregnant women is killed but when she wants a abortion its a choice and not murder ? now again this is CONTRADICTING. because its wrong to kill the unborn or not. no MATTER WHO kills the unborn it is wrong or not. Because its contradicting to say well mom can kill you but no one else can its the same exact logic .

@TheDarkGBJ

8 жыл бұрын

+Brett Strong Are you still hoping people buy your b.s?

@MrBrettStrong

8 жыл бұрын

Gerald Boulin ... there U go again, more childish name calling without one argument ... U R the definition of an idiot

Why do only doctors get titles? Why not call him Fraser the same way you call her Stephanie? This puts doctors on a pedestal which they do not deserve.

@grezdaed

4 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding me? Doctors that commit their lives to serving others are admirable. With that said, I'd likely call the dude an abortionist before I'd call him a doctor.

My body, my choice !

@mikeb112093

8 жыл бұрын

Good thing you're not a fetus, because then you wouldn't be able to say that

@Sarachouska

8 жыл бұрын

For sure as a fetus have no consciousness...

@mikeb112093

8 жыл бұрын

Neither do people in a coma, I guess we can kill them too

@Sarachouska

8 жыл бұрын

Fetus never had a consciousness... And it cannot use a woman uterus against her will, it's not his body.

@mikeb112093

8 жыл бұрын

+Sarah Chm A comatose person was once conscious, and a fetus will once be conscious--what's your point? And the fetus is not using the woman's uterus against her will, it was her will to have sexual intercourse, the act of reproducing life. In the case of rape it was the offender who used her reproductive system against her will, but that is not any fault of the fetus

the jewish dude calling himself "Stephanie" is a monster - bringing up gore all the time.