Abnormal Grooves - why vinyl is better than CDs and MP3s

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Some vinyl records have cleverly arranged grooves to delight and confuse the listener. Here's my collection.
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  • @GFmanaic
    @GFmanaic6 жыл бұрын

    Admit it, you just wanted a good reason to play with the ladybug book.

  • @SteveMould

    @SteveMould

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's *really* fun.

  • @mal2ksc

    @mal2ksc

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I heard the track "touches itself" I instantly thought "demonetized!"

  • @Netherexio

    @Netherexio

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SteveMould My sister has the same exact book and I always try to find it.

  • @logangrove4103

    @logangrove4103

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol this was so funny

  • @philippemichelvidori7248

    @philippemichelvidori7248

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SteveMould I never hold my vinyls like this

  • @EebstertheGreat
    @EebstertheGreat4 жыл бұрын

    7:49 Real horse racing is also basically a really tedious way of rolling a die.

  • @millomweb

    @millomweb

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you don't want boring, set up an automatic Worms game.

  • @jeffjackson6354

    @jeffjackson6354

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you don't want tedious run Worms with actual tanks.

  • @zwz.zdenek

    @zwz.zdenek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Throwing a wrench into the gears, real horse racing is a tedious way of just burning your cash.

  • @shahabazkhan1

    @shahabazkhan1

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, it totally depends on the performance of the horses, if you have like 4 champion horses then you choose one of them right? It's basically a sport. You can't say a whole world cup event of some sport is a tedious way of rolling the die can you?

  • @Llamagoyf

    @Llamagoyf

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shahabazkhan1 I can and I will.

  • @TristanBomber
    @TristanBomber6 жыл бұрын

    We just need to encode "Dormammu, I've come to bargain" on that lock groove.

  • @MrDoboz

    @MrDoboz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Someone has to make that lol

  • @peppidesu

    @peppidesu

    3 жыл бұрын

    you don't need to encode anything. the thing inscribed is literally the waveform of the music

  • @dumchican

    @dumchican

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peppidesu Well, it's encoding air pressure into side to side movement of a metal stylus. It's kind of like encoding something from written on a piece of paper into a punch card or as ascii, it conveys the same information, it's just in a different format.

  • @albert_the_cool8092

    @albert_the_cool8092

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its been two years but SynthRose you are an absolute genius

  • @maxrodgers5702

    @maxrodgers5702

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@albert_the_cool8092 agreed

  • @billyfairbank
    @billyfairbank5 жыл бұрын

    "Where have I hidden your keys?" lol! Your poor parents.

  • @Kenionatus

    @Kenionatus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good thing it's only got three possible answers :)

  • @ryansamarakoon8268

    @ryansamarakoon8268

    4 жыл бұрын

    How do you even engrave into a tiny vinyl with tools a kid would find?

  • @evelynphipps610

    @evelynphipps610

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ryansamarakoon8268 He could just change the face of the card

  • @ryansamarakoon8268

    @ryansamarakoon8268

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@evelynphipps610 no the card just acts as a pointer to a specific track on the vinyl. You can't store data on them

  • @janemorrow6672

    @janemorrow6672

    3 жыл бұрын

    In a pigsty.

  • @AuroCords
    @AuroCords6 жыл бұрын

    This means that time travel to the past IS possible! All we need is a machine that travels forwards, and THEN switch the battery around like on that toy robot. Nobel prize please.

  • @unclejimmy7

    @unclejimmy7

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know you're just making a joke here, but the analog to flipping the battery around would be negative energy or mass. In theory, if you had negative energy, you could reverse the flow of time.

  • @djedg10

    @djedg10

    6 жыл бұрын

    Reverse the polarity!

  • @jasondashney

    @jasondashney

    6 жыл бұрын

    ...but don't cross the streams.

  • @twirlipofthemists3201

    @twirlipofthemists3201

    6 жыл бұрын

    Important safety tip.

  • @bjornnilsson1222

    @bjornnilsson1222

    6 жыл бұрын

    Auro Cords 💩💩👻🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿👦🏿👦🏿💍🤙🏿👅🤙🏿👶🏿👶🏿👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀💋👄✍️✍️

  • @dan_tr4pd00r
    @dan_tr4pd00r6 жыл бұрын

    Favourite bit of insanity about the Matching Tie and Handkerchief record: even though it says the record comes free alongside the matching tie and handkerchief, you weren't always guaranteed to get one or the other with your purchase.

  • @thedoublek4816
    @thedoublek4816 Жыл бұрын

    There were also vinyls which only consisted of locked grooves. Those were made for DJs (hip hop and electronic) who wanted to do some live remixing by playing some loops, like additional rhythm tracks etc., over the main track and were aptly named "DJ Tools". A popular kind of those tools were focusing on drum breaks, like those instrumental drum solos often found on Funk records (think "Amen Brother", "Funky Drummer" or "It's a New Day"). The locked grooves contained loops which had to have a certain tempo in order to seamlessly loop over (most turntables have a pitch / speed control, so adjusting the loop tempo to the main track you want to "enhance" is not a problem anyway), 133 1/3 BPM. However, hitting the right groove could be tricky.

  • @ReferenceFidelityComponents

    @ReferenceFidelityComponents

    Жыл бұрын

    They’re not called “vinyls” they’re called “records” or “LPs”

  • @wj11jam78

    @wj11jam78

    Жыл бұрын

    groovy

  • @davideranieri5553
    @davideranieri55536 жыл бұрын

    Coincidentally, I listened to Sgt. Pepper for the first time on vinyl after having it on CD for a long time. I remembered the phantom track at the end, but of course, it lasts a limited amount of time on a CD. I spent a good minute or two waiting for the thing to finish before realizing the track was looping on itself... I felt like an idiot afterwards...

  • @duroxkilo

    @duroxkilo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Human Resources chill bro, nothing travels faster than light :}

  • @vasilivanich3842
    @vasilivanich38426 жыл бұрын

    "I'm trolling (...), obviously everyone agrees that CDs and MP3s have better audio quality than vinyl, that's not controversial" lol

  • @TarekMidani

    @TarekMidani

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol, sorry but CD's contain highly compressed forms of audio 😂 your title is actually correct, vinyl is better

  • @MovingThePicture

    @MovingThePicture

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tarek Midani CDs are uncompressed 🤦

  • @truephysics2835

    @truephysics2835

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sigh, this is going to be a comment chain I assume... No, vinyl does not give you "better" audio. The compression for MP3 is essentially inaudible, though yes, it does exist. However, it is absolutely nothing at all compared to the inconsistent and horrible frequency response you get from a vinyl player. You can not produce high amplitude signals in the high and low-frequency range from a vinyl, so the players often have amplifiers to boost these frequencies, that is they have equalisers. The equalisers are not all exactly the same and thus you get different audio from different players. Also, the vinyls themselves have tolerances, degrade, have issues with dust, ... If you are after high fidelity, vinyl is the wrong thing to look for. That doesn't mean it sounds bad though. Just like tube amplifiers which are way, way "worse" than solid state since they are horribly non-linear, they can produce nice sounds. It is just utterly wrong to say they are more accurate to what the artist wanted it to sound like, that is they are not high fidility.

  • @Noise-Bomb

    @Noise-Bomb

    6 жыл бұрын

    To clearify: Every sane person.

  • @ViniOnTheRocks

    @ViniOnTheRocks

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vinyl is romantic. That I can give it.

  • @pun-isher1501
    @pun-isher15016 жыл бұрын

    I once made a playable disc out of vinyl in 10 minutes. That is a *record*

  • @Milamberinx

    @Milamberinx

    6 жыл бұрын

    I once made a playable disc that represents the heavenly body on which we live. That's a world record.

  • @MarkTillotson

    @MarkTillotson

    6 жыл бұрын

    Letter printed in an English newspaper in 1978 went something like: "Dear sir, I was born in '33 and am now, in '78, aged 45 - is this a record?"

  • @gabriel38g

    @gabriel38g

    6 жыл бұрын

    Playable Disc from CD in 5 minute video kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6ltk5VyfKevk5c.html

  • @-danR

    @-danR

    5 жыл бұрын

    5 minutes later, you accidentally stepped on it. Record broken.

  • @unnamedchannel2202

    @unnamedchannel2202

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Human Resources, it was the Mirror. But now it is broken as tubeist- dan accidentally stepped on it.

  • @SteelSkin667
    @SteelSkin6676 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting stuff, while I did know about infinite run-out grooves, I didn't realise that those multi-track records existed. I too really like vinyl records not because of how they sound, but because of the way they work. Not to mention the artwork.

  • @DamiontheSpawn

    @DamiontheSpawn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Want to know something even crazier? There are records that when played the needle moves from the center outward. Techmoan has a great video on it.

  • @georgeprice7922

    @georgeprice7922

    6 жыл бұрын

    DamiontheSpawn And then there's Jack White's "Lazaretto", which not only has the inside out groove, but hidden tracks pressed into the labels (one plays at 45 and the other at 78).

  • @paulmichaelfreedman8334

    @paulmichaelfreedman8334

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DamiontheSpawn Think about it , had trey done that from the start (AND CDs also play from the centre outward) it would have made the mechanics of a record player much easier.

  • @paulmichaelfreedman8334

    @paulmichaelfreedman8334

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jayden Whitcomb The natural properties of vinyl and Tube amps sort of hide distortion, especially the amps tubes have a natural compressor function, rounding the distortion peaks and making it sound less distorted.

  • @Trev9

    @Trev9

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@paulmichaelfreedman8334 soft clipping

  • @consubandon
    @consubandon4 жыл бұрын

    Somewhere here, amongst my three-sided Monty Python records, I've also got a copy of the 1812 Overture from the early-1980s days of audiophile digital vinyl. In order to more fully reproduce the cannon shots (the engineers of this particular record were very, VERY proud of the fidelity of these cannon shots, and the record came with the warning these shots could break poorly constructed loudspeakers), the phonograph needle had to swing so violently it would have crossed the normally-adjacent grooves, and so, at the appropriate moments in the recording, the spacing of the grooves abruptly becomes much, much wider than elsewhere on the disk, in order to allow for the physical motion required to reproduce this far louder sound. You can easily see the altered sections from several feet away, where the groove suddenly looks almost like the trace of an EKG. In that vein, w-a-y back in the early days of television, there was once a challenge demonstration featuring a man who was familiar with so many recordings of different musical compositions, he could correctly identify a piece of music just by looking at the groove pattern on the surface of a vinyl record, even with its label masked-over. He would have had no trouble whatsoever identifying The 1812.

  • @ViniOnTheRocks
    @ViniOnTheRocks6 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad you started with that sentence.

  • @nilswegner2881

    @nilswegner2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    Vinícius P. da Silva why, when the title is true?

  • @CockatooDude

    @CockatooDude

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Nils Pc Vids Just because vinyl is capable of sounding good doesn't mean it sounds the best out of all formats.

  • @nilswegner2881

    @nilswegner2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    CockatooDude no but definitely better than mp3 and other digital crap

  • @CockatooDude

    @CockatooDude

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Nils Pc Vids "Other digital crap" Like what exactly?

  • @dupisdisasterpiece1058

    @dupisdisasterpiece1058

    5 жыл бұрын

    DJ Slinus Certainly better than mp3 (Because mp3 is just lossy garbage) But certainly NOT flac or wav.

  • @raykent3211
    @raykent32116 жыл бұрын

    Techmoan has a video about a record that plays from the middle outwards. Ta for this, my friend had a horse racing multi-groove one.

  • @maker-matt

    @maker-matt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its Bolero - inside out and is still available. and there is a very good reason for it. not just a gimmick

  • @casey6556

    @casey6556

    3 жыл бұрын

    And now he’s done one on the horse racing one too!

  • @EnergyWell
    @EnergyWell3 жыл бұрын

    I love that when I start one of your videos, I am typically over confident about the subject matter, and then you completely upend my knowledge from the bottom up and I learn so much anew.

  • @zimbag
    @zimbag4 жыл бұрын

    Love the low key relaxed presentation, Thanks mate.

  • @Ultima2876
    @Ultima28764 жыл бұрын

    The way he throws around those records makes me die inside

  • @adamruth
    @adamruth2 жыл бұрын

    Mad magazine did this in the 70s. They included a flexible record as a tear out insert. It had multiple grooves, possibly more than two. As I recall it was only the ending that was different, so you wouldn’t know which groove you had right away. Basically, each groove had a different punchline.

  • @rohitchaoji
    @rohitchaoji2 жыл бұрын

    Never thought I'd see Steve Mould casually whip out EVOL. Great album. My favourite by them,

  • @rickybasilone8989
    @rickybasilone89896 жыл бұрын

    I love watching you discover and explore stuff, it's so inspiring

  • @alicyjinx8923
    @alicyjinx89236 жыл бұрын

    I'm someone who grew up listening to CDs and MP3s and I think Vinyl sounds really nice, and dropping the needle on the record and then watching the needle slowly make it's way to the center of the record is a very tactile and mesmorizing experience. I'm also endlessly fascinated by older technology and audio formats...that's why I have 3 different tape decks and an 8 track player XD

  • @electricpaisy6045

    @electricpaisy6045

    Жыл бұрын

    I also enjoy that but what is somewhere between sad and annoying to me is that since the rewive of vinyl people romanticised it so much, they will tell you it's better and they won't accept any scientific explanation why they are wrong with that. They even get angry about it sometimes.

  • @jamespyacek2691

    @jamespyacek2691

    Жыл бұрын

    Both of my cassette players are broken. But I have plans to fix them. Then I'll buy a turntable.

  • @ryanburr8419
    @ryanburr84192 жыл бұрын

    Those were some clever records, I especially loved that robot. I think what all the examples come down to is the experience of the medium being fun and unique. Not technically better (although vinyl sometimes suffers less from the loudness wars less making them better in one way) but a unique experience that many people appreciate.

  • @bpoldauf
    @bpoldauf6 жыл бұрын

    OH MY GOD, how can you handle your records this way, I was not able to finish the video seeing you touching the grooves and throwing the records on the floot, ABSOLUTELY BARBARIC

  • @GamerX-2000
    @GamerX-2000 Жыл бұрын

    I had a toy train when I was younger. It had a blue disk that was my first experience with learning how solid state storage works. The disk was also a gear(by that I mean it wasn’t really just a disk, but a gear), and when the train was turned on, the gear would spin. The gear had little bits that stuck out of it, like inverted grooves, that when the reached the part that was reading the information, it would play sound. I loved this toy and never disassembled it, so idk how it played sound, but it sounded like the parts sticking out were hitting pins that played music, like a music box. Because the inverted grooves were all the same length, it played different sounds based on where the grooves were, so the song was only as long as one rotation of the disk.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem6 жыл бұрын

    You say you love vinyl, but you're using a crosley turntable?

  • @nilswegner2881

    @nilswegner2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    CoolDudeClem yeah, this person does not have the right of talking about the war between analog and digital because of course his records will sound worse than CDs when played on one of these record grinding machines

  • @nickminadeo8386

    @nickminadeo8386

    5 жыл бұрын

    DJ Slinus why should it be a war? Why can't people enjoy both...analog and digital should be side by side, not competing. It's just a waste of time to compare, they're too different

  • @candykanefpv98

    @candykanefpv98

    5 жыл бұрын

    and grabbing the record by the grooves.

  • @nickminadeo8386

    @nickminadeo8386

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you want to get nit-picky, it's technically one groove...

  • @thugasaurusrex6004

    @thugasaurusrex6004

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nick Minadeo I love you lol

  • @GuyNamedSean
    @GuyNamedSean6 жыл бұрын

    It hurts me so much to see you casually tossing those records around and placing them on the floor. I was taught as a kid to be very meticulous about keeping vinyls clean.

  • @olik136

    @olik136

    6 жыл бұрын

    At the time vinyl was the goto medium most people didn't care as much as todays enthusiasts do- and yet most of todays records are from that time and work fine...

  • @AnimilesYT

    @AnimilesYT

    6 жыл бұрын

    They are probably cheap ones no one wants to have.

  • @schregen

    @schregen

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't believe you. Because records were never called vinyls until the hipsters came along a few years ago. Their name is records.

  • @spiritusinfinitus

    @spiritusinfinitus

    6 жыл бұрын

    I loved the fact that they were well used and filthy! Just to think of all the brittle "78" records we used to throw around like Frisbees as kids and "scratch" rapper style. Some may even have been priceless now for all I know. No idea what happened to any of them or what would've now been a vintage record player. You can't take any of this crap with you, so have fun with it and let it give you some good memories instead of it being overly precious. There's probably something similar in a museum somewhere for the people who care.

  • @douglas.turner

    @douglas.turner

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well, that record player isn't doing them any favours, either...

  • @andrewballard780
    @andrewballard7802 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for all your incredibly entertaining and informative videos. You are a legend, keep up the good work.

  • @jca111
    @jca1116 жыл бұрын

    Ohh man - I can deal with the Crosley but don't touch the record surface. Not to mention the tossing of the records onto the floor!

  • @wellivea1

    @wellivea1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zero Cool Why? I mean, if you *want* noisy records with audible damage, sure. You don't have to spend a ton of money or anything, just be careful when you're handling them and brush them off with a carbon fiber brush before each use. There's also replacing inner sleeves that use paper rather than plastic (or plastic lined paper). All of that would probably have a max one-time cost of $40 max (the sleeves coming in packs of 50 or more).

  • @wellivea1

    @wellivea1

    6 жыл бұрын

    They're not like CDs where you can scratch them up fairly bad and still get no reduction in audio quality (not that you should be scratching those either, though). You will get recurring clicks or pops where there is a scratch and a contant scratchy hiss where there is embedded dust, and with improper long-term storage you can get mold, etc that is very loud.

  • @timverma

    @timverma

    6 жыл бұрын

    because Steve clearly prefers to listen to his music on cd so he doesn't care about the audio quality at all, they are just there for memories. the quality isn't going to be so bad as to be completely ruined, so the few times a year he used them this way won't matter.

  • @wellivea1

    @wellivea1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Timothy Verma Well, if that's how he likes to use them, sure. But this is meant to be educational, he should have shown at least a little bit of care for them. Even when you're pretty careful you can drop a record and create a long gash like that. Putting one onto carpet which is riddled with small, tough fibers and stuffed with dust (vinyl attracts it's own worst enemy, dust, very well) just shows a complete lack of thought imo.

  • @dextertreehorn

    @dextertreehorn

    6 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Steve is more kind of "user of this robot toy" ....

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer6 жыл бұрын

    "The way I played with it was to try and figure out how it worked." YES! That is the story of my childhood. I even extended that tendency to my parents' possessions. When I was 10 I took my dad's tape recorder to pieces and reassembled it. Luckily, I got it right...

  • @SlavomirDanas
    @SlavomirDanas5 жыл бұрын

    Steve talks about playing music from a CD holding in hand an installation medium of Microsoft Windows...

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen2 жыл бұрын

    6:30 As there are two interleaved spirals, the easies way to swap to another spiral is to raise the arm using the lever, wait for half a turn and lower the arm. That should get you to the middle of another spiral if your lever doesn't move the player arm anywhere.

  • @perniciouspete4986

    @perniciouspete4986

    Жыл бұрын

    The anti-skating mechanism makes that difficult, though.

  • @xja85mac
    @xja85mac6 жыл бұрын

    I love your hand keeping on turning the record inside the logo. Good job!

  • @sapphireskies9129
    @sapphireskies91295 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else crying inside with how he is handling the records😫

  • @naibafabdulkobor4301

    @naibafabdulkobor4301

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Sapphire Skies - Not just inside, ask my neighbors ...

  • @kotofey_ivanovich

    @kotofey_ivanovich

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @DaveShevy
    @DaveShevy6 жыл бұрын

    I love this video so much! Wish I could like it twice:) Thank you as always!

  • @Badassvidsz

    @Badassvidsz

    4 жыл бұрын

    No problem just make more accounts ................lol :-)

  • @cathyerley3057
    @cathyerley30574 жыл бұрын

    Steve, you crack me up the faces you make sometimes, but I learn something new with each of your videos, like multi-groove records. (I too used to take my toys apart to see how they worked. Still do, in fact!)

  • @theguyinthefunnyhat
    @theguyinthefunnyhat4 жыл бұрын

    Some locking grooves/run-out grooves contain "noise" which, when recorded to a tape and put into some old computers, run programs. You could also include an SSTV signal into the run-out to have a slow scan image of the album cover, photo of the artist or anything really.

  • @novameowww

    @novameowww

    2 жыл бұрын

    Could you run Doom on a vinyl?

  • @dylantowers9367

    @dylantowers9367

    Жыл бұрын

    @@novameowww You can't actually run doom on a vinyl, as it isn't Turing Complete. You can store the executable binary on the vinyl though. It's not that different to storing binary data on an audio cassette, which is what the ZX Spectrum did.

  • @novameowww

    @novameowww

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dylantowers9367 I think that might've been what I meant but I honestly can't remember. Thanks though!

  • @thedoublek4816

    @thedoublek4816

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a video on KZread, where somebody managed to boot an old computer from a vinyl, forgot the title though.

  • @CalebMaclennan
    @CalebMaclennan6 жыл бұрын

    Trolling meter: off the charts, certified platinum.

  • @caiocc12
    @caiocc126 жыл бұрын

    The thing is that by restricting the usage of content so much by excessive copyright enforcement, less and less people get exposure to the content which will lead to less and less people consuming it, reducing profits.

  • @Metal_Tao

    @Metal_Tao

    6 жыл бұрын

    What?

  • @Milamberinx

    @Milamberinx

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think The Beatles are doing ok.

  • @Gabu_

    @Gabu_

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Milamberinx For how long? I don't know a single young person who listens to The Beatles.

  • @twobob

    @twobob

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Fester Blats "their" copyright nonsense. Pretty sure it has zero to do with "them"

  • @Sammie_Sorrelly

    @Sammie_Sorrelly

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's complicated. In isolation, exposure is a good thing, of course - but since the piracy boom in the 90s and the streaming services which provide a legal alternative but still pay musicians basically nothing, the general perception is that music is something that's inherently free, which makes it hard to make any money as a musician because people only *buy* music as an additional extravagance. As a musician, I'm quite happy with the idea of my music being freely available to anyone who might want to hear it, but I also want to make enough money from it that I can afford to dedicate a significant amount of my time to it, hone my craft and make the best music I can. So... as things are now it's not an easy problem to solve.

  • @tomharner83
    @tomharner832 жыл бұрын

    I don't know what I expected when I clicked on this video.... But this was awesome! My family started getting into record again... We'll be in the look out for these weird records now.

  • @jacobduncan87
    @jacobduncan876 жыл бұрын

    Very cool I collect vinyls and never knew about the multiple tracks I'll have to keep an eye out for those. I learned something new today.

  • @thepianoaddict
    @thepianoaddict6 жыл бұрын

    A record does have multiple grooves. One on each side.

  • @bdf2718

    @bdf2718

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Zero Cool Did you read the "one on each side bit"? Read it again if you're unsure.

  • @David-ne2wx

    @David-ne2wx

    6 жыл бұрын

    bdf2718 Funny guy

  • @munjee2

    @munjee2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not if its single sided like many often are

  • @baranoid

    @baranoid

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Error 909 Not Found it's like a don't repeat rather than don't repeat list. neat.

  • @johnb6723

    @johnb6723

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @LaGuerre19
    @LaGuerre195 жыл бұрын

    "Daddy? *_ERRRGGH_* Followed by the sound of gunfire." lmao

  • @deathsheir2035

    @deathsheir2035

    5 жыл бұрын

    He said "medic"

  • @styleplague
    @styleplague4 жыл бұрын

    Very happy to find your channel!

  • @zanryll
    @zanryll6 жыл бұрын

    On alt J's album this is all yours there is a lock groove before the final track. This way you have to manually move the needle past the groove to listen to the "hidden" track

  • @shreyanshdarshan3199
    @shreyanshdarshan31996 жыл бұрын

    Minutephysics, kurzgesagt, and now you! Today is a good day 😂

  • @jesselanting3931

    @jesselanting3931

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shreyansh Darshan now we just need a cpcgrey vid and it will be complete

  • @shreyanshdarshan3199

    @shreyanshdarshan3199

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or a 3blue1brown vid 😊 Edit: Smarter Every Day just uploaded 😮😮

  • @PratikPatel

    @PratikPatel

    6 жыл бұрын

    So did physicsgirl

  • @Henrix1998

    @Henrix1998

    6 жыл бұрын

    jesse lanting And Vsauce

  • @notmyname5449

    @notmyname5449

    6 жыл бұрын

    Almost the same comment was on SmarterEveryDay's video today ;)

  • @ToMeK3001pro
    @ToMeK3001pro3 жыл бұрын

    "it's too precious" *plays the vinyl backwards few moments later*

  • @kindlin

    @kindlin

    2 жыл бұрын

    It sounded like it was dying. And it definitely wasn't designed for that.

  • @Warhawk76
    @Warhawk76 Жыл бұрын

    I love the anecdotes about the toy and your childhood. You are I seem to be close in age, and I was always taking stuff apart as a kid too, so good times hearing about that

  • @Nil_Echo
    @Nil_Echo6 жыл бұрын

    Godspeed You! Black Emperor has a locked groove for the F#A#(infinity) album making a really cool ambient riff, and Tool's Opiate has a secret track where the groove splits and half the time you play it, the needle goes into a different groove.

  • @Ricocossa1
    @Ricocossa14 жыл бұрын

    I agree the lock groove on sgt peppers is creepy as hell. I remember when I first listened to it. My record player just stops when it hits the end, so the sound would get lower and lower in pitch until it stopped. When you don't expect it it's quite creepy.

  • @Beateau
    @Beateau3 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite lock-grooves is on a Mars Volta vinyl that sounds just like a dripping faucet.

  • @burkeysvids
    @burkeysvids5 жыл бұрын

    My dad had that horse racing record - it blew my mind as a kid! I always thought it was a skip that cause the randomness, I never knew it was 8 seperate tracks. It's really kind of cool to have discovered an answer to that question of how that works - 30 years after I had that question!

  • @jawa7609
    @jawa7609 Жыл бұрын

    Just here to keep the chat and video alive! Thanks Steve, I actually lol'd!

  • @jahrenskiashkevron1499
    @jahrenskiashkevron14996 жыл бұрын

    10:24 This is Steve as you should know him.

  • @Mikeztarp
    @Mikeztarp4 жыл бұрын

    "Where have I hidden your keys?" So as a kid, you were like the Riddler? xD

  • @janemorrow6672

    @janemorrow6672

    3 жыл бұрын

    In a pigsty or on a spaceship?

  • @JimmyLundberg
    @JimmyLundberg6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the brilliant video. Really interesting! Cheers

  • @PiotrBarcz
    @PiotrBarcz7 ай бұрын

    The lock groove is: 1. Yeah, meant to keep the needle from skidding off onto the label, deafening everyone in the room with the scratching and to keep the needle from wearing down really quick 2. The biggest reason, I think, on 33 rpm records and other more modern records is to give the machine's auto-stop mechanism time to actually lift the needle and return it to it's cradle

  • @DavidGreen_au
    @DavidGreen_au6 жыл бұрын

    Wow. That was a blast from the past. I had the Monty Python record and the Horse racing game (back in the days of antiquity). Transferring Side 2 of Python to a cassette tape (as none of ever did back then :) ) was a problematic, involving several restarts to get it right.

  • @joystickmusic
    @joystickmusic5 жыл бұрын

    oh man the dust and fingerprints on your records! O_O

  • @thepatchinatior
    @thepatchinatior2 жыл бұрын

    loving this window into your childhood here, steve

  • @jedgrahek1426
    @jedgrahek14262 жыл бұрын

    I love the pretty pink Siamese Dream vinyl, and the see-though green of Pisces Iscariot. And I've listened to the copies of the White Album and Abbey Road on vinyl that I got from my dad at least as many times as listening to them digitally. Playing the White Album loud on a good system, knowing everyone in the building is hearing Back in the USSR.... feels great.

  • @mchevre
    @mchevre6 жыл бұрын

    Hey! I have Evol on vinyl too. I'll have to check that out, never noticed it.

  • @jopmens6960
    @jopmens69605 жыл бұрын

    Vinyl = music + random ASMR

  • @reiniervanzwieten7092

    @reiniervanzwieten7092

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you have a clean vinyl and good gear there are no crackles

  • @Callie_Cosmo

    @Callie_Cosmo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reinier van zwieten well then you would loose the best part of listening to vinyl :/

  • @off_Planet

    @off_Planet

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@reiniervanzwieten7092 That is, in fact, a lie. A vinyl record will always have a poor noise performance when compared to digital audio. It's funny how Vinyl Stans are pretty much all physics deniers.

  • @reiniervanzwieten7092

    @reiniervanzwieten7092

    4 жыл бұрын

    i didn't say anything about noise. I was talking about crackles. I am not stupid i know about audio :P. It's just stupid how some people think that vinyl always has crackles while that's not the case. And when i point it out they think i'm saying vinyl is superior(which i am not saying is the case)

  • @Antilevitation
    @Antilevitation5 жыл бұрын

    that openingstatement, i love you

  • @guilhermeaandrade
    @guilhermeaandrade5 жыл бұрын

    This was really cool. I though I was going to hate this video but I ended up loving it. Congratulations.

  • @davidvirgilio4166
    @davidvirgilio41666 жыл бұрын

    I think it would be interesting to record a known sample of white noise onto a high quality vinyl record, play it back on a high quality player, digitize it with a good ADC, then correlate that with the original white noise. It would interesting to observe the noise which is introduced because of the vinyl. Perhaps even doing the playback at different speeds to measure how the dynamics of the needle movement affect the system.

  • @volbla

    @volbla

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it be only harder and more ambiguous to try and distinguish noise from noise? Why not just do it with a plain sine wave and compare that.

  • @W4LL37SK83R

    @W4LL37SK83R

    6 жыл бұрын

    Because noise has many frequencies but a plain sine wave just has one. Also I assume the idea was to analyze the difference using a computer or something like that, not just listening with your ears.

  • @davidvirgilio4166

    @davidvirgilio4166

    6 жыл бұрын

    Volbla - Good question. A key word I used is *known* white noise. So I can compare the output of the system to the known signal. There are ways of doing that computationally on a computer. The advantage of doing it this way is that the response of a linear system can be determined with a very short sample. A disadvantage would be it's harder to detect nonlinear behavior such as harmonic excitations at a given frequency. So yeah putting other signals in there such as a sine wave which rises in pitch and sweeps out the entire spectrum would be a good idea. Thanks!

  • @volbla

    @volbla

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think i understand _slightly_ better. I'm glad if i was any sort of help :3

  • @MarkTillotson

    @MarkTillotson

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just play a popadum, that's close enough.

  • @55Ramius
    @55Ramius6 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I remember playing around with those rotary string pulled sound toy. Pull string after positioned dial to hear a cow or something. If you give the string a small tug at the right time you can get it to say- This is what a cow sounds like - then tug and it would be a chicken sound or something. I used to confuse my little niece with it. lol

  • @ChertineP

    @ChertineP

    6 жыл бұрын

    55Ramius yes! The See N Say, right?

  • @55Ramius

    @55Ramius

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes ! That was the name. I could not for the life of me remember what it was. : ) My niece is grown and has her own business now. Also she does not confuse cows with chickens anymore, after therapy .... lol

  • @bobbart4198
    @bobbart41983 жыл бұрын

    ... ' Matching Tie and Handkerchief ' in the original vinyl is AMAZING ... I bought this thing when it first came out in '75 (the US release of the 1973 album) and played it for an hour before I got the odd track to work. Still got it, still use it ...

  • @bizarrefruit
    @bizarrefruit2 жыл бұрын

    Really cool video, I also love bone records from countries where rock music was censored; using X-ray vinyl to print music on was such a clever idea.

  • @deepblue8143
    @deepblue81435 жыл бұрын

    Ah Crosley, the number one when it comes to audio Fidelity and quality.

  • @hajoact

    @hajoact

    2 жыл бұрын

    The shittest quality I've ever heard/seen.

  • @hsavietto
    @hsavietto6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not really a fan of vinyl recods, but touching their surface with your fingers makes you look like a savage.

  • @AndrewKay

    @AndrewKay

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or like a DJ.

  • @hsavietto

    @hsavietto

    6 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Kay thanks for reinforcing my point!

  • @SocietateaAscendenta

    @SocietateaAscendenta

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shhhh...........

  • @pow9606

    @pow9606

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey you lay off my fingers OK

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer6 жыл бұрын

    I have Matching Tie and Handkerchief, but it was on cassette, and I had no idea about the double groove thing. Now I need to go and check whether I have all the tracks that were on the vinyl version!

  • @urchy54
    @urchy543 жыл бұрын

    I remember buying the Matching Tie when I was young. I was home alone listening to it for the first time; and enjoying it. The phone rang (it was a wrong number), so I cued the tone arm to answer the call. Imagine my surprise when I returned shortly thereafter and let the tone arm back down again to find and entirely new skit being played. I roamed the house looking for the person who had broken in and changed the track. So yes, my first experience with concentric spirals was confusing!

  • @samoopsd
    @samoopsd2 жыл бұрын

    10:58 wow, TF2 was confirmed years ago in a toy with subliminal messages, valve really out did themselves!

  • @luka9843
    @luka98436 жыл бұрын

    1:20 you can see the record getting scratched and vinyl shavinga coming up.

  • @nrgzrbunny7775

    @nrgzrbunny7775

    6 жыл бұрын

    Luka Agulashvili I think it's just dust already on the record

  • @kamoroso94
    @kamoroso946 жыл бұрын

    That's really groovy, Steve.

  • @edperry4235
    @edperry42356 жыл бұрын

    Seeing your robot reminded me of talking Action Man I had a as a kid. I took it apart and he had a very similar speaker cone/multi groove record in his chest. You pulled the string on his back and he had about eight phrases, which played at random but with practice you could pull just enough string out to get the phrase you wanted...

  • @jeremystanger1711
    @jeremystanger17116 жыл бұрын

    "That's not controversial"

  • @CockatooDude

    @CockatooDude

    6 жыл бұрын

    In fairness it shouldn't be. You can make digital audio sound however you want. The same cannot be said for records.

  • @deadeyeduncan5022

    @deadeyeduncan5022

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CockatooDude Yep, you can make them sound however you want. And that's why nothing sounds like it should sound.

  • @gavinjenkins899

    @gavinjenkins899

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sure some silly people believe anything you can say. I think he just meant to say something more like "objectively true"

  • @reiniervanzwieten7092

    @reiniervanzwieten7092

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like modern vinyl is mostly stuff recorded digitally and then ported to vinyl so same quality as the digital stuff. But because of the nature of digital audio if audio hasn't been digitised it is better.

  • @threepe0

    @threepe0

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@deadeyeduncan5022 absolute nonsense.

  • @tobyjackson6514
    @tobyjackson65146 жыл бұрын

    No wonder vinyl sounds worse, when its played on a crosley.

  • @Knaeckebrotsaege

    @Knaeckebrotsaege

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah the intro and that crosley on the floor made me stop watching pretty much instantly

  • @djb903
    @djb9034 жыл бұрын

    Never knew about the multiple groove records, very interesting... Especially the horse race one!

  • @lewismassie
    @lewismassie6 жыл бұрын

    A small Steve disassembling his toys to mess with people is an amazing image

  • @kirillfedtsov
    @kirillfedtsov6 жыл бұрын

    Sonic Youth!

  • @TmoVie93
    @TmoVie936 жыл бұрын

    I can't be the only one thinking at 8:32 : "Piiigs in Spaaaaaaaace!"

  • @Wolfdings
    @Wolfdings4 жыл бұрын

    The fact I love most about vinyl - especially when it comes to traditional recording methods is: A physical, mechanical wave (instrument or voice) turns into a physical sonic wave, turns into a physical mechanical wave (microphone membrane), turns into a physical electrical wave to a physical magnetic storage (tape) is being turned into mechanical movement engraving a master, and being pressed onto a vinyl - then vice versa the mechanical movement of a stylus is being turned into physical electrical waves, amplified and turned into physical mechanical movement of a loudspeaker membrane and finally turned into a physical sonic wave, reaching the listeners ears. So in basic you have a non digitally processed wave that was originally played by the artist you're listening to. Like a carbon copy. This is the original tone conserved and replayed. A CD or mp3 is just a photocopy of the original handwriting.

  • @mkpleco

    @mkpleco

    2 жыл бұрын

    A wav file format is a raw sound recoding that is digitally stored. An mp3 is a compression scheme for that wav sound file to make it smaller and sound good. you can compare your own sound file recorded on your computer in both formats to see and hear the difference. I to prefer live sounds over recordings. However, I do treasure the recordings of my kids when they were young, as files on my computer.

  • @uzefulvideos3440

    @uzefulvideos3440

    2 жыл бұрын

    In every of those steps you have loss, digital audio can preserve the original source better, more precise, a CD can easily sound indistinguishable to the analog master tape while that's hard to achieve with Vinyl

  • @gbennett58

    @gbennett58

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm 70 now. As a child I remember my parents playing 78rpm records. They were in mono, not stereo, and very noisy. Stereo came soon after, still on 78rpms, with the same noisy playback. Then came the 33rpm lp records, which were a big improvement but still plagued with pops and clicks, and sometimes a track would become damaged and endlessly repeat itself. Even music played from lp records on the radio had pops and clicks. Also, the more the record was played, the more noisy they were, the quality degraded with the number of plays. When the CD came out in the early 80s I was so very happy. The quality was excellent, no more pops and clicks and best of all, no degradation of sound with the number of playbacks. I still have the CDs I bought back then and they are still as good as new. I can't really understand the recent interest in vinyl records, but to each his own.

  • @jeanpauls123
    @jeanpauls1233 жыл бұрын

    You could have included Eyes of the Heart a 3 side jazz album by American pianist Keith Jarrett, the fourth side is a continuous silent Groove very good for testing "rumble and hum" ( unwanted noise from the motor and magnetic interference feeding back into the pick-up cartridge) On a good quality Hi-fi record deck.

  • @BensWorkshop
    @BensWorkshop6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not surprised your vinyl sounds worse than your CDs. If you handled my records like that or got them anywhere near that turntable I wouldn't let you in my house ever again.

  • @nilswegner2881

    @nilswegner2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    Benedict White I wouldn't either. And please, please throw that Crosley out and grab some vintage equipment

  • @nathanielscreativecollecti6392

    @nathanielscreativecollecti6392

    6 жыл бұрын

    Or a U-TURN orbit

  • @nilswegner2881

    @nilswegner2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nathaniel Neubert yeah or if you really want something not expensive but new get an atlp120

  • @halo3odst

    @halo3odst

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or i could just be that vinyl doesnt sound as good as CDs.

  • @halo3odst

    @halo3odst

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alright, allow me to put the debate in the ground where it belongs *10" open reel deck at 15 IPS.*

  • @PierreThierryKPH
    @PierreThierryKPH6 жыл бұрын

    Monty Python, amazing yet again!

  • @trey1531
    @trey15312 жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered what the end of A Day in the Life was! Amazing!

  • @AkashJainAkashJain
    @AkashJainAkashJain6 жыл бұрын

    amazing one yaar ... haven't observed such thing ... great stuff

  • @Redspl
    @Redspl6 жыл бұрын

    christ allmighty, why is your record so dirty

  • @deadeyeduncan5022

    @deadeyeduncan5022

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just look at how he's handling them, shouldn't have to ask.

  • @eanerickson1968

    @eanerickson1968

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reds it’s so filthy

  • @DIO-nm2ut
    @DIO-nm2ut3 жыл бұрын

    2:10 he said funny guys

  • @oddjobbob8742
    @oddjobbob87422 жыл бұрын

    I like all your KZreads (even, and maybe especially the ones I can’t hardly understand) and I especially enjoy the discussion you snd ElectroBoom have been having about chain falling from a cup. “The Mould Effect,” you should be absolutely proud. Your kids should be enormously proud. But, the only people who can see any superiority, in any level, of vinyl records over even the worst MP3 did not grow up when Vinyl was the only option. The deficits you describe in CDs and MP3 players is not a deficit of the technologies, it is the fault of the recorders. The people who are producing the CDs, etc.

  • @mrsuperguy2073
    @mrsuperguy20733 жыл бұрын

    "it was hard questions like where have i hidden your keys" - fucken killed me

  • @cerebralaudio5587
    @cerebralaudio55876 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you were trolling with the title of this video, and admitted it up front... I was ready to watch this video and write a comment about the inaccurate nature of it... Fortunately there is only two things to "complain" about: you are totally handling those records incorrectly. And, please, get a better turntable than a Crosley...they are absolute garbage. As for the other content: yeah, I knew about the lock groove and multiple grooves things... But there are things that you can't do with a record that you can with a CD, such as hidden tracks... I've had at least one CD where you won't find a track until you go back past the first track... I've also had CD's that you didn't find all the tracks unless you were willing to skip out to track 60 or 80, when the last listed track was actually 10 or 12... How is that possible? It has to do with the ways CD's are encoded... They contain a "header" that is kind of like a table to contents to the CD. The specs for the header allow for some interesting and unusual track arrangements... So, either way there were creative things you could do with both CD and records...kind of makes them equal in my book...

  • @nilswegner2881

    @nilswegner2881

    6 жыл бұрын

    CerebralAudio it is a shame, that he was Trolling with the title, because it is just true what the title says

  • @cerebralaudio5587

    @cerebralaudio5587

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha - nice attempt at a reverse-troll... I'll play along. ;) The simple fact is: it is objectively provable via scientific measurement that digital reproduction is more accurate (aka better) than analog reproduction. (I'm not talking about crappy low quality lossy encoding formats, but correctly created, non-lossy CD's, FLAC encodings, etc.) On the subjective side: your ears may *prefer* the sound of analog reproduction from vinyl, tapes, etc. But that does not make it better (in the objective, scientific sense) than digital reproduction.

  • @TheGreenDoggoOfWisdom

    @TheGreenDoggoOfWisdom

    3 жыл бұрын

    My Green Day record has a hidden track. Vinyl can have hidden tracks.

  • @ophello
    @ophello4 жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute. Does every question start with “where do they live”? How does that tiny vinyl have all the questions?

  • @trollenz

    @trollenz

    4 жыл бұрын

    "what pictures to together ?", "where do they live ?", "match the beginning sound ?" and "how many are there ?" are the 4 different questions, remaining 2 tracks are for right or wrong answer.

  • @wesleycassford

    @wesleycassford

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you for this I was losing my mind trying to figure it out

  • @kelpengineer5303
    @kelpengineer53035 жыл бұрын

    Your talking toy reminds me of one of my favourite toy. It was an eight track tape player disguised as a robot called 2XL.

  • @MacMcCardle
    @MacMcCardle6 жыл бұрын

    Regarding interwoven tracks - I have a record called the racing game where you're supposed to bet on horses. I believe there are some 13 tracks for each race with 5 races per side. A very cool use of this idea!

  • @kakurerud7516
    @kakurerud75166 жыл бұрын

    if you directly capture a vinyl record to a cd (or equivalent quality format NOT applying frequency 'loudness' compression) and do a blind test, you can not tell the difference without guessing. I use to do this test on all sorts of snooty "audiophiles." It was fun times. They can also not tell if both sources are vinyl or digital. (also I found out the low limit for stereo sampling rate is around 33khz before they notice something's up) and yes it is true the older the subjects were the less highs they are able to notice.

  • @kakurerud7516

    @kakurerud7516

    6 жыл бұрын

    I use to do evil stuff like record the raw output from a cartridge (dont matter what kind) and then apply the equalization to the wav file's output during playback.

  • @robertromero8692

    @robertromero8692

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kakureru D I love what you did. It really does expose the whole "vinyl is better" nonsense. There have been other such tests exposing similar nonsense involving amplifiers, speaker wire, etc.

  • @georgekolbaia4246

    @georgekolbaia4246

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kakureru D Michael Fremer can tell a difference :) (I am at Analog Side)

  • @unoriginalusernameno999
    @unoriginalusernameno9996 жыл бұрын

    OUTRO MUSIC please!

  • @L4wr3nc3810
    @L4wr3nc38106 жыл бұрын

    had lovely time watching this. you are the john foreman of physics videos

  • @profdrdrnoname4360
    @profdrdrnoname43605 жыл бұрын

    I loved this video a lot. Thanks!

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