Very impressive! A good indication on how difficult a lock is to pick is when one of the best pickers out there does not comment on the picking process.

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I certainly did find it difficult and full concentration was needed

Wow, Great job, that was really impressive.

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Loving your work too

Awesome picking, pick and padlock! Thanks for sharing and enjoy the rest of your week.

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks Gazz, you too

Well done, fantastic work!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Very pleased

Excellent work, and very nice tooling. Congratulations on this great achievement!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Now I should get back on my _really_ hard projects...

You're killing it! Hats down! Cheers 🍻

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! You were right though, I should have done this sooner

Awesome picking!!! Incredibly difficult lock. Thanks for sharing this!! 👍👏🐈‍⬛🐾🍻👏

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks Chris! Was indeed very hard, but maybe not quite as bad as I thought it might be

Incredible picking. Well done.👍

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I was very happy to get this open

Nice work!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! And congratulations on well deserved BB

Well done! Been looking forward to this for a bit. Cheers ☕

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Felt awesome.

Heeeeeeeell yeaaaa mate! Well done!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! And thank you for your help along the way

Bravo 👏 😀 💜

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks Dave!

Very good

@crispix

17 күн бұрын

Thanks! I was very pleased to get this

Nice one Chris.

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks Jon! Looking forward to watching you pick one soon

Awesome work bud👌🏻 I was holding my breath fir most of the picking 😬😆

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I was too, concentrating very hard. I'd already had a few tries that didn't work as well, was starting to think I'd lucked out getting it open once before. Was tense for sure!

Incredible skill Cris 😎😎

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks Andy! It felt hard for sure, even after practice that took I think five goes to film

@andy123law

Ай бұрын

@@crispix there aren't many people who can pick these with a 2in1 that's for sure mate. Well done 👍

Omg what sorcery you had to do to make that tip? Just awesome ❤ congrats man!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Lots of patience. And a Dremel mostly. The bit that drives the discs had to be very precise, that was hand filed

@DPLocksport

Ай бұрын

@crispix did you use ejector pin for this or standard tip?

@crispix

22 күн бұрын

​@@DPLocksportyes, ejector pin

I still struggle with DD locks. One day ....😊. Nice picking mate 👍

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! This is definitely one to save until quite a few DDs picked

@Nicks-Picks

Ай бұрын

@@crispix indeed, if there's one thing I know it's to leave that one alone for a while 😂👍

Pro tip: if you change the timestamps in the video description to use colon (:) instead of full stop (.) then KZread will automatically create chapter marks for your video. The supported syntax is 12:34.

@crispix

22 күн бұрын

Thanks Mikko - have changed it

Great work! This must have been the clearest Protec2 picking I've seen.Could you explain a bit more how did you tension the lock? Are you using the bearing ball on the front to jam the carrier to your tensioner with a ramp?

@crispix

22 күн бұрын

Thanks! I just tensioned in a regular way, but kept counter rotating the tension to pop out the sidebar and disengage the DC. The DC only seems partially effective, I got good feedback on many of the discs like this. However there were some in the middle of the lock where I was using knowledge of the key, which is why I say I am not completely happy. For me it's not a fully legitimate pick if it couldn't be applied blind. I am working on a tensioner which works exactly as you describe, will do a follow up as and when I get it to work

@MikkoRantalainen

22 күн бұрын

@@crispix When you counter rotate the tension to release the DBS bars, do you lose all feedback until you re-tension the lock? Or did you actually mean disc controller with "DC" which I think refers to the part that turns the disks to zero position before key is removed and guides the key during key insertion and removal.

@crispix

20 күн бұрын

​@@MikkoRantalainenbasically I'm lightly loading the disc and counter rotate the tension till it moves as I would picking clockwise with many locks. Then reapply light tension to check disc state, repeat. In many cases the feedback is still there, but in some instances the DBS is effective and the feedback is just feeling the return bar on the disc

@MikkoRantalainen

20 күн бұрын

@@crispix Interesting. Your technique sounds somewhat similar how deeply cut spool pin in pin tumbler locks are handled. Do you think there's binding order for the disks when it comes to DBS? (Similar to how spool pins may sometimes bind in different order than the actual picking oder.)

wtf man, unbelievable!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

He he, I could barely believe it either when I realised I could do it

Nice one m8 ❤

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Very pleased to get this open

@Johnjgjohn-fy7gr

Ай бұрын

@@crispix tried a few times ive made a replica of your pick head and it works to move the disks and go between but actually picking the lock is another level 😃

Ive been looking at tool design for the protec2. How did you avoid activating the DBS with a standard tensioner like this? Not doubting your skill, just trying to figure out how to do it myself!

@crispix

Ай бұрын

Excellent question! Short answer is I didn't, which is why I say I'm not totally happy with the tensioner or picking method. Long answer: I've been working on this for a while and developed a solution I think will work. I can't really make the tensioner though, will need some help from someone with a workshop. But I could make the tip, so I made one to test, and just matched it up with the basic tensioner to see if I could get the range of motion I wanted. And, not only could I get the range of motion, but I also got some usable feedback - easy to differentiate narrow/wide gates, and in some instances I could feel binding. However, on this particular lock discs 3, 5 and 6 I could not get enough feedback to differentiate a wide false gate from true, so I used knowledge of the key to position these. Not really what I want, I don't consider it a completely valid approach unless it can be executed blind. But overall the DBS is not as effective as it could be - constantly juggling tension seems to offload it without completely killing the feedback. Until I get a better tensioner though, it is effective enough to make a "proper" pick impractical.

@paradox_guardian

Ай бұрын

@@crispix hmm I understand. Thanks for the response :)

@MikkoRantalainen

22 күн бұрын

@@crispix You could always push a piece of wire between the DBS bars through the gap between spacer and a disk. I think a single thin metal wire near the middle of the stack should keep the bars separated at all times. I think that finding a tensioning method that doesn't depend on the front bearing ball on Protec2 nor inserting anything between spacers and disks would be the ultimate goal. Original Protec (non-2 variant) didn't have the bearing ball so it cannot be used to apply tenstion to disk carrier but it had a construction which made it easier to get a piece of metal wire between the DBS bars from the keyhole. Even with fully working DBS system you could still always detect the most binding disk and decode the lock that way (basically keep track of known gates in all the disks and when you see that e.g. disk 6 is binding on gate 3, you cross that off as a valid code and continue another gate position next time, fully reset the lock before applying tension again if needed to test next gate). Decoding a fully mechanical lock is always possible no matter the lock design. Once you know all the incorrect gate position, opening the lock would simply require dialing the correct code and turning the lock open.

@crispix

20 күн бұрын

​@@MikkoRantalainengetting wire in there really hard. I tried to get a shim in the front between the rotation stop on the DC and the housing which would also be effective. But the space is so limited I couldn't manage