I see the wind is still working

@danburnes722

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same... lots of wind not being used!

@bestamerica

3 жыл бұрын

hi D G... ' natural wind is a wonderful clean the air

@azmike3572

3 жыл бұрын

Also, that noise you hear is the wind. "And the wind cries..." (Hendrix, 1967)

@bestamerica

3 жыл бұрын

@@danburnes722 hi D B... ' keep up windy anyday anytime anywhere

@bestamerica

3 жыл бұрын

@@azmike3572 hi A... ' natural air wind is a not cryying

"The bitterness of low quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten." - Benjamin Franklin

@ThistleKing

3 жыл бұрын

Very true

@davidmcminn3953

3 жыл бұрын

You know it's all comes down to stupid people that are in the government this all took place during Obama's administration that is carried on to Biden Administration they think all the people are going to be putting solar panels together and putting up them electric windmills the government paid for this and they're going to have to pay to dis Assemble these decaying windmills and the stupid Democrats things that everyone can start making solar panels the Democrats must be aligned with the Three Stooges

@StaleMedia

3 жыл бұрын

@schuju mike yea totally

@t.r.campbell6585

3 жыл бұрын

There is no low price. Remember what Warren Buffett said about wind energy, it does not make sense without government subsidies.

@wadestanton

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidmcminn3953 I myself saw windmill generators laying in the tall weeds, eastern montana, long before obama was even a senator. Maybe you weren't around in the 80's when the USA was going to be energy independent and conserve

The company “DeWind” no longer is around. These were abandoned because there isn’t any parts for them other than robbing from one and so on. “2015 in liquidation and was deleted in the German Trade Register in December 2017” Daewoo owns the trademark now but uses it for marine vessels. The maintenance problem is the blades. They have a inland life of 6 to 8 years. Once they are past that it is a matter of time before the fiberglass blade delaminates and causes a wobble that often ends in a catastrophic failure. If you want to go down a fun but pointless rabbit hole look up wind turbine blades and landfills. Most will not accept them anymore because of how many are filling the landfills. Moral of the story.. turbines are not a good source of reliable power. We only have one green energy and it isn’t solar,wind,dam based.

This would be the perfect scenery for some future dystopian movie.

@fraxonthefurry21

3 жыл бұрын

That's what we are already in now.

@stacylockhart9684

3 жыл бұрын

Demotards trying to bring a real one.

@MrMechen

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao people who watch said movie would think this was CG

@shoti66

3 жыл бұрын

There was something similar to this in the game Horizon Zero Dawn.

@Martian74

3 жыл бұрын

"The Inconvenient Truth 2.0".

GREEN DEATH OF AMERICA

The close up of the fallen turbine that shows the foundation... If that one picture doesn't perfectly show corruption I don't know what would. I've worked on turbines in Lawton, Oklahoma and this makes me shiver. There are principles of construction that weren't observed as well as the integrity of the commissioning team that are, in my opinion, criminal in their profound negligence.

@jimeagle33

3 жыл бұрын

Money, money, money. Our's.

@lawrence18uk

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah - but... most of the other towers are still standing, and their blades failed. Is that poor maintenance?

@legros731

3 жыл бұрын

@@lawrence18ukmaybe just not worth it to repair them a suppose Anyway look how much pollution these blade make unreal kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4h5yNJ-ldngh6Q.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZtmqpmTqM7PfaQ.html

@bycracky22

3 жыл бұрын

The whole of the wind industry ate outlaw

@tippyc2

3 жыл бұрын

@@legros731 Most renewables share similar problems, but nobody really talks about it. Sure, a solar panel is perfectly clean during its lifetime, but manufacturing it creates a crazy amount of pollution. Mining and refining the materials almost takes as much energy as the panel can produce over it's lifetime. And that assumes you're running the panels at optimum conditions, which isn't the case in most situations.

It really enhances the landscape too....

@justsomeguy934

3 жыл бұрын

So does the Exxon Valdeez oil spill, it contaminated thousands of miles of coastline, killed all sorts of wildlife but hey, it's what we're used to, right?

@jsm530

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguy934 oil spills are glorious lol

@jsm530

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguy934 go back to your dead end gamestop job hipster degenerate

@justsomeguy934

3 жыл бұрын

@@jsm530 I'm conservative politically, retired young, have two college degrees thank you very much.

@GregHighPressure

3 жыл бұрын

have you seen a coal mine or an oil field before?

The Don Quixote de la Mancha was around and he did that. Finally he did it. 👏.

@mazimadu

3 жыл бұрын

I saw the man from Mancha movie. It was epic

The only thing green here is the subsidies collected to put these up, and the eventual subsidies to dismantle and clean up.

@bobjohnson7699

3 жыл бұрын

At least when they break down, they stop killing birds.

@michaelsnelling3338

3 жыл бұрын

That's right., and just who gets the subsidies? Mmmm the multi millionaires, the rentier class. Who pays? The mugs called tax payers!. To top it all we then pay more for the power that has been created.

@bbob288

3 жыл бұрын

Amen brother.

@davidjones-vx9ju

3 жыл бұрын

we have to try these ideas ,if they don't work ,well at least you know that much

@bbob288

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidjones-vx9ju Nature works fine. All else is... well weve seen what it is haven't we.

Follow the money! Politicians are at the end, guaranteed.

@bbob288

3 жыл бұрын

Big oil is at the end actually, they funded it all... watch the planet of the humans documentary, it's all in there bro 🙏

@spyeatte

3 жыл бұрын

Like all large, complex things, they require constant upkeep and maintenance, else they self-destruct.

@chrissmith7669

3 жыл бұрын

Abandoned because the fossil fuel people convinced people in Texas that cheap natural gas would make wind farms to expensive. How’s that working out Texas?

@johnbeckman8916

3 жыл бұрын

@@bbob288 _ You can bet the farm that Politicians in Obama's circle required the oil companies to divert a percentage of revenue to "Green Projects". His "Stimulus Package" was PORK, PORK and more PORK that did more harm than good. 😎

@crabbinmoose8583

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Smith, the title of the video literally says Oklahoma, not Texas! Texas had their own blight producing wind farms freezing up this winter, but had no problem with natural gas or coal for that matter. For the love of all fertile soil, please stop spreading disinformation and disintelligence. The really stupid part about these non-winterized windfarms that all the greenies do not understand is the pollution caused by the chemical the power company must spray on the aerofoils in order to de-ice them and get the turbines back turning again. I'll give you a hint. The stuff ain't exactly good for the soil underneath the platform and is a known carcinogen. Although it may not matter as much in a deserted area where nothing grows.....it should definitely not be sprayed on areas with farmland around the platforms! Besides, the precious helicopters used to de-ice them hover around each unit for hours, burning an endless supply of aviation grade fossil fuel. LOL. The more idiots know about saving the planet, the more pollution we seem to get.....Germany must be extremely proud of such insight and foresight from your severely limited POV.

The owners of these wind farms should be required to decommission and remove them if they cease operations. The taxpayers shouldn’t be on the hook for them!😡

@leomarin2205

3 жыл бұрын

if they are old they had to be modernized. but we probably needed investments, that's how we burn oil. we make a big deal at the Saudis and other gangs, politicians should be crucified on them

@petervast8527

3 жыл бұрын

Get used to the green deal... We all will pay for this magnificent landscape

@JoneKone

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody owns them. a Bank or something. 1 of them had burned.

@anupew3276

3 жыл бұрын

@Jim Hibbits sure, put iron gate, maybe few tons of rocks to fill entrance so nobody can trespass into the mined area and you are good to go. Waste material can be changed to a really nice landscape in just a few years with minimum effort/investment. Above ground buildings as well as mining equipment consist largely iron/steel parts that can be either reused (machinery) or sold for recyclation, otherwise its just few building that have to be decomisioned or repurposed, in total not bigger than average shopping centre. In my country companies running mines already have to do that and its no problem at all. Its still way cheaper than to clean up after retired wind/solar farm which consists mostly of non-recyclable materials that have to be either ecologically destroyed (or more likely just thrown on a landfill)...

@davidmaddon554

3 жыл бұрын

Sound like Oklahoma's no regulations on business is a bad idea. You should see the leaking oil wells.

Where is the green new deal now? Actually looks like our government right now, all broken and falling apart! Thanks Democrats you are something! 👍🏻

@MM-sf3rl

2 жыл бұрын

900 megawatt of new green energy was installed in Kansas in 2021 bringing millions to schools, cities and the private sector. There are 20,000 gas wells leaking methane abandon by billion dollar companies. Thanks.

Jail for the ones who stole tax payer money for this. 15 years a piece minimum.

@jasonlacroix6083

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like the price of tilapia will be dropping!

@dustbowlhammer7119

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the ones that are running the country right now? Never gonna happen.

@jakemallory4239

3 жыл бұрын

This was a private company windfarm that big oil lobbied and destroyed. look up "dewind Oklahoma." they invested 450 million to provide green energy and goverment and oil screwed them over.

@olivertaylor8788

3 жыл бұрын

I totaly agree,15 years jail.

"How dare you..."

It's sad to see infrastructure left to rot. Many American bridges, tunnels and railroads are in the same sad state.

@richard8031

5 ай бұрын

SEND more money to Ukraine!

I never understood how someone could spend so much money and just abandon it like that

@tammytruitt9316

3 жыл бұрын

Because they were spending taxpayers money...not their own.

@jamesrogers4674

3 жыл бұрын

It costed more than it made.

@ZubairKhan-vs8fe

3 жыл бұрын

Tax writeoffs You and i paid for it

@jellyfrosh9102

3 жыл бұрын

When you're spending other people's money it's pretty easy to not care

@johnsutcliffe3209

3 жыл бұрын

No one looks after another person's money like they look after their own. Milton Friedman

Who could ever have imagined a thousand small generators scattered across miles of fields exposed to all the elements would be more complex and costly to maintain than a handful of big ones safely inside a dedicated central power generation facility?

@jamesbulldogmiller

3 жыл бұрын

YOU Said It !!

@peterembranch5797

3 жыл бұрын

What of it? Those BIG generators require a fuel that's increasingly hard to come by, or produces toxic waste that lasts thousands of years, or a convenient river that doesn't exist. Life is rarely ideal.

@chrissmith7669

3 жыл бұрын

Ones that if properly built would have had no problems continuing to operate in the cold, as thousands do up north all winter long.

@tamilee9462

3 жыл бұрын

LOOK AT ALL THAT POWER!!!

@nilservik7964

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrissmith7669 I'm afraid you're wrong. There are no wind turbines that last long.

Whenever I see these wind farms off Freeway, less than half of them rotates. the others just stand still.

@jthepickle7

3 жыл бұрын

Resting

@JH-nq3qx

3 жыл бұрын

Because the wind is low or not blowing at all

@ghoward6797

3 жыл бұрын

Ok I'll go there, broken

@wardsmith2542

3 жыл бұрын

@@JH-nq3qx if half are moving, the wind is blowing, no?

@thewolfoftechstreet

3 жыл бұрын

@@wardsmith2542 The wind is only half blowing... Duh.

Come on, it can't be abandoned? They just went on a long lunch break.😆

These companies should be made to clean up their messes.

@LogiForce86

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, and that would prevent them from even going for government funding for their bullshit projects by selling them to aid with a non existing problem.

@fuckfannyfiddlefart

3 жыл бұрын

Capitalism functions in avoiding EXTERNALITIES! #CommunismNow

@LogiForce86

3 жыл бұрын

@@geoffmerritt True, and it's all over the globe. On one hand it is nice to see some of what used to be, on the other hand it would be nice for people to clean up their mess behind them. However, than we also need to prevent people from becoming homeless. Because at least the homeless still are able to find shelter in these buildings.

@LogiForce86

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuckfannyfiddlefart You have absolutely know idea of what you are asking for. Nobody wants to live in a country like China or see a German Democratic Republic 2.0 type deal. Let alone the gruesome events of the Russian Revolution that let to communism.

@fuckfannyfiddlefart

3 жыл бұрын

@@LogiForce86 History doesn't repeat. You are ignoring the violence and wage slavery TODAY. Don't forget that much of the "gruesome revoltion" was because several capitalist countries invaded, talk about victim blaming!

Notice the lack of moving parts. Very clever design.

@kevinmccance2777

3 жыл бұрын

Copper goldmine!

@ghoward6797

3 жыл бұрын

Man to early.....

@fightswithspirits915

3 жыл бұрын

Made me Santa laugh, that did. Nice one.

@insane4wheeler1

10 ай бұрын

only 120-180 gallons of oil inside it too.

Solar panels and wind turbines need to be renewed every 20 - 30 years. Which maybe why they are called renewable energy.

@Strep3

3 жыл бұрын

You said that (with remarkable amount of stupidity) as if gas, oil or coal power plants run forever without the need of servicing and, as you call it, renewing every few years of operation? What about NO need, for example , for any kind of lubricants to run solar panels vs running any kind of mechanical generator? Did you even try to see a video of what it takes to "renew" a gas operated power plant (and not to mention servicing it while its running)?

@MMCUSN

3 жыл бұрын

@@Strep3 You don't have to replace the entire power plant every 30 years. DAK

@nicolaivalenti4045

3 жыл бұрын

@@MMCUSN oh yeah, you do, even nuclear reactors change parts after so much time.

@willjohnson211

3 жыл бұрын

Those were only about 6 years old

@str8cold97

3 жыл бұрын

@@Strep3 Wonder how all the materials needed to build those solar panels got to where the solar panels are built? And to make the materials to make up what makes it a solar panel can only be heated up by coal. Green my ass

Clean energy right there!

That's a tweaker's paradise, lots of copper inside those behemoths.

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

Boom! and down she comes.....

@kristianskov4841

3 жыл бұрын

Oxy-acetylen torch, a truck with crane and nothing more is needed. Cut them like a tree, and chop them into smaller pieces and sell them for scrap.... It's been done before..........🙂

@MatHelm

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Aside from the steel stairways, everything else is simply too big to be used by a DIY'er.

@choppertimberland139

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Ojthemighty

3 жыл бұрын

Im surprised no one has salvaged these for scrap

They scam taxpayers out of the money for these things and skip out on doing the maintenance. Even a box fan needs maintenance.

@gmcinnis6304

3 жыл бұрын

ya think??? CLEANING IT once ina while... OIL THE BEARINGS??? with 3 in 1 oil??? once a month... take the guards off to clean it throw the guards off.. .if kids/pets dont know to NOT put their snout into the fan... they will learn quick enough.

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

@@gmcinnis6304 i say the same for PTO shaft Shields. If youre stupid enough to walk close to one with loose clothing, you deserve to be driving home shirtless. If your stupid enough to get wrapped in one, well, ill see you at your funeral. (Children need to be warched as it is around equipment and pets learn quick as it is)

@DerrickFishes

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure these got hit by a tornado

@rundme9325

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know about America, but I'm Oz it's a growing industry. My paycheck to do electrical install or maintenance is over $150k with 60 hour weeks so I love it. They are constantly serviced and the farmers who's land they go on get about $8-$10k per tower annually. We have a tessla battery being installed locally as we speak so I really can't knock em. Better than coal.

@taza99

3 жыл бұрын

@Bill Styles china doing things the old way doesn't mean no one else is allowed to improve. if china is doing so good, feel free to check it out

lets spend 10 million per windmill to generate 2 million worth of electricity.

@MaynardFreek

3 жыл бұрын

More like $2

@jimmykelley788

3 жыл бұрын

That's the democrats way, and then the kickbacks go straight to their bank accounts

@jimmykelley788

3 жыл бұрын

The new green U.S.

@jaywalker712

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmykelley788 Since money is so cheap to produce maybe we should just burn paper money to generate power.

@jimmykelley788

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree Jay, afterall, doesn't cost anything to print it I guess

I'm going to need more info on this subject description: Nope look elsewhere

The German company that made these got bought by a Korean company that went bankrupt in 2015 so parts are not available. The company started in 1995: these could be up to 20 years old, and it's clear some have been stripped for parts to keep others going. Like Saturn cars, Montgomery Wards, last model iPhones, ... You don't go to an automotive junk yard and say cars are a failure because of what you are seeing.

@dupi7887

3 жыл бұрын

They are 10 years old and are about 5 years abandoned

What we need is more new generation nuclear power plants like Thorium Salt.

@sharoncrawford3042

3 жыл бұрын

Yes we do. But under Dems. what you just saw is what we are going to have. Sickening to think of my grandchildrens future. I just want to burst into tears.

@theyuha

3 жыл бұрын

No not steam engines that are expensive and dangerous. or would you like to buy property in Chernoble or Fukishima? The elite is sitting on inventions that would make oil solar and wind obsolete. All of this is made in China. They are also sitting on a cure for cancer, what we need is a new ruling class who cares about our environment and health.

@michaelbagley9116

3 жыл бұрын

@@theyuha what nonsense are you spouting? Just another conspiracy nut.

@jasonlacroix6083

3 жыл бұрын

Were gonna need to buy a lot of roses to get rid of all that ash!

@boathead22000

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharoncrawford3042 boho

... sounds like the wind is still going strong

@ronclark9724

3 жыл бұрын

But these blades are NOT producing any electricity anymore... As LBJ once said, the only thing blocking the northern gusty winds from blowing us away on his Texas ranch was a barbed wire fence... Appears the northern gusty winds have blown down the windmill turbines...

@guypatts494

3 жыл бұрын

What a f waste

Ah yes, very sustainable and green. So glad my tax dollar subsidies are hard at work.

Well well, that looks very environmentally friendly

.....Let’s put wind farm in tornado alley to harness all of that free energy they said

Once again, Mother Nature wins.

@RacTac

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, bad quality just loses

@shirleyboy8859

3 жыл бұрын

Mother Nature will always win..... She has for Millions of years..... and will long after we are gone... :-)))

I saw several articles from 2011 but today's Wikipedia says.... *The company was since 2015 in liquidation and was deleted in the German Trade Register in December 2017.*

A lot of copper to collect ... :-)

But why would they abandon it? it thought wind farms where "EcO fRIendLY anD ProFItabLe"

@jaredgarbo3679

3 жыл бұрын

It seems the company that made them went bankrupt in 2015 so there may have been little maintenance. Also they have a life span of 20 years so could have been built in the 1990s/

@terrydouglas5008

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredgarbo3679 those are already outdated. Cost of maintenance exceeds the value. There are tens of thousands more modern wind turbines in Oklahoma. New ones cost over a million each.

@jaredgarbo3679

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrydouglas5008 That's pretty much what Im saying, but read all the comments and they sound like these are state of the art expensive systems which have been destroyed by Biden or something.

@terrydouglas5008

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredgarbo3679 I really don't like biden, but this wind farm has been shutdown for a few years. It's simply not economical and not economical to disassemble it. It's in an area land is still dirt cheap, maybe raise a cow over 10-20 acres. I have been through there even texas didn't want the land. Mostly indian land.

@markwilliams4525

3 жыл бұрын

Wind and solar is the most unreliable most subsidized forms of energy there ever was or will be!! You can't beat good old fashioned heavy oil or coal fired power plants, it will be there for you when this other "green" shit won't be!!

If folks haven't see Michael Moore's film "Planet of the Humans" you really should. I don't agree with anything Micheal Moore says but the film is an eye opener to this green energy bullshit these nuts are trying to push.

@Sonics62

3 жыл бұрын

Also what stood out in this film for me was the idea of Depopulation. Theirs too many of us on planet earth. Depopulation : where have I heard that term from (Gates).

@floridaman5654

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sonics62 fact! And him also buying up tens of thousands of acreage of land in the midwest. He's no one of the largest land owners in the country. Kind of odd to me.

@Sonics62

3 жыл бұрын

@@floridaman5654 Yea I know. I wonder what he's up to now buying all that land.

@kickie6323

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sonics62 To control the food supply. Starve the excess population to death. Gates is evil!

@Pistolpete147

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sonics62 absolutely! Bill Gates is one wicked wicked dude! His so called “foundation” with his scag of a wife want to depopulate the world to under 500 million. The world is 8 billion right now. Very telling of their agenda and this is a dark dark time for this country. We are now a communist country under this current administration

So much for that, "Renewable", part.

@stevenmazanek6016

3 жыл бұрын

The only thing really renewable are the turbines themselves. Their short life cycle will require constant abandonment and renewal.

Even Michael Moore figured out that "green" energy is a scam.

Even if they take them down there’s still 20’ of concrete and rebar in the ground

@edschultheis9537

3 жыл бұрын

It would make an impressive and immovable foundation for a house.

@Adventures_with_Josh

3 жыл бұрын

Looked like that one that had fallen ripped right outta the ground?

@heavyhaul8621

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adventures_with_Josh that’s only part of it. I’m surprised it came apart. The holes are humongous and deep.

@logoseven3365

3 жыл бұрын

Part of the ideal is put up new ones. But. If they aren’t subsidized, they aren’t “profitable”

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adventures_with_Josh Looks like the bolts holding the tower onto the concrete pad failed...probably from corrosion....lack of maintenance...and under-specification of the bolts?

I'd say this video sums up the Biden Administration.

@Badge1122

3 жыл бұрын

Biden, make America LAST.

@jb5music

3 жыл бұрын

And I'd say Giant abondoned miles long, football fields wide 100' deep coal strip mine operations sums up the Trump administration...

@tomnguyen9931

3 жыл бұрын

If anything it more like your FAILED life!!!

@lawrenceparker1523

3 жыл бұрын

@@jb5music the usa was energy independent under trump and beat the levels set by the paris accord.

@danielwyvern8892

3 жыл бұрын

@@jb5music - The 1977 Coal Mine Reclamation act requires that all coal strip mines must be reclaimed. Try another “Whataboutism”.

So efficient.

Wind farm in a tornado prone area, so smart

@resetcoder

3 жыл бұрын

They didn't read the manual, it clearly says indoor use only

Those windmills have the life expectancy of a chinese hand fan .

@justsomeguy934

3 жыл бұрын

And the damage to Prince William Sound by the Exxon Valdeez has the life expectancy of you, your children, your grand children, your great grandchildren, your.......

@andrewmahoney4249

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguy934 until there's a subsidy paid for by our grandchildren to cleaning it up

@justsomeguy934

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewmahoney4249 Subsidy to clean up what? An unused wind turbine or oil spills? To this day, 30 years later, Prince William Sound has not been remediated. Just dig into the shoreline soil a small amount and you'll find oil.

@gmcinnis6304

3 жыл бұрын

chinese fan will last a while if OIL THE BEARINGS OCCASIONALLY with 3 in 1 oil... which no one can do... throw away society... OIL??? what is that??? just buy a new car every 50,000 miles... change oil in the transmission? rear end? xfer case?? every 25,000 miles LIKE IT READS IN GD OWNERS MANUAL... oh i forgot in cell age no one car read more than 4 words before BY LAW have to hit SEND button... hi how are u SEND... im am fine SEND... how r the kid SEND... kids are fine SEND. as no one knows how to use a gd period anymore

@Withnail1969

3 жыл бұрын

its concerning to see how easily the turbine blades are delaminating.

The future of 'Green Energy'.

@muzkat101

3 жыл бұрын

@@rrialb9371 I'd say, the best strategy is for every state to utilize wind, solar, water, nuclear, and oil & natural gas; which ever is available and all options... all options rather than relying on just one or two. We need options, and every state should be focused on developing them all, and not by only focusing on 'green' projects while tossing proven ones under the bus. While I was against the Keystone Pipeline, it was approved. Biden was reckless for stopping it suddenly; despite the obvious environmental hazards it posed, it was, and is, still a better source for our country than to rely on Middle East oil. However, to do away with oil and natural gas altogether for 'green' energy is really not the way to go either; we are seeing dead windmill farms, and solar is only good where there is near year-round sun without cloudy skies -- wind is the same. You're right that 'crazy and unpredictable' winds are not good for wind farms; I agree. However, there has to be a balance of technology where it can be applied.

@brian.7966

3 жыл бұрын

@@rrialb9371 exactly. well said, sir.

@christophereverett5695

3 жыл бұрын

@@rrialb9371 you do know they can make fuel out of plastic recyclables , rubber tires and coal out of trees

@hdufort

3 жыл бұрын

Companies go bankrupt for various reasons. It happens in all types of businesses. The main reason is mismanagement. Nothing magic here. The US is littered with empty malls and yet, you're still shopping.

Ahhh clean green energy....I can smell it thru my phone

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

You need to see a doctor...

@samsungs7980

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-pl2bk speak of yourself.

“Martha, no TV today Martha. The windmills are still broken Martha.”

@thomasschafer7268

3 жыл бұрын

It's not the time for joking. Look at your country! I say only Florida

@AppalachianPatriot

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasschafer7268 What’s wrong with Florida?

Epic video, thanks for posting it. Abandoned wind farms should be covered by a decommissioning program funded by developers. Otherwise you’ll end up like the oil industry with thousands of abandoned wells that need to be plugged by taxpayers. The policy should be that you don’t allow someone to externalize their costs by taking profits and never funding cleanup. I understand that turbine blades are especially hard to dispose of unlike most of the rest of the installation.

That's a glimpse of the green new deal 20 years from now..

@solaroid4442

3 жыл бұрын

We need a couple of skeletons left by the slaves that built it for that comparison.

@johnhnett

3 жыл бұрын

@@solaroid4442 or find skeletons in the closet of those who made money from it.

@sharoncrawford3042

3 жыл бұрын

How far and fast this country is falling is shocking.

@reallifelegend4781

3 жыл бұрын

@@sharoncrawford3042 and then there are those of us who warned in 1990 and before then that this time was coming, and we were made fun of. Yet, here we are, exactly as we foretold.

@jamesbass9797

3 жыл бұрын

@@reallifelegend4781 -- EXACTLY!! I've been screaming it since 1991 in the ISO 9000 era.

From the noise on the video, there sure does seem to be enough wind. But seriously, the farms are abandoned because they have used up there useful life and the owner walks away instead of decommissioning the site. Up here in Ohio, we buy mine insurance because of abandoned coal mines. A few miles from my house, the county had to run water lines because the water wells were contaminated with benzene from leaking underground pipelines. Another area had to have waterlines put in because a dry cleaner dumped their used dry cleaning solution behind the store. It contaminated the ground water. This is how it is in our country. I call it our 3M society and the 3M's are Money, Materialism and ME

I work for a large wind developer in the US. - I can tell you that in our contracts $$ is set aside for de-commissioning a park. - Usually they upgrade them though. This film is certainly an exception. I have never heard of that turbine brand name.

20 of these working perfectly for 20 years won't offset the CO2 that is generated making the cement used to build the base for 1. Now that makes all kinds of environmental sense.

@MaynardFreek

3 жыл бұрын

The earth and all its greenery consumes CO2 as food. So why must we eliminate CO2?

@Tore_Lund

3 жыл бұрын

What are they, 2MW turbines? Makes 10MW/h per day, saving 4 tonnes CO2 daily, (compared to the US average) Saves the world for 26,000 tonnes CO2 in its 20 years lifetime. A tonne of concrete emits 100 kg CO2, most from the klin but also including the iron ore gone into the rebar, so the concrete for the foundation of the turbine is what 40 tonnes? That means that the emissions from it is 4 tonnes CO2 is 6500 times less than it saves the world for in its life time. Please get pen and paper and do some halfassed napkin calculations, as I do as a minimum, before littering the internet with flawed hypothesises.

@ke0wpc

3 жыл бұрын

Tore Lund DeWind Never made a 2MW wind turbine for the US. Also your calculations seem to favor the fact that they are running 24/7. I live in a wind farm and sometimes a week will go by and they never even turned on. I am not saying you are incorrect about efficiency but your numbers are a bit exaggerated.

@Tore_Lund

3 жыл бұрын

@@ke0wpc I said 10MWh/Day =5 hours of nominal 2MW power every 24 hours is that too optimistic as a year round daily average? Still a turbine has to make a Lot less before the emissions from its foundation becomes significant. Looked Up a random number on the internet: Average emissions from a wind turbine is 34gCO2/kWh, i.e. indeed Worse than solar, because maintennance is more intensive, but slightly Better than nuclear at 43g.

@NeedlessPedantics

2 жыл бұрын

Yet unfounded drivel like the original comment get 30+ likes, meanwhile even some quick and dirty math shows it’s complete nonsense. Popular sure doesn’t mean correct. Facts sure don’t matter to people who came here with their minds already made up.

The batteries are probably leaking into the ground also

I would bet just about every mid to large city in the USA have abandoned factories, plants & properties along with buried hazardous waste that were beneficiaries of city/state/federal tax incentives at one time or another. At least the land around the turbines can be used for crops or grazing. Ya can't develop over a waste site without risk.

@prdanpr8299

2 жыл бұрын

Turbine need to be removed before anyone can work near them

Looks like tom cruise and comapny flew through there trying to evade capture in a hurry

@Ojthemighty

3 жыл бұрын

Mi3 what a film

WOW that looks so clean & Green LOL

@GregHighPressure

3 жыл бұрын

WOW so edge. much knowledge..

Think of all the new roads and bridges that could have been built.

@HighSpeedNoDrag

3 жыл бұрын

Not a Tear Drop in the mother Fing Bucket dude.

I had seen an abandoned solar farm before, but not wind farm. I thought this would not happen because the profit of supplying the grid would cover the maintenance.

@illuminate4622

2 жыл бұрын

This happened because the manufacturer(DeWind) was of exceptionally poor quality.

Wow. This is where I grew up. Since I've become an adult, windfarms have come and gone in my place of birth.

@azmike3572

3 жыл бұрын

What town is this near? Can visitors get close?

@JeffNeelzebub

3 жыл бұрын

@@azmike3572 I’m not sure, the description only says “Oklahoma panhandle”, but the largest town in the panhandle is Guymon, where I was born.

@azmike3572

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffNeelzebub I tried researching its location, but couldn't find exact info.

@JeffNeelzebub

3 жыл бұрын

@@azmike3572 Could be the ponderosa wind farm, about 40 miles east of Guymon

@azmike3572

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffNeelzebub Ponderosa Wind Farms seem to be a new build.

Should be a $1 million dollar fine for green littering (each turbine) the landscape. Disgusting considering we subsidized those monsters.

@gmcinnis6304

3 жыл бұрын

companies bankrupt, everyone ran their separate ways with their TO GO bags full of $$$ to non extradition countries... with NEW ID's/passports. done and done. same with abandoned oil / gas wells that they just let vent to the atmosphere instead of at least flaring the gas. methane 25x worse greenhouse gas than CO.

@bartholomewdan

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know about you but I much prefer the look of a wind farm than a coal power plant.

Think of all the tax dollars you're looking at right here 💸💸💸💸🤑😭

@ronclark9724

3 жыл бұрын

Political government CORRUPTION!

@tomnguyen9931

3 жыл бұрын

What tax dollars????? I'm sure the owner have insurance on those turbines!!! The owner get 1-2 cents per KW it generated. Get your facts straight before engaging fingers!!!

@allanc3655

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomnguyen9931 You need to get your facts straights. Every wind generator is subsidize by the government (AKA the tax payers). A wind generator will not pay for it's self till it is near 23 years old (at 70% use...AKA near 17 hrs working a day ) with no break downs (impossible for the blades have to be recoated about every 3 or 4 years). And their life is only 25 to 30 years. The carbon footprint on building maintaining and removing them is greater the what Nat gas fired elec is. And where do you think the resin for the fiberglass blades come from???(oil) and where does it go when it life is over (landfills) and how much CO2 is release when they pour 30+ tons of concrete to anchor those thing in place. Our grand kids are going to think us as fools

@donavonrobbins1908

3 жыл бұрын

Saw a ship carrying two blades up the St. Mary's river to Lake Superior. Bound for Minnesota. Wondered how much fuel was burned to get those 2 blades delivered. How much the delivery fee for those two blades was. And since the ship was riding so high with the light load, how much salt water ballast got dumped, contaminating the fresh water with whatever organisms this time. All so that some politicians back yard can look like teletubby land with a windmill. At least some sailors got employed, but they probably weren't even American.

@BaltimoreAndOhioRR

3 жыл бұрын

@Rob Peters nope, taxpayer subsidized. Our tax dollars.

If I owned that wind farm I would replace all of the wind turbines

Come out to west Texas, and I'll show you millions of pounds of abandoned equipment and thousands of abandoned unplugged oil wells.

All the money that could have help the community but didn't makes me sad.

I actually enjoyed this video. I'm hoping to see more.

Usually written into the original contract that the energy company cleans up. In reality, the company sells that wind farm to a new, made up company. Then the "new" company files for bankruptcy and old company moves on to do it all over again with subsidized money.

@justsomeguy934

3 жыл бұрын

You mean like Exxon cleaned up the Valdeez spill? Valdeez oil spill 30 years later: www.hakaimagazine.com/news/wounded-wilderness-the-exxon-valdez-oil-spill-30-years-later/

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

John Smith 1 second ago No, just bad maintenance by the owners Another commenter said: The company that put the turbines up initially filed bankruptcy. This project has since changed ownership twice. It's only a matter of time before others fall down as well. Worst decision we've ever made is letting these folks put those god damn eye sores on our land. Now they have hundreds of thousands in tax liens against them and us land owners haven't been paid in several years." Rip off companies exist because free market..... Get your State Govt to legislate against them, revert the land to the use of the owners and negotiate with a better company for mega turbines, with a clean up clause and a bond up front held in trust by the State. States always like free money...

Mining companies have to replace the overburden when they are done extracting a resource. How about we do the same with wind farms?

@redacted8092

3 жыл бұрын

Green tech gets the pass on all things Environmental, the ultimate irony of all the Green Tech cultists who cheer on alternatives without addressing the realities of these alternative energy gathering technologies.

@stacyrethman8675

3 жыл бұрын

that was a dead on reply Nathan.... Dead on the nose... This is what i get to look forward to in 20 years when the wind farm that went on-line last fall is at its life expectancy...

I wonder what the carbon footprint of this mess was? Renewables expensive, unrecognizable

A great look at the future of wind power in the US...it now provides about 3% of our electricity. A bonus is that it's also unreliable, and these broken turbines will cost a fortune to tear down and put into landfills. They are not recyclable; they are huge and very heavy.

@illuminate4622

3 жыл бұрын

No.. Please. Wind actually provides 7% of U.S. electricity, more than double your figure www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php The "unreliability", or intermittency as it's properly known, is mitigated through a combination of storage(pumped hydro, batteries, hydrogen, flywheels, molten salt/hot rock), long distance transmission- nowadays with high voltage direct current(can be done with underground cable as well, Germany does that www.nkt.com/references/corridor-projects-germany ), other generators responding, mainly gas turbines& piston engine plants(can be fueled with renewable) www.wartsila.com/marine/build/engines-and-generating-sets ) and guiding demand to respond to production, such as air conditioning, heating, refrigerators; everything with thermal mass, and scheduling activities such as vacuum cleaning for the windy times. Only the blades of wind turbines are not recyclable *for now,* everything else, the concrete and rebar of the foundation, the steel of the tower, the aluminum of the cables, the copper of the generator windings, the silicon in the transistors of the inverters, and the cast iron in the bearing mount and gearbox; those can be recycled, everything that's metal can be recycled infinitely 100%.

@danbeyer1483

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, looking at the video, they seem to be a great investment.

@illuminate4622

3 жыл бұрын

@william tell But the thing is that new wind *doesn't need subsidies.* Just google it and find some huge competitive projects. And the noise/vibration/disturbance/health problem and many more is being solved by *putting the turbines at sea.* There's even a freely floating wind farm in Scotland! And one really good project that's coming- look up Dogger Bank offshore wind farm. It'll be 3.6 GW and the actual average production(capacity factor) 70% of that.

@mksherwood3068

3 жыл бұрын

@@illuminate4622 No. Please. Don't spread .gov propaganda. These deteriorate quickly and yet I see them hauled on the highway every time I drive. Federal subsidies are what is going on here.

@illuminate4622

3 жыл бұрын

@@mksherwood3068 I mean these European projects literally don't have subsidies. Maybe it's because American coal plants can spew as much mercury as they wish and cause autism and with that offloading have artificially low prices. Still, subsidy-free renewables are taking off even in America. You're unsaveable though. Bye.

Wind power costs a fortune to maintain. For very little power generated. But it’s big money when you can fool a community into paying out on the promise of “free energy “

Wow that’s crazy. Seems like some value in scrap/parts would be there still

@illuminate4622

2 жыл бұрын

If you have a crane, go there and get it. The towers are steel, the main bearing mount is cast iron. The blades are fiberglass, so useless. Then there's the expensive one: copper in the generators and cables. I support green energy but they messed up big time when building this. No wonder DeWind is bankrupt.

@insane4wheeler1

10 ай бұрын

The cost of blowing them up so they safely fall. then cutting them up to fit on trucks. Then hauling to a recycling place that accepts the material how many hundreds of miles away. The coper is the only worth item in the bunch. The blade is useless..

So, we have to clean up fossil fuels and such due to environmental issues but green energy leftovers can just sit and become eyesores?

@Graeberwave

3 жыл бұрын

Shut the fuck up

@BA-pg4od

3 жыл бұрын

@@Graeberwave In your dreams. Zippy.

@sergeig685

3 жыл бұрын

Eyesore and cancer are two very different things.

@BA-pg4od

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergeig685 Maybe you would like to educate yourself. Iowa’s wind industry has been going for barely a decade and already wind power outfits are sending thousands of tonnes of toxic waste to landfill. While the owners of the waste facilities concerned are worried about the enormous amount of space being taken up, those surrounding these tips ought to be more concerned about the toxic cocktail of chemicals that will eventually find their way into underground streams and, ultimately, their water supply.

@BA-pg4od

3 жыл бұрын

​@@sergeig685 "(the plastics in the blade are highly toxic, and contain Bisphenol A, which is so dangerous to health that the European Union and Canada have banned it):"

The Green movement...Reality...and yet billions more on the way for more.

@wilhelmushoffmann8054

3 жыл бұрын

Build in the USA! Just like all them paperbox houses that get blown over in a storm.

@tedburg6042

3 жыл бұрын

And the alternative is what intelligent person? Just keep on fossil because its going to last forever? lmfao.

@gilvietor1918

3 жыл бұрын

@@tedburg6042 well, if you want to get serious about it, yes. Until hippies realize that nuke is the only way till we find a way to make solar/wind not bad for the environment, yes. Wind requires very bad stuff to make, it isn't green for the earth, remotely. Sure, its end product appears green, but it isn't in total. Right now, natural gas is escaping into the atmosphere, all over California from natural wells, which is a green house gas, but hippies won't let us capture it or burn it (which makes it not a green house gas).

@tedburg6042

3 жыл бұрын

In the future, no more fossil fuel. Perhaps we can render some heating oil from human remains as we are making the soylent green for your decendents to survive on

@peterembranch5797

3 жыл бұрын

All over Europe these things are working just fine. A reality that deniers curiously ignore. It's like anything else: some people do a good job, others do a bad job. We're doing a bad job.

All of this looks pretty sustainable to me.

@phoulmouth

3 жыл бұрын

I found a trumptard! Look it right there ^

@Damien.D

3 жыл бұрын

@@phoulmouth WTF you're talking about?

These things have to be maintained like anything. Either the company pulled out of the contract or went bankrupt and that's where this ended.

@mweskamppp

3 жыл бұрын

Or they bought the cheapest one available.

@willjohnson211

3 жыл бұрын

Dewind was a German company bought by a Japanese company and the idiots decided to use a model the Germans had as prototypes. Massive money pits and they went bankrupt.

These turbines might be from as early as the mid-90s. That company went bankrupt several times. Thanks for the content. Keep up the good work. בס״ד

@Stefan_Dahn

3 жыл бұрын

These are Dewind 2 MW turbines from 2000-2005 or so - I suspect.

@insane4wheeler1

10 ай бұрын

These are the remains of the Frisco Wind Farm project, east of Texhoma, completed in 2012. The project was technically in Texas.

All that ugliness! I think all those greeners ought to clean up their mess!

Kudos to whomever produced this. I wonder what the cost/benefit breakdown turned out to be. Are you and I paying for the ground lease? Who will cover the cost of cleanup? I remember when this was touted to be THE answer to all of our energy needs.

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

No, just bad maintenance by the owners Another commenter said: The company that put the turbines up initially filed bankruptcy. This project has since changed ownership twice. It's only a matter of time before others fall down as well. Worst decision we've ever made is letting these folks put those god damn eye sores on our land. Now they have hundreds of thousands in tax liens against them and us land owners haven't been paid in several years." Rip off companies exist because free market..... Get your State Govt to legislate against them, revert the land to the use of the owners and negotiate with a better company for mega turbines, with a clean up clause and a bond up front held in trust by the State. States always like free money...

I don't know how, but I am sure the tree-huggers wanted to blame Trump

@illuminate4622

2 жыл бұрын

Please see the "DeWind" label on every one of them. Well that company is long bankrupt and gone. They're the exception, not the rule of wind energy.

In France they push for them but just burry the old ones in the ground since they don t know how to recycle them...so much for beiing green...

@xAnAngelOfDeathx

3 жыл бұрын

Provide a citation(s) proving what you are saying.

This will be what the whole United States looks like in 50 years

@DianeSturlinXX

3 жыл бұрын

I can see you're an optimist! I only give it 2 years!

@jasonlacroix6083

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen plenty of pictures like these already.

@HighSpeedNoDrag

3 жыл бұрын

We are already there dummy.

@DianeSturlinXX

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonlacroix6083 I live in north Texas, I've been seeing this in person for over a decade.

@DianeSturlinXX

3 жыл бұрын

@@HighSpeedNoDrag yep, you really don't need to State the obvious otherwise the pictures wouldn't exist! I don't think it's wise for people to assume the intelligence quotient of another individual! Dummy???

Well considering that Oklahoma doesn’t require any other energy ventures to do any sort of clean up nor site remediation it’s good to see that they don’t require renewables to meet a higher standard.

Advertisement for ☢️ energy advocates. I'm only less than 2 hours away from a pair of reactors that are over 50 years old and still operational to this day (Peach Bottom 2 & 3).

@5roundsrapid263

3 жыл бұрын

I live two hours away from the last reactor built in America. When Texas was freezing, we still had power. It was just as cold, if not colder here. We also have hydroelectric and fossil plants. Diversify, people.

This is Classic..Pollution caused by "green energy technologies"

Looks like someone tried to get rich before the technology was perfected.

@ronclark9724

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, starting with Al Gore and Barack Obama...

The sound of all the wind in the vid is interesting 😊

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a new mega turbine or 10 made in USA by GE looks like the ticket for this site....

@gmcinnis6304

3 жыл бұрын

totally annoying... recorder didnt know how to MUTE the recorder, the video, put in music/documentary... nothing. just wind noise, how annoying

@JohnSmith-pl2bk

3 жыл бұрын

@@gmcinnis6304 That's the irony of the sound...that wind is strong and constant...and argues directly that this is an ideal site for future wind turbines..... Muting it with music...who could have figured that out....?

Remember when they tried to convince us these bird blenders were the future of power generation?🙄

@jantimmerby

3 жыл бұрын

We have lots of wind turbines here in Denmark. It works fine and gives us a large percentage of our power. Wind turbines are not the solution, but they are part of the solution.

So green, saving the planet bit by bit...It's wonderful to see.

It's so green, but no cleanup. I guess green means trash. An eyesore

This is why companies should have to post a bond prior to construction in the event that company who owns the windfarm goes insolvent. Oil and Gas companies have to post bonds for wells so wind and solar projects should not be exempt either. Fair is fair. Mining, oil and gas and renewables should all be held to the same standards.

@retiredbitjuggler3471

3 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%! I think transitioning to renewable energy is the right thing to do in the long run, but only if it’s true cradle to grave costs are covered. Nothing lasts forever, so the equipment’s eventual demise needs to be covered in the initial deployment. There should be no blind admiration while viewing the “eco-friendly” components of the renewable energy rainbow. We may only discovery a pot of fool’s gold at it’s end

I live in Oklahoma and didnt know this was out there.

I am really shocked to see this. All the many millions of dollars wasted! Why was this allowed to happen? Here in Texas we learned just how sorry our power supplier was and now I see this! What the hell is going on and why!

@ThePbatemon

3 жыл бұрын

So from the little info I can find it seems they where never connected to the grid for some reason

@banzaiib

3 жыл бұрын

hurts, when you realize the truth... that government fed utilities are a gigantic waste of tax money, and only serve to line the pockets of those connected with politicians... this is not capitalism. This is cronyism.

@mittfh

3 жыл бұрын

If companies are subsidised to build renewable plants but not to run them (e.g. guaranteed minimum price per unit of electricity generated), they'll likely build the plants, cash in, then abandon them - especially as regulatory agencies seem unable to force companies to clean up their own mess (since they can often declare bankruptcy as a get-out clause).

This might be the future people.

@freedomforever6718

3 жыл бұрын

Without subsidies "green" energy would not exist. They are *not* economically viable standing on their own.

@tim2applecell323

3 жыл бұрын

But it’s the present, now today not the future.

What incredible beauty! And its so good for the environment! Moar pleeze!

i like the idea of vertical axis turbines.. still need periodic bearing lube and speed governors

Bird killing wind turbines now rotting away, not even used by birds for nests.

@ValeriePallaoro

3 жыл бұрын

People kill more birds than turbines; heck more birds fly into house window glass than hit turbines. WTf are you talking about?

Regular guy: Hey this area gets tornadoes every year do you really think it’s such a good idea to put a bunch of big propellers here? Democrats: absolutely.

@cpgone

3 жыл бұрын

Same in Tx , they are sprouting like turds from a puppy here

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

@@cpgone lol and who pays for it?

@cpgone

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrT13 Not sure how the subsidies fall.. Its almost a cult here. What is needed is battery storage made from lithium and cobalt.. ( oh forget it , very dirty process)

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

@@cpgone funny how apparently all the high sulfur regular red diesel used in the big industrial machinery like bucket excavators rock crushers chemicals and all the mining machinery that goes into that as well. The ore processing plants. The copper mining machinery and processing plants on and on that it actually takes to mine and produce a 1200lb bank of lithium batteries ultimately EXCEEDS the same co2 productionof an average Ford F-150 driving on gasoline for 200,000 miles. Yet the ppl who buy them think or don’t I should say. That they are magically grown in a electric car field lol...........

@MrT13

3 жыл бұрын

There’s a few ppl who have tried to figure out all the stuff that goes into mining and production in order to produce one popular electric car. And apparently they are actually worse for the environment once everything is tallied up. Funny how that works. Yet they are the ones saving the environment lol.

Great heritage, super for the environment!!

@Peter-pu7bo

3 жыл бұрын

Better than an abandoned Nuclear power plant 🤔 And yes they should get this stuff out of the environment when it's broken.

@0ct0puz

3 жыл бұрын

At least these metals and plastics don't mess with the methane trapped in ice

would love to see the data recorders, looks like a tornado came thru!

@carlwitt3934

3 жыл бұрын

Would that make a difference?? It's Oklahoma... If these bird blenders weren't designed to handle a tornado, why the hell were they built in the middle of "TORNADO ALLEY"?!?!🙄

@bikesqump

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlwitt3934 you are 1000% correct, also houses should not be built in the path of a tornado too right? oops...

@carlwitt3934

3 жыл бұрын

@@bikesqump Care to name a few housing developments in tornado alley that was funded by my tax money and then left to rot?? Yeah, didn't think so. Anyone with an I.Q. above room temperature can see the glaring holes in your argument.🙄

@MurDocInc

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it only takes dust to take them down. Those blades are under high wind forces, mix in some dust and they basically being sand blasted. Over time holes form in the resin which catch even more particles then the fiber layers start to strip. structural integrity is compromised, blade snaps, taking out another blade or the stem.

@sergeig685

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlwitt3934 You mean every single development that first gets wiped out and then gets rebuild with emergency relief funds from the Fed on a regular basis just to be blown away again?