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OMG!! I have actually been on Platforms 1&2 when the trams were using them. The car park section has actually been built up, and the platforms were directly below where you were standing. You can see this if you look closely at the tunnel portal. These were originally built for the trains that would have served the Northern Beaches. However, they were converted for the trams. There was a Milsons point Tram station which was directly opposite the current train station in the position of the old toll booths. The trams then crossed a bridge that brought them into Blues St at North Sydney station. I rode the trams with my grandmother on the last day of service in 1958. The eastern Tram tunnel portal was used for many years as a rifle/pistol range for the police. I remember the tram stop that was at the exit/entrance to the bridge, and a seat was left there for many, many years as a reminder. The tracks at Wynyard and Milsons Point had to be raised to accommodate the trams as they were originally for trains. Thanks for the memories, Phil.

@Elitist20

Жыл бұрын

You can still see the remnant of the tram route leading from North Sydney Station, right beside the rail line, to where the bridge used to be - it's now closed off and used as a car park, I think for bridge maintenance vehicles.

@aussiejohn5835

Жыл бұрын

@Elitist20 Yes, you are correct, and for some time, you could see the tracks.

@robertthomson1587

Жыл бұрын

At Milson's Point station you can still see the where the entrance was that led to the stairs up to the tram platforms. It's filled in now, but it's pretty obvious.

@aussiejohn5835

Жыл бұрын

@@robertthomson1587 At the end of the pedestrian tunnel, east end.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

Жыл бұрын

@@aussiejohn5835 Is this directly opposite the dry cleaners, wedged between the vacant shops to the left and male toilets to the right?

Back in the late 1970s - early 1980s, I used to work in the old Sydney Head Office of the Commonwealth Department of Social Security, (now known as Centrelink), in Carrington Street, almost directly above these tunnels, and I used to drive there from my home in Ryde, arriving before 7:30am, so that I could park there for the whole day, for the princely sum of, (IIRC), $1.00 or $2.00, and it was called *_"Early Bird Parking."_* I would start work at 8:00am, finish at 6:00pm, have a few drinks in the *Red Lion Bar of the Menzies Hotel,* and drive back home in the late peak hour traffic. I would do this every day from Monday to Friday every 1st week, and from Mondy to Thursday every 2nd week, and take the 2nd Friday off, because I would be entitled to a day off each fortnight, called a *"Flexi-Day,"* which I was owed because I had worked 10 hours more than the minimum required over the 10 working days. In those days, we operated on something called *"Flexi-Time,"* which meant that we could begin work every day at any time between 8:00am and 9:30am, and finish at any time between 4:51pm and 6:00pm. We were required to work a minimum of 73 hours and 21 minutes per fortnight, and if we had accumulated sufficient excess hours, we could then take one day off in the following fortnight. I'm fairly sure that such a scheme no longer exists, but I have no way of knowing, because I have been retired for over 25 years.

@JamesFFiT

Жыл бұрын

Hi Christopher we work 7.21 hour days at the ATO between 7am-7pm and have Flex Time. 8:30-16:51 being a standard day:) 73.5 hours per fortinight. Working 8.10 mins a day will get you a 9 day fortnight / 1 day off.

@Christopher.E.Souter

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesFFiT So, nothing's changed since the 1970s, then! 😂 I have no idea how old you are, but in the late 1970s or early 1980s, I attended a stage play at the Seymour Centre, near Sydney University. The play was called *_"Flexitime,"_* and it was set in an unnamed Public Service office. I shall never forget the first line of the play. A bored-looking clerk walks in, carrying a mug of coffee, sits down at his desk and says: *_"Ah... Monday... Oh well, it's only two days until Wednesday, and then the week will be half over!"_* 😆

@JamesFFiT

Жыл бұрын

@@Christopher.E.Souter yes some could be like that! Luckily for me I love my job.

@ianeland2323

Ай бұрын

Brings back memories. I also worked in Carrington St Social Security between 1975 -1985 (my first job after leaving school). Started in the mail room. We could always feel the earth rumble when trains were passing underneath us. Long lunches were all the go. It always seemed to someone's birthday. Frequented a lot of the Menzie's bars, but we made the Occidental hotel accros the park over in York St. our home away from work. Some of our work mates were so paracletic after lunch, we would use office chairs on castors to wheel them back over the road and prop them up at their desks to "continue"work. Of course, there was always a continuing black jack card game going on in the basement. We would duck down in the goods lift and have a few hands when the opportunity arose. I'm 65 now. Gee, I miss those days. Haven't been to the city for a long time until recently, it's changed so much.

I remember the trams over the bridge. I used to travel to the city and used that platform to go to the city when I lived at Kirribilli in the late fifties. Memories.

Interesting to see. I remembering exploring in that car park a few years back too. I think right behind the brick wall you were walking past is platform 3. There were a few gaps in the wall because I remember looking through and basically seeing a train coming into the platform literally only a few inches away from me! They made the car park two levels to utilise more space for parking so the lower level will have been the old platforms, the upper level was added later. The tunnels go right out to the harbour bridge and the old exits are visible from the walkway across. They bored a separate tunnel in from the side to form the exit of the car park - that's still visible on Cumberland St. The rest of the tunnels from that point to the harbour bridge are largely empty. I think at the harbour bridge end the last part is where the shooting range is/was (from the outside you can see an old NSW Rail Institute organisation sign). The other tunnel is used for ventilation. Some urbex explorer posted a video of what I imagine was an illegal exploration they did of those parts of the tunnels! (Search for exploring sydney abandoned tramway tunnel). Car park (used to be called Wynyard Lane) certainly closed at the time of the new Brookfield Place development work. Not sure what's happening to it - I heard a rumour it was still used as a car park for the construction workers but whether it will in future be a car park for the office block I don't know. Certainly can't walk into it any more :( Yes Milsons Point station used to be effectively double what it is now - there were mirror platforms (originally meant for trains but used for trams) on what is now the Cahill Expressway. I haven't seen them but the old steps up to those platforms are apparently still there (behind the dry cleaner). I believe the harbour bridge toll collectors used to use them to access those toll booths - also now demolished.

@josheduncan

Жыл бұрын

The carpark is virtually deserted now. They are used for access to Sydney Trains signalling equipment, aswell as storage for station related construction materials.

I got off on those platforms many times - you could see the trains on the other ones.

2:50 *Milsons Point tram station* The old Milsons Point tram station was located on what is now the Cahill Expressway on the eastern side of the bridge, opposite the train station. Part of this former tram station area is now a bus marshalling area. Back in the 1990s, there was a toll booth plaza for drivers travelling north to the city, taking the easterly route over Circular Quay. Trams Downunder has a April 2006 article about Milsons Point tram station, with a photo of the station’s final day of service back in 1958.

Thanks for uploading and sharing. Very interesting. DM.

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

No worries at all, thank you for watching :)

Hi Phil, thanks for sharing an excellent video. Wynyard Platforms 1 and 2 were my favourite platforms. I always enjoyed traveling on the trams across the Sydney Harbour Bridge as a child. From the rail platforms, they used to have a standard wooden palling fence dividing Platforms 1 and 2 from the other platforms. Some years later, my curiosity got the better of me and I actually sneaked up the stairway that led to the car park. When entering the car park, I was stopped by an attendant, who asked me what I was doing there. I nervously said "Er...isn't this the train platform??" I was hoping that he would just think that I was lost or something. However, I don't think he really believed me and told me to leave immediately. I later found out that many tram and train enthusiasts had tried this exact same thing and had been stopped by the same attendant. Soon after, the stairway was completely blocked off. Incidentally, from what I have heard recently, those two platforms are no longer used as a car park and they now contain psychedelic images or similar. Anyway, take care. Rob in Melbourne Australia.

AWESOME BIT OF INVESTIGATIVE WORK👍👍👍👍

Yes, it was used by trams only for a interim period during the 1930's depression, until the northern beaches line was completed, after crossing the Harbour Bridge the line then crossed over the Bradfield Highway to enter North Sydney station, although trams didn't enter the station area they were diverted to road level, this ended in 1958 when construction commenced for the current Warringah Highway, there were two Milsons point Stations one on the east and the current one on the west side of the bridge approach structure, the track was lifted up to a higher level above the bridge steel structure at the east platform for the purpose of easy access from the tram as there was big difference in height from rail to platform for heavy rail then low level trams.

*Milsons Point tram station history* Before the elevated Milsons Point tram station was built as part of the Harbour Bridge in 1932, the Milsons Point tram line in 1924 had its northern terminus at Glen St where it was co-located with the temporary Lavender Bay train station and ferry wharf. The station featured Australia’s only operating escalator at the time, as the cliff face had too much elevation between the higher tram terminus and the train station ferry wharf below which was at sea level. From Glen St the tram hooked left to minor Dind St, then left again to Alfred St (now Alfred St South) where it travelled north towards North Sydney. In 1930 a temporary tram track line diversion was made north of the concrete arch underbridge, which is now the Alfred and Lavender Sts exit from Bradfield Hwy. It is obvious that the diversion did not pass under the arch as a photo proves this; this is beyond doubt. However, past this point, the diversion route is uncertain. There are 2 diversion possibilities. 1. The track ran a slight distance north to what is now Middlemiss St, then passed under the northern approach viaduct which featured the new train and tram tracks built on top, as it is obvious that these spaces were just empty voids in 1930. Today, these converted warehouse spaces under the northern approach closer to North Sydney station contain a Work inc co-working space, an exotic car dealership and car repair shop. The diversion underneath the viaduct would appear to be what is today Bay 8 of the viaduct warehouses. After the track emerged on the eastern side of the approach, there was a left turn into Junction St (Pacific Hwy). This is the most probable explanation to be true. 2. The track ran much further north into Middlemiss St, then made a quick series of turns, turning right into the Arthur St underbridge, then left into Junction St (Pacific Hwy). However, after reviewing a 4 May 1931 photo which shows Junction St and a glimpse of the Arthur St underbridge, while looking north to the still standing Methodist church and post office, it is obvious that the tram tracks did not turn right into the Arthur St underbridge. Rather, the track still continues south along Junction St towards the new Alfred St intersection. As a consequence, this explanation is less likely to be true. In either case, after the track emerged on the eastern side of the approach, there was a left turn into Junction St (Pacific Hwy) where it proceeded north, turned right into Walker St, turned left into Mount St where Channel Nine studios and Brett Whiteley Place is now. The track then made a right turn into Miller St where the MLC Building is now, then proceeded north towards North Sydney Oval. Naturally, the Milsons Point and separate McMahons Point (Blues Point Rd) tram lines immediately closed after Harbour Bridge Opened on Saturday 19 March 1932. _Trolley Wire_ magazine for April 1982 (No. 199) and June 1982 (No. 200) has an excellent 2 part feature on the building of the Bridge, which gives a good commentary on how the tram services existed and finished before and after the Bridge came to being. The Trolley Wire archives are within the Sydney Tramway Museum website. By all accounts, _The Bridge_ (2005) by Peter Lalor is a fantastic read, with the book being essential reading for all Sydneysiders.

thank you for very interesting video 😊

In 1998/9 when building the Citigroup center at 2 park st, they accidentally punched into the old tram tunnel on the south west corner of the 2nd basement level parking. There is a door on the west wall under the ramp that goes into the pipe room and you can see the old brickwork from the tunnel.

Awesome, thanks alot.

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

No worries, thanks for watching :)

Super fascinating!

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

Cheers :)

@ElsaMusicVideos

Жыл бұрын

@@AbandonedOZ Np!

Known about the story of these platforms for a while, but still super interesting to see. It would be interesting to see what hints remain of the platforms existence within the "working" station itself. Also, I doubt much can be done with these tunnels and platforms, so even if it's all closed off now or whatever, I doubt the tunnels will ever really change beyond their current state. And I daresay, given how people propose to change the Cahill Expressway etc, AND the reintroduction of light rail, I don't really see much reason why these tunnels couldn't be returned to their original purpose for one reason or another.

@aussiejohn5835

Жыл бұрын

There were a set of stairs on the concourse for many years that led to nowhere. They were opposite the stairs that go to platforms 3&4 .I don't know if they still exist.

Great video

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

This is cool, didn't know about this.

The trams ran on dual track from Wynyard across the Sydney Harbour Bridge (on the eastern side of the bridge) to a dedicated tram station (very similar in design to a railway station) at Milsons Point. From my understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the great Dr JJC Bradfield had intended for these tram tracks (Wynyard to North Sydney) to eventually be converted to heavy rail, as part of his proposal for a railway to Sydney's Northern Beaches.

@aussiejohn5835

Жыл бұрын

You are correct, but the station was built for trains to service the northern beaches and was to be called the north shore line. The station was converted to a tram station when it was decided not to proceed with the train line. The north shore line of today, carries the name, yet goes nowhere near the shore.

@doubledee9675

Жыл бұрын

@@aussiejohn5835 Can I say "goes nowhere near the shore after leaving Wollstonecraft station". That's only a couple of hundred or so yards from a Harbour inlet.

@aussiejohn5835

Жыл бұрын

@DoubleDee That is correct. I was referring to the "sea shore." I think I must stand corrected as I have just been told that the line was originally meant to be called the Northern Beaches line.

@doubledee9675

Жыл бұрын

@@aussiejohn5835 Right. Northern Beaches line would have been more appropriate as the line from North Sydney to Hornsby had always been called the North Shore line. The area from Roseville to Hornsby had been called the North Shore for many years - despite the minimal connection with the northern shores of the Harbour. Warning - Trivia Alert! The eastern edge of the area was the shore of Middle Harbour from Roseville north. Middle Harbour Creek has its spring very near Mona Vale Rd at the Wildflower Garden. The western edge followed the eastern bank of Lane Cove River for much of its distance. That River crosses under the Comenarra Parkway between Thornleigh and Fox Valley and shortly after that splits into several small streams. One of those starts at a spring a few hundred metres from where I'm sitting. Lots of trivia with some slight connection to the thread!

@aussiejohn5835

Жыл бұрын

@@doubledee9675 Thank you so much for the trivia, which makes much more sense than what I was told years ago by a Railway employee.

I used to explore the tunnels at North Sydney train station in the late 70's. Had a friend that was a ticket collector then. Not sure if you can still access it. Follow the train track heading towards Hornsby. About 100 m along you will find a 2nd tunnel which veers off to the left. this will continue for about 2kms till it stops at a large cavern and was never completed. Good luck and let me know how you go.

Milsons Point tram station was very similar to the train station. The only difference was where they checked the tickets on arrival. They also had a tram stop just at the end of the tunnel upon entering out on to the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Nice work. I tried to have a shuftie around in there one time to see this but a security guard told me to get out! Would love to follow the tunnels as far as they go.

I acutally did some welding for the fire sprinkler system late last year to your right around the 1:40 mark.. I think it was around the J4 or J3 column.

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

Ooh cool! I heard the hotel the carpark served has been demolished? I wonder what the carpark is being used as now. Was it used while you were working on the fire sprinkler system? :) Cheers :)

@Godzilla32

Жыл бұрын

@@AbandonedOZ I think that carpark was on the otherside of where I was working? I believe I actually went in to that carpark first by accident and struggled to find security to let me out the gate haha.

You can see the remains of the tram line to the South East of North Sydney station parallel to the rail line

The Milsons point tram stop was where the old toll plaza was on the Cahill express way.

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

I like how you can still see where the road widens too

@doubledee9675

Жыл бұрын

That's certainly my recollection

You did not sound nervous at all I have used that parking garage years ago and I remember thinking it was creepy lol

I caught the train at Wynyard for years and I never noticed there was no platform 1 and 2.

I watched on Binge the doco about London old tube lines. Pretty interesting. Some areas were used during both the world war eras

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

Oooh what was it called? :)

@babesmate

Жыл бұрын

@@AbandonedOZ "Secrets of the London Underground"

@julianfoster3443

Жыл бұрын

Check out London Transport Museum’s “Hidden London Hangouts” on KZread. They’re in a break right now but have been doing weekly shows since early Covid lockdowns. Really interesting stuff. Some of the presenters are involved in the TV show as well.

Someone told me that they unearthed part of old Wynyard station during the building of Metro but I don't seem to be able to find any footage of that discovery.

they opening this up for vivid this year

These tunnels are currently being used again for Dark Spectrum

Tried to access this a year or so ago and the laneway was blocked off with all the construction going on

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

I just read in one of the comments on this video that Menzies has been demolished, glad i got this footage

Nice. Does the carcpark/ tunnels still exist?

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

It has been closed off for some time. I have heard that the hotel the carpark was part of has been demolished. I’ll have to look into whether the carpark is still there.

@redimade

Жыл бұрын

@@AbandonedOZ thanks for that, was very curious, cheers

I saw a sign for ‘Upper Tunnel’ I guess there’s another tunnel? Maybe #1 below ?

@julianfoster3443

Жыл бұрын

They put a mezzanine level in to make room for more car parking (cars not being as tall as trains!) Which is why the whole place was pretty claustrophobic as I remember. At least the parking spaces in the tunnels themselves - the old platform area was larger of course.

Do you know if the tunnels are still accessible? As far as I know the Menzies hotel was demolished for the new development, and I have looked for the carpark and it isn’t there anymore due to the development.

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

They aren’t accessible. Also Menzies was demolished? Yikes i didn’t even know that :(

@Anon-fv9ee

Жыл бұрын

Pedestrian access/entrance was just above the unpaid concourse at Wynyard (up the escalators where Coles is) but this was closed off for the redevelopment. The carpark entrance is via Wynyard Lane and exits at Cumberland St (near Essex) - possibly still accessible. The northern section of tunnels from the bridge portal (fmr rifle range) can be seen but is closed off - BridgeClimb has control of this. There is possibly one other secret entrance (I know because I have a diagram!) :)

@bobbidigital6365

Жыл бұрын

Carpark is still very much accessible today, there are only a couple ways in that I know of now as the third has been counted off due to a couple of inexperienced so called explorers (toys)

@waitawhileexplorer3904

Жыл бұрын

Try to access the tunnel at North Sydney train Station. It veers off the main Hornsby track to the left about 100 m along the current tunnel.

Hey Phil, are you a train guard by any chance?

duuno if you know or not - but the carpark section where the roof is all tin sealled.... riddled with asbestos

Here is a old doco, talking about all the underground tunnels where they show where it comes out. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKJolbJ7mse7eJM.htmlm59s

@liamthompson9342

Жыл бұрын

V interesting show. They claim the old power tunnel could be pumped out!

Ahh my last comment I jumped the gun lol, I thought you got into the areas that were not opened to the public lol

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

This is no longer open either lol Well, not open to people who aren’t staying or working at Menzies. I want to get into the tunnels at St James :)

@shartslaw322

Жыл бұрын

@@AbandonedOZ yeah those tunnels are harder, but if you have contacts inside they might be able to help you get in touch with the right people 😉

So what's with all the cars parked?

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

It was part of a car park at the time of filming this

Wow...who knew...used Wynyard station for many years...and never even noticed there was no 1 & 2...😂😂😂😂😂😂

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

About 9 years ago i was filming something to do with the City Circle and upon doing some research (like what platform goes where etc) i noticed that Wynyard only had Platforms 3-6 so of course i did a little more digging about 1 & 2 :) lol

Sorry, you say that Platforms 1 and 2 "serviced the North Shore line". I'd not agree with that. The trams used service the northern harbourside suburbs and the lower north shore beyond them, but not the North Shore line. There was a line that reached Chatswood, but once leaving North Sydney, had no further contact with the line until Chatswood. There was another line that left North Sydney station and reached St Leonards, my memory telling me that it largely followed Pacific Highway. It then went to Lane Cove.

@doubledee9675

Жыл бұрын

My memories are much those which Aussie John sets out, although, alas, I did not make the last day of service.

@gdawwg1125

Жыл бұрын

They were originally for the northern beaches line thar wes never built

@doubledee9675

Жыл бұрын

@@gdawwg1125 It's not surprising it remains unconstructed (is there such a word?) until today. No-one ever came out with any sensible plans for the crossing of Middle Harbour.

@worrywart1311

Жыл бұрын

@@doubledee9675 And still haven't!

@doubledee9675

Жыл бұрын

@@worrywart1311 Probably because there is none - the grades down to Middle Harbour are just too steep. My memory (not from life!) is that somehow or other a tram did reach The Spit from Manly, but did not ascend the Mosman side. I could well be wrong on that.

what about platforms 6,7,8 and 9?

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

Platforms 3-6 are in use. There are no platforms above 6

@Aquarium-Downunder

Жыл бұрын

@@AbandonedOZ 7 -9 were never opened or finished and are blow 3-6. every station in the city circle excluding circular quay There are eight tracks through Central electric station, and after leaving the station they converge into six tracks which continue into the city 7-9 were walled off in 1925. Sydney is full of unfinished railway stations, cars took the need for them away

How did u access it

@bobbidigital6365

Жыл бұрын

Stay Out

@aaronw0813

Жыл бұрын

It is old footage from 8 years ago, not accessible anymore as the Menzies hotel it was for has been demolishjed for a new development.

Do the platform 26-27 at Central

@AbandonedOZ

Жыл бұрын

Abandoned Oz: Sydney Central’s Ghost Platforms 26 & 27 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kX6Wqa1wctqfirw.html

One of those tunnels is/was used for a police shooting range further up under the bridge. I heard gunshots in there in 2015

No. Not wondered as anyone older than 30 knows this….

Cant work out why with the small population back then....why the need for trams plus trains plus buses plus cars.....oh and the ferries.....just to go nth syd....im lost !

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

Жыл бұрын

Why? Because unlike today in 2023, cars in the 1940s and 1950s, were for the most part, only for the more affluent. Moreover, a far greater proportion of Sydney’s population lived close to the city. The modern urban sprawl to the west just did not exist 80 years ago. So, trains, trams and ferries were instrumental in getting around Sydney 80 years ago. As it is the case today.

@annehat4833

Жыл бұрын

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b explains nothing...but thanks for taking the time to answer

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

Жыл бұрын

@@annehat4833 OK. Ferries were essential for quick access to the city for those living close to the shore. The number of 1940s ferry wharves servicing Sydney Harbour was truly mind boggling. Ferries were far more important for these harbourside residents travelling to the city back in the 1940s. As for trams, they were for those who lived further into the Lower North Shore. Buses have long replaced these abandoned tram lines. As for trains, well the need for trains is obvious. Only trains can transport a large number of people, over long distances, in the same scheduled service, in the same vehicle, in an efficient manner.

@DeepThought9999

Жыл бұрын

It’s called “forward planning”. Dr Bradfield was rather good at that. The train lines were intended to split at North Sydney so that one arm went up the North Shore Line to Hornsby, as it does now, while the other was intended for a line to the Northern Beaches but nothing of that line was ever built apart from short “stub” tunnels still visible at North Sydney station. Similarly, the tram lines went far beyond North Sydney to service the Lower North Shore suburbs such as: to Lane Cove via Crows Nest and St Leonards; to Chatswood via Crows Nest and Willoughby; to Northbridge via Cammeray; to various North Shore ferry wharves via Neutral Bay Junction and Cremorne Junction; to Balmoral Beach and Taronga Zoo via Neutral Bay Junction, Cremorne Junction, Spit Junction and Mosman Junction; to Narrabeen via Neutral Bay Junction, Cremorne Junction, Spit Junction, Spit Bridge, Brookvale, Dee Why and Collaroy Beach, with an offshoot along the way going to Manly. All of these are now very well patronised (I.e. crowded) bus routes, crying out to be serviced by forms of public transport capable of carrying more peak passengers than presently are able to be carried by bus. Trams, light rail, metro anyone? All of that network of train and tram lines served very well a quite large population even in those days, a population that in many cases did not have access to motor cars for daily transport to and from work in the Sydney CBD.

@annehat4833

Жыл бұрын

@@DeepThought9999 that is not where i was going with my statement as im sure your well aware.....brief inner city his story....early 1900s sydney hit with bubonic plague.....over 5000 homes had to be demolished around harbour foreshore.....so my guess a lowering of population....then ww1....then spanish flu (more lost population)....then depression.....so we apparently rebuild a bridge....dig a tunnel system under the city....brick them....lay rail tracks....build the stations.....all to coincide with the opening of the bridge.....where did ppl come from to do the work....where are contruction photos.......all this being done while building homes faactories schools hopitals shops roads.....so in my tiny little mind im thinking...yesterdays lies are todays his story.....todays lies are tomorrows his story.....and as for phds....means nought to me....phds are for those with a retentive memory....probably the cause of most of our problems.....but thanks for taking the time to answer me

Not much of a tool or I'll tell you that

The whole of the network should never have been closed down by the idiot state government of the day.🤡👹💩🚊🚉

Wonder how close to the harbour bridge those tunnels lead to.