A Where's Waldo of Wrong Wiring
This video discusses a bunch of home wiring failures I discovered when I did the demolition for my dining room project. I discovered a bunch of unenclosed splices, hidden junction boxes, and even some knob and tube wiring that was cut off and left LIVE in my ceiling. I've done my best to cite all the electrical codes that were broken by this botched wiring done by a previous owner. Can you spot more violations?
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Love that you cite the codes.
@TheRenaissanceCaveman
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm not an electrician and can't say I know them well or anything, but I've taken some classes and, when I have a question about whether I'm doing something up to par, I grabbed a copy of the NEC in PDF format.
Confession time. I spliced wires together without junction boxes and stuck them behind walls for 30+ years. 👀 Today I turn over a new leaf. Great video.
@chrisE815
3 жыл бұрын
I hope you aren't serious
@duckingcensorship1037
2 жыл бұрын
*IT WAS YOU*
@frankpaya690
2 жыл бұрын
Knob and tube wiring is splices without being in junction boxes.
Last house I lived in - 1848 Farmhouse in New England - had 200 AMPS on the interior wall sockets! A competent electrician installed a 200 amp panel and external panel onto the house around 2004. That's ALL he did. The RENTERS took it from there - but clearly got impatient. In an adjacent wall - within a few inches of the new circuit panel - was a pair of very rusty fuse boxes. When I moved in, there were some wacky things with the electricity, but it largely worked. I concentrated primarily on WATER issues - installing an on-demand hot water heater. While doing that, I had to install black pipe to route the propane to the stove, dryer, and hot water heater. While installing it, I had to cut an ancient cloth cable. Even though I was 100% certain that it was not powered - I ensured I had one hand in my pocket - and promptly got a giant spark which took a chunk out of my lineman pliers. I immediately went to the power corner and carefully inspected the fuse panel and circuit-breaker panel. I almost missed the #6 green wires protruding out of the back of BOTH. The doofus had connected the BACK plate of the circuit breakers to the back of the fuse panel - thereby cleverly bypassing BOTH. I immediately broke-out into a sweat. I turned-off power to the house outside, then cut the cloth wire coming out of the top of the fuse panel ensuring it had a 6 inch gap. After that, I found the house was missing about half its lights. It took quite a while, part time, to redo that to get lights where they were needed. Unfortunately, that house was a nightmare to keep above ground, and we left ( for an even older 1770 farmhouse *sigh* ). The 1848 house was subsequently razed by its new owners who wanted to sell the land sans house. Good riddance.
Great vid and it is almost a mirror image of my house. Built in the late 1800's. I had knob and tube in the attic BURRIED in blown in insulation. I have the extra joy of having NO studded walls. I believe they called it single room construction where instead of studs the walls are 1x12 planks. I have to build walls inside of the existing walls. Good times. Anyway, please post more videos
Great video! Love how you pin point violation codes! Thanks 👍🏼
I have a junction box within a wall in a room I'm renovating. I think I'm going to put it in a box with a cover on it so it's totally accessible.
Completely remodeling a room in my 1955 house.. the wiring was updated a bit over the last 30 years and its an absolute fiasco of a fire hazard. Can't wait to see what horros i find when i get into the attic. So far I have learned all of the plugs in this room must be connected at a junction box behind the drywall - which hasn't come down yet - and that even though the power goes off to the lights and those outlets when i flip the breaker... at least one plug was/is still hot and that was an experience to discover. And everyone so far has told me it's a waste to get everything re-wired..
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Was creating a splice in some romex to add a socket for my wall mounted TV and learned about the requirement for it to be accessible from you, thanks!
@Ch4osWe4veR
5 жыл бұрын
Same here, I was about to extend a circuit from an outdated baseboard heater I plan to remove to a different style heater on another location on the wall and would have just spackled over the loose splice. Now knowing what the NEC and safety concerns have to say about it, I will install a box in the wall to house the splice and cover it with the proper plate instead of drywall or spackle.
@jessenaill3396
4 жыл бұрын
Call an electrician. Don't be stupid.
@wasian4
3 жыл бұрын
@@soundspark and safety ya
Great video, I appreciate the info. Thank you.
thanks for pointing that out. My HVAC installers did the unenclosed splices in the attic space which I'm hiring an electrician to put in a junction box
A house I'm re-doing they missed the joist bay coming up from the basement installing new wiring in the 1999 kitchen remodel. So they ran the wires across the floor in a channel in the plywood and then just installed 1/4" lauan and sheet vinyl over top. Three 12/2 wires from both phases, 18"s out into the room.
I also have an older home (circa 1910) that had many added circuits, but at least all of the splices were in boxes and accessible. The sketchy part was noticing some of the fuses (60 amp service) were 30 amp on smaller wire than code called for. That's when I decided to revamp the entire service from scratch. As I pulled the 60 amp panel down I saw the outline of the original 30 amp service on the wall!
Central PA! Same here... The rodent problem part too 😪 awesome video!
Examples like this make me believe that we should return to the original practice of surface mounting the wires. A modern approach could utilize square conduit that is recessed and flush with the drywall.
Love the vid and def love the tunes🤘
very nice video ,thanks.
I found something like the first example today when remodeling my basement. Makes sense since the 3 outlets after it are not flush with the wall either.
Hi. What are my options for extending a 15 amp greenfield able? The cable is cut one foot away from junction box and will not reach the junction box.
I've had a couple of old houses. I still have one that I rent out. Last week, I found three conductor SO cord in the wall. What's worse, it was ungrounded 220 to a dryer, using the green lead as a hot leg!
@chrisE815
3 жыл бұрын
Handy man special
@frankpaya690
2 жыл бұрын
That's permissible, the wire is the wire, it doesn't know where it's supposed to go by Design, but you're supposed to tape it, if you're going to alter the wires color function that way- with tape designating by color how you've altered it, in that case black or red identifying it as now hot .
I’m not an electrician and even my jaw drops when I see this stuff. These errors are from extreme lack of common sense (and probably laziness too).
I would think that the "hot" wire that was just left hanging would not be a fire issue. Since it is not attached to anything, there is no way to pull current through it, to make it hot. A standard code approved outlet probably has a better chance of starting a fire because someone can put a 20 amp appliance on a 15 amp circuit, and that happens a lot, but that is what circuit breakers are for, to stop fires before they start. A hot wire that is not terminated in a junction box might be a shock hazard, but that is what GFCI circuit breaker's are for.
I bought a house that was triplexed without a permit and the wiring didn't have junction boxes on them.. about 20 ..lol
Music didn't bother me, thanks for a great video.
seen way to many times over the years on jobs where the old knob and tube wiring got covered up by insulation. bad news.
A friend called me - the electrical system in his brand new home - most did not work.I came to a point and told him, I think splices were made in the wall - he jerked off a sheet of panel - sure enough a fist size splice of wires were there.I ask who wired this for you , his answer the guys that built the house. In your home please use qualified electricians.
Im an electrician. My motto is, remove the old, replace with new
@TheRenaissanceCaveman
7 жыл бұрын
I'm just a homeowner that doesn't want to own a firetrap, and I tend to agree :)
@TrueNovice
7 жыл бұрын
And bill by the hour. Gouge them as much as possible
@portaadonai
7 жыл бұрын
Where were you when I was broke, making $12 an hour as an apprentice, going to school at night for two years, spending $30-$50 in tools each month, sweating in attics, crawling with spiders under houses, getting shocked and blowing up my tools, cutting my hands, dealing with blisters, studying the 400+ page code book, learning how to be a good electrician? I didnt hear anyone complaining about me then? Its easy to criticize something you havent done yourself or understand. Tell me your occupation and I could make unfair assumptions, and uneducated judgments about you as well.
@TheRenaissanceCaveman
7 жыл бұрын
I worked as an IT guy at a technical school for about a decade. I came in thinking I was hot stuff because I was the "computer guy" and everyone thinks the "computer guy" is a genius. That place humbled me. Fast. Every time my car broke down and every time I had a question when I was remodeling there was somebody there that was an expert and could help me out. As far as I'm concerned skilled tradesmen like good electricians are worth every penny they charge. Of course there are people in every trade willing to "gouge" and give up their integrity to make a quick buck, but somebody whose honest and charges more for a higher quality job is somebody I respect and will hire before the hack whose willing to do the kind of work I found in this video in order to low-bid a project.
@portaadonai
7 жыл бұрын
I was talking to TrueNovice, but yes I understand what your saying
The Music....??? Necessary?
@sharkx666
3 жыл бұрын
It sure is, brother.
@duckingcensorship1037
2 жыл бұрын
Yes....!!!
That knob n tooth is scary dangerous
@duckingcensorship1037
2 жыл бұрын
*tube
I've found several open splices in my house.. What's hilarious is that i know the guy before me did it and he left TONS of electrical materials behind, when he died. I took the house with everything in it. The guy before HIM was an electrician and died and left a ton of electrical stuff in the house. He had junction boxes.. believe me, he did. Lol. WHY????!!! The 60's light/exhaust fan in the bathroom had the wires attached to it by them just being twisted together and wrapped with DUCT TAPE. Good grief
Saw a lot of work like this in my 50 years as a sparky. Got to the point that I refused to attempt a repair when building had numerous violations.due to.liability issues. Had a good customer pull a permit for a friend of his that wired up his own sandwich shop. Told him no way but looked at it. Every box had issues. 6 months later place burnt down. I told my customer that I have an agreement with doctors. I do not work on abortions & they do not do any electrical work.
That music put me off watching this video 🥴
please, shut that music.
I'm gonna rewire my 1950's home in a few months, I'm sure I'm in for a treat and will find things like this all over. Crawling around in the attic I already see similar issues. I'm gonna rewire everything new and use as few junction boxes as possible. Half the house is wired to one 15A breaker......with who knows how many junction boxes....lmao. Luckily its a small house and the attic has access to everything, . Some of the cross wiring like in your first few photos are afterthoughts by people with no common sense, you dont have to be an electrician to see where a moron cut corners so they can hurry up and finish or didn't want to spend $10 more dollars on wire. That's the kind of thing I hate, why even attempt it if its gonna be half assed. Common sense would tell you when something is wrong, but some people just don't have common sense lol.
@michaelh7527
Жыл бұрын
My 1960 home was so jimmy rigged and confusing, I decided to rip everything out and redo it all. With the help of my friend, lot of beers/steaks 😂. We pulled everything out and ran all new wires, breaker box, and outlets.... In exchange for his help, I am helping him rebuild his Chevy 350 engine 😁
@socksonfeet8125
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelh7527 very nice, I have friends who are electricians but not lucky enough to have them help, cause they dont work for free lol. At the very least I can send them photos and they can tell me if something is wrong or right and up to code or not.
Hey is that your band from Jr High?
oh no live unterminated cable ends are defiantly not code compliant. I've seen the code just can't recall which one.
3:22 If you touch it in any way you must remove it.
@RSchannel777
6 жыл бұрын
Unless you don't want to... lol.
@williamwinder5011
6 жыл бұрын
Hay it's me
@wanderingwade8877
5 жыл бұрын
No touchies or you must removies! I hope no one calls 'LAVA FLOOR!" because then no work will get done.
Welcome to my life as a residential electrician smh
I prefer to work with music everyday as an electrician. I do my best thinking with music on. 👍 fuck the haters.
@michaelkeyes3856
2 жыл бұрын
Damn straight
What did you say only heard music not sure what was going on
@sanibelover
5 жыл бұрын
My
This is why you need codes, and professional training period, by license electricians.
and you don't show how to fix it?
@chrisE815
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a tear out and new circuit
Buzzzt!
If it ain't broke don't fix it. I can see and understand why this all needs updating however, most knob and tube wiring is fine as long as it isn't messed with. It's still in new condition as long as it hasn't been exposed to water, excessive heat etc.
Great info have to a agree music always annoying.
I hope that wasent the work of a electrician
What a mess...would never buy a house that didn't have conduit.
@andrewalexander9492
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you are, but conduit is only used in residential construction in a few places in the US. In the rest of the US, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a house whcih had been wired using conduit.
get rid of the "music" it should be a code violation
@budclark9034
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
Turn the stupid music off next time
Called a rats nast
Why did you buy such an ancient house lol rather how for that matter?!
So you are reading a script and know and tube is code
Music in background ruined your video.
The music is not very nice.
you should've bought a new house, you have to expect all kind of building problems in an old castle...
@raymondmcgee4491
6 жыл бұрын
pepino735 Unfortunately, new construction is not immune to stupid either😕
@wizard3z868
5 жыл бұрын
so true i started to work in trade after h.s. i told my wife if we ever build new the contractors will hate us we will be there every day with prints and measuring tape to make sure its done correct before its closed up ive seen so much bs its not funny trash in place of insulation burnt thru studs with copper pipes missing boards or 8inch joist instead of 10 inch so the blder cld make a few bucks. most developers build there first few houses to code than inspectors just dont care and sign off after each other unit. you buy the last ones built you going to cry.
@davidayre3384
5 жыл бұрын
Some people like old houses