I do have some more traditional scripted content coming out soon, just have been a bit busy lately.

@CatWithAOpinion

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the info!

@cqpp

Жыл бұрын

Please play the Doom Turtle next! The Maus and Doom Turtle are the most enjoyable vehicles ingame, you yourself seem to love them. That sweet sweet 5-12 hp/ton.

@olekzajac5948

Жыл бұрын

Since we're talking about the Maus, why not make a video about ideas how Snail could fix the "hard to balance" issue (that imo they have created themselves)? I have one such idea - to split the matchmaker in two: one for WW2 vehicles and one for post-war ones. Or rather those using post-war technologies such as two plain stabilizers, HEAT-FS, thermals or laser rangefinders. That's to avoid the whole Swedish and half of the French trees fighting T-55s, Leopardz and Pattons.

@BS-vm5bt

Жыл бұрын

What about the panther 2. That is a fun tank since only one with good reverse speed.

@m808bscorpionmbt3

Жыл бұрын

Whenever i play Britain and use the AVRE the maus has a tendency to not exist afterwards

My worst memory with maus is when they allowed players to research it for few days but made wrecks stay whole battle so there was horrendous amount of maus-es in matches to that point where maps like Poland became unplayable because of burning mauses blocking every street

@pancytryna9378

Жыл бұрын

GERMAN ENGINEERING IS THE WORLDS FINEST

@aserkill6096

Жыл бұрын

That's hilarious, I would have loved to see it

@commanderstorm8874

Жыл бұрын

The wunderwafen came through on that day

@TheLadderman

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what you're talking about, that was tons of fun. Especially when nobody can get on the points fast enough because everyone is so slow

@homosapien4229

Жыл бұрын

Mice, not mauses

Every time I run into this thing in my T-10A (trying to grind out Russian ground forces for fun) and maybe it’s just me but I can’t pen them and they can’t pen me from the front so it’s honestly just becomes “who’s teammates can help them first”

@gopnik8855

Жыл бұрын

you can pen him with D round if you hug his side

@F-18Super

Жыл бұрын

@@gopnik8855 thx

@hazegrayunderway8695

Жыл бұрын

Have you tried shooting the turret cheeks?

@rav3727

Жыл бұрын

@@hazegrayunderway8695 You need 230mm of flat pen to pen the turret cheeks, the 100mm, the 122mm can't, unless it's the t10m's 122

@lolsadboi1238

Жыл бұрын

You can ammo rack the back of the Maus' turret if it's facing you and you're relatively close since it's flat, or you can shoot low in its hulls sides since it can pen them but it's hit or miss since it can get eaten by fuel tanks often

"the maus cant be balanced" *moves Leopard 1 to 7.3*

@_Zekken

Жыл бұрын

Because germany obviously suffers /s

@bro3217

Жыл бұрын

how is that relevant and how does that even matter? The leopard would perform the same either way

@AllMightyKingBowser

Жыл бұрын

@@bro3217 it just shows gaijins incompetence and that they dont know their own game

@menotjaminie7975

Жыл бұрын

@@AllMightyKingBowser no it shows their love towards we the german mains

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

@@bro3217 well, switch leopard and Maus br lol 400mm heat in 7.7, 128mm APCBC in 7.3

I used to be so afraid of meeting the Maus way back in the day, after all the talk of how stronk it was with its armour - nowadays I see a Maus and say “Oh…it’s a Maus.” I then proceed to lob a heat shell towards it.

@TheMeanLemon

Жыл бұрын

As you should

@bubla2659

Жыл бұрын

It’s like seeing a rare animal, your like “oh that’s cool” and go on with your day

@arandomcommenter412

Жыл бұрын

@@bubla2659 yeah but he’s murdering those rare animals, he’s a murderer, a psycho, a complete lunatic.

@c.n.i7105

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomcommenter412 A virtual animal. Seems ok to me

@bubla2659

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomcommenter412 I mean the Maus is technically endangered

Spook: "likes light tanks" Everyone: "Suffer!"

@haroldotrotter9148

Жыл бұрын

i hate light tanks they are so annoying. Espicially the lekpz. m24 chaffees are fine tho.

@Pantsinabucket

Жыл бұрын

@@haroldotrotter9148 light tanks are awesome. Play a few games in a bmp and you’ll have a great time, especially if the enemy team has a lot of leopard players. Although the BMP2M can be a bullshit enemy sometimes, I’ve had a 3BM15 APFSDS bounce off the front plate of that thing.

@thewalrus511

Жыл бұрын

“Just play the undertiered vehicles in the most overpowered tree and you’ll have a great time” - translation.

@Table925

Жыл бұрын

@@Pantsinabucket ive had 3bm42 bounce off a hstvl point blank

@fenfrostpaws2000

Жыл бұрын

@@haroldotrotter9148 the lekpz is my favorite bulldog. That heat shell is nice to have

I think my greatest achievement in this game is getting the first strike medal in this thing.

@torimaritime6955

Жыл бұрын

Did your team fall asleep or something??

@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537

Жыл бұрын

Nothing beats Raider medal with a T95 on Lakeville in other tank game when -CAS- Artillery was fuck ass turbo busted instead of just plain busted.

I legitimately can't stand playing the Maus. It's frustrating, I feel like I'm in a store stuck behind someone walking slowly and I can't get past. However, despite all the constant uptiers, it's still one of my best stat vehicles. It's really sad that it's been taken out of the game since a lot of folks are desperate to play this iconic meme tank. Just add it back, honestly.

@OddBawZ

Жыл бұрын

Also, there are WAY worse vehicles in the game that still exist and people just chose not to play them much. Why has the Maus gotta be different?

@Robomann

Жыл бұрын

@@OddBawZ because germany suffers ;)

@SergeyTaboritski

Жыл бұрын

As a blind german main i agree and the tiger should be moved to B.R 1.0

@MisterMainiac

Жыл бұрын

Can we have the Maus back, and also get the TOG II for the memes?

@spacialsonic7779

Жыл бұрын

Waiting the France Get The Fcm 2C 155

The armour still works when you angle it, played it today and got a positive k/d but it was just so painfully boring because of the speed. Still could drive into the middle of a map and tank loads of hits while waiting for my teammates to kill the enemies. Killed some amx13 with the 75 HEAT at one point :P. Just dont spawn it unless the spawnpoint cost is 140/160 meaning a downtier.

@kleebl00d84

Жыл бұрын

Argh, k/d ratios are always positive! You can't kill -1 tanks, neither can you die -1 times. They can be greater or smaller than 1, but negative isn't a thing.

@ket451

Жыл бұрын

@@kleebl00d84 I imagine if you don't kill anything and die your k/d goes negative

@motmot8879

Жыл бұрын

@@kleebl00d84 under 1.0 is a negative KD, for example 0.9 would mean you've killed nine people but died ten times, that's what a negative KD is

@Vulcan-is8tw

Жыл бұрын

@@kleebl00d84 its just a term used to tell when people have more or equal kills/deaths in a vehicle, calm down

@smippycis6285

Жыл бұрын

@@kleebl00d84 hahaha so technically true!

The thought of trying to pen a maus with the American 76 sent a shiver down my spine.

@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537

Жыл бұрын

The nerfs really killed them. Can't even face pen a Tiger II with your HVAP anymore.

It's bad till it's 15 minutes into the round, your on your second to last spawn, teams are exhausted And it sets up shop on the cap point

@koryliu

Жыл бұрын

Yeah unless half the enemy team takes CAS as their second spawn and just nuke you into oblivion

@Doc_Paradox

Жыл бұрын

Until it gets immediately bombed and they rage quit because they spent the last 15mins just driving to the cap.

@bigoof1105

Жыл бұрын

The game would be almost over before your 3rd spawn as Maus. You'd get wacked by CAS on the way to the point or ambushed by bmps and ptl02s hiding in the bushes.

I actually have WAAAAY too much fun playing the Maus. Yeah, it's slow and will take you forever to get to the front, but a well-played Maus will either decimate the enemy team, or be used as a shell sponge and aggro the entire enemy team allowing your team to clear them out. And if you get frustrated because you have to repair all day, just use the HEAT shell to take out tracks and cannon barrels from the enemy and force them to sit forever and repair

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, I'll keep that in mind for the games I'm not destroyed by helis, bombs or heat snipers

@baizen1

Жыл бұрын

@@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS Unfortunately that happens to every tank in the game. Helicopters were a huge mistake, being killed by CAS is just the most frustrating thing in the game and HEAT kills everyone, but the Maus due to the huge spacing of the crew requires at LEAST 3 pens by heat, darts or apds to die. I've also noticed something interesting with the Maus: it feels like you only die to CAS because you actually do, everything else takes ages to kill you so its usually planes and helis who either get the final shot or some of the only ones who get to kill you instantly

@_water4652

Жыл бұрын

Mutual suffering!

I do think 7.3 is a reasonable place for it, the problem with it's current BR is that it constantly faces 8.7 MBTs that can pen it at almost any angle and which it has a hard time frontally penetrating. Most tanks in the 7.3 range can either pen it frontally or from the side. Putting it at a BR where it's armor is actually a big advantage wouldn't be a big deal because the armor is the only thing the Maus has going for it. It's gun is okay, but it has an abysmal reload and moves like an obese brick.

@Dragono_

Жыл бұрын

“It’s unfair that some tanks can pen the Maus anywhere in an uptier, so it should be moved down to a BR where it’s unkillable for 90% of vehicles and can pen literally anything anywhere”

@omegaraptor1057

4 ай бұрын

​@@Dragono_ shooting main cannon goes hard af. Also when i die to maus i aint even mad, maus is awesome.

@Better_Bread

12 күн бұрын

Not the 76 jumbo vs maus

"maus to 6.7" is legitimately the most wehraboo thing i've ever heard

@cqpp

Жыл бұрын

And only about 1 out every 100 people who ask for it to be downtiered ever say that. Spookstin is blowing the proportions of hiw many people say such things and exaggerate it a lot despite only a minority having such views and the majority just wanting it to be moved to 7.3.

@TheJimyyy

Жыл бұрын

maus in 7,3 will be good and im a american main player

@KenMochii

Жыл бұрын

It's literally my first time hearing someone says the Maus needs to be 6.7.

@Gary_The_Metro

Жыл бұрын

@@cqpp it shouldn't be 7.3 either. It should stay at 7.7

@thathalfcanadian5543

Жыл бұрын

@@Gary_The_Metro You could say that 7.3 is a good fit, there are plenty of tanks armed with heat, and many of the Maus’ rival heavy tanks full caliber rounds are capable of penetrating it on the side, or the turret cheeks. Also there’s always the fact that 6/10 deaths in the Maus for me are to aircraft ordinance. But I do think it’s perfectly capable at 7.7 and 7.3 is a little excessive

I member my meathead slugfests against the Maus in my IS-4M when we were the only top dogs. Good times. Then the M103 nation attacked and the age of HEAT-FS had begun.

I will say, the M4A3 can indeed pen a maus. On a very very small part on the top that gives access to starting a fire. This requires 2 m4a3s and a very specific ledge that lets you go above the maus

Remember Spook, don't conflate your skill with that of the playerbase. You have ten thousand hours and know the tactics and anatomy of every tank, while most players are casual and don't have the same skill level. Personally I think the way Gaijin handled the Maus is fine. It come around every year as a super easy and forgiving "event". Anyone who wants a Maus can realistically get one and the allure of the event and its rarity brings people into the game.

@ioan-alexandrutrofin4524

Жыл бұрын

it's easy to get at least k/d of 2 with maus just as a casual player

@nahuelleandroarroyo

Жыл бұрын

They could have left it in the tech tree without it blocking another tank (like a squad vehicle) there are a lot of things that are not balanced, the T28/T95 comes to mind, or the BMP4 or the premium KA, heavy bombers have awful repair SL, so on. Gaijyn could not explain to the average germany mains thta skill is a thing

@Korean_Crayon

Жыл бұрын

@@nahuelleandroarroyo how is the bmd 4 unbalanced? It's less armored than the bmp3. Sure it has a 4sex reload for 4 atgms then HE. But other than that, it's a light tank.

@Gary_The_Metro

Жыл бұрын

@@nahuelleandroarroyo lmfao what how are the t95 and t28 unbalanced. What are you smoking?

@Gary_The_Metro

Жыл бұрын

@@Korean_Crayon arguing armour bad on a lighttank is dumb. It's a light tank, if you're taking many hits you're already doing it wrong.

I feel that these tanks should just be put outside of the "tech tree" but still be able to be researched

@SomeKidsAtHomes

Жыл бұрын

They literally are right now, i havent yet finished researcjing the maus or 105 tiger

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

@@SomeKidsAtHomes he means PERMANENTLY, u need to have rank 5 and put 1 RP into the Maus in November when it comes to get it forever

@ragingassassin6659

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I remember when they announced they were removing it and all I thought was "why not just put to the side as a vehicle available at rank V or just folder it with the "new" M48. Just make it a side vehicle like the denomination of T-54s. They aren't necessary to get but you can if you want to. Then I remembered I was talking about the snail and that they'll probably use it as some sort of hidden tank available on occasion like the KV-2 with the 107mm

@_water4652

Жыл бұрын

I don’t have the Tiger 105 :0 looks cool tho

I don't think that the Sabot APHE was for the FlaK. They experimented with sabot HE for FlaK but they built sabot AP for all large calibers, with 105/75 APHE actually being introduced for the 105mm Light Field Howitzer. There was also going to be 150/88mm AP for the Heavy Howitzers but the 128/88 AP was probably meant for 128mm AT guns, since they realized that muzzle velocity is great for being able to hit targets. Shattering of the shell was probably only a real problem due to the weird German penetration criteria that requires intact shell to penetrate, only to be detonated by explosive filler, which only sounded good in theory, as APHE fuzes rarely worked and a broken shell penetrating the armor was lethal as it is.

@creatorchris712

Жыл бұрын

I am one of the people that tried for years in war thunders forum to get it into the game (theres a thread with 100+ pages about the maus were we sweated our asses off talking and promoting changes about the vehicle to gaijin) and there are real documents about it (the apheds) and it was intended to be fired at tanks.They didnt really care to produce it because the standard 128 shell was already big and strong enough to overkill anything the 128 would face

Its kinda sad that the new players cant experience Tiger 10,5 and Panther 2, damn those vehicles are so good, Maus is just a iconic tank, but the rest of the removed vehicles is very good, at least i like playing them much more than other stuff around 6.7, great lineup.

@maximilianmustermann1278

Жыл бұрын

Dont forget the coelian!

@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537

Жыл бұрын

Subtle reminder the Tiger 105 and Panther 2 L/71 should not even be in the game.

@mortache

Жыл бұрын

I have the Panther 2. Its good for armor but the night vision on top makes hiding difficult

@Phantom-xp2co

Жыл бұрын

@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 nor should be that stupid Russian battleship

@liebestaube5686

Жыл бұрын

@@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Why not? Because of its inaccurate portrayal? Then what will the snail do to fill up the large gaps in Rank III and IV tech tree?

Has Gaijin ever thought about a limited matchmaking system for vehicles like the Maus? They could limit its uptiering to 8.3 or 8.0 while it stays at 7.7. Of course, if you have other 7.7 vehicles in the same lineup you can still face 8.7. You would have to use 7.3 or lower vehicles for the rest of the lineup.

@02suraditpengsaeng41

Жыл бұрын

That system maybe cool to work with other Rank III german For Tiger players not longer to rant with cold war

@coty.ott0359

Жыл бұрын

@@02suraditpengsaeng41 boo hoo

* A tank so good it had to be removed to protect every other nation 😎

Easiest way to balance the maus in my opinion is to keep it at 7.7 but prevent it from being uptiered, meaning the maus will never face anything 8.0 and above. At 7.7 there are plenty of vehicles that can face it.

Go Breda 501 (I think it's 501), it's light, it is fast, its cannon has high pen and damage output, it's just great (shell with 520 g of TNT is better than 180 g, more pen is just not needed)

@xobismarckox

Жыл бұрын

I loved the Breda, grinded nearly everything on the next tier with it.

@no-legjohnny3691

Жыл бұрын

Eh, you realistically don't need more than 100 grams as it usually one-shots most enemies anyway, so the extra pen is nice for some extra insurance that you'll punch through the armor 99% of the time.

@heliogonzalezsanchez8227

Жыл бұрын

no, it's the contrary, more than 180g is not needed, because it is going to be a one-shot already, but more pen is always better

@bennosvab6294

Жыл бұрын

You don't need more than 100 grams of TNT if you successfully pen, indeed, but if war thunder is shiting you and you did not pen something you should have, you can now overpressure it with power of 520 grams of TNT. It's also fun, when I shoot little short on light vehicle and the explosion of the shell knocks it out. So... 520g

@teun911

Жыл бұрын

the 520g shell will one shot 95% of tanks you get a turret/hull pen on, even through the engine and has a much higher chance of an ammo rack (say downward fragmentation in a panther/T34 turret) than the 120g. The extra pen only makes a difference on range, which you should not be operating at generally. The breda is fast and agile, you will be shooting at sides and backs often, making the extra pen pointless, but the extra bang SO useful.

I’ve had very successful flanking maneuvers in the Maus. It’s always funny to see even light tanks completely oblivious to a 200ton super heavy tank on their flank.

The Maus is actually very effective. When you play as the roadblock distraction and use your survivability, you can certainly carry games. Additionally, it’s recently added round is more effective - particularly at range - than apfsds. 75mm is wonderful utility, and many thing at its BR can be penned by 100mm heat. It’s a great tank when played correctly

I love this thing, I nabbed it just before it was removed and hell gave it a talisman and it got me through a lot of that part of the tree. My only gripe is that it’s the only tank they add back for the birthday event. I never got the panther 2 and I want it so bad, same with the panther AA. But every year they add back the maus and it’s just an event a lot of us get nothing out of, especially if you got it in a previous year. As for the BR, I think 7.7 is fine. If it HAD to move maybe 7.3 and it would just go along with all the other vehicles in that German lineup (as if it wasn’t strong enough already) :/

I personally love the Maus and the Black Prince. These slow heavy tanks offer a unique style of gameplay, and one that I personally quite enjoy.

Ah yes, the mighty german engineering - design a vehicle so useless and unreliable that it becomes a joke

@idiom2805

Жыл бұрын

Don't mind me. Just replying to this so I can see all the butt-hurt armchair historians tell you how you're wrong, and how this tank could take over the world 'cause bigger always equals better. Just like the Yamato that is currently the world's biggest man-made reef.

@Ey_SmoKrac

Жыл бұрын

still big doe

@idiom2805

Жыл бұрын

@@Ey_SmoKrac just like your name!

@holfgangwuber7982

Жыл бұрын

You fool. Everyone knows german engineering is the world's finest.

@Casual2270

Жыл бұрын

@@idiom2805 lol then brace yourself because all the wehraboos are coming (RIP ur notifications)

The maus is unusable by the 10k+ repair cost and 220 sl for the good ammo, 110 sl for the ok one. It also only has a 140% sl multiplier, less then the tiger II(p). It is just too expensive.

@teun911

Жыл бұрын

140% SL multiplier because you get SL for tanking shots.

@goofygoober7750

Жыл бұрын

You only get money for the first hit. After that you no longer get anything

@brianng9765

Жыл бұрын

you would unironically get more money from tanking shells than killing enemies most of the time

im so glad you know so much about rounds and their characteristics

It can’t be balanced because of the state of the game. In a full uptier it can see T-62’s and M60A3’s, and in a full downtier it can see T-44’s and Super Pershing’s. The capability gap from 6.7-8.7 is astronomical.

@destroyerarmor2846

Жыл бұрын

T-92 can destroy Maus

I like the Maus personally. It's pretty solid and I enjoy the coaxial cannon.

All the people that say that the Maus is bad have some serious Skill issues, i have like a 4/1 kill ratio, i unlocked it the 5th November

My first interaction with a Maus was killing it with a bt-7. It was the player's first match and I bounced a shell into his engine and lit him on fire. It was hilarious but I feel bad for a man that got Gajin'ed before he unlocked fire extinguishers.

@elcousteau3441

Жыл бұрын

got killed like that when grinding for fpe may be it was you.

I think a good compromise for the maus and other similar super heavy tanks would be to disallow them from full uptiers or downtiers. I think with that the maus could reasonably be put at 7.3/7.0

* When germany has a good tank * Gaijin: DELETE IT RIGHT NOW

@indianfiddler

6 ай бұрын

Germany has way way way too many op tanks, and has the best vehicle in the game right now (pz IVg)

@connivingkhajiit

6 ай бұрын

@@indianfiddler no way you said pz 4 G is best vehicle in the game

@indianfiddler

6 ай бұрын

@@connivingkhajiit for its br it is by miles

@connivingkhajiit

6 ай бұрын

@@indianfiddler its certainly very good. But, normalized by BR, is it the best? surely not. A few i immediately think of that are better: Object 279, 2S38, IS6, KV-1E/B

@indianfiddler

6 ай бұрын

@connivingkhajiit the pz 4g is better than all u named as at 3.3 there is very little that can frontal pen it if u angle and the gun is amazing up to 5.0. Even if a full uptier the pz4g is better than almost any other 4.3 such. And on a downtier... its fighting things like starts and crusaders which the 4g can delete from about 2 kilometres away. The is6 has a slow reload and is slow, the 2s38 will die to absolutely anything if not spotted first and can struggle to frontally pen some things, the kv1e has an awful main gun and is slow. And the object 279 lacks speed, has an average gun and can be frontally penned by anything at its br. The pz 4 g has almost none of these problems.

I don't really play the MAUS but I just love having it. It's my favorite just because it's so absurdly huge. Gotta love German engineering.

The difficulty with the Maus is that it has really different playstyles depending on the br of the battle. If you get uptiered all the way to apfsds, you stay at the back and ocasionally get some kills, but If it's anything else, you rush forward and rule. People say the Maus gets penetrated by anything. Those people also dont even try to angle it. If you angle the turret correctly, there is almost no vehicles that dont have apfsds that could penetrate it and the hull doesnt even need to be angles. Then just wiggle to not get your gun taken out and have fun

Maus could be 7... The IS6 and IS3 is 7.0 and most tanks without heat suffer vs them.

@teun911

Жыл бұрын

The IS6 and IS3 never suffered a moment of their existence lol

Ive been working on spading mine recently I dont think its actually *that bad I mean, i hate it. I hate what its suposed to be. I hate what it is. The entire thing was a mistake. The worst the wunderwaffe has to offer. But quite honestly, it o v e r preforms in wt, relative to what it was.

@phial7616

Жыл бұрын

make it so the transmission slowly turns red over 5 minutes on driving for enhanced experience (joke.)

@oliverthecool8329

Жыл бұрын

@@phial7616 if that was the case for all tanks, if you tried to drive a Ferdinand/Elefant up a hill you would just catch on fire lol

@TheJimyyy

Жыл бұрын

maus was great in testing too : ) it was just too big and slow and heavy to be usefull . in real life , also too expensive

@phial7616

Жыл бұрын

@@oliverthecool8329 mozdok Hill C and you just start hearing "fire!! in the engine compartment" immedeatly as you crest the hill, leaving you exposed and vulnerable

@BlackoutGootraxian

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJimyyy superheavy tanks have a future, they just didnt go far enough in research

“Minimum 13 horsepower per ton” Ok, play the R3, but the T106 variant with the funny rocket thing

"armor is only there as a last resort" well funny about that when i play my Maus my armor is my main weapon but at the same time i have become very scary at angling it

play the centurion mk1 it is the first MBT after all, is armor is pretty much a panther and if u angle while u reload ur very well protected, APDS slaps even king tigers and the reload ain't too bad, though ammo rack is only 5 (only British vehicle with reverse gear)

@pukekissing

Жыл бұрын

The 5.3-6.0-7.3 uk lineup has to be one of my favorites. Shame the BR on the centurion forces you onto 7.0 now as opposed to 6.7 on full uptier if you decide to take it on the lineup

@snoopydog8831

Жыл бұрын

@@pukekissing 7.0 uptiers are nonexistant, and 6.7 is completly viable with your APDS, plus the centurion is so much better than the challenger or comet its worth the risk of a potential 7.0

Just face it, the Maus isn't trash and it never will be, yall just mad it has more armor, no ammount of information will convince me otherwise.

1:50-1:56 "Thanks Gaijin"

What I think they should do to make tanks like this easier to balance is implement spalling, partial penetrations, and armor fatigue. The problem with armor right now is that even the shells and armor are ballistically accurate in terms of pen values, you end up with a overly binary situation. Penetration or nothing. In reality, you would have spalling, and all sorts of partial penetrations. Shells that knock large chunks of armor from the inside, not just particulate spall. Shells that get stuck in the armor but shattered fragments of the shell or displaced armor make it inside the crew compartment. And armor fatigue. In one highly detailed account of a Panther engagement during the battle of the bulge, one panther had its welds start to crack after the 10th hit to the glacis from Sherman fire. Since we have the protection analysis, it would be easy for players to test and find out what tanks they will still be entirely proof agaisnt at various ranges until their armor falls apart, and what shells that have to watch out for because they might still kill them even if their pen values are not exact.

"it can't be balanced tovarish" No, gaijin just didn't want to get its head out of its own ass to decompress the BR's that actually make it viable because when the Object 120 exists with a railgun at a step below, and the T-55AM and its derivatives exist less than 1 BR jump away from it, it cannot do hardly anything "removing vehicles, because actual change is for chumps" - Gaijin, probably

@teun911

Жыл бұрын

Even with decompression, that will dominate downtiers and suffer in uptiers.

I am not slow

I remember being a sped and rushing to get this when it first came out. I quit using it after the insane repair costs sunk in on me. Your main adversary back then was the T-54 and the ZSU-57

Spookston: *pretty casual gameplay* Me: * my surrounding teammates die before being surrounded and bullied/ Bombed before even reaching the battle/ Meets a T114/ Gets barrel broken for 14th time in a row by the same person *

Some more top tier SPAA please!! It’s just satisfying to see helicopters falling out off the sky.

"We removed it because we can't balance it" ..Leaves it in the game only for those who got it. Okay, sure.

@eternalwarfare514

3 ай бұрын

I think the idea was more like they don't want it as a permanent addition to the game's tech tree anymore I guess; if any memelord or wehraboo wants the Maus, go ahead, but you dont have to slog through it to grind the next tank in line

Just gonna say, the Maus’s sabot round is real and had two firing trials. The first round often shattered against 200+mm plates, and the other successfully went through much thicker plates much more reliably and at considerable slopes. One example even successfully penetrated a 305mm plate angled at 30 degrees at a velocity of 1280m/s without breakup (that is admittedly a value higher than the muzzle velocity though). That second round is what the game is supposed to have, but what we really have is an 8.8cm with a 1230m/s muzzle velocity with Gaijoob’s formula. The round had no AP cap and a more blunt ogive nose and should be much better against sloped armor than it is in game. The shell would be fairly comparable to the Object 279 in terms of performance.

I think seeing a video about the AMD-1 would be really neat, maybe talking about how useless the APS feels at 8.7 when most of the missile carriers are half a br up to a BR higher in terms of how common it is to see & face them. I feel like it suffers in some aspect because it's selling point is the Hardkill APS & LRF; I have been using it extensively myself but I'd like to see what you think of it.

I mean its br was already pretty balanced imo. We are talking about a tank prototype dead end from WW2 after all. Im surprised that it can drive at all. And its not like every 6.7 heavy doesnt have the same weaknesses. BR decompression could help a lot with that

I remember several times when I saw a Maus in matches, and started bullying them with my BMP-1. They literally can't do anything against me and my team.

@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537

Жыл бұрын

I have committed the sin of T-54 future tech YEET shell bullying. Even magic bonked a couple on Kursk with the balans-57-2. And the Maus is one mistake away from seeing T-64 (fixed edition) on top of the later cold war T-55/62's it can easily run into normally LMFAO. Subtle reminder the T-54 (1947) w/future APDS and BMP-1P 1974 are lower BR than the Maus XD)))

Can you make a vid on the STA-3? its like a really shitty leopard 1 with an autoloader (even worse now that its optics got nerfed :c )

Playing on large map with the maus is a pain in the ass, especially when Gaijin thinks it is a good idea to let 6.7-7.7 to keep getting large map match while the top tier keep getting cqc city map

@BIGmlems

Жыл бұрын

heavy tank spawn just like an attacker spawn in air realistic? :3

You should try the type 75 sph. It’s such a meme now.

A tank so good it counted as food... For other tanks... And planes...

@IceAxe1940

Жыл бұрын

Guilty pleasure every time I kill a MAUS with an ATGM.

"Slow is pain, fast light tanks are my thing." You should play the Valentine next.

*"So bad it had to be removed"* Refer to 0:08 where he immediately contradicts his clickbait title.

Even with HEAT and ATGM's, its difficult to properly pen and destroy this thing. Germany mains just play braindead. Thats litterally it. These morons rely on the armour too much and act surprised when they get instantly targetted. Its not a great tank, but its not unplayable.

@cqpp

Жыл бұрын

Great another braindead and toxic take. You clearly haven't played the game enough if you still divide things into the "German mains vs this mains camp". What's next eugenics in war thunder? Some countries playerbases are "superior" while others are inferior sub-human. That is getting dangerously close to nazi teachings and yet most people in the sub are quick to generalise a whole player group to feel superior in their role-playing tank videogame.

@bro3217

Жыл бұрын

If you can't rely on its armor then remind me, what's it supposed to do again?

@andrewgause6971

Жыл бұрын

Its a tank whose pace is charitably described as "glacial" and is large enough to qualify for its own postal code. No amount of bushes and camo is hiding that thing. Its armor is all it has. Especially when it has an 11,000+ SL repair cost, getting insta-gibbed by a tank from the 1970s firing second generation ATGMs or bombed from orbit is rather frustrating, even if the latter is a rather appropriate example of "reality ensues" for what would have happened had the Maus gone into production.

@TheJimyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@bro3217 you can rely on the armor of the maus just learn to play it :) you need to angle the hull and turret and only show your cheek when you want to fire . maus armor will spot all rounds that are not apds whit hight pen , heat and atgm . everything else is a big nop : D and most player just rush whit the maus and get killed . play it like a normal tank be carefull and dont think you god and you will be fine

@TheJimyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@bro3217 i see a video of a maus player taking on a is7 and win on you tube so...

i hear a lot of people say the Maus is bad, but it has an average of 4 kills per death on thunderskill, which is pretty fucking good. im aware thunderskill is not the best source, but sadly its one of the only ones.

I think that the M4A3 can actually pen the side of the Maus flat on with APCR but thats about it apart from the back.

I don't know why Gaijin limited the 75mm cannon on the Maus by only offering some ( lesser ) types of shells last time I checked the 75mm can shoot way better shells not just the 100mm pen ones

its so hard to make videos with such slow vehicles because of the ammount of cutting to get any kind of action, but once you drive into the middle of the map you will have the whole enemy team shooting you so much action

4:40, the one thing many underestimated when they suggests putting in more doomsday heavies(ie, the T26 family): royal air force bomber command

How to balance the Maus: -Make bridges destructible (Make them regenerative after 15-30 seconds to prevent people from blocking accesibility to capture points) -Introduce a mechanic, making the engine catch have a random chance of catching on fire, if the said engine is put under maximum pressure (for example; Maus driving uphill onto a very steep formation) -Make track repairs longer for Maus, since it needs to be lifted first, then manually repaired -Introduce a mechanic of armor chipping; making the armor lose effective value after constant fire from main gun calibers

5:06 This is the moments where I genuinely appreciate spookston

So I got home, launched war thunder, then closed it to go see if the dev server is up, then when I go back to the live launcher they changed it, im confused

He was amphibious, ergo he must go into the water when given the option.

The problem with the Maus is related to its characteristics in real life: it was absurdly slow, too heavy to be sustainable or navigate all but the most favorable terrain, and impossible to recover. In exchange, it had absurdly thick armor, a ridiculously oversized gun (with a powerful secondary gun for ranging shots), and a big crew. And you can't balance that in a game; making a tank that is true to its agonizingly slow speed and liability to break down or get stuck, yet also invincible and able to obliterate any tank with one shot, it's just not fun and not fair.

this hit on that wheelyboi without damage: e-sport ready

Honestly sitting back in a super heavy isn't what anybody would ever want to do but it seems like it's hilariously the only way it can be played cuz it literally get melted otherwise and is like the soom turtle and attracts bombs as if it were a giant magnet

OOOOF you nearly gave me a heart attack when you said they removed the Maus from the game. I thought they removed it completly like all accounts that had it it got removed from.

It came back temporarily

I love playing the Maus though. Its huge and slow and ridiculous and I love it. Every match is a fun match because I expect nothing! It's also very satisfying to pop HEAT-FS slinging cold war MBTs with the APHE-DS round. It may be a mostly fake round, but it does help the Maus be slightly more reliable on the battlefield. Of course, I say all this as a Heavy Tank lover, someone who scoffs every time Spook makes a video about how light tanks are the best.

at 7.7 i had games were nobody could pen the mause so every body just shot at the gun for the hole game.

"Pro tip if you're playing this map" *proceeds to give the worst possible advice for the map 🤣 If you don't take B in like the first 45 seconds on Port Novo as the northern side... you lose, 9 times out of 10. Anyway I feel like the Maus could be 7.3 without harming anything. Sure there's stuff in a max downtier that'll struggle to pen it, but that's the entire point of the Maus. It's a tank so stupidly armor-oriented that it completely sacrifices mobility, even other heavies can run circles around it! The more mobility suffers, the more the vehicle's armor should function to compensate, the Maus is just the extreme of that spectrum

Do the T95 next. Suffer at 8 mph.

2:23 Hi! I'm your local union representative for tankers in WT! I totally didn't just make that up now but anyways onto my defense! We here at tanker inc. fight to allow our gamers to make monkey noises when they get a kill because watching enemies spontaneously combust and explode brings that good serotonin boost equivalent to monkey when get banana. Thank you, please continue the monkey noises.

Freeaboo talking about german tanks it's like: holllywood making video about "objective" history about germans.

@rolandhunter

Жыл бұрын

@@johnroscoe2406 Who is angry boii? :D

I never have a problem getting kills with the Maus, when the snail doesn't full uptier me.

Powerhouse tactic for Maus: Get to a choke point/Cap zone, Bring teammates to defeat tanks you are too slow to respond to. ANGLE!!! The TURRET!!! Stay at cap (Takes too long to get to enermy spawn but if you do you will have a real advantage) Teammates recommended to be in a fast medium.

I honestly think at this point the Maus could sit at 7.3 and not be overpowered. There's so much at that BR these days that counter it these days that it would work. Yeah, 6.3s facing it would be horrible but those vehicles would outmaneuver it still. It'd be like any other downtier/uptier

Next update: Maus comes back at 6.7, panther moved to 4.0, tiger H1 is now 3.3

People would probably just use it and think "oh I got strong armor and so I'll go straight down the middle with no backup" and then die instantly. It can work when you use it right, just like most other things

The M103. The funky armor layout combined with the thick armor it has actually allows it to take hits and give them back with that 120mm

4:33 the exact moment i discovered that i own a tank that can float, i went immediately to try it without caring about the game, but only enjoying the swimming experience. he was probably doing the same.

I'm literally going to bed after watching this video... It has nothing to do with the vid itself, but that's just so appropriate

Also the sabot round isn’t fictional, it was made, idk if it was used or tested but it was an 88mm l71 round, with this weird discs that made it fit with a 128 gun breach.

In my opinion the Maus is the extreme of the problem the game has with heavy tanks and casemade TDs with heavy frontal armor. They shouldnt be penetratable frontally by most or at least half of the tanks they face since they sacrifice mobility for good frontal armor and a good gun. Heavy tanks should be able to pose as a blockade for light and medium tanks and force them to flank or wait for the support of tanks with better guns wich should be able to penetrate it frontally. Warthunder gives player the ability to render guns and tracks inoperable efectivly reducing the heavy tank to a sitting steel duck only waiting to get flanked. Most TDs and Heavy tanks suffer from this problem wich makes them less fun to play especially when the gun isnt that good or if it has the same gun as a medium tank. I do agree that heavy tanks shouldnt be able to shrug of all types of hits but if your armor dosent give you any benefits and only slows you down when there are tanks with the same gun but better mobility what sense does it make to play them except if you want to play that tank specifically.

Here's an idea to balance the Maus - bring it down to 7.0 and up the spawn point cost to 800.

props to that 906 trying to do a water crossing in the open

3:17 going kamikaze,but miss lol

As one of my friends has said is that the maus is a tungsten brick meant as mobile cover for there team mates which is why I am now know as the brick among my friends lol

I honestly love playing the muas I’m so glad I was able to get it

Dude used the word tanky to describe a tank, love it lol